In a message dated 10/19/2006 4:55:45 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My father worked for the old BRL&P {Birmingham Railway Light & Power Co} from the end of WW I until his death in 1945. Initially he was a I remember riding to downtown Bham on the trolley when I was little. I was fascinated by the way the sparks would fly when the trolley passed certain junctions. We would ride from the western side of town, getting on the trolley on 3rd Avenue W. and get off somewhere downtown. Speaking of downtown, who remembers Rumore's Record Rack (where I spent my total allowance as soon as I got it) and the old Krystal with the oval window and the buttery REAL french fries in the little paper containers. By the way, I recant my previous resolution to not discuss anything but genealogy. I had a weak moment brought on by that person's irateness, but this is just too much fun.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 4:27:16 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: someplace they had a dividing line between the south streets and the north streets, the 18th St S and 21st Ave are around the UAB Medical Center, the north is mor around the city proper. Morris Avenue is the dividing line

The Redmont which is another old hotel still exists at 2101-5th Avenue,No.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 4:00:13 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: somewhere on 20th Street I think ... perhaps 3rd or 4th Avenue north. Corner of 21st and Park Place. Diagonal across from the Birmingham Public Library Main Building and across Park Place from the Southern History building (genealogy) which backs up to Linn Park. It's too far down for the one you are talking about. If anyone remembers Fix-Play, I'm thinking it's near where it was.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 3:46:17 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Did it have any fish in it? I don't know about fish, but I do recall that there was a house, I think, across from the college that had sort of a moat around it and they always put a Christmas tree out on a float. Every year we rode over there to see that tree. We thought it was so wonderful. I guess the moat was somehow connected to the lake.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 3:44:55 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm going to have a glass of iced tea for supper just like I did back in the fifties when I was a teenager....does that qualify as a good post here? Only if you have it in a magenta colored aluminum glass, stirred with a long handled red tea spoon.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 3:39:21 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: 3rd and fourth and about 23rd and 24th north. There was the Grenada Hotel in that area...near the YWCA, I think. Not too many years ago it was still in use.

Someone mentioned possibility it was the Tutweiler. Tutweiler's address is 2021 Park Place No., Bham.

Whew! That's what I get for going 26 hours without checking this list. OUCH! I just have a few comments. I am very proud of the people on this list and 95% of the emails that were sent in the last 24 hours were within the general guidelines that we have always followed with this list. With the exception of the postings of one person, less than 5% (or so) of the posts weren't on topic, however, quite a few of the postings were pretty borderline. There are currently 265 people subscribed to this list. This time yesterday there were 272. Many people enjoyed the conversations on the last 24 hours and many that didn't simply hit delete. However, six people just quietly (and one loudly) unsubscribed and several more emailed me privately asking me to get us back on topic. So please remember, if you have a thank you for someone specific, a question for more clarification on something that specifically relates to you,or just personal reminiscing please do NOT send those mails to the list, send them directly to the one or two people that they are directed at. Ask yourself, of the 265 people subscribed to this list can I honestly say that more that two or three want to hear what I have to say? If not, please email the interested parties separately from the list. And while I'm at it, please don't send emails with comments like "me too", "thanks", etc. I want you to all feel like this is your list, but to do that we all have to remember that this is a very divergent group. Some of us may enjoy reminiscing about the recent past, but many of us never experienced it. On the other hand, ALL of us are interested in the genealogy of the people from Jefferson Co, AL and that is where the emphasis should be and what we should be focusing on. BTW, if someone actually wants to start an ALJEFFER-chat mailist, I think that would be great and I'm all for it. I am afraid I don't have the time right now to do it myself, but I will gladly support and help anyone who wants to start on. Email me (privately) <grin> if you are interested in hosting such a list. And now, I'd like to turn the floor back over to what I know to be one of the finest groups of genealogists anywhere. And I sincerely mean that. I too subscribe to many lists, but I can honestly say that none of them have as warm, thoughtful and supportive group of genealogists as ALJEFFER. Sincerely Nancy [email protected] Oops. While I was writing this email another person just unsubscribed. Better get back to good old fashioned digging up bones or I'm going to all alone here, like I was when I started this thing <grin>..

I knew it had been a long time since it was in operation. Rem.going there as a teenager with relatives that lived in B'ham. Ann

Joy Young moved to the old parking deck of Brookwood Hospital. It closed down years ago after the owner died. >From: "Ann Hughes" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: [ALJEFFER] Old restaurant >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:23:00 -0500 > >Does anyone remember the Joy Young Restaurant in down town?Wonderful >food.Ann > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail

Was this lake close to Woodlawn? Ann

Does anyone remember the Joy Young Restaurant in down town?Wonderful food.Ann

My Dad worked for TCI. I believe that the only money that they had to spend in the company store was when they got an “Advance” on their wages. This advance was paid in TCI Script also called Clacker. The money in their pay envelopes on payday was in US dollars. TCI was originally founded in Tracey City, Tn and was called The Tennessee Coal Iron & Railroad Company. It was later bought by US Steel. I was raised in a TCI coal mining village. It was a good place to grow up and I have many memories of a happy childhood and the many fine people I lived among. Walter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.6/486 - Release Date: 10/19/2006

Hillman Hospital was located on 20th Street South between 6th and 7th Avenues. It has been incorporated in the UAB Hospital system and still stands. At one time the babies were housed in the old Hillman building. >From: James Roberts <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Birmingham circa 1945 looking for news reports >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:38:38 -0500 > >Where was the Hillman hospital located? Was it next to any hotels that >any of my relatives might have stayed at? > >Carl & Martha Thomas wrote: > > >At 02:37 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote: > > > > > >>I know nothing much about Birmingham, but I do know that for a time, > >>early on, one of the prominent hotels was the Florence. I don't know > >>whether or not it still existed in 1945. It is just another name for > >>your consideration. > >> > >> > > > >Oops, and apologies. My old memory did indeed misfire. It was the > >Florence Hotel that burned to the ground in the thirties. > > > >Incidentally, I don't think that there is any link between the > >Hillman Hotel and the Hillman Hospital except for the names. > > > >Carl in Knoxville, Tennessee > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline

At 09:00 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote: >Before the trolleys there were street cars that ran on tracks which were >imbedded into the streets. You really would need to be "older than dirt >to remember them." The term "street cars" and electric "trolleys" are synonymous. They mean the same thing. Carl, in Knoxville Tennessee

I don't understand so much seeming indignation and anger (?) about a few meanderings into nostalgia. There really wasn't that much. Just a few paragraphs tossed out here and there. Guess I'm not much of a purist. But I apologize for offending anyone on the list to the point of their wanting to unsubscribe. Guess they never had a Graysons milk shake. That's all I'm going to say on the subject. Now back to genealogy. Quinn, Mauldin, Snead.

Before the trolleys there were street cars that ran on tracks which were imbedded into the streets. You really would need to be "older than dirt to remember them." Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Birmingham circa 1945 looking for news reports yes or they were called trolleys - Carl, you the expert on this. There is a photo of "Passengers in the late 1940's get off and on an East Lake Trolley from a raised platform in the middle of Twentitieth Street" This book was one of a series published a publishing co in Miami, FL., on several of the larger cities, Dr McMillan was from Auburn, he was a pro at AU and also a patient of the doctor I worked for. Since it is listed in the Library of Congress, you may can see some of the photos by just putting in Malcolm Cook McMillan - the ISBN is 0-912458-40-2. I know that my children's grandfather was part of the HABS project and took many photographs over Alabama and the LOC said I could print them out from my computerm this was a WPA project. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Birmingham circa 1945 looking for news reports | Did they use to have streetcars in Birmingham? | | JC wrote: | | >My GreatUncle ran the old Hillman when it was on its last leg, | >Middle 50's | >. If memory serves it was between 3rd and 4th avenue and about 23 and 24th | >st. north. | >I have been away a long time but I think thats right. The location | >the lady | >talked about may have been the old YWCA. | >jc harris | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: "Carl & Martha Thomas" <[email protected]> | >To: <[email protected]> | >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:38 PM | >Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Birmingham circa 1945 looking for news reports | > | > | > | > | >>At 02:29 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote: | >> | >> | >>>My grandmother, Queenie Morris, died on September 12, 1945 after a | >>>fall from a window of a hotel located at 205 N. 24 Street in | >>>Birmingham. Was that the Hillman Hotel? | >>> | >>> | >>I don't think it was the Hillman Hotel, unless my old brain is | >>failing. | >> | >>To the best of my recollection, the Hillman Hotel burned to the | >>ground some time in the thirties. | >> | >>There was another hotel located very near the offices of the | >>Birmingham News newspaper, and the above address might fit that one | >>better. If so, perhaps an inquiry sent to the archives of the | >>Birmingham News might be helpful. | >> | >>Carl in Knoxville, Tennessee | >> | >> | >>------------------------------- | >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without | >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | >> | >> | >> | > | >------------------------------- | >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | > | > | > | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/19/2006 6:40:15 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There's a lot of "family history" tied up in the places we've talked about. For example, if someone was looking for info on the Lowe family of Birmingham, I could tell them that one line of Lowe's owned the skating rink that many of us have fond memories of and that they lived in the Fair Oaks Section of Bham, in Fairfield, actually and that Lucky Lowe was a famous water skier.

In a message dated 10/19/2006 6:32:59 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Is this no longer a genealogy site? Sorry...guess sometimes it's easy to digress, but it IS our history...just the more recent past. Laura