Sometime ago, a few of the lists were requesting background information or an introduction of each genealogists on the list. I am way behind and never did get my introduction to any of the lists. So here goes...:) I was destined to research my family's genealogy. I am a Yankee from outside of Detroit, Michigan. If you are a true Michigander then you refer to the shape of the state as the "Mitten". Most people just show the palm of their hand and point to where they are from or are now residing. This gets quite a few laughs from the Southern folk. You guessed it, my husband is a "red neck". At the age of seven I would make family trees and ask my grandmother to spell all the polish and german names for me. At that age those weird names could not have been in my vocabulary. I would sit for hours and love to listen to my grandmother 'Irene" tell stories about, "the old country". She talked about the War and how poor everyone was and that most people coming from Europe where looking for prosperity. I have most of my families heirlooms such as; wedding rings and watches with engravings of special events, clothing and toys. Are these considered proof or documentation of their lives? I was always given pictures by my mother and grandmother. Somehow I ended up with so much that they had to come over to my house in NC to copy all the information and pictures from me! My husbands family originated in NC, But I met him in Escambia Co., Milton, Florida. My mother is suppose to give me the family trunk to keep all my goodies in! Of course there is one other family member that wants the trunk, so I am sure there will be a family fued about it!! The kinds of information that was given to me at the age of 19: report cards, baptisms, cemetery records, pictures, postcards, church booklets, birth cert., death and marriage etc. I use to be called the junk collector of my family. I have learned to mix the new or modern with the old to display my treasures! I spend way to much time on my computer communicating with everyone on lists. I drive all my family members crazy with questions and probing to find out any tid bits that may get me one more generation back. My Aunt has more Census, birth, death and marriage certificates than I do--but I feel I have all the real good Momento's that you can't buy in a library, archives or county builiding. I really started to put my work on computer about three years ago. I am fairly new to this system. I use Family Tree Maker and am getting sick and tired of purchasing upgrades. I want to get a new computer, so I can put my entire genealogy to one CD, with pictures and all. My mother is down this week from Michigan to get copies of as much as she can for my brother (who never was interested before), incidently he wants the family trunk!!Ha! However, I will be sure to try my hardest to get it. :) I love to help anyone on the lists that need it. Anyone not on the list I will help to. I am not beyond called relatives and talking to them long enough until they give up some informaiton or family secrets. I will even attempt to talk with family members banished from the family long ago, call relatives no one likes, call ex-wives, ex-husbands or call anyone that the "family" knows have stolen bibles, picture albums, etc. Yes, I am addicted, aren't you??? Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

My Roll Call for the month of May: I am on approx. 21+ lists and this is the easiest way for me to post my Surnames to everyone!! BAGGET, BESEAU/BRISSON, BURROW, COLEMAN,DUDZICK, EMMERZA, EVANS, HAMMAC,HARRELL, HAWKINS, HOLLAND, KIRKLAND, LEMKE, LUTTMAN, MERRIT, MONK, PATYON, SHAW, STARZYK, STEELE, SYMASZECK, SZENISZEWSKA, THAMES, TRAWICK, WHITE Wayne Co., Mich St. Clair, Mich Escambia Co. Brewton, Al Escambia Co., Florida SC NC GA Tennessee Edgefield District, SC Henry Co, Al Conecuh Co., Al Ft. Walton, Fl (Santa Rosa Co.) Berlin, Germany Galacia, Poland Dover, NJ Rome, Indiana Detroit, Michigan **Many more.... Thanks, Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Seems to be some confusion about my post. There are more than one George Washington Hammac's One is married to a Jane Holland George : 1844-1899 Alabama The other is married to Mary Bagget. George : 1813-1893 born in GA and may be on TN Cenus, moved to Al. ***All of my husbands Kin, usually named their sons and grandson's with the same name. This leads to much confusion. Thanks, Lorie -----Original Message----- From: John R. Harrell <QSCV@twave.net> To: ALESCAMB-L@rootsweb.com <ALESCAMB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 8:42 PM Subject: George Washington Hammac 1844-1899 m. Jane Holland >Looking for any info on George W. Hammac that married Jane Holland. >George was born in 1844 and d. in 1899 and is buried at the Hammac Cemetery, >Pineview, Alabama. There is no information on Jane Holland. >Anyone researching the Holland surname from Alabama??? > >Lorie Harrell >QSCV@twave.net >

heheh...okay...one more....then I promise I'll shut up. Stephanie and others interested (if not hit your delete key NOW) :) Listowners manage the various lists that circulate on Rootsweb. I happen to manage this one. As "listowner" it is each individual's responsibility to add users who don't subscribe correctly, to delete individuals who don't unsubscribe correctly, and lastly to delete any users that we feel are "spamming" a list. It's a personal judgement call. I personally would contact an individual before I'd delete them from ALHenry-L for spamming to determine if it was a mistake or not. We're all human. Jeffrey ALHenry Listowner Josie3@aol.com wrote: > > I agree that this person should not be removed from the list because they > have been an active, interested participant. This mistake could indeed happen > to any of us, and I'm STILL not sure I know how to prevent it. Who makes the > decision to keep or throw out a person? > Stephanie

Lorie was not kicked off of this list. It is understandable that occassionaly, we all goof. But the best we can do is to keep the list on topic, so having said that.... Thanks to Keith for the recent Monk postings...I'm checking my database as I have info on Sarah Ham. Jeffrey ALHenry Listowner minder wrote: > > I vote that we give Lori Harrell another chance. This mistake could have > happened to any one of us. > > Ceya Minder > Reminder@snowhill.com > **************************************************************************** > ********** > Lori's explanation: > > At 09:36 AM 5/12/99 -0400, John R. Harrell wrote: > >I would like to apologize to everyone that received a spam from my e-mail. > >I just found out what a spam is the hard way!!! Before today I didn't know > >what a spam was??? > >I know you all think I'm stupid, but with three restuarants to run, a home > >and a teenager I don't have time to keep up on internet lingo. I received a > >joke about a "Cookie Recipe" from another genealogist and thought it was > >legitamate. However, I found out it was an old joke!! Joke was on me, > >because I was already kicked off the Alabama genealogy list for spamming > >faster than my head could spin. > >Hope everyone else doesn't fall into this trap. If anyone wants the e-mail > >to the person that did this to me, I would be glad to post. She may not > >have known either about this type of bad Joke. I have e-mailed her to see > >why she did it. > > > >The sad part is I had been helping all these sites for free, look-ups, free > >snail mail for folks that couldn't open files and free photo's at my > >expense. Not one time did I get to express what had happened to me before I > >was judge and hanged by a one person jury. The ax fell today! > >Thanks everyone for your help, > > > >Lorie Harrell > >QSCV@twave.net > > > >

I agree that this person should not be removed from the list because they have been an active, interested participant. This mistake could indeed happen to any of us, and I'm STILL not sure I know how to prevent it. Who makes the decision to keep or throw out a person? Stephanie

I vote that we give Lori Harrell another chance. This mistake could have happened to any one of us. Ceya Minder Reminder@snowhill.com **************************************************************************** ********** Lori's explanation: At 09:36 AM 5/12/99 -0400, John R. Harrell wrote: >I would like to apologize to everyone that received a spam from my e-mail. >I just found out what a spam is the hard way!!! Before today I didn't know >what a spam was??? >I know you all think I'm stupid, but with three restuarants to run, a home >and a teenager I don't have time to keep up on internet lingo. I received a >joke about a "Cookie Recipe" from another genealogist and thought it was >legitamate. However, I found out it was an old joke!! Joke was on me, >because I was already kicked off the Alabama genealogy list for spamming >faster than my head could spin. >Hope everyone else doesn't fall into this trap. If anyone wants the e-mail >to the person that did this to me, I would be glad to post. She may not >have known either about this type of bad Joke. I have e-mailed her to see >why she did it. > >The sad part is I had been helping all these sites for free, look-ups, free >snail mail for folks that couldn't open files and free photo's at my >expense. Not one time did I get to express what had happened to me before I >was judge and hanged by a one person jury. The ax fell today! >Thanks everyone for your help, > >Lorie Harrell >QSCV@twave.net > >

Thomas James Monk b. 1861 married Frances Kirkland Henry County Alabama Antimissa Monk b. 1840 Henry County Alabama m. Sidney Kirkland ( Son of Caleb Kirkland). He was the brother of Matthew Kirkland John Ira Monk b. 21 Dec 1850 Henry County Alabama m. Arrena Kirkland (Daughter of Levi Kirkland) William Riley Kirkland m.. Catherine Monk Daniel Jackson MONK ( Son of Richard & Alice Monk) m. Jewel Kirkland Daughter of J.D. Kirkland and Ola Shipp) more still MONK,-2216 ( ) Father Sanford MONK-2063 (-) Mother MONK, Andrew-2214 (M) Father Sanford MONK-2063 (-) Mother MONK, April Dawn-2493 (F) Father Lomax MONK Jr.-2371 (31 Jan 1954-) Mother Rita Darlene SALTER-2492 (-) MONK, Arthur-2065 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth 21 Sep 1892 Death 20 Oct 1963 in Alabama (age 71) MONK, Artimissa-1796 (F) Father Thomas MONK-1983 (-) Mother Elizabeth HAMBY-1984 (-) Birth 1840 in Henry County Alabama Spouse/Mate Sidney KIRKLAND-1794 Marriage 17 Dec 1867 in Henry County Alabama (age 27) MONK, Audrey-2207 (F) Father Councel MONK-2061 (-) Mother Nettie I. BAGETT-2202 (-) MONK, Catherine-1897 (F) Burial 1848 in Alabama Burial 1920 in Piney Grove Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery, Henry County Alabama Death 14 Jan 1920 in Henry County Alabama Spouse/Mate William Riley KIRKLAND-788 MONK, Councel-2061 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Nettie I. BAGETT-2202 MONK, Dennis Wayne-2357 (M) Father Wiley B. MONK-2212 (1916-) Mother Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 (-) Birth 22 Jul 1954 Spouse/Mate Ellen SKIPPER-2363 MONK, Dolly-2069 (F) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth 26 Nov 1896 in Conech County, Alabama Death 26 Apr 1975 in Conech County, Alabama (age 78) Spouse/Mate Thomas Edd SHIPP-2229 MONK, Gertude-2068 (F) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Shelby HODGE-2226 MONK, Gloria Francis-2370 (F) Father Lomax MONK Sr.-2213 (2 Jul 1924-) Mother Angilin BESIMONE-2366 (-) Birth 2 Jul 1950 Spouse/Mate Mack FORSYTH-2489 MONK, Hunter Woods-2501 (M) Father John Wiley MONK-2372 (4 Feb 1957-) Mother Susan Jane WOODS-2497 (-) MONK, J.C.-2211 (M) Father Wiley MONK-2062 (2 Nov 1883-22 Feb 1959) Mother Nettie CLARK-2208 (-) Birth 5 Jan 1913 Spouse/Mate Cynthia LEWIS-2350 MONK, Jacob Cody-2499 (M) Father John Wiley MONK-2372 (4 Feb 1957-) Mother Vanalissia Marie BRYANT-2496 (-) MONK, James Bryan-2498 (M) Father John Wiley MONK-2372 (4 Feb 1957-) Mother Vanalissia Marie BRYANT-2496 (-) MONK, Jan Charles-2351 (M) Father J.C. MONK-2211 (5 Jan 1913-) Mother Cynthia LEWIS-2350 (-) MONK, Janie Marie-2356 (F) Father Wiley B. MONK-2212 (1916-) Mother Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 (-) Birth 19 Nov 1952 Spouse/Mate Randy OLGETREE-2361 Spouse/Mate John MOSLEY-2362 MONK, Jennie-2205 (F) Father Councel MONK-2061 (-) Mother Nettie I. BAGETT-2202 (-) MONK, John-2059 (M) Father Thomas MONK-1983 (-) Mother Elizabeth HAMBY-1984 (-) Spouse/Mate Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 MONK, John Ervin-2066 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Carla RABON-2217 MONK, John Wiley-2372 (M) Father Lomax MONK Sr.-2213 (2 Jul 1924-) Mother Angilin BESIMONE-2366 (-) Birth 4 Feb 1957 Spouse/Mate Vanalissia Marie BRYANT-2496 Marriage Spouse/Mate Susan Jane WOODS-2497 MONK, Justin Chase-2495 (M) Father Lomax MONK Jr.-2371 (31 Jan 1954-) Mother Rita Darlene SALTER-2492 (-) MONK, Levi-2206 (M) Father Councel MONK-2061 (-) Mother Nettie I. BAGETT-2202 (-) MONK, Loma Annette-2369 (F) Father Lomax MONK Sr.-2213 (2 Jul 1924-) Mother Angilin BESIMONE-2366 (-) Birth 12 Oct 1946 Spouse/Mate Larry Zoma COVIN-2484 Marriage 7 Jan 1966 (age 19) MONK, Lomax Sr.-2213 (M) Father Wiley MONK-2062 (2 Nov 1883-22 Feb 1959) Mother Nettie CLARK-2208 (-) Birth 2 Jul 1924 in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Angilin BESIMONE-2366 MONK, Lomax Jr.-2371 (M) Father Lomax MONK Sr.-2213 (2 Jul 1924-) Mother Angilin BESIMONE-2366 (-) Birth 31 Jan 1954 Spouse/Mate Rita Darlene SALTER-2492 MONK, Lomax Brandon-2494 (M) Father Lomax MONK Jr.-2371 (31 Jan 1954-) Mother Rita Darlene SALTER-2492 (-) MONK, Marcert-2215 (F) Father Sanford MONK-2063 (-) Mother MONK, Michael-2360 (M) Father Wiley B. MONK-2212 (1916-) Mother Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 (-) Birth 11 May 1964 Spouse/Mate Lisa COOPER-2365 MONK, Oscar-2060 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth 1878 MONK, Patrecia-2352 (F) Father J.C. MONK-2211 (5 Jan 1913-) Mother Cynthia LEWIS-2350 (-) MONK, Ralph-2218 (M) Father John Ervin MONK-2066 (-) Mother Carla RABON-2217 (-) MONK, Sanford-2063 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Unknown-28 MONK, Sarah-2067 (F) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth abt 1884 in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Edd UPTAGRAFTT-2219 Spouse/Mate BROOKS-2223 MONK, Stevie Ray-2358 (M) Father Wiley B. MONK-2212 (1916-) Mother Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 (-) Birth 2 Aug 1958 Death 26 Jan 1959 (age 0) MONK, Thomas-1983 (M) Spouse/Mate Elizabeth HAMBY-1984 MONK, Tina Louise-2359 (F) Father Wiley B. MONK-2212 (1916-) Mother Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 (-) Birth 25 May 1962 Spouse/Mate Donnie REED-2364 MONK, Tommy-2064 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth in Conech County, Alabama MONK, Valerie-2373 (F) Father Lomax MONK Sr.-2213 (2 Jul 1924-) Mother Angilin BESIMONE-2366 (-) Birth 23 Sep 1963 Spouse/Mate Richard Lawrence BROWN-2502 MONK, Wiley-2062 (M) Father John MONK-2059 (-) Mother Arrenia KIRKLAND-1962 (25 Feb 1859-29 Apr 1939) Birth 2 Nov 1883 in Conech County, Alabama Burial 1959 in Cedar Creek Cemetery (East of Castleberry), Alabama (age 76) Death 22 Feb 1959 in Alabama (age 75) Spouse/Mate Nettie CLARK-2208 Marriage 10 Apr 1912 (age 28) MONK, Wiley B.-2212 (M) Father Wiley MONK-2062 (2 Nov 1883-22 Feb 1959) Mother Nettie CLARK-2208 (-) Birth 1916 in Conech County, Alabama Spouse/Mate Mary Louisa SMITH-2353 Marriage 29 Sep 1950 (age 34)

More to come Family Group Record ============================================ Husband: John MONK - ----------------------------------------- Father: Thomas MONK Mother: Elizabeth HAMBY =============================================== Wife: Arrenia KIRKLAND - ---------------------------------------------- Birth: 25 Feb 1859 Death: 29 Apr 1939 Father: Levi KIRKLAND (b 9 Feb 1827) Mother: Sarah HAMM ================================================= Children ================================================= 1 M Oscar MONK Birth: 1878 - ------------------------------------------------ 2 M Councel MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Nettie I. BAGETT - ------------------------------------------------ 3 M Wiley MONK Birth: 2 Nov 1883 Conech County, Alabama Burial: 1959 Cedar Creek Cemetery (East of Castleberr Death: 22 Feb 1959 Alabama Spouse: Nettie CLARK (m 10 Apr 1912) - ------------------------------------------------ 4 M Sanford MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: - ------------------------------------------------ 5 M Tommy MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama - ------------------------------------------------ 6 M Arthur MONK Birth: 21 Sep 1892 Death: 20 Oct 1963 Alabama - ------------------------------------------------ 7 M John Ervin MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Carla RABON - ------------------------------------------------ 8 F Sarah MONK Birth: abt 1884 Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Edd UPTAGRAFTT Spouse: BROOKS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 9 F Gertude MONK Birth: Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Shelby HODGE - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 10 F Dolly MONK Birth: 26 Nov 1896 Conech County, Alabama Death: 26 Apr 1975 Conech County, Alabama Spouse: Thomas Edd SHIPP ========================================================== Prepared 12 May 1999 by: R. Keith Hale P.O. Box 2022 Woodville, Texas 75979 409-283-3253 >Jim, > >The children for Joshua and Lydia I have are: >Josiah b. 1816 SC >Elizabeth Monk b. 1820 SC >Jermiah (Ira) Monk b. 1821 SC >Thomas Monk b. 1822 > >Children of Thomas Monk and Elizabeth Hamby >Gracey C. Monk born 1857, in Henry Co., Al >Thomas James (jim) Monk born 1861 in Henry Co., Al m. Francis Kirkalnd >Ella Monk b. 1870 in Henry Co., Al m. Henry Jackson Harrell ***My direct >line. >Ann Monk Born 1864 in Henry Co. >Antimissa Monk b. 1840 in Henry Co. m. Sidney Kirkland (son of Caleb >Kirkland). Caleb was born in 1842 in Henry Co. and is the brother to >Matthew Kirkland. > Children of >Antimisaa & Sidney >Lorence, Chimero, Ardelia, Alzada, Iola, Nathon, Ellie, Albert, Peyton and >Docie. >John Ira Monk born 12/21/1850 in Henry Co. m Arrena Kirkland (Arrena is the >daughter of Levia Kirkland of Henry Co.,) > >My question is Caleb and Matthew Kirkland's father is who? >Arrena is Levi Kirklands daughter, how is related to Kirkland Line? >How are all these people related to Lydia and Aaron Kirkland SR. from >Edgefield District, SC? >Is Aaron the great uncle to Matthew and Caleb? >Where does that leave Levi and Arrena? > >Lorie Harrell >QSCV@twave.net >PS. Before anyone gets upset and says why is she posting to this list. My >people that I am researching have lived in many different states and >Counties. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >To: 'John R. Harrell' <QSCV@twave.net> >Cc: 'crawfish@worldnetla.net' <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:44 PM >Subject: RE: CRAWFISH - INTRO > > >>Hi Lorie, >> >>Right on. I believe this is the Joshua. From the info that I've seen, he >>appears only in the 1830 AL census in Bibb County, and I recall no Monks in >>the 1840 AL census index (although something might be missing). However, >>Lydia appears in 1850 Henry Co., as do Josiah, Thomas, and Uriah (likely >>sons of Joshua and Lydia). Along with Lydia in 1860, appear Jeremiah, >>Josiah, Thomas, and Thomas R. in Henry Co. It's been some time since I >>looked at this line, but Joshua was listed 50-60 years in 1830, while Lydia >>was 40-50. Therefore able to determine birth year within a ten-year span. >> Listed also were seven other males (sons?) and three females (daughters?). >> Two males and one female listed 20-30, three males 15-20, one male and one >>female 10-15, one male and one female 5-10. One may, thereby, determine >>possible timeframe for marriage and refine approximate birth years. As I >>said previously, because of the fact that Joshua and Isaac were both in >>Bibb Co. in 1830; were likely both from Edgefield Dist., SC; were both near >>in age; I would reckon that a close relationship existed between the two. >> I have somewhere settled on 1797 as Isaac's birth year, and (working from >>memory now) I believe I somehow approximated Joshua's birth year to 1780. >> I'll need to check that further. I know that Isaac had moved to >>Natchitoches Parish, LA by the 1840 census, but I do find it strange that >>neither Joshua nor Lydia appear in an 1840 census, not only AL but any >>other I've seen. They might have been in process of moving from Bibb to >>Henry at the time and simply have been missed for that reason. >> >>Any rate, you might want to post Joshua to the group. I know Nancy Watkins >>is a descendant of that line, and I think there are others who are >>researching it. Nancy also has a cousin who hasn't signed on with the >>group but who is also working that line. Hopefully we will, after a time, >>come away somewhat wiser on many of these folks than we were in the begi >>nning. >> >>Regards, >>Jim >> >> >> >>On Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:39 AM, John R. Harrell [SMTP:QSCV@twave.net] >>wrote: >>> Jimmie, >>> >>> I have a Joshua Monk who married Lydia Kirkland. Both are from Edgefield >>> District, SC and moved to Henry Co. around 1800's . Could this be the >>> Joshua? >>> >>> Lorie >>> qscv@twave.net >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >>> To: James Arnett <jarnett@flash.net>; Brenda Burton >>> <brendamozleyburton@usa.net>; Lottie <punkin1@etex.net>; Lorie Harrell >>> <QSCV@twave.net>; David Henderson <david_hndrsn@hotmail.com>; Kirk Keitha >>> <KKirk6@aol.com>; Long Glen <glong@juno.com>; Charles S. Miller >>> <malden@islc.net>; Monk Barb <CBJKC@aol.com>; Bob Monk >><rcm4me@yahoo.com>; >>> Monk Gary <monk@jps.net>; Monk Jimmie D. <crawfish@worldnetla.net>; Jean >>> Niemeyer <LdySearchr@aol.com>; Otto Teresa <AFOTTO@prodigy.net>; Parker >>> David <DaveOahu@aol.com>; Donald Piserchio >><doorpiserchio@mindspring.com>; >>> Reisner Nena <Dreisner1@aol.com>; Ryman Betty <dryman@sat.net>; Scott >>Grace >>> <grace-scott@email.msn.com>; Alexis Smith <LEX051EE@aol.com>; Watkins >>Nancy >>> <WAWNEW@worldnet.att.net> >>> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 9:26 PM >>> Subject: CRAWFISH - INTRO >>> >>> >>> >Dear Family and Friends, >>> > >>> >I am Jimmie D. Monk (Jim) of Lacamp, Vernon Parish, LA. I was born >>> >December 28, 1949 to Fred Marcus and Venson (Miller) Monk. I retired >>from >>> >the US Navy in 1991 after 20+ years as a naval cryptologist. Since that >>> >time I have mostly taught school at the small, rural high school from >>which >>> >I graduated many moons ago. I teach Social Studies (American History, >>> >World History, and World Geography), English III, and variously French >>or >>> >Spanish. I became interested in genealogical research after having >>> >attended several family reunions and realized that too little was known >>> >about our family. After some reflection, I also realized that I was >>not >>> >doing my part to change that. With some infectiously inspirational >>> >encouragement from a relative, Betty (Monk)Ryman (who has contributed so >>> >much to providing a sound basis from which to work), I decided it was >>time >>> >to give it a whirl. I feel that we've made immense headway in a short >>> >time, and, although we remain stumped at the stage of our >>ggggrandfather, >>> >we have learned so much about other members/lines of the Monk family, >>many >>> >(or perhaps all) of whom we expect to eventually converge and we will >>> >finally be able to stand back and look at a clear and complete picture. >> We >>> >do intend to end our research, however, when we have reached Adam and >>Eve. >>> > >>> > >>> >As I said, Betty and I are presently stumped at our ggggrandfather, >>Isaac >>> >Monk, who first appears in a land patent in Autauga Co., AL in 1823. He >>> >next appears in the 1830 Bibb Co., AL Census Index. Also listed there >>is >>> >Joshua Monk whose family later appears in Henry Co., AL. Because of >>> >proximity, I tend to assume a close relationship between these two men. >>> > Isaac then appears in the 1840 and 1850 Natchitoches Parish, LA census >>> >listings and then disappears. Census records indicate that he was born >>in >>> >SC; family tradition favors Edgefield District for place of birth. I >>have >>> >a large file of Isaac's line should anyone wish to see it. I tried to >>> >attach it to this message in a format probably readable to all but kept >>> >bombing my e-mail program. Will need to experiment a bit. >>> > >>> >I also have a fairly complete file on one Merrill Monk <1840 GA>1840 >>> >Chambers Co., AL>1860 Claiborne Parish, LA. Since I could find no one >>else >>> >working on this line, I adopted it. Should anyone be interested in this >>> >file I'll gladly send it along. Very recent information I received from >>> >Don Piserchio, via Betty Ryman, indicates that Merrill and his siblings >>> >(Ann, William, James, Polly, and Silas) were the children of Robert and >>> >Christiana (Flowers) Monk of GA. This source also indicates that Robert >>> >was likely the son of Jonathan Monk, R.S. and Mary (Popwell) Monk, >>> >variously of NC>SC>NC. Jonathan was likely the son of John Monk, >>probably >>> >b. England, who married (1) Mary ? and (2) Frances Hodges, although >>there >>> >were perhaps more wives. John was apparently in NC by 1723 and in >>Johnston >>> >Co., NC by 1746. He had three unknown daughters and three sons >>(probably >>> >Jonathan, Willis, and Silas). This Silas, Sr. then becomes an entirely >>> >different story as grand ancestor of a large line of his own, numerous >>of >>> >the men of which also bore the name Silas. >>> > >>> >Aside from these two, I have a great deal of variously well-connected >>data >>> >and a pile of unconnected stuff on numerous members of the Monk name. >>> > >>> >Allied surnames I am working on: Foshee, Gordy, Jowers, and Cooley. >>> > >>> >Other surnames I am researching: Miller, Welch, Spurgeon, Chism, Burns, >>> >Coody, and Peavy. >>> > >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> >Jim >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >______________________________

Lorie, Don't fell bad, I too have done the same thing, thinking it was legit and it wasn't and like you not knowing important things about the mail lists......and people sent me some really mean messages, I couldn't believe how mean telling me how stupid I was and didn't deserve to be online and lots of things I couldn't believe they were so vicious.............some folks just don't have any class or forgiveness in them......ya know everybody makes mistakes and they make more than just once in life.....don't let it get you down and try and get the red out of your face.......it wasn't a horrible mistakes just a minor one.......even though some folks don't treat it that way....it will be ok..........My head can still turn red just thinking about what all they said to me and that wasn't necessary..........just a simple no no with an explanation would do just fine My husbands Great Grandma was Elizabeth Harrell born 8-19-1854 in Camilla, Baker co., Ga married to William Culpepper born 9-2--1846 in unknown they were married 11-19-1874 in Beulah church in Henry Co., alabama (see how I made this genealogy-related so noone would be mad at me) Anyway just wanted you to know there are other people out there like you ( I am way grown too with a short online vocabulary and I don't spell good either....but I don't care....I try hard to do good and that's what counts) Also I get the Alabama Mail List and I will gladly forward it to you if you would like......Let me know. Vicki McGlaun Culpepper McGlaughon/McGlauhon/McGlohon/McGlaun Mail List Owner I<< I would like to apologize to everyone that received a spam from my e-mail. I just found out what a spam is the hard way!!! Before today I didn't know what a spam was??? I know you all think I'm stupid, but with three restuarants to run, a home and a teenager I don't have time to keep up on internet lingo. I received a joke about a "Cookie Recipe" from another genealogist and thought it was legitamate. However, I found out it was an old joke!! Joke was on me, because I was already kicked off the Alabama genealogy list for spamming faster than my head could spin. Hope everyone else doesn't fall into this trap. If anyone wants the e-mail to the person that did this to me, I would be glad to post. She may not have known either about this type of bad Joke. I have e-mailed her to see why she did it. The sad part is I had been helping all these sites for free, look-ups, free snail mail for folks that couldn't open files and free photo's at my expense. Not one time did I get to express what had happened to me before I was judge and hanged by a one person jury. The ax fell today! Thanks everyone for your help, Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

I would like to apologize to everyone that received a spam from my e-mail. I just found out what a spam is the hard way!!! Before today I didn't know what a spam was??? I know you all think I'm stupid, but with three restuarants to run, a home and a teenager I don't have time to keep up on internet lingo. I received a joke about a "Cookie Recipe" from another genealogist and thought it was legitamate. However, I found out it was an old joke!! Joke was on me, because I was already kicked off the Alabama genealogy list for spamming faster than my head could spin. Hope everyone else doesn't fall into this trap. If anyone wants the e-mail to the person that did this to me, I would be glad to post. She may not have known either about this type of bad Joke. I have e-mailed her to see why she did it. The sad part is I had been helping all these sites for free, look-ups, free snail mail for folks that couldn't open files and free photo's at my expense. Not one time did I get to express what had happened to me before I was judge and hanged by a one person jury. The ax fell today! Thanks everyone for your help, Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Jim, The children for Joshua and Lydia I have are: Josiah b. 1816 SC Elizabeth Monk b. 1820 SC Jermiah (Ira) Monk b. 1821 SC Thomas Monk b. 1822 Children of Thomas Monk and Elizabeth Hamby Gracey C. Monk born 1857, in Henry Co., Al Thomas James (jim) Monk born 1861 in Henry Co., Al m. Francis Kirkalnd Ella Monk b. 1870 in Henry Co., Al m. Henry Jackson Harrell ***My direct line. Ann Monk Born 1864 in Henry Co. Antimissa Monk b. 1840 in Henry Co. m. Sidney Kirkland (son of Caleb Kirkland). Caleb was born in 1842 in Henry Co. and is the brother to Matthew Kirkland. Children of Antimisaa & Sidney Lorence, Chimero, Ardelia, Alzada, Iola, Nathon, Ellie, Albert, Peyton and Docie. John Ira Monk born 12/21/1850 in Henry Co. m Arrena Kirkland (Arrena is the daughter of Levia Kirkland of Henry Co.,) My question is Caleb and Matthew Kirkland's father is who? Arrena is Levi Kirklands daughter, how is related to Kirkland Line? How are all these people related to Lydia and Aaron Kirkland SR. from Edgefield District, SC? Is Aaron the great uncle to Matthew and Caleb? Where does that leave Levi and Arrena? Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net PS. Before anyone gets upset and says why is she posting to this list. My people that I am researching have lived in many different states and Counties. -----Original Message----- From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> To: 'John R. Harrell' <QSCV@twave.net> Cc: 'crawfish@worldnetla.net' <crawfish@worldnetla.net> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:44 PM Subject: RE: CRAWFISH - INTRO >Hi Lorie, > >Right on. I believe this is the Joshua. From the info that I've seen, he >appears only in the 1830 AL census in Bibb County, and I recall no Monks in >the 1840 AL census index (although something might be missing). However, >Lydia appears in 1850 Henry Co., as do Josiah, Thomas, and Uriah (likely >sons of Joshua and Lydia). Along with Lydia in 1860, appear Jeremiah, >Josiah, Thomas, and Thomas R. in Henry Co. It's been some time since I >looked at this line, but Joshua was listed 50-60 years in 1830, while Lydia >was 40-50. Therefore able to determine birth year within a ten-year span. > Listed also were seven other males (sons?) and three females (daughters?). > Two males and one female listed 20-30, three males 15-20, one male and one >female 10-15, one male and one female 5-10. One may, thereby, determine >possible timeframe for marriage and refine approximate birth years. As I >said previously, because of the fact that Joshua and Isaac were both in >Bibb Co. in 1830; were likely both from Edgefield Dist., SC; were both near >in age; I would reckon that a close relationship existed between the two. > I have somewhere settled on 1797 as Isaac's birth year, and (working from >memory now) I believe I somehow approximated Joshua's birth year to 1780. > I'll need to check that further. I know that Isaac had moved to >Natchitoches Parish, LA by the 1840 census, but I do find it strange that >neither Joshua nor Lydia appear in an 1840 census, not only AL but any >other I've seen. They might have been in process of moving from Bibb to >Henry at the time and simply have been missed for that reason. > >Any rate, you might want to post Joshua to the group. I know Nancy Watkins >is a descendant of that line, and I think there are others who are >researching it. Nancy also has a cousin who hasn't signed on with the >group but who is also working that line. Hopefully we will, after a time, >come away somewhat wiser on many of these folks than we were in the begi >nning. > >Regards, >Jim > > > >On Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:39 AM, John R. Harrell [SMTP:QSCV@twave.net] >wrote: >> Jimmie, >> >> I have a Joshua Monk who married Lydia Kirkland. Both are from Edgefield >> District, SC and moved to Henry Co. around 1800's . Could this be the >> Joshua? >> >> Lorie >> qscv@twave.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jimmie D. Monk <crawfish@worldnetla.net> >> To: James Arnett <jarnett@flash.net>; Brenda Burton >> <brendamozleyburton@usa.net>; Lottie <punkin1@etex.net>; Lorie Harrell >> <QSCV@twave.net>; David Henderson <david_hndrsn@hotmail.com>; Kirk Keitha >> <KKirk6@aol.com>; Long Glen <glong@juno.com>; Charles S. Miller >> <malden@islc.net>; Monk Barb <CBJKC@aol.com>; Bob Monk ><rcm4me@yahoo.com>; >> Monk Gary <monk@jps.net>; Monk Jimmie D. <crawfish@worldnetla.net>; Jean >> Niemeyer <LdySearchr@aol.com>; Otto Teresa <AFOTTO@prodigy.net>; Parker >> David <DaveOahu@aol.com>; Donald Piserchio ><doorpiserchio@mindspring.com>; >> Reisner Nena <Dreisner1@aol.com>; Ryman Betty <dryman@sat.net>; Scott >Grace >> <grace-scott@email.msn.com>; Alexis Smith <LEX051EE@aol.com>; Watkins >Nancy >> <WAWNEW@worldnet.att.net> >> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 9:26 PM >> Subject: CRAWFISH - INTRO >> >> >> >Dear Family and Friends, >> > >> >I am Jimmie D. Monk (Jim) of Lacamp, Vernon Parish, LA. I was born >> >December 28, 1949 to Fred Marcus and Venson (Miller) Monk. I retired >from >> >the US Navy in 1991 after 20+ years as a naval cryptologist. Since that >> >time I have mostly taught school at the small, rural high school from >which >> >I graduated many moons ago. I teach Social Studies (American History, >> >World History, and World Geography), English III, and variously French >or >> >Spanish. I became interested in genealogical research after having >> >attended several family reunions and realized that too little was known >> >about our family. After some reflection, I also realized that I was >not >> >doing my part to change that. With some infectiously inspirational >> >encouragement from a relative, Betty (Monk)Ryman (who has contributed so >> >much to providing a sound basis from which to work), I decided it was >time >> >to give it a whirl. I feel that we've made immense headway in a short >> >time, and, although we remain stumped at the stage of our >ggggrandfather, >> >we have learned so much about other members/lines of the Monk family, >many >> >(or perhaps all) of whom we expect to eventually converge and we will >> >finally be able to stand back and look at a clear and complete picture. > We >> >do intend to end our research, however, when we have reached Adam and >Eve. >> > >> > >> >As I said, Betty and I are presently stumped at our ggggrandfather, >Isaac >> >Monk, who first appears in a land patent in Autauga Co., AL in 1823. He >> >next appears in the 1830 Bibb Co., AL Census Index. Also listed there >is >> >Joshua Monk whose family later appears in Henry Co., AL. Because of >> >proximity, I tend to assume a close relationship between these two men. >> > Isaac then appears in the 1840 and 1850 Natchitoches Parish, LA census >> >listings and then disappears. Census records indicate that he was born >in >> >SC; family tradition favors Edgefield District for place of birth. I >have >> >a large file of Isaac's line should anyone wish to see it. I tried to >> >attach it to this message in a format probably readable to all but kept >> >bombing my e-mail program. Will need to experiment a bit. >> > >> >I also have a fairly complete file on one Merrill Monk <1840 GA>1840 >> >Chambers Co., AL>1860 Claiborne Parish, LA. Since I could find no one >else >> >working on this line, I adopted it. Should anyone be interested in this >> >file I'll gladly send it along. Very recent information I received from >> >Don Piserchio, via Betty Ryman, indicates that Merrill and his siblings >> >(Ann, William, James, Polly, and Silas) were the children of Robert and >> >Christiana (Flowers) Monk of GA. This source also indicates that Robert >> >was likely the son of Jonathan Monk, R.S. and Mary (Popwell) Monk, >> >variously of NC>SC>NC. Jonathan was likely the son of John Monk, >probably >> >b. England, who married (1) Mary ? and (2) Frances Hodges, although >there >> >were perhaps more wives. John was apparently in NC by 1723 and in >Johnston >> >Co., NC by 1746. He had three unknown daughters and three sons >(probably >> >Jonathan, Willis, and Silas). This Silas, Sr. then becomes an entirely >> >different story as grand ancestor of a large line of his own, numerous >of >> >the men of which also bore the name Silas. >> > >> >Aside from these two, I have a great deal of variously well-connected >data >> >and a pile of unconnected stuff on numerous members of the Monk name. >> > >> >Allied surnames I am working on: Foshee, Gordy, Jowers, and Cooley. >> > >> >Other surnames I am researching: Miller, Welch, Spurgeon, Chism, Burns, >> >Coody, and Peavy. >> > >> > >> >Regards, >> >Jim >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

Is there a marriage index for Henry Co. If so could some a look up for me for the marriage of William Burl Smith and Ellafair they married about 1878. Thank you Janie

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While trying to fix a broken link on one of my genweb pages found this page for webrings of African American genealogy. Thought some of you might be interested. http://afamgenealogy.ourfamily.com/ Deborah Byrd

Looking for the parents of Mary Bagget born 1814 in Ga. and d. 1890 Al. She is buried at Pollard Cemetery, Escambia Co. She married George Washington Hammac b. 1813- d. 1893. He may be in the GA or Tennesse Census. He is also buried at Pollard Cemetery Children: John Roy Thomas 1836, Mazill 1839, George Washington 1844, Jesse 1843, Soloman Wadkins 1845, Robert 1847, Mary E. 1847 and Martha A. 1853 Would like to connect with the Bagget side of the family. Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Looking for any information or connections to John Evans born 1802 that married Nancy______? born 1813 Children: Only have one son listed, sure there is more! George Columbus Evans 1847 Reported that John Evans may be from either GA or NC?? Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Looking for any info on George W. Hammac that married Jane Holland. George was born in 1844 and d. in 1899 and is buried at the Hammac Cemetery, Pineview, Alabama. There is no information on Jane Holland. Anyone researching the Holland surname from Alabama??? Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Benjamin Merrit 1794 born in NC died 1877 Brewton, Al married Susan Coleman daughter of James Coleman and Mary Thames born in Louisian approx. 1770's. Benjamin Merrit & Susan Coleman Children: Margaret Jane Merrit 1838 married Joshua S. Hammac born 1832 There children are as follows: Susanna 1865, Jesse manuel 1867, George W. 1869, Ellen S. 1876, Mary 1852, Martha Elizabeth 1862, Joshua S. Hammac III 1863, John H. 1872, henry J. 1874 and M.J. 1879 (Not in Order) Looking for any information on the Merrit, Coleman and Thames Surnames for NC, Al and Louisiana. Thanks for everyone patience with all these long posts. Lorie Harrell QSCV@twave.net

Looking for anyone with information on a Nancy Burrow that married Joshua S. Hammac Sr. 1805-1890. He was born in GA and died in Brewton, Al Children: Thomas 1824, Joshua S. 1832, George W. 1834, Willonbly 1838, Ellinder 1842, Henry ?, Lavina 1848, Robert 1849, Louisa 1852 and W.B. 1860 Looking for anyone with information on the Burrow surname from Brewton, Al or Escambia Co., Al.