Ray, You are an angel! I think this John WEBB may be the son of the Rice WEBB I need. Rice was a Rev. War patriot, and almost certainly married and started his family in NC, so this fellow might the right age to be his son, maybe his eldest one. Every little bit of data helps to straighten out this family! Now I need to see if I can find tax records or something and look at this guy's land and see if it the same or near Rice's....if I can just find RICE! oh how I wish I could turn back time and make sure 1800 - 1850 records were more detailed and had survived until today! Anne