Hi Chris, I am also looking for a birth certificate for my grandfather who was born in Birmingham in 1892. I spent two days in August of this year in Birmingham & Montgomery searching through their archives. Unfortunately, I was not able to find anything on my grandfather. Interestingly enough, no one else has mentioned the Jefferson County Dept of Health. It sounds like a new lead for me and perhaps others. Chris, could you provide their address and phone number. Thanks in advance. Raymond Simmons "My grandfather was born in 1896 in Birmingham and I need to get a certified copy of his birth certificate. I know the regular channels only supply births from 1906 on, but I saw on AlGenWeb that Jefferson County had births back to 1882. I called around and got the Jefferson County Department of Health, Bureau of Health Statistics and Vital Records and I was sent a form (I live in New Orleans)."

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I'm looking for any information on a May Ola Snider born 24 Dec. 1883. Where: ?? Died 15 Nov. 1972 in Bessemer, Alabama. She married Almon James Forister. Thanks in advance, Phoebe Forister

Ronnie, 1. William Rufus McVay b. Feb. 28 1868,Mt. Hope, Ala. m. Sept 22, 1892 d. March 26, 1910 B'ham.,Ala. Father, William Sterling McVay, b. June 15, 1843, Mt Hope, Ala. d. Nov. 18, 1908, B'ham., Ala. buried Elmwood Cemetery. Mother, Lassaphine Johnson b. abt. 1847 d. Nov 21, 1873 Mt. Hope, Ala. Wife of Wm. Rufus-- Mattie Ellanora McWilliams, b. Nov. 20, 1874, Tuscumbia, Ala. d. August 14, 1942, B'ham. Ala. Father, John Alexander McWilliams b. March 5, 1841 Franklin County, Ala. m. April 1867 d. August 1, 1923 Tuscumbia, Ala. Mother, Lucinda Berneta Sockwell b. Feb. 18, 1847, Carroll County, Ga. d. Feb 23, 1920, Tuscumbia, Ala. 2. William Sterling McVay Father, Pleasant Washington McVay b. April 2, 1813, Virginia m. July 18, 1833, d. January 22, 1895, Mt Hope, Ala. Mother, Sarah Elizabeth Clemmonds b. Kentucky. Lassaphine Johnson Father, Abraham John Johnson b. May 27, 1797, Ga. d. August 18, 1852, Russellville, Ala. Mother, Labrina,--d. August 18, 1856 Russellville, Ala. 3. John Alexander McWilliams Father, Hugh McWilliams b. Nov. 12, 1812, Tenn. d. Feb. 23,1876, Ala. Mother, Elizabeth Quillen b. Nov. 4, 1817, Tenn. d. Feb. 23, 1876 Lucinda Berneta Sockwell Father, Edwin Buchanon Sockwell b. Nov. 1, 1814 Coweta County, Ga. m. April 1, 1837 d. 1892 Colbert County Mother, Margaret Lucinda Head b. Jan. 3, 1813 Carroll County, Ga. d. Oct. 28, 1852 Tuscumbia, Ala. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronnie Warren To: bdotuser@netzero.net Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: Quillin Brenda, I had a great aunt Polly Warren, born March 11, 1901; died January 5, 1975; married October 26, 1921 to Eddie Austin Quillin in Tuscumbia, Colbert County Austin was born September 30, 1901; died February 26, 1963. They are buried in Moncrief Cemetery, Gardendale, Alabama. I also have a list of their children. The Warrens were from Mt. Hope, Lawrence County, AL. Ronnie Warren _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

My grandfather was born in 1896 in Birmingham and I need to get a certified copy of his birth certificate. I know the regular channels only supply births from 1906 on, but I saw on AlGenWeb that Jefferson County had births back to 1882. I called around and got the Jefferson County Department of Health, Bureau of Health Statistics and Vital Records and I was sent a form (I live in New Orleans). My question is whether anyone knows if this is the right place to get what I need and is there any hope that they will find the birth. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Chris

Wondering about the first name of Rev. McCoy (assume McCoy Methodist was named for him. TIA, sue in Al.

----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy vasvary Subject: Fw: Bemjamin Durden Subject: Durden Hope someone in Beaufort County will find some information on Francis Durden b. 1770 who was the father of Benjamin Durden. Francis was b. in North Carolina, d. 1851, Washington County, Ga. Issue: 1. Wiley Durden, b.1827 2. Francis Durden, b. 1827 3. Ednah Durden, b. 1826 4. Benjamin Durden, b. 1793 m. Elizabeth (b. April 10 1804), moved to Autauga County, Ala. Issue Josiah, b. 1820 in Ala. ( my line) 5. Josiah Durden, b. 1807 in Ga. I have Lewis Durden somewhere in my Durdens, I hope. I can't find the 1st and 2nd persons of the following: lll. Mary A. Durden, daughter of Lewis, m. 1847 John Patrick Griffin. Issue: 1. Andrew M. Griffin b. 1848. 2. William I. Griffin b. 1849. 3. John Irwin Griffin b. 1853. lV. Matthew Durden, son of Lewis, b. 1805 m. 12/20/1829, Elizabeth Eastwood. Issue: 1. Lewis I Durden b. 1831. 2. Martha Durden b. 1834. 3. Wiley Durden b. 1837. 4. William R. Durden b. 1840. 5. Harriett Durden b. 1841. V. Lydia Durden, daughter of Lewis, m. Forshee. Vl. Piety Durden, Daughter of Lewis m. Chambers. Vll. Riley Durden, son of Lewis, d. by 1860 m. Martha Croom(daughter of Jennett Croom, b. 1776). Issue: 1. Hanes Durden. 2. Wiley Durden b. 1836. 3. Mary Durden b. 1838. 4. Jennett Durden b. 1837. 5. Lewis Durden b. 1834. Again thanks, Dorothy ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

Sending this out again for information. Dorothy Durden Subject: Clemmonds,McVay,McWilliams, Quillen Sarah Elizabeth Clemmons b. abt. 1814 Kentucky, d. 1865 Mt. Hope, Ala. m. Pleasant Washington McVay b. April 2, 1813 Lawrence County, Ala.? m. July 18, 1833 Lawrence County, Ala. d. Jan. 22, 1895 Mt Hope, Ala. Children: William Sterlin McVay b. Jan. 15, 1843 d. Nov. 18, 1908 Birmingham, Ala. Neomi McVay b. May 27, 1839 d. in Waco, Texas Other children died early (1844-46) & James McVay, no date. Would like any information on the parents of Sarah Elizabeth Clemmons and Pleasant Washington McVay. Elizabeth Quillen b. Nov. 4, 1817 in Tenn. d. Feb. 23, 1876 m. Hugh McWilliams b. Nov. 12, 1812 Tenn. Children: John Alexander McWilliams b. March 5, 1841 in Franklin County Ala. m. Lucinda Berneta Sockwell on April, 1867 She was b. Feb. 18, 1847 in Carroll County, Ga. d. Feb. 23, 1920 in Tuscumbia, Ala. Daughter-Mattie Ellanora McWilliams b. Nov. 20, 1874 in Tuscumbia, Ala. m. William Rufus McVay b. in Mt Hope, Ala. m. Sept. 22, 1892 d. March 26, 1910. Hugh McVay b. May 9, 1746 m. Mary Fain? Daughter--Arminda R. McVay m. Bill McCarthy(William D. McCarthy) Nov. 13, 1834 in Lawrence County, Ala. Would want any information on the parents of the above relatives. Thanks, Dorothy Durden

----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy vasvary To: Subject: Dardens Dardens: (1) 1st generation (2) 2nd generation (3) 3rd generation ,etc. 1--- Stephen Darden settled in Nansmond County, Virginia in 1640. 2---Captain John Darden, R. S.,m. Miss Dandridge, sister of Martha Washington. 3---John Darden, Jr., R. S. b. 1734. 3---Jacob Darden, R. S. m. Mary Hilliard. 4---Ziephia Darden, m. Joshua Roundtree. 4---Cynthia Darden, m. Needham Bryant. 4---Jacob Darden, Jr., d. unmarried. 3---William Darden, b. 1736; m. Mary Dekle. 4---Dennis Darden, m. Phobe Dilliard. 4---Ellis Darden, m. Mary Barwick. 4---Simeon Darden, m. Eliza Barwick. 4---Lucinda Darden, m. Manning Roundtree. 4---Ebernezer Darden, m. (1) Roxie Rountree, and (2) Mrs. Lythia Boatwright Nee Bryant. 4---Mary Darden, m. James Dilliard. 3---Stephen Darden, b.1737. 3---George Darden R. S. , b. 1739, received land grants in Wilkes County, Ga. for war services; m. Martha Burch, b. 1741, daughter of Richard Burch. 4---George Darden, Jr. b. 1760. 4---Richard Darden, b. 1763. 4---Elizabeth Darden, b. 1765; d. 1848; m. Governor Stephen Heard R. S., b. 1740, d. 1815. 5---Barnard Carroll Heard, b. March 12, 1787; m. Polly Hutson. 6---Boliver Heard. 6---Stephen Heard. 6---John Heard, m. Elizabeth Williamson. 5---Martha Burch Heard, b. Oct. 10, 1788; d. Dec. 7, 1824 m. about 1805, Barlett Tucker, b. 1784 6---Stephen Heard Tucker, m. Jan. 16, 1827, Mary Aiken, daughter of Thomas Aiken. 6---Elizabeth Tucker, m. (1) Mr. Upshaw, (2) Dec.2, 1840, Robert Harris. 7---(By 1st wife), daughter m. Mr. Harris. 7---Robert Harris, Jr. 7---(By 2nd wife) Alva Harris. 7---Clarence P. Harris, m. Eva Wakefield. 8---Alice Pope Harris, m. Frank Asbury lll. 9---Frank Asbury lll. 7---James Harris. 7---Walton Harris. 6---Sarah Tucker, m. Jan. 27, 1842, Henry Sanders. No issue. 5---Bridget Carroll Heard, b. June 17, 1795, m. (1) March 6, 1817, Simeon Henderson and (2), Elbert H. Thompson. 6---William Henderson, b. 1796. 6---Daughter Thompson, m. Mr. Riddle. 6---Daughter Thompson , m. Mr. Jones. 5---Dr. George Washington Heard, member Georgia Legislature. b. June 17, 1791; m. April 20, 1815, Sahah Carter, daughter of Thomas A. Carter R. S. 6---Stephen Heard, m. Mary Aiken. 7---Phillip Heard, m. Miss Tillman. 5---John Adams Heard, b. March 17, 1793; d. 1838, solicitor general Western Circuit of Georgia. Unmarried Hope this information is helpful and some one can help me with my Durden line ( Francis, 1770: Benjamin, 1793, etc.) Thanks, Dorothy Durden P. S. Notice that Elizabeth Barwich m. Semeon Darden. Her father, George Darden, R. S. b. 1739, received land grants in Wilkes County, Ga. for war services. He married about 1759 to Martha Burch b. 1741. Her father was Richard Burch. Ellis Darden married Mary Barwick (sister of Elizabeth Barwick). ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy vasvary To: S. Carolina ; Texas Sent: Subject: McVay Does anyone have any information on any of the following names? Hugh McVay, Jr. Wife--Mary La Fain of South Carolina Children; Sally Parthernia Rebecca Mary L. Jane Arminda Hugh Breckenridge Arminda r. McVay m. William D. McCarty Father--Hugh McVay or Javan McVay Dorothy Durden ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

Kathy, If you find them on the AL Death Index microfilm, then you can go to Wallace State College at Hanceville. They have microfilm of the actual death certificates. Melba -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Storm <kstorm@bellsouth.net> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Help Needed >Hi Melba, > >Thank you for the information. I'll check this out, hopefully this weekend >I can get to the library. > >This may be one of those 'wild goose chases' but I'm also going to do >everything I can to find out about my grandfather. > >Thank you again, and happy hunting. > >Kathy > >At 12:30 AM 9/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Kathy, >>The Birmingham Public Library has city directories for most years during >>that time period for Birmingham. >> >>You might also look on the 1920 census. They may have been married by then. >>Also the AL death certificates started in 1908 so you might be able to find >>them there. >> >>Hope this helps, >>Melba >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kathy Storm <kstorm@bellsouth.net> >>To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:51 PM >>Subject: [ALJEFFER] Help Needed >> >> >> >My father was born in Brimingham, AL on September 23, 1923. His birth >> >certificate states: >> > >> >for city is says,"Birmingham, AL Maternity Hosp" >> > >> >Was there a maternity hospital there then? Is it still there? Where would >> >records for this be? >> > >> >There is no information on the father on the birth certificate, but it >> >lists my grandmother's name as A. Shepherd. >> > >> >Is there a city directory for 1922-1924? I realize that its a long shot >> >but I'm looking to see if I can locate James Everett Shepherd or Shephard >> >or Alfretta Felsher or Alfretta Shepherd there during this time period. >> > >> >I have my grandfather's name from court papers when my dad had his name >> >legally changed. James Shepherd supposedly was dead by about June 1924 >> >when my dad was given to relatives to raise. >> > >> >Any help or ideas on how to go about this will be greatly appreciated. No >> >matter what the outcome, my search will go on. >> > >> >Kathy Storm >> >New Orleans, LA >> > >

Kathy, Here is info about the Birmingham Public Library: URL: http://www.bham.lib.al.us/ Birmingham Public Library. 2100 Park Place Birmingham, Alabama 35203. Send questions or comments to webmaster@bham.lib.al.us. Hope this helps, Melba -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Storm <kstorm@bellsouth.net> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Help Needed >Hi Jenny, > >First, thank you so much for your reply and information. > >The doctor's name on the birth certificate is J. E. Garrison, M.D. > >I forgot to mention that on my dad's birth certificate, on the section for >the father's information, it is written across it "Not Given". That gives >the impression that they may not have been married, but I am not sure on that. > >All I have on my grandfather is a name and anyone in the family that may >have known the truth is long since passed on. > >Do you have the address for the downtown library? > >Thank you again! > >Kathy > >

Hi Melba, Thank you for the information. I'll check this out, hopefully this weekend I can get to the library. This may be one of those 'wild goose chases' but I'm also going to do everything I can to find out about my grandfather. Thank you again, and happy hunting. Kathy At 12:30 AM 9/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >Kathy, >The Birmingham Public Library has city directories for most years during >that time period for Birmingham. > >You might also look on the 1920 census. They may have been married by then. >Also the AL death certificates started in 1908 so you might be able to find >them there. > >Hope this helps, >Melba > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kathy Storm <kstorm@bellsouth.net> >To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:51 PM >Subject: [ALJEFFER] Help Needed > > > >My father was born in Brimingham, AL on September 23, 1923. His birth > >certificate states: > > > >for city is says,"Birmingham, AL Maternity Hosp" > > > >Was there a maternity hospital there then? Is it still there? Where would > >records for this be? > > > >There is no information on the father on the birth certificate, but it > >lists my grandmother's name as A. Shepherd. > > > >Is there a city directory for 1922-1924? I realize that its a long shot > >but I'm looking to see if I can locate James Everett Shepherd or Shephard > >or Alfretta Felsher or Alfretta Shepherd there during this time period. > > > >I have my grandfather's name from court papers when my dad had his name > >legally changed. James Shepherd supposedly was dead by about June 1924 > >when my dad was given to relatives to raise. > > > >Any help or ideas on how to go about this will be greatly appreciated. No > >matter what the outcome, my search will go on. > > > >Kathy Storm > >New Orleans, LA > >

Hi Jenny, First, thank you so much for your reply and information. The doctor's name on the birth certificate is J. E. Garrison, M.D. I forgot to mention that on my dad's birth certificate, on the section for the father's information, it is written across it "Not Given". That gives the impression that they may not have been married, but I am not sure on that. All I have on my grandfather is a name and anyone in the family that may have known the truth is long since passed on. Do you have the address for the downtown library? Thank you again! Kathy

My father was born in Brimingham, AL on September 23, 1923. His birth certificate states: for city is says,"Birmingham, AL Maternity Hosp" Was there a maternity hospital there then? Is it still there? Where would records for this be? There is no information on the father on the birth certificate, but it lists my grandmother's name as A. Shepherd. Is there a city directory for 1922-1924? I realize that its a long shot but I'm looking to see if I can locate James Everett Shepherd or Shephard or Alfretta Felsher or Alfretta Shepherd there during this time period. I have my grandfather's name from court papers when my dad had his name legally changed. James Shepherd supposedly was dead by about June 1924 when my dad was given to relatives to raise. Any help or ideas on how to go about this will be greatly appreciated. No matter what the outcome, my search will go on. Kathy Storm New Orleans, LA

Please DO NOT hit the reply button, reply instead to llabove@camtel.net lynn labove wrote: > > I need help with my HOWARD line Joseph Howard can any one help me he appears > to of been married 2 times had a set of twins named Riley and Isaac and a > whole lot of other children including my Sarah Catherine Howard born about > 1857 her mother is listed as Patsy but on census I can only find Posey. They > lived in Jefferson County and are in Shelby County in 1860. Lynn LaBove > llabove@camtel.net

Is there anyone who can do a census lookup in Bessemer for Ernest Nail and wife Hilda Speaks about 1914 should have two children Gert born 1912 and Catherine born 1913. I don't even know if they lived there for sure but I do know that they lived somewhere in that area. Thank you Gail

Bessemer is in Jefferson Co., AL Melba -----Original Message----- From: Gail Harms <gharms.bie@beatricene.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Nail >Can someone tell me what County Bessemer Alabama is in. Also I would >like to thank the people that responsed to my post on Catherine Nail. >Would her death have been posted in a news paper I am guessing her death >was in 1918 if so how could I fine out. >Thank you Gail > >

Can someone tell me what County Bessemer Alabama is in. Also I would like to thank the people that responsed to my post on Catherine Nail. Would her death have been posted in a news paper I am guessing her death was in 1918 if so how could I fine out. Thank you Gail