Please join us Monday night for a special genealogy chat covering the entire state (all counties welcome!). If you would benefit from talking to people live and asking questions and sharing information, then we want you to join us: 9-10 pm Eastern; 8-9 pm Central; 7-8 pm Mountain; 6-7 pm Pacific http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm If you can't join us and you are researching NORTH Alabama (only, please!), you are welcome to post a query in the forum: http://forums.about.com/ab-huntsville If you have a personal webpage that covers ancestors from Alabama (any county) and would like to be added to my website, please send me an email message with the URL and a brief description. You will find lots of information here: http://huntsville.about.com/cs/genealogy1/index.htm If you need step-by-step instructions for the chat room or the forum, let me know. If you'd like to be added to a notification list for other Alabama chats, write and I'll add you to a new list. Hope you family tree grows many more branches! Jean Brandau huntsville2@about.com

Hello, I'm a new subscriber. I'm looking for the parents of James Moore bca1838 AL d1863 MS m1859 in Tishomingo Co MS to Susan C. McCoy daughter of Samuel McCoy and Faithy Rodes. James indicated in the 1860 MS census that he was born in AL. James and Susan had issue: 1) John Samuel b1860 in Iuka MS mca1880 Martha Ann Howard, and 2) James II b1863 who never married. I was wondering if James may be from Jefferson Co AL. If anyone has heard of this family, please respond. Frank Boyd

As one in charge of printing a county family history book, I can state: 1 Because of the expense, books could not be printed without pre orders. When the cost gets into the many-thousand dollar range, loans are too risky and expensive. 2. Because of most work being done by volunteers, (usually one person or two) Any shift in their schedule (death of family, new job, etc.) throws off the schedule. 3. Pre-orders generally get the book at lower cost than others, sometimes a fairly significant saving. TN

--part1_49.6e1ab6b.27ab45bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_49.6e1ab6b.27ab45bc_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <DRAINESSUTTON@aol.com> From: DRAINESSUTTON@aol.com Full-name: D RAINES SUTTON Message-ID: <e1.fc5eb4f.27ab4540@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:03:28 EST Subject: Re: JAMES William[BUD}Raines To: royal72@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 JAMES WILLIAM [BUD} RAINES BUD was born july 1 1851 in Mudcreek,Jefferson co Ala. He was the son of William Bailey and Elizabeth Kennymore Raines He came to Ark with his parents from Walker Co Ala in the fall of 1869. He married Sarah Hannah Loggains ,dau of MAJOR ANDSarah MULLINS loggains in 1876 Their children were: [1] Robert Carroll [never married] born 7-4-1877 [2] Sarah born 2-27-1879 married Thompsy Harris [3]Jane born 8-31-1880 married Sam Davis [4]Dicie born 3-30-1883 married Lee Bearden [5]James Oliver born 10-15-1885 married Dora Lay [6John Newton born 6-25-1887 married Anna Baker Bud and Hannah settled in Searcy Co ark, Bud died of a heatstroke while working in the hay field in 1889 Hannah died in 1932. they are buried in the Water Creek Cem at Freck ,Ark. --part1_49.6e1ab6b.27ab45bc_boundary--

--part1_8a.1d2c829.27aaa6eb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_8a.1d2c829.27aaa6eb_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ALABAMA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (rly-yd05.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.5]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:34:45 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 06:34:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f11BXxE27817; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:33:59 -0800 Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:33:59 -0800 X-Original-Sender: DRAINESSUTTON@aol.com Thu Feb 1 03:33:58 2001 From: DRAINESSUTTON@aol.com Message-ID: <17.110768ea.27aaa39e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:33:50 EST Old-To: alabama-l@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Subject: [Alabama] James Raines Resent-Message-ID: <w-EFlC.A.YyG.mmUe6@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: ALABAMA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ALABAMA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ALABAMA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/18903 X-Loop: ALABAMA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ALABAMA-L-request@rootsweb.com James was born 1793 in North or South Carolina [i census says North and 3 say south He was the son of William Raines They were in Lawrence co ala where James married Milla barton oct 6,1818 Milla was the dau of Moses and Fannie Barton i have not found James yet on the 1820 census but they were in Walker co in 1830 and remained there the rest of his life. he had at least 1 brother Robert born 1786 that came to Walker co with him. James and Millas Children were born bt 1819-1841 they were; William Bailey married Elizabeth Kennymore/kennamor Francis married Byrd Cole Hiram married Aseneth adeline[Phebe] Abbott James married Sarah Best Allen married Lucinda Robbins Margaret Ann[Peggy] married Wm. Washington Abbott Rebecca married Isiah Williams Milla Massa J. Milla died in 1843 and is buried in the Sardis cem in walker Co. James remarried to Susan [maiden name unknown] and had 4 more children. Lucinda Sintha married Robert Williams John Luyvenia[might have married-------Jones last census found on James was 1870 in walker co would like to share info with any desc Dolores Raines/Sutton ==== ALABAMA Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the list manager, please send your e-mail to mmanson@snet.net --part1_8a.1d2c829.27aaa6eb_boundary--

Since a lot of us ordered the Book a year and some over a year ago. How can we make sure that you still have our name on the list? Our checks cleared the bank a year ago. At the time we sent our money in we were under the impression that the books would be here by late 2000 and now you say maybe late summer of 2001, If we were told all of this in the beginning that would have been different , We were lead a different path. At this time I am not sure that I would ever order on a "pre-need or want "again. But Thanks for letting us know, In hopes it is not 2002 that we get the book. Peggy psueg@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <jkhouck@primenet.com> To: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:10 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Fw: Jefferson Co. Heritage Book > > -----Original Message----- > From: PDietlein@aol.com <PDietlein@aol.com> > To: jkhouck@primenet.com <jkhouck@primenet.com> > Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:21 AM > Subject: Jefferson Co. Heritage Book > > > >Hi Kathy, > > > > Your post to the Alabama list was forwarded to me. The Jefferson > County > >book has recently gone to the printers. > > > > A quick overview of the process might help you see why it is almost > >impossible to project an exact time the book will be available. The > printer > >typesets the pages and sends them back to the committee in sets of perhaps > 50 > >pages at a time. The committee then goes through these, proofing against > the > >original material and trying to recheck every date and name spelling, etc. > >Then the pages are sent back for any corrections. This process is repeated > >for each set of pages. And, at the very end, after all the corrections, we > >get all the pages back to highlight all the surnames which are matched to > the > >corresponding page(s) on which they appear for the index. > > > > Because of the anticipated large size of the Jefferson book, we expect > >this to take several months and likely well into the summer or even later. > >We received well over 2,000 separate articles, so there is just a lot of > >material to work with. Of course, that also means, the book is going to be > >superb!!! We are all excited about it and eager to see the final product. > > > > By the way, we are recommending to all our friends who anticipate > >ordering gift copies later -- that they not wait, but do so now. They can > >take advantage of the present price of $75.20 (includes shipping). We have > >been forewarned that that price is very likely to increase when the printer > >is able to get a better handle on the final number of pages in the book. > > > > Please feel free to pass along the above information to any others who > >may be interested. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Pat Dietlein > >Family Coordinator > > > >

-----Original Message----- From: PDietlein@aol.com <PDietlein@aol.com> To: jkhouck@primenet.com <jkhouck@primenet.com> Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:21 AM Subject: Jefferson Co. Heritage Book >Hi Kathy, > > Your post to the Alabama list was forwarded to me. The Jefferson County >book has recently gone to the printers. > > A quick overview of the process might help you see why it is almost >impossible to project an exact time the book will be available. The printer >typesets the pages and sends them back to the committee in sets of perhaps 50 >pages at a time. The committee then goes through these, proofing against the >original material and trying to recheck every date and name spelling, etc. >Then the pages are sent back for any corrections. This process is repeated >for each set of pages. And, at the very end, after all the corrections, we >get all the pages back to highlight all the surnames which are matched to the >corresponding page(s) on which they appear for the index. > > Because of the anticipated large size of the Jefferson book, we expect >this to take several months and likely well into the summer or even later. >We received well over 2,000 separate articles, so there is just a lot of >material to work with. Of course, that also means, the book is going to be >superb!!! We are all excited about it and eager to see the final product. > > By the way, we are recommending to all our friends who anticipate >ordering gift copies later -- that they not wait, but do so now. They can >take advantage of the present price of $75.20 (includes shipping). We have >been forewarned that that price is very likely to increase when the printer >is able to get a better handle on the final number of pages in the book. > > Please feel free to pass along the above information to any others who >may be interested. > >Sincerely, > >Pat Dietlein >Family Coordinator >

Kristina, I don't know that Trussville has ever had anything other than a community paper. Today's major newspapers in Birmingham are the Birmingham News and the Birmingham Post Herald. As I remember, the predecessor to the Post Herald was the Age Herald. I'd suggest contacting the Birmingham Public Library's Genealogy Department. I know that they have numerous microfilm records of old Birmingham newspapers, but I don't know how extensive their collection is. If you'll give me the name, I'll look it up for you when I get the chance. I usually make a trip to the library once a week or so. Jim Nix Birmingham, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristina Harris" <kharris@televar.com> To: <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Locating 1920's obituaries > I recently obtained the death record for an individual who died in > Trussville, Jefferson County in about 1929. Now that I finally have the date > of death, I can start looking for a newspaper obituary, if one exists. I > have a copied list of the "Newspapers in Microfilm;" however, not being from > the south, I have no idea which early papers carried locaI or community type > of news. > > I also have access to InterLibrary Loan but it often takes months to obtain > films and then I don't know whether the paper will even include death > records. Does anyone know whether there were local newspapers that might > have published an obituary for an individual who lived and died in > Trussville, 1929. > > Kristina Harris > kharris@televar.com > >

FOSTER BAILEY was born Abt, 1805 in SC. . He married SUSANNA "SUSAN" Bef. 1830 in SC. She was born Bet. 1805 - 1810 in SC. This family was in GA by 1838 and later some moved to Chamber and Jefferson Counties in Alabama. Children of FOSTER BAILEY and SUSANNA "SUSAN" were: i. MAY2 BAILEY, b. 1830. ii. GEORGE BAILEY, b. 1831; m. MARTHA ANN HAMMOCK, June 25, 1850, Chambers Co., AL; b. Bet. 1830 - 1832, GA. iii. LIVINGSTON BAILEY, b. Bet. 1832 - 1834, SC; d. January 05, 1881, Jefferson County, AL; m. FRANCES "FANNIE", Bef. 1859; b. 1840, GA. iv. PAMELA BAILEY, b. 1838. v. WILLIAM W. BAILEY, b. 1840. vi. WHITSON J. BAILEY, b. 1842. vii. JOHN BAILEY, b. Bet. 1843 - 1845. viii. HENRY C. BAILEY, b. Bet. 1846 - 1849. ix. SARAH J. BAILEY, b. Bet. 1847 - 1848. x. HARRIETT A. BAILEY, b. Bet. 1849 - 1851. If anyone has information on the above family, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Joan jtgen@mindspring.com

I am Vonda NORWOOD MILLER. My husband Ronald Dennis MILLER is looking for his Native American ancestry connection. His great grandmother by the 1950's was known as Matilda PETTY. We are told that she was born in Jefferson County, Al abt 1881 as Mary Matilda CAPPS who married Jack or Jackson GLAZE. Matilda's daughter Maude Malee GLAZE was born in Jefferson Co., Al abt 1904. (This is Ron's grandmother) The moved to Arkansas (I don't know which county) was told that Matilda lived in Little Rock. Her husband was killed in a coal minning accident abt. 1910. Maude Malee GLAZE moved to Macon Co. Illinois married Clyde MILLER and gave birth to her only child Curtis Cornelius MILLER in 1926 in Macon Co. Illinois. Later Matilda and some of her children ended up in Toledo, Ohio where in the early 1960s Matilda died. Matilda's known chilldren were: William, Albert, Olan (or Olin), Clifford, Clayton, Edith and Maude. Lots of help needed with this line. Is anyone researching these surnames: GLAZE, MILLER, CAPPS, NORWOOD, HALL, PEEBLES, CUSHON, JOHNSON,FINDLEY,PARKER, DAMPIER, POWELL, WARREN, DUBOSE,DAWSON,TOWNSON,CHANDLER, DEAN, ATCHLEY and SMITH. Looking forward to sharing with you. Thank you. Vonda

I recently obtained the death record for an individual who died in Trussville, Jefferson County in about 1929. Now that I finally have the date of death, I can start looking for a newspaper obituary, if one exists. I have a copied list of the "Newspapers in Microfilm;" however, not being from the south, I have no idea which early papers carried locaI or community type of news. I also have access to InterLibrary Loan but it often takes months to obtain films and then I don't know whether the paper will even include death records. Does anyone know whether there were local newspapers that might have published an obituary for an individual who lived and died in Trussville, 1929. Kristina Harris kharris@televar.com

Phoebe, I noticed RICHEY in you subject line. Are you connected to John Richey who married Nancy Payne, daughter of Moses Payne, 8 Aug 1820 in St. Clair Co., AL? I am told that they later moved to Blount Co., AL. In March 1855, a John (or James, as it was written both ways on the document) Richey was the administrator of the will of Moses Payne (not Nancy's father) in Blount Co. Melba -----Original Message----- From: Phebelyn@aol.com <Phebelyn@aol.com> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 18, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Forrester, Richey, Baugh, Snider, Moses, Baxter >Hi, >I am searching for the FORISTER surname. Finding it spelled FORRESTER and >FOSTER in Jefferson Co., AL from 1880-1920 > >I'm looking for the following: >D.H. FORRESTER b. ca. 1850 in AL >Married Sarah Jane RICHEY 3 Oct. 1872 in Jefferson Co., AL >They had the following children: >Setta "Settie" b. 1874; m. Cicero P. BAUGH >Almon James b. 1876; m. May Ola SNIDER >Robert b. ca. 1879 in AL >David Hubbard b. 1885; m. Annabell MOSES >Curry Ellis b. 1890; m. Alma BAXTER > >TIA, >Phoebe Forister >

Anyone with connection to the following families, Jordan-Reid-Patton-Delong/Delony from 1820-1880,of the Mud Creek District of Jefferson Co. AL. Please contact me. Marie tmarielong@aol.com

Subject: ELLIS > > Loking for information on these ELLIS Families, Addley, Clarance, > William, Mattie, Katie, Elizabeth{died} Mannie {raised Libby daughter of > Elizabeth}, and Alberta. Mother was > Rebecca Smith, Mooney , Ellis---Father Richard Edward Ellis. Ensley > and Bessemer Al. Grand parents Mattie Crowder, James Milton or Milton > James Ellis, > Father of Rebecca Smith Ellis. John Smith --Mother Ella Mae Boggs, Mims. > > Any infomation would be deeply appreciated . Most of these men > were Coal Minors probably Pratt city Mines. Thank you and God Bless, > Wla

Subject: ELLIS > Loking for information on these ELLIS Families, Addley, Clarance, > William, Mattie, Katie, Elizabeth{died} Mannie , and Alberta. Mother > Rebecca Smith, Mooney , Ellis---Father Richard Edward Ellis. Ensley > and Bessemer Al. Mattie Crowder, James Miltonor Milton James Ellis, > Faather of Rebecca Smith Ellis. John Smith Mother Ella mae Boggs, > Mims. Any infomation would be deeply appreciated . Most of the men > were Coal Minors probably Pratt coty Mines. Thank you and God Bless, > Wla

> I am looking for information on an Edith Stover, sorry don't know her > maiden name -might be Peals. She married an Ottis{Guy} Stover any > information would be helpful. She was suppose to own a Beauty Shop in > AL or School . I believe I have found records of Guy Stover as a W.W. > II killed in action. If that is of help to anyone, maybe in the early > to middle 1900's . Any help on these names would be appreciated. > Thank you very much. Peals, Stover, Arwood. May God bless you. Wla

Anyone researching the FORRESTER, FOSTER or FORISTER surnames? These are the surnames I'm finding spelled on records for my husband's FORISTER family. I have found them in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama census records in 1880 and 1920. I've also found a marriage that took place in Jefferson County, Alabama in 1872. If anyone is researching these surnames, please let me know. TIA, Phoebe Forister

To the person asking about Bessemer Road, on a current map of the Birmingham area there are three road with the word Bessemer in them. They are: Bessemer Avenue which is located in the Roosevelt City area of Birmingham. It is a street off of Highway 11. Bessemer Cut-Off Road which starts in the city of Bessemer and goes to Hoover. It runs West to East and is Highway 150. The other one is Bessemer Highway which starts in the City of Bessemer, goes North and even though the name changes several times, eventually ends in Birmingham. I suspect this is the old Bessemer Road. It goes through the City of Lipscomb, Brownsville and then turns into Jefferson Avenue. Finally there is the Birmingham Bessemer Super Highway which is Highway 11. Hope this helps. Irma J. Roy

Sue, you do realize that Bessemer is a town in Jefferson County, I currently still have cousins living in Bessemer and we just visited for Christmas. I will look for the map I purchased while I am there to see if the road runs into Birmingham or not. Sue Mulligan wrote: > IS THEIR ANYONE THAT CAN HELP > ME LOCATE A ROAD CALLED BESSEMER BLVD IN JEFFERSON CO. > AROUND 1925. > THANKS SUE

Sue, There are directories for Bessemer at the Birmingham Public Library. Someone from that area might be able to check one of them. Melba -----Original Message----- From: Sue Mulligan <sue979@webtv.net> To: ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <ALJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] RE; SEARCHING IS THEIR ANYONE THAT CAN HELP ME LOCATE A ROAD CALLED BESSEMER BLVD IN JEFFERSON CO. AROUND 1925. THANKS SUE