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    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Elias Parish/Parrish
    2. In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:03:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, lanie4484@yahoo.com writes: You wouldn't have a Annie Zrvasana Parrish, born about 1827 would you, she married Samuel James Hicks Name may be spelled Arvezena. She was called Zenie. She and her family lived on Hicks Road in Henry County, Alabama. They lived in Henry County until it was divided and became Houston County, AL. They farmed and raised their children. I have her and her husband and 9 children. I have her name as Arvesena Zenie "Annie" Parrish. Let me know what you need. Ann Robbins

    09/18/2006 07:28:08
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Richardson Parrish, John Parrish, 1870 Henry County, Alabama
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Parrish/Parish, Strickland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/2275.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Here is the family line as I have it now. Just keep in mind that I am still documenting a lot of this. William Parrish born 1701 married Elizabeth Tiller son: Jeremiah Parrish born 1726 two children of Jeremiah Parrish: 1. Jason Edward Parrish born 1748 had 9 children 2. Jeremiah Parrish born 1750 (no other information so far) Jason Edward Parrish born 1748 children were: Roger Parrish (my ancestor) Samuel Parrish born 1769(ancestor of Richardson J. Parrish, Sr.) Unknown Parrish William Parrish Unknown Parrish Unknown Parrish Ama Ann Parrish Elias Parrish, Sr. Richardson J. Parrish Richardson J. Parrish, Sr. (1807-1888) was the son of Samuel Parrish born 1769 and Elizabeth Ledbetter Samuel was the brother of my ancestor Roger Parrish. Samuel must have name his son for his brother Richardson J. Parrish. Richardson J. Parrish, Sr. born 1897 also had a son Richardson J. Parrish, Jr. born 1846.

    09/18/2006 05:20:14
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Elias Parish/Parrish
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Parish/Parrish, Strickland, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3087.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, they could have more than 2 children. That was all I had found so far. Do you have any dates to go with those children's names?

    09/18/2006 04:43:43
  1. 09/18/2006 03:57:33
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Source for Elias Parish/Parrish
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PARISH, PARRISH, TAYLOR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3087.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: My memory works at it's own accord. But, I finally remembered it. My source for Elias being born in NC. THE ANDALUSIA STAR NEWS Andalusia, Covington Co., AL. Zacharia Parish family came to Alabama from Goldsboro N.C. By Curtis Thomasson In an earlier column, the Parrish family of Covington County was reviewed. At the time the name was described as being spelled Parrish or Parish. In today's column a branch of the family who used the Parish spelling and who has not been related to the Parrish family in the earlier column will be described. Progenitor of the Parish descendants in Covington County was Zacharia H. Parish, son of Elias (1794-1841) and Jane Parish. He was born on March 31, 1815, in Goldsboro, Kershaw County, North Carolina. He was married to Matilda Kemp, daughter of Joseph Kemp, who was born April 17, 1817. They resided for a time in Goldsboro, North Carolina, where he worked as a farmer and a circuit-riding preacher. Zacharia also became a skilled carpenter and cabinet-maker. He was credited with building some impressive pieces of furniture such as cabinets and chests. One of these is a prize possession of a great, great granddaughter, Charlotte (Langford) Donnenwirth¸ in her home in Lillian, Alabama. The family eventually made their way to the State of Alabama. They resided in the Brundidge community of Pike County where Zacharia continued his farming and preaching work with the Methodist Church. He is credited with helping to build the Elba Methodist Church. At his death in 1899, he was buried in the Friendship Cemetery in Brundidge. At Matilda's death in 1901, she was laid to rest beside him. Zacharia and Matilda reared the following children: Dora Ann, b. 1837; John Wiley, b. 1840, d. 1841; Simeon E., b. 1842, d. 1852; Dassell Harvey, b. 1845; Joseph Tally, b. 1847; William Ivey, b. 1849, d. 1935, m. Delaney Ann Bowden; James H., b. 1852, d. 1853; Mary Eugenia "Molly," b. 1855, d. 1946; and Charley Higs, b. 1859, d. 1883. Their son, William Ivey, is the one who moved this family to Covington County circa 1907. He settled his family fairly near the little town of Dozier. He had been a successful farmer in the Brundidge area of Pike County before his move. He became well-known for his skills in veterinary medicine. Neighbors sought his assistance in doctoring their family pets and farm animals such as cows, hogs, horses and mules. He also became a popular dentist for the local African Americans. He was a small man in physical stature-slender and standing five feet and six inches-but he stood tall in the eyes of those who knew him. It has been written that he was "a well-respected gentleman." William Ivey was born September 18, 1849, and died April 9, 1935. His wife, Delaney Ann Bowden, was born July 30, 1852, and died June 15, 1924. They reared 10 children, six of whom became permanent residents of Covington County. William and Delaney had the following children: Albert Sydney, b. 1872, d. 1967, m. Mary Helen Shehane; Corah Lee, b. 1874, d. 1876; Sam Waverly, b.1876, d. 1937, m. 1898 Eula Florence (Jones) Jacobs; Blanche, b. 1879, d. 1938, m. Andrew J. Strickland M.D.; Emmie Vernon, b. 1882, d. 1972, m. 1903 Rufus Jackson Langford; Tessa Ola, b. 1884, d. 1973, m. 1905 Agustus Walter Flowers; Tobe Jones, b. 1886, d. 1971, m. 1924 Minnie Lee Mabry; Eva Lee, b. 1888, d. 1987, m. 1909 Shade Washington Stewart; Charles William, b. 1891, d. 1972, m. 1917 Myrtle Vance; and Eunice May, b. 1895, d. 1982, m. 1911 James "Jim" Collins Lord. All of these children were born in Pike County. The oldest son, Albert Sydney, and his wife, Mary Helen, had the following children: Colin Dewey, b. 1898, d. 1980, m. 1926 Evelyn Morris; Ocran Sydney, b. 1901, d. 1923; Palton Tasso, b. 1903, d. 1963; Leo Strasberg, b. 1907, d. 1981, m. Reba Adams; Leafy Mae, b. 1909, d. 1996; and Lizzie Tom, b. 1913. The son named Sam Waverly moved into the Rose Hill community circa 1915. There he purchased a farm located across the road from his father. He and his wife, Eula Florence Jones, daughter of William Asa and Ruhamia (Brooks) Jones, only had two children: Robert Hunter, b. 1903, d. 1971, m. 1924 Flora C. Velma Taylor (1907-1976), daughter of William Melvin and Icy Della (Dauphin) (1881-1952) Taylor; and William Graff, b. 1905, d. 1982, m. Elizabeth Palmer (1917-1988). Both of Sam's sons were ordained Baptist ministers. They pastored churches throughout the Southern Baptist Convention area for more than 44 years. Robert also attended Troy Normal School (Troy State University) and earned his degree in education. He worked as a teacher and coach in the Opp schools. While there he organized a Sunday School class in the mill village, which helped plant what eventually became the Westview Baptist Church. At his death he was buried in the Mt. Gilead Baptist Church Cemetery in Rose Hill, and his brother, William, was buried in Lyndon, Kentucky. Robert and his wife had the following three sons: Aaron Feagin, b. 1926, m. 1945 Vinola Kent, lived in Decatur, Georgia; Margaret Eloise, b. 1931, m. 1952 Clarence William Scott, Jr.; Robert Hunter II, b. 1944, m. (1) 1968 Sandra Lynn Griffin (2) 1982 Jinanne Bennett. Sam's sister, Emmie Vernon, was born in Brundidge and became a very petite young lady. In 1903, she was married to Rufus J. Langford, and became a very capable and devoted wife. In 1924, the family moved from the Rose Hill community into Andalusia to enable their five daughters to get as much formal education as was available. They reared the following children: Zelma Ivy, b. 1904, d. 1924, m. 1924 Charlie Glynn; Gladys Blanch, b. 1908, d. 1929, m. 1928 Leon Thomas Blue; Althea, b. 1910, d. 1912; Minnie Lee, b. 1912, d. 1997, m. 1933 Coleman Daniel Pritchett of Red Level; and Ruth Hilma, b. 1918, m. (1) 1936 Louis Rhoda Jernagan. (2) 1940 Franklin Gilmore Harrison. Sam's next sister, Tessa Ola, and her husband Agustus Walter Flowers, reared the following children: Delano Cleone, b. 1906, m. 1926 George W. Seay; Howard Curtis, b. 1908, m. Caroline Robertson. Sam's youngest sister, Eunice May, and her husband, James Collins Lord, lived in the Rose Hill community and had the following children: Wade, m. Martha Benning; Herman, m. Boncile Frazier; Henry Tobe, m. Leila Florine Bryant; Sarah Frances, m. Willard Morgan; Delana Opal, m. Percy Faircloth; and Mary Vernon, m. Roy Reeves. There are many descendants of this family who still reside in Covington County and many who have moved to other areas. Among the descendants is Charlotte Langford Donnenwirth who married Robert Gaylord Donnenwirth. They make their home in Lillian, Alabama, where her mother, Emmie, lived next to them until her death, and her Aunt, Hilma, lives next to them at present. This couple shared their family genealogical records as the source for this writing. Others contributed bits of information as well. Appreciation is expressed to all of these folks who have significant interest in their heritage. Anyone who might have corrections or additions to the above data is requested to contact Curtis Thomasson at 21361 Rabren Road, Andalusia, AL 36420 or

    09/18/2006 01:19:52
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Ward or Kirkland
    2. Maurice, I need help with my Ward family. I notice you are researching the Wards and Kirklands. Those are both my lines. Are yours tied in with Joseph Ward (b. 1824, d. 1860) who married Sarah "Sally" Davis (b.1827, d. 1894) - Henry County, AL? Their son, Joseph M. Ward (b.1857, d. 1929) married Mary Elizabeth Clenney (b. 1870, d. 1935). Their son, David Hickman Ward was my great-grandfather. This family has been a hard one for me and I have been trying to find any ties to the other Wards in the area. Could I bother you to tell me what you know? I appreciate any help you could provide! Thank you so much! Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.M. McAllister" <smcallister2360@charter.net> Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:06 pm Subject: Re: [ALHENRY] Ward or Kirkland To: alhenry@rootsweb.com Cc: alhouston@rootsweb.com, algeneva@rootsweb.com > Do any of you researchers for Ward and Kirkland find a James > Benjamin "Jim > Bear" Ward (abt 1796 - 1862)and his wife Mary Elizabeth English > Ward (abt > 1798 - 1883). They were full blood Creek Indians and lived in > what is now > Eastern Geneva County, AL. I would like to know the story on this > couple.Their granddaughter, Bessie Davis married my grandfather, > Jonah Hugh > McAllister. Anyone have this line? > Thanks so much for your anticipated reply. > S. Maurice McAllister > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lanie4484@yahoo.com> > To: <ALHENRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ALHENRY] Ward or Kirkland > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Smith, Ward, Hicks, Powell > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/68.1.1.2 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Do you have any info on your Mary Ward? My g grandmother was > Mary Ward > born in Henry co, Al, but I can not find any info on her. She was > living in > household of Aron and Ellender Smith in 1880 with my grandfather > William and > his brother Zack. Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALHENRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/18/2006 03:40:32
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Can't We All Just Get Along??
    2. Val McGinness
    3. Amen! ----- Original Message ----- From: shannona@triad.rr.com To: ALHENRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALHENRY] Can't We All Just Get Along?? Date: 17 Sep 2006 17:38:43 -0600 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/3098 Message Board Post: I have always enjoyed researching my family history on this Henry County message board. It has been a such a great resource and it has been a joy to find distant cousins! However, recently, it seems to have become a media utilized for public disagreements. I have been afraid to post anything for fear of negative responses! I feel that if you have a problem with someone, rather than posting it publicly, please email them directly and not discuss it in this forum. I would rather not read arguments between others, as I feel this should be a private matter. Let's please all get along and be amicable with one another! I do apologize if this upsets anyone...I honestly don't mean to do so. Let's just please be nice to one another - we're all trying our best to do the same thing - research! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Val Val McGinness Please visit my site/s at: http://webpages.charter.net/valmcginness/sitemap.html -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com

    09/18/2006 12:57:08
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] T. Cad Parker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3099.1 Message Board Post: I have an Edward R Parker, b. 1852 in AL, who married an Arizonia Cherry, daughter of Henry Cherry and Mary Polly Sheffield. I have Edward as the son of William Parker, b. 1830 in SC and Margaret Emeline Box, b. 1818 in GA. Do you have any of these families in your data? I would be very interested in the children of Edward and Arizonia. I noticed that one of TC Parker's children was named Arizonia Cal

    09/17/2006 04:15:16
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Ward or Kirkland
    2. S.M. McAllister
    3. Do any of you researchers for Ward and Kirkland find a James Benjamin "Jim Bear" Ward (abt 1796 - 1862)and his wife Mary Elizabeth English Ward (abt 1798 - 1883). They were full blood Creek Indians and lived in what is now Eastern Geneva County, AL. I would like to know the story on this couple. Their granddaughter, Bessie Davis married my grandfather, Jonah Hugh McAllister. Anyone have this line? Thanks so much for your anticipated reply. S. Maurice McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: <lanie4484@yahoo.com> To: <ALHENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [ALHENRY] Ward or Kirkland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Smith, Ward, Hicks, Powell > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/68.1.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Do you have any info on your Mary Ward? My g grandmother was Mary Ward born in Henry co, Al, but I can not find any info on her. She was living in household of Aron and Ellender Smith in 1880 with my grandfather William and his brother Zack. Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/17/2006 02:59:40
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Can't We All Just Get Along??
    2. Lannie Walker
    3. There is something of value in reading the thoughts of others engaged in ancestor research. I have learned a lot reading the disagreements as well as the agreements. It has helped me forge my overall operating philosophy about the entire field. I have learned there are folks who are into this exercise simply to find a rich or famous ancestor whose fame that they can be reflected in. I have seen people who were seeking only to find if they were illegitimate offsprings of royalty. I have seen many recently who are into genealogy for strictly pecuniary reasons, To make money. Genealogy means different things to different people. Knowing all of these things has helped me to define my my interest in genealogy. First, I don't care what the stations of my ancestors were, I just want to know who they were; their names and where they came from, and where they went. Any research or effort that I put into it is to satisfy me curiosity and when I find something new I want to share it with the whole world, and for free and with no copyright or intellectual property labels. If I compiled a book, of course I would try to at least be repaid for the expenses of publishing it. I have purchased a number of books written on my family lines which I value. However, as one relative who wrote a book on one of my family lines, after she sold all of her books, she didn't care who copied the contents. And, of course, republishing the book, or any parts without giving credit would be immoral. I saw a post by one researcher who threatened to sue anyone who downloaded a picture that he posted and then reposted it somewhere else. He obviously gives copyrights more value than they really have in genealogy. Why? What could an infringement mean in that case? No one claimed to have been the one to have taken the photo and what self respecting attorney would represent a person trying to sue someone else over one picture. Anyway, if I post a picture on mye website, all are encouraged to use it to their heart's content. This is not to say that data should ever be disseminated as being verified when it hasn't been. When I first became interested I was guilty of wanting to believe everything that I saw that I paid no or little attention to the accuracy of the information. I regret that but I do not advertise anything as verified data unless I give sources. I didn't mean to get so verbose but I did want to add my thoughts to this exchange. Lannie Walker www.lanniewalker.com Researching: Scott, Walker, Kirkland, Dorman, Beard, McCown giving credit shannona@triad.rr.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/3098 > >Message Board Post: > >I have always enjoyed researching my family history on this Henry County message board. It has been a such a great resource and it has been a joy to find distant cousins! However, recently, it seems to have become a media utilized for public disagreements. I have been afraid to post anything for fear of negative responses! I feel that if you have a problem with someone, rather than posting it publicly, please email them directly and not discuss it in this forum. I would rather not read arguments between others, as I feel this should be a private matter. Let's please all get along and be amicable with one another! I do apologize if this upsets anyone...I honestly don't mean to do so. Let's just please be nice to one another - we're all trying our best to do the same thing - research! > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    09/17/2006 01:49:52
    1. [ALHENRY] Kirkland marriages
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3093.1.1.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Donald, Thanks for this additional information on the marriages. It is appreciated. Winnette

    09/17/2006 01:46:04
    1. [ALHENRY] T. Cad Parker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PARKER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3099 Message Board Post: Steve, this is not a family I have researched before. It sure looks like a challenge. According to Familysearch.com there was a C. T. Parker born c1828, but, I could not bring Also, the little nephew of W. H. Parker named Cad (see below) might be a clue that Cad comes from the same line. Winnette 1880 Crawfords And Columbia, Henry, Alabama Page 53, Supv. Dist No. 4, Enumeration Dist. 81 June 28, 1880 by J. L. Williams Household 547 Name Age W. H. Parker 35 Self Farmer b. SC Susannah Parker 74 Mother Housekeeping b.SC Mary Parker 39 Sister b.AL Nancy Parker 37 Sister b. AL Jane Parker 33 Sister b. AL. Marthy Parker 25 Sister b. AL. Cad Parker 6 nephew b. AL. b abt. 1874 All shown as White ======================== 1880 Census of Pike Co. Al, Beat 14 Page 60 July 1 1880 by L. A. Baker Parker, T. C. W M 35 Blacksmith Euphema C. wife W F 24 (is this Euphema Cornelia??) Laura ?? dau W F 14 Emma dau W F 12 Katherine dau 10 Nancy E. dau 8 Mary E. dau 6 Arizona dau 4 The rest of these two lines are blacked out Willie other W M 1900 Census of Troy, Pike Co., AL. Enumerated July 2 1900 by James King 496 497 Parker, T. Cad W M b. May 1843 57 M Al Ga Ga Cornelia Wife W F b. Oct 1850 49 M AL Al Al Lizzie Dau W F b. Dec 1872 29 S Al Al Al Willie Dau W F b. Dec 1879 age 20 S Al Al Al Ethel Dau W F b. Aug 1884 age 15 S Al Al Al John H. Son W M b. Aug 1888 age 11 S Al Al Al This age is not possible..... 1910 Census of Troy, Pike Co., Al. Ward 5 April 16, 1910 by Myrtle Moore Name Age T Cadmus Parker age 68 b. abt. 1842 Blksmth Al SC SC Cornelia Parker 59 Hskpr AL NC NC Lizzie Parker 31 Tailor AL AL AL Ethel Parker 20 Hskpr AL AL AL Alabama Deaths, 1908-59 Record Name: Mrs Cad Parker (Cornelia?) Death Date: 05 Feb 1912 Death County: Pike Volume: 28 Certificate: 329 Roll: 1 Sources http://www.ancestry.com http://www.trackingyourroots.com/henry.htm

    09/17/2006 01:43:06
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] SAMUEL JAMES & ARVASANA PARISH HICKS
    2. I am aware that I don't own the copyright to my story. Each of the County Heritage Book Committees and the publishing company own the copyrights.

    09/17/2006 01:01:21
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Moses Armstrong family and the Primitive Baptist Faith
    2. Hi Steve! I am very interested in the Parrish line! Could you tell me about the 26 graves you mentioned in the Piney Grove Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery? I would appreciate any information you could provide! Thank you so much for your time!! Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: jselliott37@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:07 pm Subject: [ALHENRY] Moses Armstrong family and the Primitive Baptist Faith To: ALHENRY-L@rootsweb.com > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Armstrong, Parker, Nesbitt, Arnold, Mims > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3087.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Winette, > > First, let me say how good it is to be in touch with you again! > I've been out of touch with the entire world due to sickness that > is too horrid to describe since mid-2003. But, now I'm back and > thankful that, as Elder March Herring used to say, "things are as > well with me as they are." > > PINEY GROVE PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH CEMETERY: > Armstrongs: None > > Parkers: None > > Nesbit: None > > Too bad you're not looking for the Parrish family for then I could > write you an epistle on them with 26 total graves with the surname > Parrish, not to mention those who have married names!! > > On your Armstrong line, is this the Moses Armstrong family or the > Thomas Armstrong family? If it is the Moses Armstrong clan, then > that family is steeped in the "Primitive Baptist Faith and Order." > I can share some information about them and their involvement in > the old Shilo Primitive Baptist Church that ceased to exist about > 100 years ago. A son of "Uncle Mose" Armstrong, Elder Martin > Armstrong, was a Primitive Baptist preacher. He was ordained > into the ministry after being "liberated" and it was clear he had > "the Gospel calling" at Shilo, where he also served as pastor for > several/many years. He served as pastor of Piney Grove Primitive > Baptist Church in the years following its establishment April 21, > 1849. Moses and Martin Armstrong were buried north of old Shilo > just east of the old Columbia to Abbeville Road in today's Union > Grove Community. > > In fact, the Armstrong Family Cemetery became what is known today > as the Old Union Grove Cemetery. This is ironic since Union Grove > Church is a Freewill Baptist Church and the Armstrong’s were > Primitive Baptist; this creates polar opposites in religious > doctrine. The Henry County Historical Group, Inc. has an ongoing, > aggressive cemetery survey and marking program that is going very, > very well. Nearly 100 old cemeteries will be marked all across > Henry County. A marker has already been placed where I am > speaking about and reads, "Armstrong/Old Union Grove Cemetery." > To the best of my recollection from walking this old cemetery, the > Armstrong graves are poorly marked. > > Moses Armstrong's son Wade had a son, Aris Armstrong, who was a > Primitive Baptist preacher as well. Now, Aris Armstrong married > Delia Ann Arnold, daughter of Harrell Arnold and Sarah Mims. The > Arnold family were members of Piney Grove Primitive Baptist > through the years. There are seven Arnold graves at Piney Grove > including Harrell Arnold's wife Elizabeth. Harrell Arnold could > be there in an unmarked grave because he died in 1872 and had been > a member of Piney Grove since 1865. His death came during those > horrid years of Reconstruction in the South when the Radical > Republicans imposed nearly as much damage on our Southland as was > done during the War for Southern Independence (1861-1865). Money > was so scarce and tombstones were a real luxury so Harrell > Arnold’s grave could have gone unmarked due to the circumstances > that surrounded him while he was alive. > > If any of this strikes a cord with you, either family—Moses or > Thomas—please let me know and I will share what I have. Just to > remind other readers of this post, I am no kin to any of the > families aforementioned. I am just a “wanna-be” Henry County > historian! > Very Henry Countily Yours, > Steve > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/17/2006 12:30:18
    1. [ALHENRY] Can't We All Just Get Along??
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/3098 Message Board Post: I have always enjoyed researching my family history on this Henry County message board. It has been a such a great resource and it has been a joy to find distant cousins! However, recently, it seems to have become a media utilized for public disagreements. I have been afraid to post anything for fear of negative responses! I feel that if you have a problem with someone, rather than posting it publicly, please email them directly and not discuss it in this forum. I would rather not read arguments between others, as I feel this should be a private matter. Let's please all get along and be amicable with one another! I do apologize if this upsets anyone...I honestly don't mean to do so. Let's just please be nice to one another - we're all trying our best to do the same thing - research!

    09/17/2006 11:38:43
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] jesse ward place, lawrenceville, alabama, north of abbieville
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/3096.1 Message Board Post: Are you referring to Jesse Thomas Ward (b. March 12, 1905), son of Joseph M. Ward and Mary Elizabeth Clenney? He married Francis ? and had one daughter, Maribeth.

    09/17/2006 11:17:40
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] John Scott
    2. Lannie Walker
    3. M gr gr grandfather, John Scott married Nancy Kirkland in henry Co. in 1822. I have never been able to find any of his relatives in Henry Co. or in Virginia where he was born. I have wondered if he was related to Marvin Scott, whose widow wrote the Henry Co. History book. Anyone have any knowledge about this? Lannie Walker www.lanniewalker.com gnw@rose.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Armstrong, Helton, Kirkland >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3091.1 > >Message Board Post: > > >Elder Martin H. Armstrong, son of Moses, was born c1814 in SC and died after October 26, 1914 He married Sarah Kirkland, daughter of William Ransom and Dicey Helton Kirkland. > >

    09/17/2006 10:07:12
    1. [ALHENRY] SAMUEL JAMES & ARVASANA PARISH HICKS
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADI/3097 Message Board Post: What a mess! Everytime there is a posting it gets worse and worse. It is quite apparent to me, that the information posted about my gggrandparents Samuel J. and Arvasana Parish Hicks by one individual came directly from my story published in the Henry County History Book. The minute I read the posted info I knew where it came from. To indicate to others that you or someone else researched my family and came up with the information that was posted is inappropriate. I did place my story there for others to read but not to take credit for. I have two cousins I work with and it is possible that one of them gave the info. I don't have a problem with that. You even mentioned Hicks Road, which is named for my line of Hicks. "Farmed and raised their family." "Lived in Henry County until it was divided and became Houston County." I didn't even know that there was a Hicks Road until I met with relatives. You indicated nine children - for your info as far as I know only eight were theirs. I did mention John Nathan in my story. Had you or t! he individual you got the book info from done research you would have known that John Nathan did not appear on a 1860 census with my family but showed up in 1870. Making it questionable just who he was. You indicated my gggrandmother was called Zenie. As far as I know there is no one living that can verify that info. If anything she was probably called Annie as indicated on her headstone. To indicate they lived on Hicks Road is somewhat misleading. Hicks Road was not around when Samuel and Annie were living. From the posting "his name may be Samuel James Hicks." Again research would either confirm or deny his middle name was James. In the story I mentioned that his name could be spelled Hix and hers Parrish. I've spent many long hours at the library and courthouses researching Samuel and Annie. If I can't get to the courhouse I write and pay for copies of various documents. I debated several days about writing this posting and decided it needed to be said. When you copy info on families from the internet or from something someone sent you and spread it around all over the internet it makes for mass confusion. (It is possible I may have been guilty of this when I first started searching.} That is the reason you won't find a family tree at Ancestry.com on my line of Hicks. There is one tree that has Samuel, Noah, William and one other Hicks as siblings. There is absolutely no official document that has indicated they were siblings. How do you know the info I had in my story in the Henry County History Book is accurate? If I have offended anyone I apologize, but I needed to write this e-mail for my own peace of mind. I am aware that my stories have been copied from the three history books in that area - Henry, Houston and Dale County, because I've been contacted. I wrote my stories for these three history books to honor my ancestors. Jeanette Crane

    09/17/2006 09:48:36
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Stewart Alexander Money
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Money Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/2855.3 Message Board Post: Just as a point of interest, the given name of Alexander has been passed down through the descandants of James Cash Money, Sr./Jr. The present mayor of the Town of Haleburg is Roger Alexander Money who has done a great deal of Money family research and shares it in THE HERITAGE OF HENRY COUNTY, ALABAMA, by The Henry County Heritage Book Committee, 2002. Roger Alexander Money also had a first cousin, Alexander Money, son of Bryon Money who was killed in a trucking accident several years ago. The passing down of this name could indicate some kinship between Stewart Alexander Money and James Cash Money, Jr.'s since the name has come down in the names of the latter's descendants. Just a point to ponder. Steve Elliott Haleburg Historian

    09/17/2006 09:27:12
    1. Re: [ALHENRY] Vocations of our ancestors...
    2. Betty Vann
    3. Steve, Steve, Thank you for your very interesting and informative post. My ggrandfather John Calvin McKay and his father Dougald McKay were listed as mechanics in the 1860 census for Dale County. Ambrose Dean was also listed as a mechanic. They were listed one after another in the census. Do you happen to know what a mechanic's job would have been in 1860? Betty Vann -----Original Message----- From: alhenry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alhenry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jselliott@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:53 PM To: ALHENRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALHENRY] Vocations of our ancestors... This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADI/3089 Message Board Post: Friends of the Message Boards: In researching our families' history, the principle occupation on all census records before 1880 is usually listed as "farmer." But someone had to perform the many other tasks needed to keep folks moving along. It is my opinion that many of our farming ancestors had second jobs or side-lines to add to the family's income. While reading in Mrs. Marvin Scott's 1961 HISTORY OF HENRY COUNTY, ALABAMA on page 37 and 38 she listed the "vocations" of the people of early Henry County. I wanted to share them with you here and get some feedback if possible on exactly what these antiquated terms actually mean, that is, what was involved in doing these "vocations". They are: "Planters, carpenters, merchants, millwrights, blacksmiths, wheelwrights, cabinet makers, tailors, turners-who made chair frames and bottomed them with rawhide usually from hide off the face of a beef cow, makers of spinning wheels, whirls and reels and loom shuttles of red or black oak, millers, school teachers, shoemakers, hatters, slays, loom harness and shuttles, cotton presses and running gear to horse gins, some built wooden cotton presses and geared horn power to cotton gins, surveyors of land, stockmen, rock and brick masons, loom makers, and last but not least, later some were members of the militia, for protection against the Indians who were still here until 1838, for which they received no pay." In another paragraph she mentioned the vocation of overseer. From my studies, I have found that this was a good job, but was looked down upon by society because of the methods used by some overseers to keep the African slave labor workforce at work. Notice the different vocations that were related to the production of woolen and cotton cloth. Many was the pioneer home that had a large loom set up in the midst of the already overcrowded log houses of the day. Before steamboat travel reached a modicum of efficiency and before merchants in the "piney woods" carried any of the scarce and expense bolts of cloth of the era, this had to be produced on the farm, many times being sold to neighbors for additional cash flow until the crops could be harvested in the fall. Would really like to know more about the "wrights" of different types; "slays"; and "horn power". The latter two I had never heard of until I read Mrs. Scott's book. Where are all of these vocations in the census records? If you have any information concerning your ancestors being involved in any of these, please pass their names on to me as part of my continuing research of the history of Henry County. Just found these very interesting and thought they shed some light on the day-to-day lives of all of those bare and stark names and dates of folks on our family trees. Very Henry Countily Yours, Steve Elliott Afterthought: Mrs. Scott also states that there were NO cockroaches in Henry County when the early settlers came. At least that was one less pest out of many, many pests they had to deal with daily. Please forgive me if I am taking up valuable space on the Message Boards with posts such as this. I just feel it adds some "flesh" to the bare bones of the skeleton that is "the family tree."--Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALHENRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/17/2006 09:01:41