Scott Scheibe wrote: > David has said most > of his database comes from the Ancestral File, which I know is no more > accurate than what gets put in it. > Correction to your assumption. Ancestral File data I have are mostly through female lines and they made up very small percent. Most of the data I have came from early Archives records which are NOT to be confused with the Ancestral File. The archive records had sources listed and many were only 1-4 generations away from the submitters themselves. And a considerable part of the database came from my family (6 generations of them who were in Oregon since 1852). W. David Samuelsen