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James Evans has 3 parcels. They are almost in the center of the county, on the far west side. Thomas Evans has 1 parcel. It is just about exactly in the center of the county. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

Good point, Carl. That's where I started. I found placing the plots on the modern map myself to be very painful. This map book is about $30, but if you have several early families, you'll see them jump right off the page, where a brother and 2 brothers-in-law are right next to each other with their parents one block away. It will also explain the different ways people got land. In other words, it's a great lazy tool for something that you could do yourself. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

>William R. Baker has several patents for land. Not being familiar with east >Jefferson County, I would describe the land as east of the center of the >county, but not on the border. > >Rae Williams >www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/Logon/Logon_Form.asp The above URL takes one to the Government Land Office {federal} where an very large amount of useful information can be found. Homesteading often is thought of as the only way to get a government land grant {patent}. But there were many other kinds of land patents as well, and the GLO site will help you with them. Carl, in Knoxville, Tennessee

No Rochesters listed. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

There are 4 Evans listed. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

There is one Richard H. Wait. Township 15S Range 4W, which I would describe as far north in the county, just a little bit west of center. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

I bought this one and one for Jackson County from Aprhax Publishing -- _www.arphax.com_ (http://www.arphax.com) . What I think is interesting is seeing who lived next door. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

William R. Baker has several patents for land. Not being familiar with east Jefferson County, I would describe the land as east of the center of the county, but not on the border. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

I would like to point out that I have not tiraded or commented in any way on the reminiscences. I have no memories of Birmingham beyond visiting there in September of this year. Not I. Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com

I resent your comment about tirades. I have only used this list for about a week now; I have been trying to find info on my family. How dare you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Stanford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Delilah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "deb & jim" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] New ALJEFFER List Administrator Needed > List, > > Well, you idiots have finally accomplished what you set out to do a few > days > ago. > > You have, by your incessant and insignificant remarks, driven away one of > the most > dedicated list masters on the entire Board. > > I hope that you, Delilah, find something else to occupy your time than > always finding fault with > someone who has ran this list very successfully for the last eight year. > You might even try getting a job ( Born Poor, Poor Now ). > > Up until now I have found the list to be a very good source or > information. > I grew up in > Mt. Pinson in the 40's and 50's, and have a lot of relatives in the > Pinson, > Bradford, and Leeds area. > > It really pains me to see this list going in this direction, and the loss > of > our great List Master > is the last straw . > > Good luck with your tirades, Delilah. jim and deb, Psycho, and Rae. You > will > be lucky to have > someone take over this List, or maybe we should just call it a Jefferson > County chat room. > > John in Florida > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy DeVore Williams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM > Subject: [ALJEFFER] New ALJEFFER List Administrator Needed > > >> I've decided to resign as list administrator for the ALJEFFER list. I >> have been considering this for a while because my personal obligations >> no longer allow me as much time as I once had for genealogy. Until now >> I have put this off because this list has functioned pretty well with >> only minimal guidance. That is no longer true. >> >> The problems currently on this list are my fault. As I have said >> before, this list consists of an exceptionally good group of folks, but >> this list has gotten very large and a bit ragged. People are >> unsubscribing left and right and my meager pleas have done nothing to >> correct the problems. This list needs and deserves a list administrator >> that can give it the time and effort that it deserves, and I am afraid >> that is no longer me. >> >> SO, if you are interested in taking over the ALJEFFER mailist please >> email me. It would be easiest for someone who already adminsters lists >> for rootsweb, or someone with a lot of mailist experience or at minimum >> someone who is a quick study in things online related or has the time or >> willingess to learn on their own. Unfortunately I don't really have the >> time to teach someone. Motovation however is the strongest factor of >> all and if you really want to do this, for the right reasons, then you >> probably can. >> >> Please email me if you are interested and please don't hold back >> thinking that this is just an emotional reaction on m,y part, it is >> not. I am going to give the list up, my mind is made up, but it would >> be better for the list if it had a new administrator first. >> >> Thanks guys. Its been a good eight and a half years since I started >> this list, and I love you to death, but I am looking forward to getting >> back to actually occasionally posting to lists again instead of >> adminstering them. >> Email me at [email protected] >> Nancy >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

List, Well, you idiots have finally accomplished what you set out to do a few days ago. You have, by your incessant and insignificant remarks, driven away one of the most dedicated list masters on the entire Board. I hope that you, Delilah, find something else to occupy your time than always finding fault with someone who has ran this list very successfully for the last eight year. You might even try getting a job ( Born Poor, Poor Now ). Up until now I have found the list to be a very good source or information. I grew up in Mt. Pinson in the 40's and 50's, and have a lot of relatives in the Pinson, Bradford, and Leeds area. It really pains me to see this list going in this direction, and the loss of our great List Master is the last straw . Good luck with your tirades, Delilah. jim and deb, Psycho, and Rae. You will be lucky to have someone take over this List, or maybe we should just call it a Jefferson County chat room. John in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy DeVore Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] New ALJEFFER List Administrator Needed > I've decided to resign as list administrator for the ALJEFFER list. I > have been considering this for a while because my personal obligations > no longer allow me as much time as I once had for genealogy. Until now > I have put this off because this list has functioned pretty well with > only minimal guidance. That is no longer true. > > The problems currently on this list are my fault. As I have said > before, this list consists of an exceptionally good group of folks, but > this list has gotten very large and a bit ragged. People are > unsubscribing left and right and my meager pleas have done nothing to > correct the problems. This list needs and deserves a list administrator > that can give it the time and effort that it deserves, and I am afraid > that is no longer me. > > SO, if you are interested in taking over the ALJEFFER mailist please > email me. It would be easiest for someone who already adminsters lists > for rootsweb, or someone with a lot of mailist experience or at minimum > someone who is a quick study in things online related or has the time or > willingess to learn on their own. Unfortunately I don't really have the > time to teach someone. Motovation however is the strongest factor of > all and if you really want to do this, for the right reasons, then you > probably can. > > Please email me if you are interested and please don't hold back > thinking that this is just an emotional reaction on m,y part, it is > not. I am going to give the list up, my mind is made up, but it would > be better for the list if it had a new administrator first. > > Thanks guys. Its been a good eight and a half years since I started > this list, and I love you to death, but I am looking forward to getting > back to actually occasionally posting to lists again instead of > adminstering them. > Email me at [email protected] > Nancy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are Scarcys and Jones in the Tishomingo and Alcorn Books but not in as a family. They may be intermingled with other families There are Jones on the 1876 Personal Assessment Roll in Tishomingo and there is a Irwin Searcy in the same book. There are Jones also in the Alcorn book but no Freeman Jones. There are also Searcy' s in the Alcorn book 5 different pages. There are 2 Searcys on the 1900 Census and Many Jones. I am in the middle of a project for my Grand daughters Water Polo Team. Send me your snail mail address and I will make copies of anything that looks good. Do you have other first names that may be a help. Hugs, Frieda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Hogan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Alabama to Tishimingo Co., MS > Frieda > > When you get a chance could you check on the SEARCY surname and any > descendants of Freeman JONES? Martha JONES married Aaron SEARCY and > migrated prior to 1850 to Monroe County, MS, later split into Tishimingo > and finally Alcorn I believe. Freeman is Martha's brother . . . he from > what I can tell died prior to 1860, wife's name was "Ellen" - had several > sons though. Martha and Freeman are siblings to one of my great > grandmothers. > > Thanks, > > Melissa > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:34:55 -0700 > From: "Frieda" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] (no subject) > To: <[email protected]> > <<snip>> > > Had to put my two cents in even though its been a long time since my > AMERSON-HALLMARK family left BLOUNT CO., Alabama in 1868 and GLENN-MOORE > family left JEFFERSON CO., Alabama in 1850 to meet in IUKA, TISHOMINGO > CO., > MISSISSIPPI. > > If any of your families went to Tishomingo Co., Mississippi I do have the > family book that was put out in 1997. Also I have the Alcorn Co., Ms > book > put out in 1998. > > Frieda Glenn Bennett > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anything on my John R Tyler? Thank you for your time! Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Homestead map > Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? > I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If > you > have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would > recommend > buying the book. > > Rae Williams > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

any EVANS', but I would like the book, write me off-list how I can get it ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Homestead map | Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? | I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If you | have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would recommend | buying the book. | | Rae Williams | www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

where do you buy it? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: [ALJEFFER] Homestead map | Did I tell y'all that I have the homestead map book for Jefferson County? | I'll be happy to check for family names and see if they are there. If you | have a lot of family from 1830-1860 in Jefferson County, I would recommend | buying the book. | | Rae Williams | www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

one day we won't have to eat or sleep, we can just sit here and chat, want some tea? ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline | AIN'T IT GREAT! | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:36 AM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] BPLOnline | | | > and obits online! I had no idea those were there -- click on "more | > databases" and just admire the wealth of stuff! | > | > Rae Williams | > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | > | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message | > | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

have you tried for the obits and one of the funeral homes is on-line, so if they handled it, it may have more info, most funeral homes have a paper on who pays for the funeral, the survivors, etc send me the info, off-list, maybe i can find it for you ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb & jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS | I'm waiting now for Oather Tyler's death cert; received two death certs, one | for John Marion Tyler d. 1913 in Jefferson Co and one for John Allen Tyler, | d. 1910 at Bryce Hospital; and would you believe neither have parent | info........! so, if anyone has info on these men or need a death cert for | one, i have it! Also have Martha Matilda Pearson's death cert from 1914 in | Walker Co.; her parents were Robert Pearson and Elizabeth P Bradshaw. | | Thanks! | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:42 PM | Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] TYLER/TIDWELL/MORRIS | | | > Have you tried pulling death certificates on your brick walls? They have | > a | > lot of good information and sometimes they are easier to get than birth | > certificates. | > | > Rae Williams | > www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com | > | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message | > | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

you are so right, and when you talk to them, have a tape recorder, I know I forget a lot of things so I record a lot of conversations when I am talking to whats left of my relatives, then I can go back and put it in some kind of order - I think the county lists are for the county and the area, it you just want a name, then get on just the name list, me I am on so many I just like to talk about anything - i will give my telephone number if you want it, but then I can call you for free so if you want to talk, send me your # off list ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [ALJEFFER] Message from the list administrator |I joined the ALJeffer list for the specific purpose of finding out about | the community, the people who lived there, their occupations, all so | that I could place my ancestors into their proper place in their | community. | | For those 'nouveau genealogists' who only want a list of names, dates, | parents, & offspring, perhaps this purpose does not serve them so well. | But a real genealogist IS looking for just those little things that will | tie his family and their neighbors together into a recognizable whole. | | So I, for one, encourage the sort of banter that we've been having and | wish there were more of it. Every little bit of knowledge we have | brings us that nearer whatever genealogical goal we have. | | For those who are just collecting data to fill the blanks and don't want | to know about the people they are collecting, well there is the delete | key to use. Lord knows, I use it on lots of surname queries for people | that I have no info on. It should work both ways. I don't mind that at | all, because I might have known the surname. You other guys ought not | to mind deleting posts on local history that you aren't interested in | reading. | | Keep up the nostalgia!!!! We are genealogists and because of it we are | historians too. Lots of us are old enough that we need to dump our | memories NOW onto the younger ones so the information in them will not | be lost. I spent 2 weeks last month in Birmingham with my last | remaining 84 year old aunt asking all the questions I had about her | parents (my grandparents), her siblings, her friends, where they lived, | how they lived, who certain people were, all that sort of thing. We had | a grand time, laughed a lot, got lots done, but I still left with a | bunch of questions unasked and left for the next visit, which I | anticipated would be Christmas. Unfortunately she fell & broke her hip | the day I left, and didn't survive the surgery. I am sitting here so | glad to have asked all those little things, and realizing that I will | just have to find the other information somewhere else. Whatever you | know - pass it along. When you die, leave a will stating what should be | done with your records and files, making sure the valuable information | you have collected is not lost again. Write things now, don't put them | off. Etc... Don't really want to turn this into a lecture, but I think | you get the point. | | Alice | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Can anyone identify this book to me? I missed it in all the excitement; Rae Williams www.grannyandpopacaldwell.com