I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even though I have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for a number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again with all the activity on this list. My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when he was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an Aliese Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice of the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan Johnson. In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her name on the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, and Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know where my Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came from in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I can't imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or why, so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back in those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come from? Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have found them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved to Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), and William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about Aliese Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a response from her.

I wasn't going to chime in. But here I am My great grand parents Robert Washington and Mary Jane Moore (Maternal family was Franklin) Glenn left Jefferson Co. just after the 1850 census. But I have really enjoyed the stories that were told. Even though they were long after my family left. I went to my local Los Angeles, California site and was very disappointed. I could get pictures of old Los Angeles etc. But none of the stories. I spent more than a couple of hours reading your stories and was very sorry that I don't have back ground for my Glenn-Moore family. You are right Alice about the stories. I am pushing 75 myself. My grandchildren really don't know me or no about the wonderful town that my husband there Grandfather and I were raised here in Sunny Southern California. I definitely will add a lot to our story. I had the experience this last summer of meeting one of the newer generation (age 21) of GLENN'S. His grandfather had been a favorite of mine and I started telling Stories about his grandfather Billy Glenn. Billy had died in the early 60's. Kyle sat for hours listening to me and the other cousins gathered around and started talking about the family where they lived, how they made a living, the Civil War, how many of the family were killed, where and WHY they move onward. Kyle then wisely said. If our history and geography teachers would have us study American History like this maybe we would like it and understand it more. In another words GENEALOGIST add meat to your story!!!!!!!!!! Had to put my two cents in even though its been a long time since my AMERSON-HALLMARK family left BLOUNT CO., Alabama in 1868 and GLENN-MOORE family left JEFFERSON CO., Alabama in 1850 to meet in IUKA, TISHOMINGO CO., MISSISSIPPI. If any of your families went to Tishomingo Co., Mississippi I do have the family book that was put out in 1997. Also I have the Alcorn Co., Ms book put out in 1998. Frieda Glenn Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Message from the list administrator >I joined the ALJeffer list for the specific purpose of finding out about > the community, the people who lived there, their occupations, all so > that I could place my ancestors into their proper place in their > community. > > For those 'nouveau genealogists' who only want a list of names, dates, > parents, & offspring, perhaps this purpose does not serve them so well. > But a real genealogist IS looking for just those little things that will > tie his family and their neighbors together into a recognizable whole. > > So I, for one, encourage the sort of banter that we've been having and > wish there were more of it. Every little bit of knowledge we have > brings us that nearer whatever genealogical goal we have. > > For those who are just collecting data to fill the blanks and don't want > to know about the people they are collecting, well there is the delete > key to use. Lord knows, I use it on lots of surname queries for people > that I have no info on. It should work both ways. I don't mind that at > all, because I might have known the surname. You other guys ought not > to mind deleting posts on local history that you aren't interested in > reading. > > Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are > historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our > memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not > be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last > remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her > parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, > how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had > a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a > bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I > anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip > the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so > glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will > just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you > know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be > done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information > you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them > off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think > you get the point. > > Alice > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Saw email and thought it might be a good time to revisit. I am looking for more resent information. Looking for information on Hall Shelton Crain. He died in Jefferson County in 1989, buried in Elmwood Cemetery. I am looking for his family. His wife's name was Ellen (no information on her) Randy Crain

I enjoy, very much, opening my mail and getting information from so many. The other day I mailed you back and asked for help finding my Stewart relatives from Blossberg, AL. They are buried in a cemetery there close to a church (?) with a stream either below or to the side of the cemetery. My memories are of going to the cemetery as a child, helping clean up the grave sites, and my brother falling in the stream. But I do not remember where Blossberg is. My grandparents names (?) and Elizabeth Stewart. Where is Blossberg? Peggy Roberts Little ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 61 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS (deb & jim) > 2. Re: TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS (deb & jim) > 3. Re: TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS ([email protected]) > 4. Re: TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS ([email protected]) > 5. Re: Message from the list administrator ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:59:44 -0700 > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Bless you! > > My grandfather was Oather Baxter Tyler who married Queenie Morris in 1924, > Jefferson County, daughter of David Morris and Tennie Tidwell. > > My big brick wall is WHO is the father of Oather Baxter Tyler, my > grandfather. He was born 1897 in either Blount or Jefferson Co. He is > first listed on the 1900 Compton, Blount Co AL census showing him as > BAXTER > TYLER, b. approx. 1898; Father is shown as JOHN TYLER b. approx. 1853 in > AL; > Mother is Martha J Tyler b. approx. 1860 in AL; many siblings listed. In > 1910 they are in Dorris, Walker Co, AL with Oather listed as OTHER TYLER, > 10 > years old. The 1920 census in Precinct 39, Jefferson Co, AL shows OTHER > TYLER ,brother in-law, living in household with WILLIAM and ELLAR O > HUBBARD. > I'm not sure of the ELLAR connection; at first I thought sister of his, > but > in 1900 she is shown as ELLA TYLER, 1910 ELLA CUBRESON (CULVERSON); then > 1920 ELLAR HUBBARD, although ages are pretty right on. > > JOHN, MARTHA and OATHER TYLER are next to each other at Shanghai Baptist > Cemetery. > > If these people are who I think, they all were born and died in Alabama. > It > would help to know Martha's maiden name; there is marriage record of a > John > Tyler to Martha Baxley, but that would mean she was 8 years old when > married; I've been checking on a Martha Jane Pearson, which would explain > some Pearsons living in the household in 1900. It appears that JOHN TYLER > and MARTHA TYLER are out of the picture in 1910; what happened to them? > I've also considered where the BAXTER name came from; was that a maternal > family name? and on and on......... > > So, I have been researching the ENOCH TYLER line extensively, as well as > ANDERSON TYLER...... > > ANYTHING you can throw in here would be great! > > Thank you. > > Deb > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Irma Roy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > > >> What are some of the given names of your TYLER family that you are >> researching? My late husband, Dewey Roy, descended from Enoch TYLER >> whose >> descendants lived in Jefferson County. I have a considerable data base >> on >> the TYLER family although I don't have an Isaac mentioned in your >> query. If we connect will be happy to share. >> >> Irma J. Roy >> >> At 12:29 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote: >>>How would one get information regarding a probate matter before the >>>Jefferson Co. Probate Court from 1880? Am looking at a notice in the >>>ALABAMA TRUE ISSUE dated November 13, 1880; Judge was J.C. Morrow, re: >>>estate of Isaac B Tyler, and notice is to Mrs. Helen B. Tyler. Court >>>hearing set for Dec.16, 1880. >>> >>>Since my Tylers are from Jefferson Co, thought I'd check it out. >>> >>>Thank you >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:01:18 -0700 > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I should have mentioned that given names in the Tyler family have been > Lloyd, Gene, George, Carl, Luther.... > and a LOT of Marthas and Marys.......... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Irma Roy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > > >> What are some of the given names of your TYLER family that you are >> researching? My late husband, Dewey Roy, descended from Enoch TYLER >> whose >> descendants lived in Jefferson County. I have a considerable data base >> on >> the TYLER family although I don't have an Isaac mentioned in your >> query. If we connect will be happy to share. >> >> Irma J. Roy >> >> At 12:29 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote: >>>How would one get information regarding a probate matter before the >>>Jefferson Co. Probate Court from 1880? Am looking at a notice in the >>>ALABAMA TRUE ISSUE dated November 13, 1880; Judge was J.C. Morrow, re: >>>estate of Isaac B Tyler, and notice is to Mrs. Helen B. Tyler. Court >>>hearing set for Dec.16, 1880. >>> >>>Since my Tylers are from Jefferson Co, thought I'd check it out. >>> >>>Thank you >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:42:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Have you tried pulling death certificates on your brick walls? They have > a > lot of good information and sometimes they are easier to get than birth > certificates. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:12:49 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > The probate office in Birmingham is very helpful. You might try them by > phone. They might mail it to you. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:11:19 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Message from the list administrator > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 10/20/2006 11:09:32 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > BTW, if someone > | actually wants to start an ALJEFFER-chat mailist, I think that would be > | great and I'm all for it. I am afraid I don't have the time right now > | to do it myself, but I will gladly support and help anyone who wants to > | start on. Email me (privately) <grin> if you are interested in hosting > | such a list. > > > > You know...that's probably not a bad idea, however, I suspect that this > veering off from the purported original purpose of the list is a brief, > but > bright flare and will flicker out soon, until the next time. I'm loving > it, but > wonder if we had a list specific for our memories, how long once we've > said > remember this and remember that...that it would continue. But, then > again, > maybe the remember this and remember that will turn into longer and more > lovely > stories than we've already had. I'm so steeped in memories and nostalgia > now > just from our little ride down the unbeaten path that I'm ready for more. > > Also, not to be snide, but maybe it is....if GENEALOGY is someone's idea > of > what the Jefferson County list is, then should one would dare to continue > asking about a hotel where someone worked, or a hospital where an > ancestor was > born or a chemical plant near Bessemer? I really thought the surnames > lists > were more specific and that Jefferson County was more broad, but > apparently I > was laboring under a misunderstanding. Maybe it should be called the > Jefferson County Surname List to prevent annoying others in the future. > > Again...It's been a blast from the past the last week and I'll miss it. > > Laura > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALJEFFER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ALJEFFER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 61 > ***************************************

Amen, Alice! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alice Campbell Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Message from the list administrator I joined the ALJeffer list for the specific purpose of finding out about the community, the people who lived there, their occupations, all so that I could place my ancestors into their proper place in their community. For those 'nouveau genealogists' who only want a list of names, dates, parents, & offspring, perhaps this purpose does not serve them so well. But a real genealogist IS looking for just those little things that will tie his family and their neighbors together into a recognizable whole. So I, for one, encourage the sort of banter that we've been having and wish there were more of it. Every little bit of knowledge we have brings us that nearer whatever genealogical goal we have. For those who are just collecting data to fill the blanks and don't want to know about the people they are collecting, well there is the delete key to use. Lord knows, I use it on lots of surname queries for people that I have no info on. It should work both ways. I don't mind that at all, because I might have known the surname. You other guys ought not to mind deleting posts on local history that you aren't interested in reading. Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think you get the point. Alice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AIN'T IT GREAT! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline > and obits online! I had no idea those were there -- click on "more > databases" and just admire the wealth of stuff! > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH as widow from Roanok Island; Sons Abel, Solomon. Daughters Keziah Etheridge, Elizabeth Ashby; Granddaughter Elizabeth Chaplain. Exrs: son Solomon and daughter Elizabeth. Wit: Mauris Baum, Jr. and Tart Etheridge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > May be a longshot, but in Ancestry.com there is a list of N.C. Will > Abstracts, 1760-1800; shows in 1776 ASHBY, SOLOMON, Elizabeth (wife), Abel > and Solomon and 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH, Abel, Solomon and Elizabeth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:44 AM > Subject: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > >> I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even >> though >> I >> have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to >> time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for a >> number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again >> with >> all the activity on this list. >> >> My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when >> he >> was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in >> 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an Aliese >> Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan >> Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice >> of >> the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan Johnson. >> In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd >> great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her name >> on >> the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, >> Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, >> and >> Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know where >> my >> Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came >> from >> in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I >> can't >> imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or >> why, >> so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down >> there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back >> in >> those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come >> from? >> Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have >> found >> them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web >> site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved >> to >> Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, >> Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), and >> William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. >> >> Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about >> Aliese >> Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a >> response from her. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

May be a longshot, but in Ancestry.com there is a list of N.C. Will Abstracts, 1760-1800; shows in 1776 ASHBY, SOLOMON, Elizabeth (wife), Abel and Solomon and 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH, Abel, Solomon and Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:44 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even though > I > have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to > time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for a > number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again > with > all the activity on this list. > > My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when > he > was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in > 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an Aliese > Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan > Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice of > the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan Johnson. > In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd > great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her name > on > the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, > Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, > and > Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know where > my > Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came > from > in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I > can't > imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or why, > so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down > there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back > in > those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come > from? > Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have > found > them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web > site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved > to > Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, > Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), and > William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. > > Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about > Aliese > Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a > response from her. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Irma, just a quick note while i'm going through the info you sent; on the 1850 Bairds Beat District 32, Jefferson Co, census, it shows HH#29, WILLIAM TYLER age 50 b. VA,; MARGARET TYLER, age 28 b. GA;, ELIZABETH TYLER, age 9 b. AL; GEORGE W age 7, b. AL; MATILDA age 6, b. AL; WILLIAM (L?) age 2, b. AL; and NANCY J CARROLL, age 15 b. GA. HH#34 is AARON TAYLOR, age 50 b. NC w/ family HH#35 is RANDAL J TYLER, age 44 b. TN w/ family HH#36 is JOHN TYLER, age 65 b. VA w/family including ROSANNA who is 100 b. VA So, all of these Tylers/Taylor are in Jefferson Co in 1850, and I think these are where I should be focusing. Anyway, I remember seeing NANCY CARROLL with these TYLERS and noticed the CARROLLS on your line. Again, thanks for your generosity; i will be poring over your info! btw, Oather Tyler's SSDI shows last residence in Dora, Walker Co, Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irma Roy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > What are some of the given names of your TYLER family that you are > researching? My late husband, Dewey Roy, descended from Enoch TYLER whose > descendants lived in Jefferson County. I have a considerable data base on > the TYLER family although I don't have an Isaac mentioned in your > query. If we connect will be happy to share. > > Irma J. Roy > > At 12:29 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote: >>How would one get information regarding a probate matter before the >>Jefferson Co. Probate Court from 1880? Am looking at a notice in the >>ALABAMA TRUE ISSUE dated November 13, 1880; Judge was J.C. Morrow, re: >>estate of Isaac B Tyler, and notice is to Mrs. Helen B. Tyler. Court >>hearing set for Dec.16, 1880. >> >>Since my Tylers are from Jefferson Co, thought I'd check it out. >> >>Thank you >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm waiting now for Oather Tyler's death cert; received two death certs, one for John Marion Tyler d. 1913 in Jefferson Co and one for John Allen Tyler, d. 1910 at Bryce Hospital; and would you believe neither have parent info........! so, if anyone has info on these men or need a death cert for one, i have it! Also have Martha Matilda Pearson's death cert from 1914 in Walker Co.; her parents were Robert Pearson and Elizabeth P Bradshaw. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS > Have you tried pulling death certificates on your brick walls? They have > a > lot of good information and sometimes they are easier to get than birth > certificates. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I joined the ALJeffer list for the specific purpose of finding out about the community, the people who lived there, their occupations, all so that I could place my ancestors into their proper place in their community. For those 'nouveau genealogists' who only want a list of names, dates, parents, & offspring, perhaps this purpose does not serve them so well. But a real genealogist IS looking for just those little things that will tie his family and their neighbors together into a recognizable whole. So I, for one, encourage the sort of banter that we've been having and wish there were more of it. Every little bit of knowledge we have brings us that nearer whatever genealogical goal we have. For those who are just collecting data to fill the blanks and don't want to know about the people they are collecting, well there is the delete key to use. Lord knows, I use it on lots of surname queries for people that I have no info on. It should work both ways. I don't mind that at all, because I might have known the surname. You other guys ought not to mind deleting posts on local history that you aren't interested in reading. Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think you get the point. Alice

In a message dated 10/20/2006 11:09:32 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: BTW, if someone | actually wants to start an ALJEFFER-chat mailist, I think that would be | great and I'm all for it. I am afraid I don't have the time right now | to do it myself, but I will gladly support and help anyone who wants to | start on. Email me (privately) <grin> if you are interested in hosting | such a list. You know...that's probably not a bad idea, however, I suspect that this veering off from the purported original purpose of the list is a brief, but bright flare and will flicker out soon, until the next time. I'm loving it, but wonder if we had a list specific for our memories, how long once we've said remember this and remember that...that it would continue. But, then again, maybe the remember this and remember that will turn into longer and more lovely stories than we've already had. I'm so steeped in memories and nostalgia now just from our little ride down the unbeaten path that I'm ready for more. Also, not to be snide, but maybe it is....if GENEALOGY is someone's idea of what the Jefferson County list is, then should one would dare to continue asking about a hotel where someone worked, or a hospital where an ancestor was born or a chemical plant near Bessemer? I really thought the surnames lists were more specific and that Jefferson County was more broad, but apparently I was laboring under a misunderstanding. Maybe it should be called the Jefferson County Surname List to prevent annoying others in the future. Again...It's been a blast from the past the last week and I'll miss it. Laura

The probate office in Birmingham is very helpful. You might try them by phone. They might mail it to you. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

Have you tried pulling death certificates on your brick walls? They have a lot of good information and sometimes they are easier to get than birth certificates. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

for those of use who like the mails about Jefferson County and Birmingham that are not absolutely genealogy, why not make a list of all those who are in your mailbox and then give them a name ie. undisclosed recipents and when you send the e-mails, it will go to all of us who are interested in Birmingham and the surrounding area in addition to the geneology info, that way we wouldn't have to start a new list, just be sure all who are interested have their e-mail address in the file and everybody would have the name and addresses in their mailbox and it would not intefere with the ALJEFFER list mail - you could just call it Birmingham and put all the e-mail addresses under it and send your mail to just Birmingham and it would pick up all the e-mail addresses on each person ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl & Martha Thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Birmingham circa 1945 looking for news reports | >Please discuss the old days in private e-mails. Please. | | Well, OK ...... certainly don't want to distract or bother anyone. | | I do think there are many who see "genealogy" as much much more than | just names and dates on a diagram ......... for many of us, genealogy | and family history includes those things that tend to bring the | people alive in our memories ...... old pictures whenever | available.... information about the history and circumstances of | their lives ... where they lived. what kind of work they did.... etc. | | But ...in any case, to avoid having such things become a | distraction, I would be happy to shift off-list with those who are | interested ....... but other than via initial contacts on-list, I | don't know how to get those contacts initially or learn what people | are interested in. | | Carl, in Knoxville, Tennessee | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/19/2006 2:38:59 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There was another hotel located very near the offices of the Birmingham News newspaper, and the above address might fit that one better. If so, perhaps an inquiry sent to the archives of the Birmingham News might be helpful. I actually think the one near the News was the Grenada/Granada. The one she's talking about sounds like maybe on or near the corner of 2nd Avenue and 24th St., No. Somewhere near the main post office which is 351-24th Street, No.

Whoo! You got me there! I never knew about any mule drawn trolleys! Very interesting.

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In a message dated 10/20/2006 9:24:32 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do believe you are correct in naming Grenada. A Senior Moment hit me and I cpould not recall the name. Also my first date (9th grade) was at Joy Youngs in one of the closed booths. Was it cool or what? If I'm remembering right, the Grenada/Granada (?) was on the corner of 4th Avenue and 23rd Street, No. The YWCA's address is 309-23rd St., No. If you come out of the Y on 23rd St and turn right, go to the corner and cross the intersection on a diagonal, you would be at the Granada, which faced 4th Avenue. I'm going to have to drive downtown now and see what's there now. It's going to drive me crazy.

I remember the streetcars well, Carl. As a young child I was always fascinated with the narrow "split" boards running up and down the floors of the cars.