We have big plans for our Virtual Cemetery website... Voices over stones, where descendants or historians add an audio or video story about those interred. We plan to link documents from our Ancient Records website to those interred. Where available we will add photos of those interred. Find a grave is hit and miss, not complete cemeteries. We always have permission to photograph the stones in cemeteries that are taken care of or commercial. Do those that do Find A Grave always request permission. We photograph everything in order and post it in order. It is not in alphabetical order. There are several searches on the site, one includes the text on graves found in the 1960s by the DAR that no longer exist. We photograph rocks, piles of bricks, whats left of wooden markers... where possible we even photograph depressions. We work with State Archeologists with GPR on some of our abandoned historic cemeteries. We are way more than Find A Grave ever imagined. You can use our site to take a tour of the actual cemetery with your smart phone or tablet. It can lead you to a specific grave. It has been used to replace recovered stolen stones back to where they came from. Find A Grave is supported by ads, our site is supported by me, no ads. I don't mind sharing with them, but there must be a link from each photo to our more in depth website. That is just my Humble Opinion. I would never ever just put our hard work on Find A Grave. Are you saying that since there is a USGenWeb, an Ancestry.com, a FamilySearch.org and much more, that ALHN should put everything there? Everything I do is a step above what the existing sites provide and it comes from a place in my heart of giving and sharing not the make a buck mentality of some of the more commercial sites, anything with ads, or anything that is "for sale". I'll continue doing what I do... Just to show you the power of our websites, I was working on checking a transcription awhile back and there was a name that I wasn't sure of. I Googled it and the first result was a stone from our website with the correct name on it. In a way I had answered my own question. I am supported with Volunteers by the local Historical Commission and the local DAR. We are going to grow, not prosper, unless you count the priceless documenting of everything that exists in our local cemeteries. I'm sure Ancestry would take anything you want to give them as would Find A Grave. Is that where we are going, or are we here to do better and to do it for FREE? I do what I do because I care, not because it is easy. Jim Jim Powell Jr Wizard of AR http://www.wizardofar.org/ http://www.facebook.com/wizardofar Ancient Records Coordinator Alachua County Clerk of Court http://www.alachuaclerk.org/archive/ http://www.facebook.com/ACARVol On 11/15/2013 6:01 AM, Cyndy Cox wrote: > I do not add records that are easily available on "big sites" to my web > pages. I do have some cemeteries because my pictures are larger and you > can download them to your computer if you want one. > > Also, I do more local history than genealogy. I photograph schools, > churches and neighborhoods. I like to give people an opportunity to see > what it was like to live in a particular area. > > Cyndy > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM, <SherryeW@aol.com> wrote: > >> This is one of the reasons I feel that ALHN is not as active anymore. It >> is hard to get great data to put on a small website that makes >> genealogists >> want to use it again and again. Census is already done by several other >> sites, and there are a few large cemetery websites. LDS has vital records >> online. I feel that putting up cemetery info on the ALHN isn't helpful to >> genealogists anymore. If you want to get it out to the public, it needs >> to go >> on to Find-A-Grave (or similar sites). It would be wonderful, Jim, if you >> would add your 30 cemeteries to that website. I think you will find that a >> lot of your info is already on Find-A-Grave and would be duplicated on >> your ALHN webpage. >> Most genealogists want to shop for their info in as few places as >> possible, and don't want to have to visit many little sites like they used >> to. I >> know I don't. If ALHN concentrated on unpublished and hard to find data >> on >> their websites it might help. But I feel that cemetery info should be >> added to one large free database for all to use. There could be a link to >> Find-A-Grave on the ALHN websites with a list of which cemeteries that >> ALHN >> website has added. And each gravesite could show the submitters name and >> ALHN >> affiliation. >> >> Just my humble opinion :) >> >> Sherrye >> >> >> In a message dated 11/14/2013 1:22:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> jpowelljr@gru.net writes: >> >> Lastly, like I said there is so much here to do, I have about 30 >> cemeteries that we have photographed that I need to edit, build databases >> for and deploy for Volunteers to add the info from the stones. We are >> still fighting to get something into the legislature that separates >> Ancient Records from Modern day Court Files. Our Local Representative is >> into history and says he supports us, but can he pull off something in >> Tallahassee. We will see. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Every one to thier own. I do like what Jim posted. It is what my dream was too until too many things blocked my efforts. Each person has thier own personal views and efforts. It cant be expected to clone Jim and not all people will clone Cindy and not all volunteers are going to stick around being told how to make a web site if alhn decides to request certain templates or guidlines in their energitic thoughts of being known . Get to strict or to pushy people will shy off and it will be very hard to convience folks to get involved. I see power of an argument in the works and to best have folks on the roster is give those who are new a sample page with logos in place and let them grow or prune thier own expectations. I have not seen Jims site yet. But find a grave is add supported. Its also rumored ancestry took it over. Adds do help. Some folks are just plain poor. Like me lol. I liked Cindy blog I like simple. But also I like complex. Being that there is time and my brain can keep up. Joyce is a very smart cookie. I am sure. Talking to her about your ideas and web pages folks will get some terrific ideas back. But make no misstake... no one is trying to clone the big sites. How ever. Holding back on what a big site might have could be in error because not all big sites are search engine oriented. Thats where the little folks like us come in. There are many ways you can get your pages known. Meta and headers are a couple. Transcribing and finding other transcribers from other sites and invite them to be a part of your site. Links to relitive contents of your site to other places. Cindys list was mentioned. How do you think she got known? Just by making her index. I THINK Jims post is right on target to his adventure. Granted. Not all of us may be that dedicated or in understanding his ways. But his ideas are what its all about. The best information that can be found is the best way. If you see a dent in the ground. Dont walk on by. List it. Let me explain one of my experiences... ps i dont have a spell checker on the phone. But it takes less power here off grid ... any how. In my early days. We were taking pictures ... before find a grave ... in the bueana vista (sp) cemetery in Independence Oregon area. I heard a rumor a cousin was there. I found lots of other names Prather being one. Did not find a Matney. Until we went to the museum and my wife found a listing. Then later I was wondering how a Matney got there. Why not in the cemetery of Hill top with other Matneys. So... I stopped and did some research.i foumd out he had been a part of the Prather people who worked in the woods... well any how.. more to that but there are reasons Jim is trying to explain. So some one who wants a website.. and to run it your way. Read and learn about what Jim said. Then. After that. Go make your site. Keeping Jim in your thoughts and questions. Is my work as good as it can be. Or am I going to lead a long hard brick wall search to another dead end. That indent in the cemetery was my missing Matney. Still has no marker and I am most likly the only Matney living now that knows where he is lost to. In the many years of my research.. I learned something. .... if you dont talk to the elders just because they are old.. history is lost. If you hold onto facts and the older ones who would like to know... they die... and go to the big place never knowing were thier people went. So... Alhn is a history net work.. you all the webbing. Either connect the strands or give some one who will a chance to be a part of you. I read films till I was dizzy. I gave up for six years while I spent time making this place. Its a pioneer of times. It was to find out how hard it would be for a person on a wagon train to stop in the wild. And create a home.. no place to work or earn money and no stores. It all had to be salvage or free some how. Or traded or bartered . Later yard sales came to play. I was 63 when we bought this 40 acres. It was just brush. Sage and grease wood. No people very close. Most of the places people stopped to settle are abandoned. The weather is not the best and the dust and winds can drive the best away. Its not a convienent place. But its quiet. Not many people my age would even want to try what I did. Not many will want to try what Jim did. But for those who do want to help be sure what you represent is usefull. When u see that indent. See about why its there who it was and if any thing at least put it out there. Some one just might stop and fill you in. Looks like folks could listen to Jim and learn more than we do know. I have many dents in my website and many years of catching up. Too many people passed away while I was busy. But I can tell you now. Just how hard it was to make a root cellar dont think that diging a 8-12 foot hole by hand is easy. By four plus feet deep. If you want to know. Get a good shouvle and lots of 4-4 and 2-8s and some roofing tin and see. Then you will have a long story about your dent in the ground. Ok next. Here on my place. Speaking of dents. Is a out house hole and where a cabin once was. The army blew them up in 1945. I am going to see about who was there and if possible a restroation is possible. Thanks Jim. Very inspiring. Dan On Nov 15, 2013 4:45 AM, "Jim Powell" <jpowelljr@gru.net> wrote: > We have big plans for our Virtual Cemetery website... Voices over > stones, where descendants or historians add an audio or video story > about those interred. We plan to link documents from our Ancient > Records website to those interred. Where available we will add photos > of those interred. Find a grave is hit and miss, not complete > cemeteries. We always have permission to photograph the stones in > cemeteries that are taken care of or commercial. Do those that do Find > A Grave always request permission. We photograph everything in order > and post it in order. It is not in alphabetical order. There are > several searches on the site, one includes the text on graves found in > the 1960s by the DAR that no longer exist. We photograph rocks, piles of > bricks, whats left of wooden markers... where possible we even > photograph depressions. We work with State Archeologists with GPR on > some of our abandoned historic cemeteries. We are way more than Find A > Grave ever imagined. You can use our site to take a tour of the actual > cemetery with your smart phone or tablet. It can lead you to a specific > grave. It has been used to replace recovered stolen stones back to > where they came from. Find A Grave is supported by ads, our site is > supported by me, no ads. I don't mind sharing with them, but there must > be a link from each photo to our more in depth website. That is just my > Humble Opinion. I would never ever just put our hard work on Find A > Grave. Are you saying that since there is a USGenWeb, an Ancestry.com, > a FamilySearch.org and much more, that ALHN should put everything > there? Everything I do is a step above what the existing sites provide > and it comes from a place in my heart of giving and sharing not the make > a buck mentality of some of the more commercial sites, anything with > ads, or anything that is "for sale". I'll continue doing what I do... > Just to show you the power of our websites, I was working on checking a > transcription awhile back and there was a name that I wasn't sure of. I > Googled it and the first result was a stone from our website with the > correct name on it. In a way I had answered my own question. I am > supported with Volunteers by the local Historical Commission and the > local DAR. We are going to grow, not prosper, unless you count the > priceless documenting of everything that exists in our local cemeteries. > I'm sure Ancestry would take anything you want to give them as would > Find A Grave. Is that where we are going, or are we here to do better > and to do it for FREE? > I do what I do because I care, not because it is easy. > > Jim > Jim Powell Jr > Wizard of AR > http://www.wizardofar.org/ > http://www.facebook.com/wizardofar > Ancient Records Coordinator > Alachua County Clerk of Court > http://www.alachuaclerk.org/archive/ > http://www.facebook.com/ACARVol > > On 11/15/2013 6:01 AM, Cyndy Cox wrote: > > I do not add records that are easily available on "big sites" to my web > > pages. I do have some cemeteries because my pictures are larger and you > > can download them to your computer if you want one. > > > > Also, I do more local history than genealogy. I photograph schools, > > churches and neighborhoods. I like to give people an opportunity to see > > what it was like to live in a particular area. > > > > Cyndy > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM, <SherryeW@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> This is one of the reasons I feel that ALHN is not as active anymore. > It > >> is hard to get great data to put on a small website that makes > >> genealogists > >> want to use it again and again. Census is already done by several > other > >> sites, and there are a few large cemetery websites. LDS has vital > records > >> online. I feel that putting up cemetery info on the ALHN isn't helpful > to > >> genealogists anymore. If you want to get it out to the public, it > needs > >> to go > >> on to Find-A-Grave (or similar sites). It would be wonderful, Jim, if > you > >> would add your 30 cemeteries to that website. I think you will find > that a > >> lot of your info is already on Find-A-Grave and would be duplicated on > >> your ALHN webpage. > >> Most genealogists want to shop for their info in as few places as > >> possible, and don't want to have to visit many little sites like they > used > >> to. I > >> know I don't. If ALHN concentrated on unpublished and hard to find > data > >> on > >> their websites it might help. But I feel that cemetery info should be > >> added to one large free database for all to use. There could be a > link to > >> Find-A-Grave on the ALHN websites with a list of which cemeteries that > >> ALHN > >> website has added. And each gravesite could show the submitters name > and > >> ALHN > >> affiliation. > >> > >> Just my humble opinion :) > >> > >> Sherrye > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 11/14/2013 1:22:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> jpowelljr@gru.net writes: > >> > >> Lastly, like I said there is so much here to do, I have about 30 > >> cemeteries that we have photographed that I need to edit, build > databases > >> for and deploy for Volunteers to add the info from the stones. We are > >> still fighting to get something into the legislature that separates > >> Ancient Records from Modern day Court Files. Our Local Representative > is > >> into history and says he supports us, but can he pull off something in > >> Tallahassee. We will see. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >