I think all adoption records prior to about 1940 is public record, but then if you look in the right place, you ca find them now ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS | The probate office in Birmingham is very helpful. You might try them by | phone. They might mail it to you. | | Rae Williams | www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Rae, would you look in your book to see if there are any FARLEYS listed? They are my paternal ancestors who migrated from SC, NC, KY, and other places to AL. Thank you for generously offering to check surnames. Bonnie Farley Gary, MS

yes they are and because they are later, then you have more to go on ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS | Have you tried pulling death certificates on your brick walls? They have a | lot of good information and sometimes they are easier to get than birth | certificates. | | Rae Williams | www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

I've decided to resign as list administrator for the ALJEFFER list. I have been considering this for a while because my personal obligations no longer allow me as much time as I once had for genealogy. Until now I have put this off because this list has functioned pretty well with only minimal guidance. That is no longer true. The problems currently on this list are my fault. As I have said before, this list consists of an exceptionally good group of folks, but this list has gotten very large and a bit ragged. People are unsubscribing left and right and my meager pleas have done nothing to correct the problems. This list needs and deserves a list administrator that can give it the time and effort that it deserves, and I am afraid that is no longer me. SO, if you are interested in taking over the ALJEFFER mailist please email me. It would be easiest for someone who already adminsters lists for rootsweb, or someone with a lot of mailist experience or at minimum someone who is a quick study in things online related or has the time or willingess to learn on their own. Unfortunately I don't really have the time to teach someone. Motovation however is the strongest factor of all and if you really want to do this, for the right reasons, then you probably can. Please email me if you are interested and please don't hold back thinking that this is just an emotional reaction on m,y part, it is not. I am going to give the list up, my mind is made up, but it would be better for the list if it had a new administrator first. Thanks guys. Its been a good eight and a half years since I started this list, and I love you to death, but I am looking forward to getting back to actually occasionally posting to lists again instead of adminstering them. Email me at [email protected] Nancy

Could you please tell me if there are any Rochester's listed? Thank you for your time. [email protected] wrote: Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If you have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would recommend buying the book. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Genealogy is my Hobby, I collect ancestors !

Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If you have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would recommend buying the book. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

Frieda When you get a chance could you check on the SEARCY surname and any descendants of Freeman JONES? Martha JONES married Aaron SEARCY and migrated prior to 1850 to Monroe County, MS, later split into Tishimingo and finally Alcorn I believe. Freeman is Martha's brother . . . he from what I can tell died prior to 1860, wife's name was "Ellen" - had several sons though. Martha and Freeman are siblings to one of my great grandmothers. Thanks, Melissa ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:34:55 -0700 From: "Frieda" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] (no subject) To: <[email protected]> <<snip>> Had to put my two cents in even though its been a long time since my AMERSON-HALLMARK family left BLOUNT CO., Alabama in 1868 and GLENN-MOORE family left JEFFERSON CO., Alabama in 1850 to meet in IUKA, TISHOMINGO CO., MISSISSIPPI. If any of your families went to Tishomingo Co., Mississippi I do have the family book that was put out in 1997. Also I have the Alcorn Co., Ms book put out in 1998. Frieda Glenn Bennett

Rae, are there any Waits or Waites names listed in the homestead book? Thanks for your help. Doug Doug Purcell Eufaula, AL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALJEFFER] Homestead map Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If you have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would recommend buying the book. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone would like a place to post stories or pictures, I would be happy to do so on my website. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

In a message dated 10/21/2006 3:00:13 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think you get the point. Well said, Alice, Laura

Rae, Thank you so much for your help. Now I can begin the search and maybe I can find what my g. grandfather Stewart's name is and maybe even what he did for a living, etc. Peggy Roberts Little [[email protected]] ----- Original Message ----- From: <aljeffer-request[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 63 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Jones, Mayes, Corpening ([email protected]) > 2. Re: ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 61 ([email protected]) > 3. Re: Jones, Mayes, Corpening ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Johnson and Ashby (deb & jim) > 5. BPLOnline ([email protected]) > 6. Crain (Randy Crain) > 7. Re: BPLOnline ([email protected]) > 8. Re: Johnson and Ashby (deb & jim) > 9. Re: BPLOnline (deb & jim) > 10. Re: Jones, Mayes, Corpening ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:22:13 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ALJEFFER] Jones, Mayes, Corpening > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > I am trying to find information on this family: > I would appreciate any help. > > Thanks Bobbie, North Carolina > > Re:Carrie Corpening widow of Paul Corpening > according to her death certificate: > b/July 16, 1895 Republic, Jefferson County, AL > d/46yo - Jan 30, 1942, in Mabscott, Raleigh County,WVA > Parents listed as: > dad:Thomas Mayes b/ALA > mom:Bell Jones b/ALA > relative/Ed Mayes living in Mabscott, Raleigh County,WVA > > burial:Feb 2, 1942 > cemetery: Minden, Fayette County, WVA > funeral dir:R. L. Wright East Beckley, Raleigh County, WVA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:24:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 61 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I was curious about Blossberg (the question) so I started a search. > Nothing. I changed the spelling to Blossburg and hit a big long list. > Google maps > says it is on 5/78, the Adamsville Parkway, not far north of Adamsville, > abo > ut the same amount south of Graysville. It is small enough to not have > its > own census data. Mapquest.com says it is north northeast of Adamsville > on > Cherry Avenue, northeast of Graysville. > > Nearby cemeteries would include (according to the internet) > _Adams Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68420) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Bagley Bend Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68613) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Bivens Chapel Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68933) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Cardiff Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=69260) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Crumley Chapel Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=69688) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Glasgow Hill Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=70357) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Hodges Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=70798) > , Jefferson County, AL > _Linn Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71379) , > Jefferson County, AL > _Linns Crossing Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71380) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Maben Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71473) > , Jefferson County, AL > _Midway Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71766) > , Jefferson County, AL > _Mount Olive Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=72059) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Saint Michaels Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=73468) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Shady Grove Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=73662) , Jefferson > County, AL > _Union Grove Cemetery_ > (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=74322) , Jefferson > County, AL > > The town has some infamy. According to the internet: James Thomas was > lynched in Blossburg Alabama July 9 1897. > > On the other hand, Ernie Walker, a baseball player, was born in Blossburg > on > September 17, 1890. > > The 3rd Alabama Volunteer Infantry, an African American unit, had men from > Blossburg. It was formed in 1898. > _http://www.spanamwar.com/3rd%20Alabamahistory.html_ > (http://www.spanamwar.com/3rd%20Alabamahistory.html) > > I found a map of towns involved in mining and so forth and it showed > Blossburg in a different spot, north northeast of Adamsville and northeast > of > Graysville. > > Blossburg had some role in the mine problems in 1894, but I haven't been > able to find details. > > Blossburg Land Company records from 1889-1918 are available through the > Birmingham Public Library in their historical sections. > > If you go to _http://bpldb.bplonline.org/db/coalmine_ > (http://bpldb.bplonline.org/db/coalmine) and choose Blossburg as the > mine name, it lists deaths in > the Blossburg mines. > > In a list of early black physicians, there is one from Blossburg named > Huckabee. _http://www.anes.uab.edu/blackdoctors.htm_ > (http://www.anes.uab.edu/blackdoctors.htm) > > _http://www.brumm.com/familytrees/names70.htm_ > (http://www.brumm.com/familytrees/names70.htm) lists ancestors from > Blossburg. > > There are also towns named Blossburg or Blossberg in Montana and > Pennsylvania. > > There were at least two mines in Blossburg: the Blossburg mine and the > Blossburg East mine. > _http://www.my-usa-data.com/features/FID/146158/AL/Blossburg+East+Mine/_ > (http://www.my-usa-data.com/features/FID/146158/AL/Blossburg+East+Mine/) > has a picture of the Blossburg East Mine. > > > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:27:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Jones, Mayes, Corpening > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > What specifically are you trying to find? > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:28:44 -0700 > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > May be a longshot, but in Ancestry.com there is a list of N.C. Will > Abstracts, 1760-1800; shows in 1776 ASHBY, SOLOMON, Elizabeth (wife), Abel > and Solomon and 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH, Abel, Solomon and Elizabeth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:44 AM > Subject: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > >> I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even >> though >> I >> have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to >> time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for a >> number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again >> with >> all the activity on this list. >> >> My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when >> he >> was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in >> 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an Aliese >> Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan >> Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice >> of >> the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan Johnson. >> In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd >> great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her name >> on >> the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, >> Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, >> and >> Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know where >> my >> Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came >> from >> in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I >> can't >> imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or >> why, >> so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down >> there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back >> in >> those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come >> from? >> Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have >> found >> them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web >> site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved >> to >> Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, >> Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), and >> William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. >> >> Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about >> Aliese >> Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a >> response from her. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:34:25 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Someone mentioned old maps. It also has a list of inventors in Alabama. > You can enter just a county name and get everyone from that county. That > wasted ....er.....consumed a couple of hours of my time this morning. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:34:49 -0500 > From: "Randy Crain" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ALJEFFER] Crain > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Saw email and thought it might be a good time to revisit. > > I am looking for more resent information. Looking for information on Hall > Shelton Crain. He died in Jefferson County in 1989, buried in Elmwood > Cemetery. I am looking for his family. His wife's name was Ellen (no > information on her) > > Randy Crain > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:36:00 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > and obits online! I had no idea those were there -- click on "more > databases" and just admire the wealth of stuff! > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:37:57 -0700 > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH as widow from Roanok Island; Sons Abel, Solomon. > Daughters Keziah Etheridge, Elizabeth Ashby; Granddaughter Elizabeth > Chaplain. Exrs: son Solomon and daughter Elizabeth. Wit: Mauris Baum, Jr. > and Tart Etheridge. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > >> >> May be a longshot, but in Ancestry.com there is a list of N.C. Will >> Abstracts, 1760-1800; shows in 1776 ASHBY, SOLOMON, Elizabeth (wife), >> Abel >> and Solomon and 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH, Abel, Solomon and Elizabeth >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:44 AM >> Subject: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby >> >> >>> I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even >>> though >>> I >>> have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to >>> time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for >>> a >>> number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again >>> with >>> all the activity on this list. >>> >>> My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when >>> he >>> was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in >>> 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an >>> Aliese >>> Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan >>> Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice >>> of >>> the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan >>> Johnson. >>> In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd >>> great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her >>> name >>> on >>> the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, >>> Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, >>> and >>> Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know >>> where >>> my >>> Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came >>> from >>> in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I >>> can't >>> imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or >>> why, >>> so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down >>> there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back >>> in >>> those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come >>> from? >>> Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have >>> found >>> them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web >>> site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved >>> to >>> Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, >>> Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), >>> and >>> William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. >>> >>> Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about >>> Aliese >>> Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a >>> response from her. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:39:02 -0700 > From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > AIN'T IT GREAT! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:36 AM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline > > >> and obits online! I had no idea those were there -- click on "more >> databases" and just admire the wealth of stuff! >> >> Rae Williams >> www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:00:48 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Jones, Mayes, Corpening > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > They all appear to be mystery people. This may be a clue: all of the > Corpenings I saw in that time frame were in North Carolina. Only 75 > records of > any kind kick up for Paul Corpening, using birth dates of 1880-1900. > Most are > in North Carolina. Nothing in Alabama. > > I tried Bell Jones 1867-1880 -- nothing that even vaguely matches. I > tried > it as Bell Mayes trying to get a 1900 census that would include your 1896 > ancestor. Nothing. > > I tried Thomas Mayes with the same dates -- nothing even reasonable and no > wife named Bell. > > > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALJEFFER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ALJEFFER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALJEFFER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 63 > ***************************************

Hi Rae, Thank you for the kind offer, would you mind taking a look for William R Baker? He lived in Jefferson county from 1830 - 1880 around the East Lake area I think. Thank you so much! Kyanne On 10/21/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? > I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If > you > have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would > recommend > buying the book. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > >

Thank you so much for this information. I really appreciate your taking the time to try and help me. This seems like a likely family for my Elizabeth Ashby! Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > May be a longshot, but in Ancestry.com there is a list of N.C. Will > Abstracts, 1760-1800; shows in 1776 ASHBY, SOLOMON, Elizabeth (wife), Abel > and Solomon and 1787 ASHBY, ELIZABETH, Abel, Solomon and Elizabeth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:44 AM > Subject: [ALJEFFER] Johnson and Ashby > > >> I, too, have enjoyed reading all the e-mails about Birmingham, even >> though >> I >> have never lived there, and have only passed through there from time to >> time. I did, however, have ancestors who lived in Jefferson County for a >> number of years, and this seems like a good time to bring them up again >> with >> all the activity on this list. >> >> My 3rd great grandfather was Duncan Johnson. I don't know where or when >> he >> was born (probably in about 1775-1780), but he died in Jefferson Co. in >> 1823. His will was posted on the Johnson Gen Forum web site by an Aliese >> Johnson. Her husband descended from him also. I also found a Duncan >> Johnson in Blount Co. (on the Blount Co. web site) in 1818 as a Justice >> of >> the Peace, and I'm thinking that he was probably the same Duncan Johnson. >> In Duncan's will, he mentions his son, Randolph Johnson, who was my 2nd >> great grandfather, and Elizabeth Ashby was one of the witnesses (her name >> on >> the will was spelled "Ashbay"). A few months later, in July of 1823, >> Randolph and Elizabeth married. Randolph was born in 1800 in Tennessee, >> and >> Elizabeth was born about 1799/1800 in North Carolina. I don't know where >> my >> Johnson's came from in Tennessee, and I don't know where Elizabeth came >> from >> in North Carolina, nor do I know who her parents or siblings were. I >> can't >> imagine that she travelled all the way to Jefferson Co. by herself or >> why, >> so I'm thinking that maybe they met in Tennessee and then travelled down >> there. What would be a likely place in Tennessee to have come from back >> in >> those days? Also, what kind of record would show where they had come >> from? >> Randolph and Elizabeth evidently lived in the Hueytown area as I have >> found >> them listed in the Mud Creek Baptist Church records on the Hueytown web >> site, active from the 1830's through about 1844. After that, they moved >> to >> Pontotoc Co., Mississippi. Their children were: Susan or Susanna, >> Benjamin, John H., my great grandfather, Joseph Abner Johnson (Joab), and >> William M. Johnson. Thanks for any help you can give me. >> >> Sue (Johnson) Howard P.S. Does anybody know anything about >> Aliese >> Johnson who posted to the Johnson Gen Forum site? Can't seem to get a >> response from her. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They all appear to be mystery people. This may be a clue: all of the Corpenings I saw in that time frame were in North Carolina. Only 75 records of any kind kick up for Paul Corpening, using birth dates of 1880-1900. Most are in North Carolina. Nothing in Alabama. I tried Bell Jones 1867-1880 -- nothing that even vaguely matches. I tried it as Bell Mayes trying to get a 1900 census that would include your 1896 ancestor. Nothing. I tried Thomas Mayes with the same dates -- nothing even reasonable and no wife named Bell. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

and obits online! I had no idea those were there -- click on "more databases" and just admire the wealth of stuff! Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

Someone mentioned old maps. It also has a list of inventors in Alabama. You can enter just a county name and get everyone from that county. That wasted ....er.....consumed a couple of hours of my time this morning. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

What specifically are you trying to find? Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

I was curious about Blossberg (the question) so I started a search. Nothing. I changed the spelling to Blossburg and hit a big long list. Google maps says it is on 5/78, the Adamsville Parkway, not far north of Adamsville, abo ut the same amount south of Graysville. It is small enough to not have its own census data. Mapquest.com says it is north northeast of Adamsville on Cherry Avenue, northeast of Graysville. Nearby cemeteries would include (according to the internet) _Adams Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68420) , Jefferson County, AL _Bagley Bend Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68613) , Jefferson County, AL _Bivens Chapel Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=68933) , Jefferson County, AL _Cardiff Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=69260) , Jefferson County, AL _Crumley Chapel Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=69688) , Jefferson County, AL _Glasgow Hill Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=70357) , Jefferson County, AL _Hodges Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=70798) , Jefferson County, AL _Linn Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71379) , Jefferson County, AL _Linns Crossing Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71380) , Jefferson County, AL _Maben Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71473) , Jefferson County, AL _Midway Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=71766) , Jefferson County, AL _Mount Olive Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=72059) , Jefferson County, AL _Saint Michaels Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=73468) , Jefferson County, AL _Shady Grove Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=73662) , Jefferson County, AL _Union Grove Cemetery_ (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=74322) , Jefferson County, AL The town has some infamy. According to the internet: James Thomas was lynched in Blossburg Alabama July 9 1897. On the other hand, Ernie Walker, a baseball player, was born in Blossburg on September 17, 1890. The 3rd Alabama Volunteer Infantry, an African American unit, had men from Blossburg. It was formed in 1898. _http://www.spanamwar.com/3rd%20Alabamahistory.html_ (http://www.spanamwar.com/3rd%20Alabamahistory.html) I found a map of towns involved in mining and so forth and it showed Blossburg in a different spot, north northeast of Adamsville and northeast of Graysville. Blossburg had some role in the mine problems in 1894, but I haven't been able to find details. Blossburg Land Company records from 1889-1918 are available through the Birmingham Public Library in their historical sections. If you go to _http://bpldb.bplonline.org/db/coalmine_ (http://bpldb.bplonline.org/db/coalmine) and choose Blossburg as the mine name, it lists deaths in the Blossburg mines. In a list of early black physicians, there is one from Blossburg named Huckabee. _http://www.anes.uab.edu/blackdoctors.htm_ (http://www.anes.uab.edu/blackdoctors.htm) _http://www.brumm.com/familytrees/names70.htm_ (http://www.brumm.com/familytrees/names70.htm) lists ancestors from Blossburg. There are also towns named Blossburg or Blossberg in Montana and Pennsylvania. There were at least two mines in Blossburg: the Blossburg mine and the Blossburg East mine. _http://www.my-usa-data.com/features/FID/146158/AL/Blossburg+East+Mine/_ (http://www.my-usa-data.com/features/FID/146158/AL/Blossburg+East+Mine/) has a picture of the Blossburg East Mine. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

I am trying to find information on this family: I would appreciate any help. Thanks Bobbie, North Carolina Re:Carrie Corpening widow of Paul Corpening according to her death certificate: b/July 16, 1895 Republic, Jefferson County, AL d/46yo - Jan 30, 1942, in Mabscott, Raleigh County,WVA Parents listed as: dad:Thomas Mayes b/ALA mom:Bell Jones b/ALA relative/Ed Mayes living in Mabscott, Raleigh County,WVA burial:Feb 2, 1942 cemetery: Minden, Fayette County, WVA funeral dir:R. L. Wright East Beckley, Raleigh County, WVA

The Civil War held absolutely no interest for me until I started researching my Alabama ancestors about 4 years ago; now my kids are asking if I've "found out anything" yet....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frieda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] (no subject) >I wasn't going to chime in. But here I am My great grand parents Robert > Washington and Mary Jane Moore (Maternal family was Franklin) Glenn left > Jefferson Co. just after the 1850 census. But I have really enjoyed the > stories that were told. Even though they were long after my family left. > I > went to my local Los Angeles, California site and was very disappointed. > I > could get pictures of old Los Angeles etc. But none of the stories. I > spent more than a couple of hours reading your stories and was very sorry > that I don't have back ground for my Glenn-Moore family. You are right > Alice about the stories. I am pushing 75 myself. My grandchildren really > don't know me or no about the wonderful town that my husband there > Grandfather and I were raised here in Sunny Southern California. I > definitely will add a lot to our story. > > I had the experience this last summer of meeting one of the newer > generation > (age 21) of GLENN'S. His grandfather had been a favorite of mine and I > started telling Stories about his grandfather Billy Glenn. Billy had died > in the early 60's. Kyle sat for hours listening to me and the other > cousins > gathered around and started talking about the family where they lived, how > they made a living, the Civil War, how many of the family were killed, > where > and WHY they move onward. Kyle then wisely said. If our history and > geography teachers would have us study American History like this maybe we > would like it and understand it more. In another words GENEALOGIST add > meat to your story!!!!!!!!!! > > Had to put my two cents in even though its been a long time since my > AMERSON-HALLMARK family left BLOUNT CO., Alabama in 1868 and GLENN-MOORE > family left JEFFERSON CO., Alabama in 1850 to meet in IUKA, TISHOMINGO > CO., > MISSISSIPPI. > > If any of your families went to Tishomingo Co., Mississippi I do have the > family book that was put out in 1997. Also I have the Alcorn Co., Ms > book > put out in 1998. > > Frieda Glenn Bennett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alice Campbell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Message from the list administrator > > >>I joined the ALJeffer list for the specific purpose of finding out about >> the community, the people who lived there, their occupations, all so >> that I could place my ancestors into their proper place in their >> community. >> >> For those 'nouveau genealogists' who only want a list of names, dates, >> parents, & offspring, perhaps this purpose does not serve them so well. >> But a real genealogist IS looking for just those little things that will >> tie his family and their neighbors together into a recognizable whole. >> >> So I, for one, encourage the sort of banter that we've been having and >> wish there were more of it. Every little bit of knowledge we have >> brings us that nearer whatever genealogical goal we have. >> >> For those who are just collecting data to fill the blanks and don't want >> to know about the people they are collecting, well there is the delete >> key to use. Lord knows, I use it on lots of surname queries for people >> that I have no info on. It should work both ways. I don't mind that at >> all, because I might have known the surname. You other guys ought not >> to mind deleting posts on local history that you aren't interested in >> reading. >> >> Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are >> historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our >> memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not >> be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last >> remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her >> parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, >> how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had >> a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a >> bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I >> anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip >> the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so >> glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will >> just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you >> know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be >> done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information >> you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them >> off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think >> you get the point. >> >> Alice >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >