This was posted to another list, I have sent the inquirer a message saying who I think it maybe. It cannot be Stephen Oates and Elizabeth Shipp's offspring because the document for the sale of the land in Sampson County listed in Sampson County North Carolina Special Proceedings Book 3 pp 43-46 list all of their children, as does Elizabeth's Estate Records and a Joseph is not listed among their offsprings. I found a Joseph on the tax lists for Bladen County North Carolina for 1768. None of the other descendants have an heir named Joseph. So is this actually a grandson or great-grandson does anyone know for certain. Thank you Le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelmarie Curtis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:21 AM Subject: Joseph Oates-1850-Henry Co. AL WHO is this JOSEPH OATES? 1850 Census - Henry Co., AL Divisions: The Southern District Reel No: M432-6 - Page No. 427B House No. 713 - Family No. 724 Oates Jos 41 M NC Farmer 600 Oates May 35 F NC Oates Catherine E. 12 F NC Oates Joseph 11 M NC Oates Nancy 9 F NC Oates Mary 6 F AL Oates Stephen H. 5 M AL Oates Ann 3 F AL Oates Susan 2 F AL Could Joseph, head of this family, be the son of Stephen and Elizabeth Shipp Oates? If not, then WHO are his parents? His Grandparents? Thanks for your assistance. Thelmarie "Thel" Alexander Curtis A Stephen Moses Oates Descendant [email protected] ==== OATES Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237