The ftp access ... is not.. for the whole site. U can give access to the only page in question. Same as alhn give access to sites for voluteers Same as us gen web and rootsweb free pages. Also same as you rent your domain. You get a partial access to that site. As in the county or state site to alhn you give Joyce the ftp so if there is need of change on event of a death or a person simply quits the web she has access. This is not a untrusted controll where some one is going to manipulate a site. And if the site in question is abandoned why would it be a concern to Joyce having some access to that site? Us gen web state co ords have access to all county sites. Even hosted ones why should alhn be any differnet? Dan On Oct 29, 2013 10:09 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Dan, while I respectfully see your point, I also disagree at least as far > as > our pages go. We have our own domain, which houses our WY, CO and NE > pages, > a one-name study, all of our surname pages, and various other projects such > as my old photo collection. I do not allow ftp access to anyone but Don > and > I, probably because at one point years back pages were hacked, stolen > and/or > deleted. I am on a trusted server now. In the event that something should > happen to one of us, the other will continue. In the event, something > should happen to both or the one remaining cannot continue, passwords etc > are available to our children who will inherit our website. > > Everyone should consider that your work in your websites is actually part > of > your estate. You should designate in your will or a directive, notarized, > who is to receive ownership as well as access. Perhaps it wouldn't matter > on smaller sites, such as a one county site. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:43 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we > volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The > website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If > some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say > if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the email > and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer in > the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular > page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to > have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or > passed away or something. > I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be > required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that > way. > I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those pages > if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain > and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. > I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the > issue. > Dan > > On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > Mary, > > > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > > be > > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > > this. > > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > > with > > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > > 'guarantee' > > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > > the > > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is > bad > > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > > to > > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > > address is asking for problems. > > > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > > been > > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > > own domain. > > > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > > several Nebraska counties > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well, Dan, it was way back when I was a state and county coordinator on Genweb when the state coordinator got into my site and ruined it out of vindictiveness (I wasn't the only one). That is when I went independent and am affiliated with ALHB and AHGP. And for my pages, that is the way it will remain. We have worked hard to set up continuity in our estate which includes this domain and our work. It is not that I have a problem with Joyce or this project, I am simply protecting our work. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:30 PM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback The ftp access ... is not.. for the whole site. U can give access to the only page in question. Same as alhn give access to sites for voluteers Same as us gen web and rootsweb free pages. Also same as you rent your domain. You get a partial access to that site. As in the county or state site to alhn you give Joyce the ftp so if there is need of change on event of a death or a person simply quits the web she has access. This is not a untrusted controll where some one is going to manipulate a site. And if the site in question is abandoned why would it be a concern to Joyce having some access to that site? Us gen web state co ords have access to all county sites. Even hosted ones why should alhn be any differnet? Dan On Oct 29, 2013 10:09 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Dan, while I respectfully see your point, I also disagree at least as far > as > our pages go. We have our own domain, which houses our WY, CO and NE > pages, > a one-name study, all of our surname pages, and various other projects > such > as my old photo collection. I do not allow ftp access to anyone but Don > and > I, probably because at one point years back pages were hacked, stolen > and/or > deleted. I am on a trusted server now. In the event that something > should > happen to one of us, the other will continue. In the event, something > should happen to both or the one remaining cannot continue, passwords etc > are available to our children who will inherit our website. > > Everyone should consider that your work in your websites is actually part > of > your estate. You should designate in your will or a directive, notarized, > who is to receive ownership as well as access. Perhaps it wouldn't matter > on smaller sites, such as a one county site. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:43 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we > volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The > website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If > some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say > if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the > email > and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer > in > the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular > page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to > have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or > passed away or something. > I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be > required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that > way. > I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those > pages > if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain > and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. > I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the > issue. > Dan > > On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > Mary, > > > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > > be > > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > > this. > > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > > with > > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that > > is > > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people > > in > > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > > 'guarantee' > > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > > the > > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is > bad > > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, > > but > > to > > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > > address is asking for problems. > > > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > > been > > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the > > URL > > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have > > our > > own domain. > > > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > > several Nebraska counties > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message