As per scaning. You can do better with a digital camera set on medium. For those who want to enlarge a one inch square photo.... use the digital. Set on med or high res macro if you have it. Your one inch photo is now enlarged at full res. Some pratice and lighting and focus are learning things as u go per camera. I use my cell phone when I got my firdt digital many years ago I used it to copy pictures. This works. Its far faster and better resolution than any scanner. Dan On Nov 15, 2013 7:41 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > I am going to throw in my two cents on this one. I quit worrying about > transcribing census a while back when a researcher reminded me that > transcribers can make mistakes and that scans of the original documents > were > more valuable in proving a case. So on that point I agree with Sherry. > > Joyce has a great point about the wills etc in the courthouses. One of the > problems has always been the time involved to sit in their sometimes dusty > archives and write out a transcription. There are new hand held scanning > wands that will scan an entire page and remotely transmit to your laptop. > I > want one of those. When I get one, I will be testing it out in the Midland > County courthouse, and I am not even a coordinator for Midland County > > I do not know how the DAR is now, but when I joined about 12 or 13 years > ago, each step had to be documented -- transcriptions of census were not > acceptable, transcriptions of anything were not acceptable. > > Have a great weekend everyone! > > Mary > WY CO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:02 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > Sherry, I agree with your statements to a point but here is my > disagreement. I research in a region of counties....Hamilton, Bradley, > Meigs, Knox, McMinn, Polk, Monroe, Blount, Roane in TN and have branched > out into western North Carolina Counties of Haywood, Graham, Cherokee, > Macon > & Clay. In every last one of these counties is a myriad of information > that > isn't online and won't be online for many years to come. For instance, one > of the best friends any researcher has is lower court records...that court > where estate and other civil matters are heard....like wills and estates, > property disputes, etc. These are the records that will blow the lid off > many family searches that are at that so-called brick wall. Then there's > the TONS of other court records like circuit and criminal. And as time > goes > on those records will become more valuable for researchers of the future. > Deeds - abstracted deeds can also help establish family relationships. In > 1830, ie, if grandpa John, at 20 years, lived near or next door to the > Smith's and Grandpa John married Jane Smith at the age of 22 then you can > be > 90% sure that the Jane Smith grandpa John married was that dtr of the next > door neighbor. This situation is a very good clue. So putting things like > court indices, deed abstracts or indices and all this type data on a local > or state web site can be extremely helpful. > > My point is that there is way too much data still lying around in archives, > court house basements, libraries etc that isn't online. We just have to be > creative enough to figure out how we, as volunteers can get that data and > get it online. One thing Sharon and I did was use volunteers. There are > those out there who have time to transcribe but don't wish to create web > sites. We had one volunteer who printed microfilmed copies of interest, > many concerning death notices. He went to the libraries and went thru > quite > a few microfilmed newspapers. As a result we had volunteers who have > indexed the names, close to 1500, and put those names online. Once someone > sees a name they want they can contact the Monroe Co. Archives for a copy > of > the article. We did the same with the circuit court records. We learned > what the movements were within the Chancery Court and posted that > information online so people would know where to look for the records they > might want. > > There's many, many ways we can offer more and new information on our web > sites. Sometimes it may be just a matter of making a phone call to the > county you're doing and establishing a relationship or two. Learning > what's > available and creating ways to work with who and what's 'out there'. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > Join us in celebrating our 20th year! > www.alhn.org > -----Original Message----- > From: SherryeW@aol.com > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:04 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > This is one of the reasons I feel that ALHN is not as active anymore. It > is hard to get great data to put on a small website that makes > genealogists > want to use it again and again. Census is already done by several other > sites, and there are a few large cemetery websites. LDS has vital records > online. I feel that putting up cemetery info on the ALHN isn't helpful to > genealogists anymore. If you want to get it out to the public, it needs > to > go > on to Find-A-Grave (or similar sites). It would be wonderful, Jim, if you > would add your 30 cemeteries to that website. I think you will find that a > lot of your info is already on Find-A-Grave and would be duplicated on > your ALHN webpage. > Most genealogists want to shop for their info in as few places as > possible, and don't want to have to visit many little sites like they used > to. I > know I don't. If ALHN concentrated on unpublished and hard to find data > on > their websites it might help. But I feel that cemetery info should be > added to one large free database for all to use. There could be a link to > Find-A-Grave on the ALHN websites with a list of which cemeteries that > ALHN > website has added. And each gravesite could show the submitters name and > ALHN > affiliation. > > Just my humble opinion :) > > Sherrye > > > In a message dated 11/14/2013 1:22:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jpowelljr@gru.net writes: > > Lastly, like I said there is so much here to do, I have about 30 > cemeteries that we have photographed that I need to edit, build databases > for and deploy for Volunteers to add the info from the stones. We are > still fighting to get something into the legislature that separates > Ancient Records from Modern day Court Files. Our Local Representative is > into history and says he supports us, but can he pull off something in > Tallahassee. We will see. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Now Dan, I have had my sights set on the newest version of the wand scanner! Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:55 AM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN As per scaning. You can do better with a digital camera set on medium. For those who want to enlarge a one inch square photo.... use the digital. Set on med or high res macro if you have it. Your one inch photo is now enlarged at full res. Some pratice and lighting and focus are learning things as u go per camera. I use my cell phone when I got my firdt digital many years ago I used it to copy pictures. This works. Its far faster and better resolution than any scanner. Dan On Nov 15, 2013 7:41 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > I am going to throw in my two cents on this one. I quit worrying about > transcribing census a while back when a researcher reminded me that > transcribers can make mistakes and that scans of the original documents > were > more valuable in proving a case. So on that point I agree with Sherry. > > Joyce has a great point about the wills etc in the courthouses. One of > the > problems has always been the time involved to sit in their sometimes dusty > archives and write out a transcription. There are new hand held scanning > wands that will scan an entire page and remotely transmit to your laptop. > I > want one of those. When I get one, I will be testing it out in the > Midland > County courthouse, and I am not even a coordinator for Midland County > > I do not know how the DAR is now, but when I joined about 12 or 13 years > ago, each step had to be documented -- transcriptions of census were not > acceptable, transcriptions of anything were not acceptable. > > Have a great weekend everyone! > > Mary > WY CO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:02 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > Sherry, I agree with your statements to a point but here is my > disagreement. I research in a region of counties....Hamilton, Bradley, > Meigs, Knox, McMinn, Polk, Monroe, Blount, Roane in TN and have branched > out into western North Carolina Counties of Haywood, Graham, Cherokee, > Macon > & Clay. In every last one of these counties is a myriad of information > that > isn't online and won't be online for many years to come. For instance, > one > of the best friends any researcher has is lower court records...that court > where estate and other civil matters are heard....like wills and estates, > property disputes, etc. These are the records that will blow the lid off > many family searches that are at that so-called brick wall. Then there's > the TONS of other court records like circuit and criminal. And as time > goes > on those records will become more valuable for researchers of the future. > Deeds - abstracted deeds can also help establish family relationships. In > 1830, ie, if grandpa John, at 20 years, lived near or next door to the > Smith's and Grandpa John married Jane Smith at the age of 22 then you can > be > 90% sure that the Jane Smith grandpa John married was that dtr of the next > door neighbor. This situation is a very good clue. So putting things > like > court indices, deed abstracts or indices and all this type data on a local > or state web site can be extremely helpful. > > My point is that there is way too much data still lying around in > archives, > court house basements, libraries etc that isn't online. We just have to > be > creative enough to figure out how we, as volunteers can get that data and > get it online. One thing Sharon and I did was use volunteers. There are > those out there who have time to transcribe but don't wish to create web > sites. We had one volunteer who printed microfilmed copies of interest, > many concerning death notices. He went to the libraries and went thru > quite > a few microfilmed newspapers. As a result we had volunteers who have > indexed the names, close to 1500, and put those names online. Once > someone > sees a name they want they can contact the Monroe Co. Archives for a copy > of > the article. We did the same with the circuit court records. We learned > what the movements were within the Chancery Court and posted that > information online so people would know where to look for the records they > might want. > > There's many, many ways we can offer more and new information on our web > sites. Sometimes it may be just a matter of making a phone call to the > county you're doing and establishing a relationship or two. Learning > what's > available and creating ways to work with who and what's 'out there'. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > Join us in celebrating our 20th year! > www.alhn.org > -----Original Message----- > From: SherryeW@aol.com > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:04 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > This is one of the reasons I feel that ALHN is not as active anymore. It > is hard to get great data to put on a small website that makes > genealogists > want to use it again and again. Census is already done by several other > sites, and there are a few large cemetery websites. LDS has vital records > online. I feel that putting up cemetery info on the ALHN isn't helpful to > genealogists anymore. If you want to get it out to the public, it needs > to > go > on to Find-A-Grave (or similar sites). It would be wonderful, Jim, if > you > would add your 30 cemeteries to that website. I think you will find that > a > lot of your info is already on Find-A-Grave and would be duplicated on > your ALHN webpage. > Most genealogists want to shop for their info in as few places as > possible, and don't want to have to visit many little sites like they used > to. I > know I don't. If ALHN concentrated on unpublished and hard to find data > on > their websites it might help. But I feel that cemetery info should be > added to one large free database for all to use. There could be a link > to > Find-A-Grave on the ALHN websites with a list of which cemeteries that > ALHN > website has added. And each gravesite could show the submitters name and > ALHN > affiliation. > > Just my humble opinion :) > > Sherrye > > > In a message dated 11/14/2013 1:22:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jpowelljr@gru.net writes: > > Lastly, like I said there is so much here to do, I have about 30 > cemeteries that we have photographed that I need to edit, build databases > for and deploy for Volunteers to add the info from the stones. We are > still fighting to get something into the legislature that separates > Ancient Records from Modern day Court Files. Our Local Representative is > into history and says he supports us, but can he pull off something in > Tallahassee. We will see. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Save your money and get a good camera. Scanners are too much work to low in res and u cant control all aspects. I got a hand scanner when the very first one came out. Man was that slow. And if you snaged a staple or wiggled it was all fuzzy. Long time ago. I have not seen the newest ones. But I use my fuji 7 mega pixle... then just slip the sd card into my laptop and it copies automatically and then I use one of my photo prgs to put them in folders. Whats the brand. I want to see more of this wanna have for christmas thingy ;) Dan On Nov 15, 2013 7:58 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Now Dan, I have had my sights set on the newest version of the wand > scanner! > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:55 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > As per scaning. You can do better with a digital camera set on medium. > For those who want to enlarge a one inch square photo.... use the digital. > Set on med or high res macro if you have it. Your one inch photo is now > enlarged at full res. Some pratice and lighting and focus are learning > things as u go per camera. I use my cell phone when I got my firdt digital > many years ago I used it to copy pictures. This works. Its far faster and > better resolution than any scanner. > Dan > On Nov 15, 2013 7:41 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > > > I am going to throw in my two cents on this one. I quit worrying about > > transcribing census a while back when a researcher reminded me that > > transcribers can make mistakes and that scans of the original documents > > were > > more valuable in proving a case. So on that point I agree with Sherry. > > > > Joyce has a great point about the wills etc in the courthouses. One of > > the > > problems has always been the time involved to sit in their sometimes > dusty > > archives and write out a transcription. There are new hand held scanning > > wands that will scan an entire page and remotely transmit to your laptop. > > I > > want one of those. When I get one, I will be testing it out in the > > Midland > > County courthouse, and I am not even a coordinator for Midland County > > > > I do not know how the DAR is now, but when I joined about 12 or 13 years > > ago, each step had to be documented -- transcriptions of census were not > > acceptable, transcriptions of anything were not acceptable. > > > > Have a great weekend everyone! > > > > Mary > > WY CO > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joyce Gaston Reece > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:02 AM > > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > > > Sherry, I agree with your statements to a point but here is my > > disagreement. I research in a region of counties....Hamilton, Bradley, > > Meigs, Knox, McMinn, Polk, Monroe, Blount, Roane in TN and have branched > > out into western North Carolina Counties of Haywood, Graham, Cherokee, > > Macon > > & Clay. In every last one of these counties is a myriad of information > > that > > isn't online and won't be online for many years to come. For instance, > > one > > of the best friends any researcher has is lower court records...that > court > > where estate and other civil matters are heard....like wills and estates, > > property disputes, etc. These are the records that will blow the lid off > > many family searches that are at that so-called brick wall. Then > there's > > the TONS of other court records like circuit and criminal. And as time > > goes > > on those records will become more valuable for researchers of the future. > > Deeds - abstracted deeds can also help establish family relationships. > In > > 1830, ie, if grandpa John, at 20 years, lived near or next door to the > > Smith's and Grandpa John married Jane Smith at the age of 22 then you can > > be > > 90% sure that the Jane Smith grandpa John married was that dtr of the > next > > door neighbor. This situation is a very good clue. So putting things > > like > > court indices, deed abstracts or indices and all this type data on a > local > > or state web site can be extremely helpful. > > > > My point is that there is way too much data still lying around in > > archives, > > court house basements, libraries etc that isn't online. We just have to > > be > > creative enough to figure out how we, as volunteers can get that data and > > get it online. One thing Sharon and I did was use volunteers. There are > > those out there who have time to transcribe but don't wish to create web > > sites. We had one volunteer who printed microfilmed copies of interest, > > many concerning death notices. He went to the libraries and went thru > > quite > > a few microfilmed newspapers. As a result we had volunteers who have > > indexed the names, close to 1500, and put those names online. Once > > someone > > sees a name they want they can contact the Monroe Co. Archives for a copy > > of > > the article. We did the same with the circuit court records. We learned > > what the movements were within the Chancery Court and posted that > > information online so people would know where to look for the records > they > > might want. > > > > There's many, many ways we can offer more and new information on our web > > sites. Sometimes it may be just a matter of making a phone call to the > > county you're doing and establishing a relationship or two. Learning > > what's > > available and creating ways to work with who and what's 'out there'. > > > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > > American Local History Network > > Join us in celebrating our 20th year! > > www.alhn.org > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SherryeW@aol.com > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:04 AM > > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] cemetery info on ALHN > > > > This is one of the reasons I feel that ALHN is not as active anymore. > It > > is hard to get great data to put on a small website that makes > > genealogists > > want to use it again and again. Census is already done by several other > > sites, and there are a few large cemetery websites. LDS has vital > records > > online. I feel that putting up cemetery info on the ALHN isn't helpful > to > > genealogists anymore. If you want to get it out to the public, it needs > > to > > go > > on to Find-A-Grave (or similar sites). It would be wonderful, Jim, if > > you > > would add your 30 cemeteries to that website. I think you will find that > > a > > lot of your info is already on Find-A-Grave and would be duplicated on > > your ALHN webpage. > > Most genealogists want to shop for their info in as few places as > > possible, and don't want to have to visit many little sites like they > used > > to. I > > know I don't. If ALHN concentrated on unpublished and hard to find data > > on > > their websites it might help. But I feel that cemetery info should be > > added to one large free database for all to use. There could be a link > > to > > Find-A-Grave on the ALHN websites with a list of which cemeteries that > > ALHN > > website has added. And each gravesite could show the submitters name > and > > ALHN > > affiliation. > > > > Just my humble opinion :) > > > > Sherrye > > > > > > In a message dated 11/14/2013 1:22:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > jpowelljr@gru.net writes: > > > > Lastly, like I said there is so much here to do, I have about 30 > > cemeteries that we have photographed that I need to edit, build > databases > > for and deploy for Volunteers to add the info from the stones. We are > > still fighting to get something into the legislature that separates > > Ancient Records from Modern day Court Files. Our Local Representative > is > > into history and says he supports us, but can he pull off something in > > Tallahassee. We will see. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >