For Tennessee counties and surrounding areas...this link is to an online version of Annals of Tennessee. I believe the book is also on Google Books. May be something you’d want to link to from your pages. http://www.roanetnhistory.org/ramseysannalscontents.html www.roanetnheritage.com Joyce Gaston Reece,President American Local History Network www.alhn.org

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Tennessee,_Putnam_County_Records_%28F amilySearch_Historical_Records%29 FamilySearch has posted some Putnam County records at the link above. Per their website, "This collection includes records from the circuit and chancery courts of Putnam County. The records include disputed property and estates, wills, divorces and records of other civil proceedings." Enjoy! Make it a Great Genealogy Day! Darlene Anderson, Vice-President American Local History Network http://www.alhn.org/ State Coordinator for South Carolina-ALHN And Kentucky-ALHN!

My apologies for making any one not want to chat about this topic. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> To: <alhn-general@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > Maybe there is a reason why I don't get involved in these on line > discussions on the lists much. > > Mary

Dan, if you will note from my letters I said 'our' pages. My husband and I do the project together. And our estate is set up to cover those contingencies, as I said in my letters more than once. And yes I know there are abandoned pages out there by people who got involved, then for one reason or another lost interest or they passed. It is very frustrating for a state or national coordinator to have this happen. I have had it happen with county coordinators. I simply do not link to them. If the contact information on the page is no longer valid, and it is not linked to the state page, it will eventually die of attrition or get pushed aside. And yes, I will freely admit I am set in my ways which have developed after many years of experience. If Joyce and/or the Board has a problem with how we run our pages, they can contact me. And they know it. They haven't in nearly 15 years. You seem to be only one who has a problem with how we do it. Maybe there is a reason why I don't get involved in these on line discussions on the lists much. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:00 PM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback Sounds like your set in your ways. I spose you will work something out with Joyce. So many people leave or die and then those pages just sit there. I trust your not leaving this life any time soon. At least that my plans too lol;) Its just a fail safe so the people can take care of their organization. I already know a few pages out there with alhn logos and not any way to remove them. No contact. If you dont feel safe about this, then maybe a family member you trust will be able to be a second contact if your not available. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> To: <alhn-general@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > Well, Dan, it was way back when I was a state and county coordinator on > Genweb when the state coordinator got into my site and ruined it out of > vindictiveness (I wasn't the only one). That is when I went independent > and ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, Dan, it was way back when I was a state and county coordinator on Genweb when the state coordinator got into my site and ruined it out of vindictiveness (I wasn't the only one). That is when I went independent and am affiliated with ALHB and AHGP. And for my pages, that is the way it will remain. We have worked hard to set up continuity in our estate which includes this domain and our work. It is not that I have a problem with Joyce or this project, I am simply protecting our work. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:30 PM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback The ftp access ... is not.. for the whole site. U can give access to the only page in question. Same as alhn give access to sites for voluteers Same as us gen web and rootsweb free pages. Also same as you rent your domain. You get a partial access to that site. As in the county or state site to alhn you give Joyce the ftp so if there is need of change on event of a death or a person simply quits the web she has access. This is not a untrusted controll where some one is going to manipulate a site. And if the site in question is abandoned why would it be a concern to Joyce having some access to that site? Us gen web state co ords have access to all county sites. Even hosted ones why should alhn be any differnet? Dan On Oct 29, 2013 10:09 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Dan, while I respectfully see your point, I also disagree at least as far > as > our pages go. We have our own domain, which houses our WY, CO and NE > pages, > a one-name study, all of our surname pages, and various other projects > such > as my old photo collection. I do not allow ftp access to anyone but Don > and > I, probably because at one point years back pages were hacked, stolen > and/or > deleted. I am on a trusted server now. In the event that something > should > happen to one of us, the other will continue. In the event, something > should happen to both or the one remaining cannot continue, passwords etc > are available to our children who will inherit our website. > > Everyone should consider that your work in your websites is actually part > of > your estate. You should designate in your will or a directive, notarized, > who is to receive ownership as well as access. Perhaps it wouldn't matter > on smaller sites, such as a one county site. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:43 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we > volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The > website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If > some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say > if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the > email > and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer > in > the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular > page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to > have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or > passed away or something. > I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be > required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that > way. > I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those > pages > if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain > and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. > I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the > issue. > Dan > > On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > Mary, > > > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > > be > > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > > this. > > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > > with > > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that > > is > > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people > > in > > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > > 'guarantee' > > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > > the > > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is > bad > > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, > > but > > to > > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > > address is asking for problems. > > > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > > been > > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the > > URL > > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have > > our > > own domain. > > > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > > several Nebraska counties > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Was not trying to convey I had a problem. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 11:26 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Dan, if you will note from my letters I said 'our' pages. My husband and I > do the project together. And our estate is set up to cover those > contingencies, as I said in my letters more than once. And yes I know > there > are abandoned pages out there by people who got involved, then for one > reason or another lost interest or they passed. It is very frustrating for > a state or national coordinator to have this happen. I have had it happen > with county coordinators. I simply do not link to them. If the contact > information on the page is no longer valid, and it is not linked to the > state page, it will eventually die of attrition or get pushed aside. > > And yes, I will freely admit I am set in my ways which have developed after > many years of experience. If Joyce and/or the Board has a problem with how > we run our pages, they can contact me. And they know it. They haven't in > nearly 15 years. You seem to be only one who has a problem with how we do > it. > > Maybe there is a reason why I don't get involved in these on line > discussions on the lists much. > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:00 PM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > Sounds like your set in your ways. > I spose you will work something out with Joyce. > So many people leave or die and then those pages just sit there. > I trust your not leaving this life any time soon. > At least that my plans too lol;) > Its just a fail safe so the people can take care of their organization. > I already know a few pages out there with alhn logos and not any way to > remove them. No contact. > If you dont feel safe about this, then maybe a family member you trust > will be able to be a second contact if your not available. > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> > To: <alhn-general@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > > > Well, Dan, it was way back when I was a state and county coordinator on > > Genweb when the state coordinator got into my site and ruined it out of > > vindictiveness (I wasn't the only one). That is when I went independent > > and > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have gone to non-clickable email addresses on all our pages. I have family surname pages where people can register a surname for a location, approximate years there, and a contact email. Have not had any complaints since doing that. I was told the spam spider engines do not pick up a non-clickable address. In the event that eventually fails, I will use an encryption code. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:47 AM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback A person could also use a gmail address it has excellent spam filters. Also you can delete it if its becomming a problem. I been in this since 1998 and have not had many re ocurring problems. Not nearly like rootsweb admin addresses are getting. E mail addresses can be changed in a heart beat. A pic is a good idea or a capicha for contact. Be surprised how many people rather just be a click away. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 8:40 AM, <sharonmc2002@aol.com> wrote: > Mary have you tried making a pic of your email address for the pages? It > still lets visitors to the site see how to get in touch but slows down the > people who use what addresses they reap for illicit use. > Sharon > > > In a message dated 10/29/2013 11:06:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: > > Mary, > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > be > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > this. > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > with > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > 'guarantee' > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > the > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is > bad > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > to > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > address is asking for problems. > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > been > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > own domain. > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > several Nebraska counties > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dan, while I respectfully see your point, I also disagree at least as far as our pages go. We have our own domain, which houses our WY, CO and NE pages, a one-name study, all of our surname pages, and various other projects such as my old photo collection. I do not allow ftp access to anyone but Don and I, probably because at one point years back pages were hacked, stolen and/or deleted. I am on a trusted server now. In the event that something should happen to one of us, the other will continue. In the event, something should happen to both or the one remaining cannot continue, passwords etc are available to our children who will inherit our website. Everyone should consider that your work in your websites is actually part of your estate. You should designate in your will or a directive, notarized, who is to receive ownership as well as access. Perhaps it wouldn't matter on smaller sites, such as a one county site. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Dan M Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the email and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer in the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or passed away or something. I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that way. I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those pages if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the issue. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Mary, > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > be > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > this. > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > with > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > 'guarantee' > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > the > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is bad > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > to > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > address is asking for problems. > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > been > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > own domain. > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > several Nebraska counties > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary have you tried making a pic of your email address for the pages? It still lets visitors to the site see how to get in touch but slows down the people who use what addresses they reap for illicit use. Sharon In a message dated 10/29/2013 11:06:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: Mary, Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will be re-examining this issue during our next meeting. I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of this. I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along with the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can 'guarantee' the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over the internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is bad enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but to willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home address is asking for problems. I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never been asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our own domain. MaryLee Thompson-Saban Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within Colorado History Homepage and several counties within several Nebraska counties ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds like your set in your ways. I spose you will work something out with Joyce. So many people leave or die and then those pages just sit there. I trust your not leaving this life any time soon. At least that my plans too lol;) Its just a fail safe so the people can take care of their organization. I already know a few pages out there with alhn logos and not any way to remove them. No contact. If you dont feel safe about this, then maybe a family member you trust will be able to be a second contact if your not available. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> To: <alhn-general@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > Well, Dan, it was way back when I was a state and county coordinator on > Genweb when the state coordinator got into my site and ruined it out of > vindictiveness (I wasn't the only one). That is when I went independent > and

Dan, Your thoughts are also very appreciated...thank you. >From Dan: I don’t see a problem with contact info. My cousin wrote me on march 3rd. I did not hear any thing more. In June I posted to other cousins. One found her obit she passed the day after she wrote me. She was our major family resource who wrote our book and more. I had no one tell me what happened. No one posted to her address book to let us know and I wish I did have contact because I could have ask for her works so we could finish it. Contact is not a bad idea. Also ftp access for just such things. Dan Matney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-EXECUTIVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Joyce Gaston Reece,President American Local History Network www.alhn.org

Mary, Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will be re-examining this issue during our next meeting. I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of this. I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along with the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can 'guarantee' the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over the internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is bad enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but to willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home address is asking for problems. I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never been asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our own domain. MaryLee Thompson-Saban Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within Colorado History Homepage and several counties within several Nebraska counties

The ftp access ... is not.. for the whole site. U can give access to the only page in question. Same as alhn give access to sites for voluteers Same as us gen web and rootsweb free pages. Also same as you rent your domain. You get a partial access to that site. As in the county or state site to alhn you give Joyce the ftp so if there is need of change on event of a death or a person simply quits the web she has access. This is not a untrusted controll where some one is going to manipulate a site. And if the site in question is abandoned why would it be a concern to Joyce having some access to that site? Us gen web state co ords have access to all county sites. Even hosted ones why should alhn be any differnet? Dan On Oct 29, 2013 10:09 AM, "Mary Saban" <msaban@wyoming.com> wrote: > Dan, while I respectfully see your point, I also disagree at least as far > as > our pages go. We have our own domain, which houses our WY, CO and NE > pages, > a one-name study, all of our surname pages, and various other projects such > as my old photo collection. I do not allow ftp access to anyone but Don > and > I, probably because at one point years back pages were hacked, stolen > and/or > deleted. I am on a trusted server now. In the event that something should > happen to one of us, the other will continue. In the event, something > should happen to both or the one remaining cannot continue, passwords etc > are available to our children who will inherit our website. > > Everyone should consider that your work in your websites is actually part > of > your estate. You should designate in your will or a directive, notarized, > who is to receive ownership as well as access. Perhaps it wouldn't matter > on smaller sites, such as a one county site. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan M > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:43 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] feedback > > I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we > volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The > website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If > some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say > if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the email > and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer in > the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular > page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to > have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or > passed away or something. > I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be > required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that > way. > I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those pages > if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain > and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. > I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the > issue. > Dan > > On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > Mary, > > > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > > be > > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > > this. > > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > > with > > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > > 'guarantee' > > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > > the > > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is > bad > > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > > to > > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > > address is asking for problems. > > > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > > been > > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > > own domain. > > > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > > several Nebraska counties > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A person could also use a gmail address it has excellent spam filters. Also you can delete it if its becomming a problem. I been in this since 1998 and have not had many re ocurring problems. Not nearly like rootsweb admin addresses are getting. E mail addresses can be changed in a heart beat. A pic is a good idea or a capicha for contact. Be surprised how many people rather just be a click away. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 8:40 AM, <sharonmc2002@aol.com> wrote: > Mary have you tried making a pic of your email address for the pages? It > still lets visitors to the site see how to get in touch but slows down the > people who use what addresses they reap for illicit use. > Sharon > > > In a message dated 10/29/2013 11:06:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: > > Mary, > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will > be > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > this. > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > with > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > 'guarantee' > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > the > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is bad > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > to > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > address is asking for problems. > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never > been > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > own domain. > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > several Nebraska counties > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I dont see the problem to give the personal contact to the people we volunteer to. Email addresses go by the wayside. No one to contact. The website. Say its on a free domain will sit there with no control. Ok. If some one dies and the website is there no one can access it. I would say if the volunteer e.g. say me for now. Had the web site and looses the email and it comes back bounced. And they have no phone num then the volunteer in the first place should be requested to give FTP access to that particular page and no one would need a phone num. Its just a matter of courtisy to have it so we or some one can find out if that person lost all access or passed away or something. I think any page a volunteer does for another organization should be required to give ftp access. At least another person can do something that way. I have hosting on my site for a few people. I have access to those pages if they quit some how. I also have a us gen web page hosted on my domain and the state rep has the ftp access also. Just in case. I guess its a matter of running an organization with control thats the issue. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 8:06 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Mary, > > Your comments below are very appreciated and understood. The board will be > re-examining this issue during our next meeting. > > > > I rarely join into a conversation, but do follow what is going on. > > I too think you will lose volunteers and/or counties/states because of > this. > I feel that if you have someone's full name and an email address, along > with > the URL for the page showing it is on line and has the ALHN logo, that is > all you need. In a world where we are dealing with 'anonymous' people in > cyber-space, it is not a wise idea to be giving out your personal phone > number and personal address. And the Board in all sincerity can > 'guarantee' > the information is safe, but in all actuality, if it is transmitted over > the > internet, it is recorded somewhere else besides with the Board. It is bad > enough for our email addresses to be plastered all over our websites, but > to > willingly give someone else our personal phone (land or cell) and home > address is asking for problems. > > I have been with this project close to 15 years I think. I have never been > asked for this, nor will I be giving it. I update the project if the URL > changes, which it shouldn't be changing again now that Don and I have our > own domain. > > MaryLee Thompson-Saban > Wyoming History Homepage and several counties within > Colorado History Homepage and several counties within > several Nebraska counties > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have space on my domain and can set up page ftp access for some one. Only difference is. I dont have multi domain and all page links would have the d-matney in them like d-matney/state ect: Like this one I wrote long hand www.d-matney/ACKY acky must be caps. Dan On Oct 29, 2013 7:58 AM, "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Dan, Your thoughts are also very appreciated...thank you. > > > From Dan: > I don’t see a problem with contact info. > My cousin wrote me on march 3rd. I did not hear any thing more. In June I > posted to other cousins. One found her obit she passed the day after she > wrote me. She was our major family resource who wrote our book and more. I > had no one tell me what happened. No one posted to her address book to let > us know and I wish I did have contact because I could have ask for her > works so we could finish it. > Contact is not a bad idea. > Also ftp access for just such things. > > Dan Matney > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-EXECUTIVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > www.alhn.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the biggest problems alhn has experienced as time passes is the issue of abandoned web sites. There are MANY sites for alhn and other like organizations that are floating around, simply put, ‘out there’. We have no way of knowing if the site is still in the possession of someone, if someone is alive or if they even care about the site any more because we have no way to contact them. The most precious thing to any genealogical researcher is INFORMATION. Data is difficult to come by and if one iota of data is lost because of an abandoned web site should we not be making attempts to preserve that data? I know, in the past, that alhn has had many problems making contact with volunteers & state coordinators even. They changed their email, they lost interest, they’ve been ill.... any number of reasons. If we have no way to contact volunteers then how are we to know if they want to keep the site, donate the data or if they even give a flip what happens to it. Under copyright laws ALHN, in the past, couldn’t just go nab web site info...we’d be in violation of copyright laws. Under the current bylaws & standing rules defining what an abandoned site is & the legacy program then we have the means to stop data from being lost....which should be one of our number one goals. We have absolutely NO desire to arbitrarily overtake anyone’s data or web site and we have taken steps to see that it doesn’t happen to anyone affiliated with ALHN in the future. The ultimate goal is to prevent loss of data on sites that are no longer being maintained for some reason. Nathan Zipfel, myself, Darlene Anderson, Cyndy Cox and others who created these bylaws and standing rules worked really hard to walk that fine line that would not interfere with a ‘volunteer’ organization yet still help ALHN to be the foster parent of data linked into this network. We never had any notion of being at all invasive of anyone’s site and these bylaws & standing rules does not do that. By asking for reasonable contact information we can, at least, make attempts to contact the web site manager if needed and learn what is going on....work with that volunteer to get them an assistant or locate someone that will take over the site for them if they no longer are capable or willing to do so. In the near future you, as an alhn volunteer, should receive an email from our membership coordinator, Cyndy Cox. She will be asking for your contact information...simple stuff like your mailing address, email address, phone number (if you don’t mind sharing that). We are under an oath of office that insures the information will be kept confidential. We hope this simple information will help your ALHN Board of directors preserve and protect the future of your web site and ALHN. Joyce Gaston Reece,President American Local History Network www.alhn.org

We have them. They will be posted soon. Make it a Great Genealogy Day! Darlene Anderson, Vice-President American Local History Network http://www.alhn.org/ State Coordinator for South Carolina-ALHN And Kentucky-ALHN! -----Original Message----- From: alhn-general-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alhn-general-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cyndy Cox Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:24 PM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] Rhonda Smith What happened to the Legacy logos that were already sent in? On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net>wrote: > You have to be better than me. Thanks. Pam R. might help makes some too. > She has before. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > www.alhn.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhonda Smith > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:56 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] Rhonda Smith > > I'm not good with graphic making but I'll give the logos a shot. > > > Rhonda > On 10/27/2013 8:58 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece wrote: > > Rhonda > > > > You had volunteered recently to help with alhn's web site. I > > wondered if you might create some logo's for ALHN? We need logo's > > for the Legacy website program, too. Everthing we have displayed on > > the site has been there for awhile and we need something's new to go > > with them > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > > American Local History Network > > www.alhn.org > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What happened to the Legacy logos that were already sent in? On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net>wrote: > You have to be better than me. Thanks. Pam R. might help makes some too. > She has before. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > www.alhn.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhonda Smith > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:56 AM > To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] Rhonda Smith > > I'm not good with graphic making but I'll give the logos a shot. > > > Rhonda > On 10/27/2013 8:58 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece wrote: > > Rhonda > > > > You had volunteered recently to help with alhn’s web site. I wondered if > > you might create some logo’s for ALHN? We need logo’s for the Legacy > > website program, too. Everthing we have displayed on the site has been > > there for awhile and we need something’s new to go with them > > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > > American Local History Network > > www.alhn.org > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You have to be better than me. Thanks. Pam R. might help makes some too. She has before. Joyce Gaston Reece,President American Local History Network www.alhn.org -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Smith Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:56 AM To: alhn-general@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALHN-GENERAL] Rhonda Smith I'm not good with graphic making but I'll give the logos a shot. Rhonda On 10/27/2013 8:58 AM, Joyce Gaston Reece wrote: > Rhonda > > You had volunteered recently to help with alhn’s web site. I wondered if > you might create some logo’s for ALHN? We need logo’s for the Legacy > website program, too. Everthing we have displayed on the site has been > there for awhile and we need something’s new to go with them > > > Joyce Gaston Reece,President > American Local History Network > www.alhn.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHN-GENERAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message