>From the Birmingham Public Library: City Directories Birmingham City Directories are located in the Tutwiler Collection. The directories date from 1883-present. Due to the hardship of the Great Depression and, later, the Second World War, directories were not published in the following years: 1933, 1936, 1943, and 1945. Because of their fragility, some of our original directories have been replaced with microfilm editions. Hope this helps. Evelyn Leslie

Is this a valid address in Birmingham? 1020 25th Street SW Would it be in Blessed Sacrament parish? I think this is where we may have lived in 1942. My dad's name was Paul Kralman....I don't know if there are any phone books around from that era. Linda (in Arizona) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALJEFFER] Location of Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church Blessed Sacrament is located in the West End community of Birmingham. The address for the church is 1460 Pearson Avenue, SW, Birmingham, AL 35211. Someone else may remember better than I, but it seems there was/is some talk of closing the church -- perhaps consolidating with another. I did drive by there about a year ago at the time I was finishing up the book Central Park & A Bit Beyond (includes general area and Birmingham info as well as West End High School) and the church looked to be in good condition and very much as I remember it from years ago. I'm pretty sure I have a photo of it "somewhere." Will look later today and if so, will e-mail it to you. Patricia Crim Dietlein ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Blessed Sacrament is located in the West End community of Birmingham. The address for the church is 1460 Pearson Avenue, SW, Birmingham, AL 35211. Someone else may remember better than I, but it seems there was/is some talk of closing the church -- perhaps consolidating with another. I did drive by there about a year ago at the time I was finishing up the book Central Park & A Bit Beyond (includes general area and Birmingham info as well as West End High School) and the church looked to be in good condition and very much as I remember it from years ago. I'm pretty sure I have a photo of it "somewhere." Will look later today and if so, will e-mail it to you. Patricia Crim Dietlein

That would be wonderful. As a new person to this mailing list, I must compliment you all on your helpfulness, your friendliness, and your caring. This is by far the best mailing list I have *ever* joined. Even though I only lived in Birmingham a few years, now I fully understand the term "southern hospitality". You all are the essence of that. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALJEFFER] Location of Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church Blessed Sacrament is located in the West End community of Birmingham. The address for the church is 1460 Pearson Avenue, SW, Birmingham, AL 35211. Someone else may remember better than I, but it seems there was/is some talk of closing the church -- perhaps consolidating with another. I did drive by there about a year ago at the time I was finishing up the book Central Park & A Bit Beyond (includes general area and Birmingham info as well as West End High School) and the church looked to be in good condition and very much as I remember it from years ago. I'm pretty sure I have a photo of it "somewhere." Will look later today and if so, will e-mail it to you. Patricia Crim Dietlein ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barry, I will try to answer your questions about the Birmingham City Directories. I have used several of them from time to time. <<<Are the Birmingham directories the original clothbound books? >>>> Yes, they are the original clothbound books. Both the Birmingham and Wallace College libraries have a collection of these directories. Both libraries have a few missing volumes, so you might want to check both libraries for various years. <<<<Does anyone know what areas the Birmingham directories cover? Just the city itself? Any of the outlying areas? Like New Castle or Pinson area?>>>> This varies from year to year. Some of the directories cover more areas than others. Some have outlying areas included in the lists of residents. I found some which had a separate section with Post Offices listed from towns all over North Alabama, with mail receivers listed by occupation [merchants, doctors, farmers, etc.]. Quite a number of them have the address listings by street and avenues, as you mentioned, where one could see the neighbors, etc. listed together. This is helpful to determine if relatives lived nearby. I looked in the online card catalog for Birmingham Public Library. They have only a few listed that I could find using various search words. I am not sure why they don't have all of them [several rows of shelves full] listed [or, maybe I just haven't discovered the "right" search words!!] They have 22 reels of microfilm of Birmingham City Directories. Call number for them is "Micro- film F 334 .B653 D5" They are part of a series, "City Directories of the United States" I also could not find the books listed in Wallace College Library's online Catalog. But I did find that Wallace also has the 22 reels of microfilm. [But I know that they have several shelves full of bound Birmingham directories!] Hope this helps, Melba Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Bham Directories (was "Cath Baptism") > Are the Birmingham directories the original clothbound books? Reason I ask > is > that I just returned from a genealogy trip to Illinois and I was in the > Joliet Public Library in Joliet, Will County, IL and they have just > shelves and > shelves of Joliet directories going back to the late 1800s and going all > the way > up to modern times. > > I almost thought I had died and gone to heaven. I've never used the > directories on hand like that. Only seen a few copied pages. I could spend > two weeks > alone in that library with those directories (about all the library had in > the > way of books for my particular research (Italian)) and still probably have > more > research to do. > > A distant cousin was with me and she showed me how to use the directories. > My > advice is to first look at all sections of the directory including the > front > page to get a feel for it. Look at the list of abbreviations so you > understand > what they mean. She also showed me that once you find your people in the > directory itself - to look in the back where it's listed by street names. > Find > that address in numerical order and see what buildings it was near or > sometimes > what building it actually was. For instance, I found that my people lived > in a > hotel. If the directory lists their business address or employer, you can > look > for that as well. Most of them didn't own a vehicle in the past and > therefore > would most likely have walked to work. > > Does anyone know what areas the Birmingham directories cover? Just the > city > itself? Any of the outlying areas? Like New Castle or Pinson area? > > Barry Jernigan > Murfreesboro, TN

I did research at the Birmingham Library in 1997-98 and as I recall, the directories were originals, complete with all the wonderful old advertisements. I don't remember the dates of the oldest ones, but 1890 was a treasure since there are few census records for that date. But I do remember that the directories were discontinued during the World War 2 years, so the year 1942 may be one of those. Another possibility is phone directories, but I don't know what is available. RAdams

Are the Birmingham directories the original clothbound books? Reason I ask is that I just returned from a genealogy trip to Illinois and I was in the Joliet Public Library in Joliet, Will County, IL and they have just shelves and shelves of Joliet directories going back to the late 1800s and going all the way up to modern times. I almost thought I had died and gone to heaven. I've never used the directories on hand like that. Only seen a few copied pages. I could spend two weeks alone in that library with those directories (about all the library had in the way of books for my particular research (Italian)) and still probably have more research to do. A distant cousin was with me and she showed me how to use the directories. My advice is to first look at all sections of the directory including the front page to get a feel for it. Look at the list of abbreviations so you understand what they mean. She also showed me that once you find your people in the directory itself - to look in the back where it's listed by street names. Find that address in numerical order and see what buildings it was near or sometimes what building it actually was. For instance, I found that my people lived in a hotel. If the directory lists their business address or employer, you can look for that as well. Most of them didn't own a vehicle in the past and therefore would most likely have walked to work. Does anyone know what areas the Birmingham directories cover? Just the city itself? Any of the outlying areas? Like New Castle or Pinson area? Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN

McCombs/Lovick Cemetery in Irondale - Sarah Ratliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Melba Clark<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] McCombs cemetery for Melba Kelly, Which McCombs Cemetery -- the one at Leeds or the one at Oak Grove Church near Crosston? Was Sarah's surname Ratliff, too? Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Culpepper" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Hello Melba, You shared with me that Clyde Ratliff's aunt (Sarah) was > buried in McCombs cemetery. Do you by chance have her dates? Does she > have a stone? I want to hire someone to photograph the cemetery for me, > but I need to collect a little more info. Thanks for checking if you have > time! Kelly Culpepper, Llano TX > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was too quick to send the first email. It looks like they have also added another database as well and re-vamped the local history section: http://bpldb.bplonline.org/ Melissa

Birmingham Public Library Birmingham Newspaper Obituary Index Online & Searchable 1960-1976 http://bpldb.bplonline.org/db/obituaries I believe there is more to come. Melissa

In a message dated 9/18/2006 12:28:48 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Now I'll go try to find the address where we lived in 1942 in Birmingham. If you find the address, post it and if it's feasible I'll take a picture of the house (if it's still there) and send to you. Laura

There are city directories. The Birmingham Public Library has quite a collection of them. Wallace State College at Hanceville, AL, also has a large collection. Hope this helps, Melba Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Catholic Baptism > > Thanks to everyone who helped me. I found out I was baptized in Blessed > Sacrament Church. That leads me to another quest....<grin>. Isn't it > funny > how the answer to one question leads you to another question? > > Now I'll go try to find the address where we lived in 1942 in Birmingham. > > Linda

pull up the Birmingham Public Library web site and they have a "ask a librarian" perhaps she could copy the page of the city directory for that name and year and mail to you, they charge only a small fee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Catholic Baptism | | Thanks to everyone who helped me. I found out I was baptized in Blessed | Sacrament Church. That leads me to another quest....<grin>. Isn't it funny | how the answer to one question leads you to another question? | | Now I'll go try to find the address where we lived in 1942 in Birmingham. | | Linda | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Anderson family line, coming out of western South Carolina {North Carolina or Virginia before that ?} seems to be a large and diversified line. One part of that line made its way to Madison County in North Alabama, and then to Jefferson County. The following may be of interest to anyone wanting to look into that part of the Anderson line. www.hueytown.org/historical/Sheriffs_of_Jefferson_County_A.pdf Feel free to use or pass along any part of this material if you think it would be interest to others. Carl Thomas Knoxville, Tennessee

Linda, I know that the Birmingham Public Library's genealogy department has some older Birmingham City Directories. I don't know that they have one for 1942 or that they would do a lookup for you, but you might try contacting them. It's possible that someone on the list who lives in Birmingham and frequents the Library would do a look up for you. Jim Nix ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Catholic Baptism > > Thanks to everyone who helped me. I found out I was baptized in Blessed > Sacrament Church. That leads me to another quest....<grin>. Isn't it > funny > how the answer to one question leads you to another question? > > Now I'll go try to find the address where we lived in 1942 in Birmingham. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St. Paul's Catholic Cathedral in downtown Birmingham, ph 205-251-1279 may be of help to you. regards, radams

Here is a link for Catholic research in Alabama and Mississippi that gives the address of the Birmingham diocese: http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/CatholicUS-MobileAL-Miss.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:02 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Catholic Baptism >I am new to this list. I was born in Birmingham in 1942 and was baptized a > Catholic shortly after my birth. I am trying to locate a record of my > baptism. My parents and grandparents are all deceased, so I don't know > which church we belonged to or even where we lived when we lived in > Birmingham. I'm trying to fill in some blanks on my personal genealogy, > which is part of a 40-year genealogy quest to document my family. Now > that > I'm getting up in years, I'm trying to fill in my personal information. > > Does anyone know if there is a regional Catholic office that I could > contact > that could give me that record? I would appreciate any tips and hints you > can give me. > > Linda (in Arizona) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who helped me. I found out I was baptized in Blessed Sacrament Church. That leads me to another quest....<grin>. Isn't it funny how the answer to one question leads you to another question? Now I'll go try to find the address where we lived in 1942 in Birmingham. Linda

There is a Catholic school - John Carroll on the west side of Birningham. Maybe they can direct you. Good luck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Catholic Baptism >I am new to this list. I was born in Birmingham in 1942 and was baptized a > Catholic shortly after my birth. I am trying to locate a record of my > baptism. My parents and grandparents are all deceased, so I don't know > which church we belonged to or even where we lived when we lived in > Birmingham. I'm trying to fill in some blanks on my personal genealogy, > which is part of a 40-year genealogy quest to document my family. Now > that > I'm getting up in years, I'm trying to fill in my personal information. > > Does anyone know if there is a regional Catholic office that I could > contact > that could give me that record? I would appreciate any tips and hints you > can give me. > > Linda (in Arizona) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am new to this list. I was born in Birmingham in 1942 and was baptized a Catholic shortly after my birth. I am trying to locate a record of my baptism. My parents and grandparents are all deceased, so I don't know which church we belonged to or even where we lived when we lived in Birmingham. I'm trying to fill in some blanks on my personal genealogy, which is part of a 40-year genealogy quest to document my family. Now that I'm getting up in years, I'm trying to fill in my personal information. Does anyone know if there is a regional Catholic office that I could contact that could give me that record? I would appreciate any tips and hints you can give me. Linda (in Arizona)