More to come Family Group Record ============================================ Husband: John MONK - ----------------------------------------- Father: Thomas MONK Mother: Elizabeth HAMBY =============================================== Wife: Arrenia KIRKLAND - ---------------------------------------------- Birth: 25 Feb 1859 Death: 29 Apr 1939 Father: Levi KIRKLAND (b 9 Feb 1827) Mother: Sarah HAMM ================================================= Children ================================================= 1 M Oscar MONK Birth: 1878 - ------------------------------------------------ 2 M Councel MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Nettie I. BAGETT - ------------------------------------------------ 3 M Wiley MONK Birth: 2 Nov 1883 Conech County, Alabama Burial: 1959 Cedar Creek Cemetery (East of Castleberr Death: 22 Feb 1959 Alabama Spouse: Nettie CLARK (m 10 Apr 1912) - ------------------------------------------------ 4 M Sanford MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: - ------------------------------------------------ 5 M Tommy MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama - ------------------------------------------------ 6 M Arthur MONK Birth: 21 Sep 1892 Death: 20 Oct 1963 Alabama - ------------------------------------------------ 7 M John Ervin MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Carla RABON - ------------------------------------------------ 8 F Sarah MONK Birth: abt 1884 Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Edd UPTAGRAFTT Spouse: BROOKS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 9 F Gertude MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Shelby HODGE - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 10 F Dolly MONK Birth: 26 Nov 1896 Conech County, Alabama Death: 26 Apr 1975 Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Thomas Edd SHIPP ========================================================== Prepared 12 May 1999 by: R. Keith Hale P.O. Box 2022 Woodville, Texas 75979 409-283-3253 >Jim, > >The children for Joshua and Lydia I have are: >Josiah b. 1816 SC >Elizabeth Monk b. 1820 SC >Jermiah (Ira) Monk b. 1821 SC >Thomas Monk b. 1822 > >Children of Thomas Monk and Elizabeth Hamby >Gracey C. Monk born 1857, in Henry Co., Al >Thomas James (jim) Monk born 1861 in Henry Co., Al m. Francis Kirkalnd >Ella Monk b. 1870 in Henry Co., Al m. Henry Jackson Harrell ***My direct >line. >Ann Monk Born 1864 in Henry Co. >Antimissa Monk b. 1840 in Henry Co. m. Sidney Kirkland (son of Caleb >Kirkland). Caleb was born in 1842 in Henry Co. and is the brother to >Matthew Kirkland. > Children of >Antimisaa & Sidney >Lorence, Chimero, Ardelia, Alzada, Iola, Nathon, Ellie, Albert, Peyton and >Docie. >John Ira Monk born 12/21/1850 in Henry Co. m Arrena Kirkland (Arrena is the >daughter of Levia Kirkland of Henry Co.,) > >My question is Caleb and Matthew Kirkland's father is who? >Arrena is Levi Kirklands daughter, how is related to Kirkland Line? >How are all these people related to Lydia and Aaron Kirkland SR. from >Edgefield District, SC? >Is Aaron the great uncle to Matthew and Caleb? >Where does that leave Levi and Arrena? > >Lorie Harrell >QSCV@twave.net >PS. Before anyone gets upset and says why is she posting to this list. My >people that I am researching have lived in many different states and >Counties. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >To: 'John R. Harrell' <QSCV@twave.net> >Cc: 'crawfish@worldnetla.net' <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:44 PM >Subject: RE: CRAWFISH - INTRO > > >>Hi Lorie, >> >>Right on. I believe this is the Joshua. From the info that I've seen, he >>appears only in the 1830 AL census in Bibb County, and I recall no Monks in >>the 1840 AL census index (although something might be missing). However, >>Lydia appears in 1850 Henry Co., as do Josiah, Thomas, and Uriah (likely >>sons of Joshua and Lydia). Along with Lydia in 1860, appear Jeremiah, >>Josiah, Thomas, and Thomas R. in Henry Co. It's been some time since I >>looked at this line, but Joshua was listed 50-60 years in 1830, while Lydia >>was 40-50. Therefore able to determine birth year within a ten-year span. >> Listed also were seven other males (sons?) and three females (daughters?). >> Two males and one female listed 20-30, three males 15-20, one male and one >>female 10-15, one male and one female 5-10. One may, thereby, determine >>possible timeframe for marriage and refine approximate birth years. As I >>said previously, because of the fact that Joshua and Isaac were both in >>Bibb Co. in 1830; were likely both from Edgefield Dist., SC; were both near >>in age; I would reckon that a close relationship existed between the two. >> I have somewhere settled on 1797 as Isaac's birth year, and (working from >>memory now) I believe I somehow approximated Joshua's birth year to 1780. >> I'll need to check that further. I know that Isaac had moved to >>Natchitoches Parish, LA by the 1840 census, but I do find it strange that >>neither Joshua nor Lydia appear in an 1840 census, not only AL but any >>other I've seen. They might have been in process of moving from Bibb to >>Henry at the time and simply have been missed for that reason. >> >>Any rate, you might want to post Joshua to the group. I know Nancy Watkins >>is a descendant of that line, and I think there are others who are >>researching it. Nancy also has a cousin who hasn't signed on with the >>group but who is also working that line. Hopefully we will, after a time, >>come away somewhat wiser on many of these folks than we were in the begi >>nning. >> >>Regards, >>Jim >> >> >> >>On Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:39 AM, John R. Harrell [SMTP:QSCV@twave.net] >>wrote: >>> Jimmie, >>> >>> I have a Joshua Monk who married Lydia Kirkland. Both are from Edgefield >>> District, SC and moved to Henry Co. around 1800's . Could this be the >>> Joshua? >>> >>> Lorie >>> qscv@twave.net >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >>> To: James Arnett <jarnett@flash.net>; Brenda Burton >>> <brendamozleyburton@usa.net>; Lottie <punkin1@etex.net>; Lorie Harrell >>> <QSCV@twave.net>; David Henderson <david_hndrsn@hotmail.com>; Kirk Keitha >>> <KKirk6@aol.com>; Long Glen <glong@juno.com>; Charles S. Miller >>> <malden@islc.net>; Monk Barb <CBJKC@aol.com>; Bob Monk >><rcm4me@yahoo.com>; >>> Monk Gary <monk@jps.net>; Monk Jimmie D. <crawfish@worldnetla.net>; Jean >>> Niemeyer <LdySearchr@aol.com>; Otto Teresa <AFOTTO@prodigy.net>; Parker >>> David <DaveOahu@aol.com>; Donald Piserchio >><doorpiserchio@mindspring.com>; >>> Reisner Nena <Dreisner1@aol.com>; Ryman Betty <dryman@sat.net>; Scott >>Grace >>> <grace-scott@email.msn.com>; Alexis Smith <LEX051EE@aol.com>; Watkins >>Nancy >>> <WAWNEW@worldnet.att.net> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 9:26 PM >>> Subject: CRAWFISH - INTRO >>> >>> >>> >Dear Family and Friends, >>> > >>> >I am Jimmie D. Monk (Jim) of Lacamp, Vernon Parish, LA. I was born >>> >December 28, 1949 to Fred Marcus and Venson (Miller) Monk. I retired >>from >>> >the US Navy in 1991 after 20+ years as a naval cryptologist. Since that >>> >time I have mostly taught school at the small, rural high school from >>which >>> >I graduated many moons ago. I teach Social Studies (American History, >>> >World History, and World Geography), English III, and variously French >>or >>> >Spanish. I became interested in genealogical research after having >>> >attended several family reunions and realized that too little was known >>> >about our family. After some reflection, I also realized that I was >>not >>> >doing my part to change that. With some infectiously inspirational >>> >encouragement from a relative, Betty (Monk)Ryman (who has contributed so >>> >much to providing a sound basis from which to work), I decided it was >>time >>> >to give it a whirl. I feel that we've made immense headway in a short >>> >time, and, although we remain stumped at the stage of our >>ggggrandfather, >>> >we have learned so much about other members/lines of the Monk family, >>many >>> >(or perhaps all) of whom we expect to eventually converge and we will >>> >finally be able to stand back and look at a clear and complete picture. >> We >>> >do intend to end our research, however, when we have reached Adam and >>Eve. >>> > >>> > >>> >As I said, Betty and I are presently stumped at our ggggrandfather, >>Isaac >>> >Monk, who first appears in a land patent in Autauga Co., AL in 1823. He >>> >next appears in the 1830 Bibb Co., AL Census Index. Also listed there >>is >>> >Joshua Monk whose family later appears in Henry Co., AL. Because of >>> >proximity, I tend to assume a close relationship between these two men. >>> > Isaac then appears in the 1840 and 1850 Natchitoches Parish, LA census >>> >listings and then disappears. Census records indicate that he was born >>in >>> >SC; family tradition favors Edgefield District for place of birth. I >>have >>> >a large file of Isaac's line should anyone wish to see it. I tried to >>> >attach it to this message in a format probably readable to all but kept >>> >bombing my e-mail program. Will need to experiment a bit. >>> > >>> >I also have a fairly complete file on one Merrill Monk <1840 GA>1840 >>> >Chambers Co., AL>1860 Claiborne Parish, LA. Since I could find no one >>else >>> >working on this line, I adopted it. Should anyone be interested in this >>> >file I'll gladly send it along. Very recent information I received from >>> >Don Piserchio, via Betty Ryman, indicates that Merrill and his siblings >>> >(Ann, William, James, Polly, and Silas) were the children of Robert and >>> >Christiana (Flowers) Monk of GA. This source also indicates that Robert >>> >was likely the son of Jonathan Monk, R.S. and Mary (Popwell) Monk, >>> >variously of NC>SC>NC. Jonathan was likely the son of John Monk, >>probably >>> >b. England, who married (1) Mary ? and (2) Frances Hodges, although >>there >>> >were perhaps more wives. John was apparently in NC by 1723 and in >>Johnston >>> >Co., NC by 1746. He had three unknown daughters and three sons >>(probably >>> >Jonathan, Willis, and Silas). This Silas, Sr. then becomes an entirely >>> >different story as grand ancestor of a large line of his own, numerous >>of >>> >the men of which also bore the name Silas. >>> > >>> >Aside from these two, I have a great deal of variously well-connected >>data >>> >and a pile of unconnected stuff on numerous members of the Monk name. >>> > >>> >Allied surnames I am working on: Foshee, Gordy, Jowers, and Cooley. >>> > >>> >Other surnames I am researching: Miller, Welch, Spurgeon, Chism, Burns, >>> >Coody, and Peavy. >>> > >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> >Jim >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >______________________________