Hi Alice and All: I too have the Mendon, MA Vital Records, plus Milford, History of Milford, and uxbridge, in case somebody needs a look up. I anotate my books, so know if someone is Rev War (provided in the DAR Patriot Index), etc. Alison

Hi Again, I do have the Vital Records of Mendon, Ma. .. and would be happy to do any look-up for anyone on the list.. for Aldrich or other names.. Alice alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

Hi All, Before the hoildays, I had been receiving quite a few message in my box . asking me " How to preserve documents" , the best way to document sources and etc.. We have a Cuz on this list, Sue Roe, that has " Genealogy Recipes" which she has shared on other list.. Sue I was wondering if you would share some of your "RECIPES" with our Aldrich cousins?? It may help many of us, but especially the newbees, to genealogy, to not make the same mistakes we have made and many of us still make. I know I had put some very rare one of a kind old picture in a magnetic page album and now they are all stuck to the cardborad.. worst than if I had glued them. and I learned from my error, the hard way. so probably we can help others not to make the same mistakes.. I have mislaid the letters I received but Presevation of Documents, Records & Photographs, would be a good place to start and any other recipes you care to share with us.. I was also asked if laminating a record preserves it??? Thanks Sue, know I asked you awhile back if you would share with us, after the Holidays, and you said "you'd be happy too!" It's after the holidays :) Cuz Alice alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

Hi Alice and Aldrich cousins, Thanks for posting this info. Alice. I have access to Dorcester VR's and will check this out--get back to you if there are any discrepancies. Perhaps what you posted was Mendon VR's for other Aldriches--not necessarily George's children? On conversion of dates--use caution!! Better to interpret but not convert. Old calendar is 2 months off. Here's an example: Date in record-- 14 (10) 1666 This would be-- 14 Dec 1666 If you convert to new calendar, you will have 13 Oct 1666, and the person is now born in the wrong month. Not a good idea! Problem comes in when the date is at end of year: Date in record-- 14 (12) 1666 This would be-- 14 Feb and usually is written as 14 Feb 1666/67. Sometimes when people do this incorrectly, our ancestors end up born in the wrong year. Too bad we can't just leave the dates alone--Unfortunately, most computer genealogy programs won't allow us to enter the old style date. My advise is study up and practice and be sure you interpret correctly! But don't convert to new calendar. Sue Roe In a message dated 98-01-01 20:29:39 EST, alicep@ma.ultranet.com writes: << Dear Lin Sue and all Cuz's. Happy 1998 to all: I can't recall posting VR'S from Mendon, for children of George & Catherine.. None of the births took place in Mendon, Ma. However, Harl Aldrich's " A Branch of the Aldrich Family in America,- 1969 and GAG . Vol 1; do have dates and Harl has sources on the children's births: Harl's Gen. says: from GAG; These children were b. in Dorchester, Suffolk, Ma. Abel. b. Jun 1663 Joseph b. 4 Jun 1635; Mary b. 16 Jun 1637 Miriam b. 29 Jun 1639; d. 10 Mar. 1651; (b. Dorchester; d. Braintree) Experience b. 4 Sep. 1641; d. 2 Feb 1642; ( b. d. Braintree) You have Mattithiah , b. 5th mo. 10th 1656. and they have : Martha b. 10 July 1656; Lin's Braintree records: Miriam Aldridg the daughter of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe dyed the 1 mo. 10th. 1651. p. 641: John Aldridg, the sone of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (2) (2) 1644.. Sarah Aldridg, the duaghter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (16) (11) 1645. Peter Aldridg, the sone of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (14) (2) 1648. Mercy Aldridg, the daughter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (17) (4) 1650. Jacob Aldridg, the son of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (28) (12) 1652. Mattithiah Aldridg, the daughter of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the 5th mo. 10th 1656. Making 11 children as I believe to be correct.. According to your VR'S; AJ'S - GAG is off a year on Sarah; says b. 16 Jan. 1646 and the VR says 1645: Probably should be 1645/46?? Does anyone have the Dorchester, VR'S for these births?? These VR's and dates are a good example of The OLD calendar "Julian" and the NEW calendar was the "Gregorian". I myself, have a hard time changing the dates, as seems to have been done in the past here in George's family. Do we have a expert on the list to help us whether these date have been changed correctly??? as most of us have been copying from AJ or other Genealogies.. Thanks Lin, for sharing, as we all know the VR'S, in this case, would be the Primary source. Any Help here with the calender changed dates??? Alice alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts" >>

Some of you have already seen the old and altered message about the Internet service access charges with the date of Feb 13, 1998 (altered from 1998). I searched high and low for information and I turned to my ISP server owners this evening (yes they work like crazy on holidays) and got the very clear answer and it is same information I have seen at FCC. What my server owner said summarized and very clear what is at issue.... here is his reply.... All business telephone customers are going to have to start paying additional fees for the Universal Service Fund and for local access charges. In Utah, residential customers with more than two lines will also have to pay these charges. Neither of these is specific to ISP's and neither is charged per minute. It ends up being around $3 per month per line. The local access charges are increasing because the access charges long-distance companies pay to local telcos are being decreased, resulting in a multi-million dollar revenue reduction. In effect, costs are being shifted from a charge hidden in your long distance bill to a direct charge that you can see. The Universal Service Fund fees are going up to pay for connecting all schools and libraries to the Internet. I don't know of any per-minute charges being contemplated for POTS.. US West seems to be backing away from that idea, given that they own an ISP. Most other RBOCS are also backing away from per-minute charges as they realize the public dislike for that. There is some hope, BTW. I went to a meeting a few weeks ago with US West and some other ISP's. We wanted to meet with US West to discuss some of these regulatory issues and to offer some suggestions for dealing with the "call blocking" problem that is cropping up downtown. US West appears to be changing their position on number of issues in ways that are more favorable to ISP's. Maybe it has dawned on them that ISP's are good customers that order a lot of services. If they're nice to us they could make a lot of money from us. (downtown - referred to Salt Lake City downtown district) ------ This is what the most expensive phone company in US, Ameritech is asking for as quoted in Chicago newspapers, as quoted in the http://www.fcc.gov website, and that is what the FCC decided on last summer. When ever you see the old and altered message about Internet service access charges - feel free to send then sender this message. Now can we get back to the genealogy? W. David Samuelsen, listowner

Dear Lin Sue and all Cuz's. Happy 1998 to all: I can't recall posting VR'S from Mendon, for children of George & Catherine.. None of the births took place in Mendon, Ma. However, Harl Aldrich's " A Branch of the Aldrich Family in America,- 1969 and GAG . Vol 1; do have dates and Harl has sources on the children's births: Harl's Gen. says: from GAG; These children were b. in Dorchester, Suffolk, Ma. Abel. b. Jun 1663 Joseph b. 4 Jun 1635; Mary b. 16 Jun 1637 Miriam b. 29 Jun 1639; d. 10 Mar. 1651; (b. Dorchester; d. Braintree) Experience b. 4 Sep. 1641; d. 2 Feb 1642; ( b. d. Braintree) You have Mattithiah , b. 5th mo. 10th 1656. and they have : Martha b. 10 July 1656; Lin's Braintree records: Miriam Aldridg the daughter of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe dyed the 1 mo. 10th. 1651. p. 641: John Aldridg, the sone of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (2) (2) 1644.. Sarah Aldridg, the duaghter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (16) (11) 1645. Peter Aldridg, the sone of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (14) (2) 1648. Mercy Aldridg, the daughter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (17) (4) 1650. Jacob Aldridg, the son of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (28) (12) 1652. Mattithiah Aldridg, the daughter of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the 5th mo. 10th 1656. Making 11 children as I believe to be correct.. According to your VR'S; AJ'S - GAG is off a year on Sarah; says b. 16 Jan. 1646 and the VR says 1645: Probably should be 1645/46?? Does anyone have the Dorchester, VR'S for these births?? These VR's and dates are a good example of The OLD calendar "Julian" and the NEW calendar was the "Gregorian". I myself, have a hard time changing the dates, as seems to have been done in the past here in George's family. Do we have a expert on the list to help us whether these date have been changed correctly??? as most of us have been copying from AJ or other Genealogies.. Thanks Lin, for sharing, as we all know the VR'S, in this case, would be the Primary source. Any Help here with the calender changed dates??? Alice alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

This is 3rd of my 18 lists that had been hit by the old and altered/bogus message in 3 days! In addition to at least 5 or 6 other lists I know of. Do not circulate the VERY OLD message about the ISP minute charges. If you had done the homework at the www.fcc.gov - you would have discovered somebody had changed the date in the old message from 1997 to 1998 to cause chaos all over again. The proof is here..... http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/ispfact.html Below is a short quote from that page. Read it and follow your best instincts. The Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) on Access Charge Reform seeks comment on proposals to restructure the entire system of access charges paid to local telephone companies. The Commission is seeking to make the access charge system more consistent with the development of local competition in the telephone industry, and with principles of economic efficiency. As part of this process, the Commission considered whether enhanced service providers, such as ISPs, should be required to pay interstate access charges. The Commission tentatively concludes that ISPs should not be subject to access charges as currently constituted. If you want to learn more about this issue you should read paragraphs 282 through 290 in the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking the rest of the document covers other issues. You can also access this document on the FCC's Web site, or you can obtain this section of the document by calling our fax on demand system at 202/418-2830 and requesting document numbers, 96-262, >94-1, 91-213 and 96-263. The final deadline for comments on the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking is Friday, February 14, 1997. (snipped - too long for this list or ANY other list) You can see that was the very last of the issue. Please note the OLD DATE. If any of you see the similiar message on any other list - do not respond to it - just hit delete button. AND, you refer that person who forwarded the old message to the website as provided to you.

Hi All: Saw this on another list and think it something that needs to be looked in to. Alison- -------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: sbabb1@swbell.net To: GenChat-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GenChat-L] iNTERNET ACCESS Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 12:53:49 -0800 Message-ID: <34AC025D.304E@swbell.net> I am writing you this to inform you of a very important matter currently under review by the FCC. Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your internet service. They contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network. It is my belief that internet usage will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute charges. The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses must be received by February 13, 1998. Send your comments and tell them what you think. mailto:isp@fcc.gov Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to sneak it in just under the wire for litiagation. Let everyone you know hear this one. Get the e-mail address to everyone you can think of. ******************************************************************* Bob Battaglia <bobbatt@texas.net> in the Alamo City --------- End forwarded message ---------- ==== GenChat Mailing List ==== Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: http://www.rootsweb.com --------- End forwarded message ----------

In a message dated 98-01-01 14:34:38 EST, ethelind@athens.net writes: << I seem to recall that someone (Alice?) posted the Mendon records for the George and Katherine, but haven't seen the few Braintree ones. I might have missed them, so this could be a duplication, but just in case someone wanted them:: >From Records of the Town of Braintree, 1640 to 1793, edited by Samuel A. Bates, 1886, p. 637: >> Hi! Thanks for posting this! I missed the Mendon records. If someone still has them on their computer, could you please forward them? It would be much appreciated. Sue Roe SueMHR@aol.com

I seem to recall that someone (Alice?) posted the Mendon records for the George and Katherine, but haven't seen the few Braintree ones. I might have missed them, so this could be a duplication, but just in case someone wanted them:: >From Records of the Town of Braintree, 1640 to 1793, edited by Samuel A. Bates, 1886, p. 637: Miriam Aldridg the daughter of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe dyed the 1 mo. 10th. 1651. p. 641: John Aldridg, the sone of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (2) (2) 1644.. Sarah Aldridg, the duaghter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (16) (11) 1645. Peter Aldridg, the sone of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (14) (2) 1648. Mercy Aldridg, the daughter of Georg Aldridg, and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (17) (4) 1650. Jacob Aldridg, the son of Georg Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the (28) (12) 1652. Mattithiah Aldridg, the daughter of George Aldridg and Katheren his wiffe was borne the 5th mo. 10th 1656. My Line: George ALDRICH and Katherine SEALD Joseph ALDRICH and Patience OSBORNE John ALDRICH and Martha EVANS Aaron ALDRICH and Abiah BURGESS (prob. dau. Jacob and Mary HUNT B.) Moses ALDRICH and Abigail WILLIAMS (desc'd. Roger Williams) Arnold ALDRICH and Abigail GREY (ancestry unknown to me) Arnold ALDRICH and Margery WILLIAMSON (b. Dungannon, No. Ireland) Sara ALDRICH and John Allen HEATH (desc'd. from Bartholomew Heath of Haverhill) John Ira HEATH and Janet Finlay AITKEN (b. Edinburgh, Scot) Allen Victor HEATH and Ethelind Hodgkins BROWN Betty Lou HEATH and Calvin Thayer WRIGHT (celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary 20 Dec 1997) Ethelind Ruth WRIGHT Lin Wright ethelind@athens.net

Dear Alice and Alison, Thanks so much for the responses to my question about "our George". I really appreciate the knowledge you both have and share freely with the group. I have learned a lot from you both. Lets hope 1998 is a good one!! Derby Gordon MailTo:derby@penn.com Member: DAR - General Joseph Warren Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution, Warren, Pa. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3361/ DAC- Kanoagoa Chapter of the Daughters of American Colonists, Warren, Pa. Aldrich Family Assn. http://www.geocities.com.SouthBeach/Marina/2343 Jacobs Family Assn. MailTo:marydale@erols.com Sanborn Family Assn. Ellis Island Foundation http://www.ellisisland.org OGS Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/public/default.htm Addie's Home Page Everything you will ever need for Genealogy!!! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978

Hi All, Sending a Happy New Year from our house to Yours. May you all have a happy , safe Holiday. Happy New Year to All. Drive safe.. and Please don't drink and drive! Our Best to ALL, Alice & Al alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

Good Morning All. I saw this on another list and thought I would pass it along. This is something to consider. And as a genealogy "tip" might well be something to remember during our struggling searches for ancestors & lost records. Alison THE OYSTER There once was an oyster Whose story I tell, Who found that some sand Had got into his shell. It was only a grain, But it gave him great pain. For oysters have feelings Although they�re so plain. Now, did he berate The harsh workings of fate That had brought him To such a deplorable state? Did he curse at the government, Cry for election, And claim that the sea should Have given him protection? No � he said to himself As he lay on a shell, Since I cannot remove it, I shall try to improve it. Now the years have rolled around, As the years always do, And he came to his ultimate Destiny � stew. And the small grain of sand That had bothered him so Was a beautiful pearl All richly aglow. Now the tale has a moral, For isn�t it grand What an oyster can do With a morsel of sand? What could�t we do If we�d only begin With some of the things That get under our skin. Author Unknown --------- End forwarded message ----------

Good Morning David, and Aldrich Cousins: You are correct - no daughters born to Jacob and Bethiah (Evans) Aldrich [AJ #16]. Jacob's son, Jacob b. 1722 has been listed as AJ #42M, vol 3 of GAG Jacob's son, Daniel b. has been listed as AJ #42N, vol 5 of GAG For sons, Peter and Stephen who are listed in Vol 1 AJ # 42, and 43, see vol 5 GAG. Alison

While indexing another volume of New York County for will testators indexes series, found this... Jacob AULDRIDGE/ALDDRICH wife: Bethiah, executor children: Peter Gershom, executor Jacob Daniel Stephen will dated 21 Oct 1746 will proved 10 Nov 1746 no mention of any daughters. He is grandson of George Aldrich, (son of Peter Aldrich and Mehitable Swazey). Order of birth of sons match my database. W. David Samuelsen

Hi All, again! This message came from another list, about the beginning of the Quaker religion in the colonies: I do have other data and all leads me to believe that there is no way George & Catherine or any other early settler could have been Quakers in the 1630; a) George Fox didn't found the Quakers until the early 1650's. as I understand; b) The Quaker Invasion of Massachusetts: Richard Hallowell states pg 32. "It is believed that numbers of the people of the town of Salem [so maybe Haverhill as well?], (together with others of the Plymouth Colony) had embraced the tenets of the Quakers prior to the arrival of some missionaries in 1656, but there is apparently no evidence to indicate that they had proclaimed themselves or adopted the name of the despised sect...." and then on pg34 "Ann Austin & Mary Fisher [the first two Quaker visitors] came in July of 1656. My inferences from above (and from reading other parts of Hallowell) is that there was already religious unrest, conflict, and persecution in Mass Bay & Plymouth Colonies early on (perhaps early in the 1640s. And that people were following personal practices that later were "institutionalized by the Quakers but that formal Quaker conversions did not happen until after the missionaries arrived. Perhaps even well after they arrived. ------------------------- Another source abt. Quakers: I agree that they probably weren't any members of the 'Society of Friends' Church before the missionaries arrived but there were certainly those that held similar beliefs and/or embraced at least some of the teachings of Fox. The definition of whether they were Quaker depends on whether you are talking about the faith or the organization. >From what I have read it appears that the Puritan's did not mind people practicing their own religion originally unless they tried to persuade others against the official Church. Reference Rev. Bachiler's ability to continue to preach at Lynn in the 1630's with the stipulation that he only minister to those who came with him from Holland. The real persecution did not begin until the missionaries (heretics) arrived and began trying to convert large numbers (1656). ------------------------- Above: I am just passing this little Quaker History on ; These are NOT my writtings... I do not have R. Hallowell's book: so cannot verify the above. I feel if George-1 had any difficulties with the so called " 1st Church" that he may have removed from Braintree, Ma. and settled in R.I. joining Roger Williams, instead of coming to Mendon, Ma., where all adhered to the Congregational or First Church.. In some writings it says "That George-1- left Mendon a short while and went Swansea, Ma. as did another first settler Benjamin Albee..bef. 1670; Swansea was the location of the first- 1st Baptist Church in Ma. Returning to Mendon before 1675; Did George-1 , for a time , embrass the Baptist religion- later descendants of the family were known as Ana-Baptist, and later Quakers.??? Food for thought, :) Happy New Year, Alice alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

Hi Jennifer, Alice, Jack, and any other Aldriches who may be interested: I am not saying that Peter Barton didn't live in Royalston, MA. He and Rachel were not doing anything that generated vital statistics in Royalston, such as having children, etc. The History of Royalston, A by Lillian Caswell 1917 lists Peter Barton on pg 410. I only have a portion of this history and not that page, so cannot tell you what it says. There are no entries for Aldrich in this index. However, there is an Aldrich in the book - Luther Ballou who is in GAG (AJ # 160vii) He married a Clarissa Davis, dau of Capt Joseph and Sophia (White) Davis, born in Royalston. Luther Ballou was born in Richmond, NH 7 Sep 1797. (Hist. of Royalston pg 210) For some trivia here, some of the Davises who lived in Royalston were descendants of Edward Rawson, or married Rawson descendants. Alison

Hi alice and All: According to Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language 1989 pg 891: Meeting house 1. a house or building for religious worship 2. a house of worship for Quakers You are correct Alice: George Aldrich was not a Quaker, or at least he did not profess to be one. If he were, he's more than likely have been buried in the Quaker Cemetery then, and I very much doubt this was the case. To Derby, you asked was George one of the Quakers, that was in NE in 1630? Yes to NE, but no to being a Quaker that can be proven, and I very much doubt this can be proven that he was. Alison

Hi Derby and all Cuz's, Well, that was interesting, :) Thanks Derby for sharing. This is I believe is a repeated error and has been repeated so many times.. and it is a "real stinker" to bury. :) When George and his wife left England they were staunch " Puritans," and became members of the First Church, in Dorchester , Ma. They joined shortly after their arrival. So that throws OUT the Quaker theory. If George ever became a Quaker it had to be years after his arrival.. I still question whether he ever was??? Many of his descendants were, but GEORGE-1 ??? Does anyone have any documentation that George & Catherine were Quakers, ever??? When the Founding Father's George & Catherine amongst them came to Mendon, Ma., and a Minister was settled, and the first "Meeting House" built, all atteneded what was then the First Church or Congregational Ch.; The word "Meeting House" makes many think these were Quaker Churches.. but all First Churches were called "Meetig Houses" . I stand to be corrected, of course. :) Would like to hear more on this subject, Happy New Year, Alice >American Biographical Library >The Twentieth Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans >Volume 3 >Daughters of America; or Women of the Century >Chapter XI: Women Lecturers. >S. H. Dekroyft >page 327 >The blind woman speaker, "Mrs. S. H. DEKROYFT, familiarly known as 'The Blind Authoress,' is of the seventh generation from the distinguished Quaker, George Aldrich, who came to this country in 1630, with a company of his persecuted people. > >Derby Gordon MailTo:derby@penn.com alicep@ma.ultranet.com " Message From Massachusetts"

Hi John, Alice and All: First of all Peter nor Rachel are listed in the Royalston, MA Vital Records! There are a few Bartons with ties to Croyden, NH listed in there. a dau (i suspect) of Peter, Sarah A. Barton [dau of Peter age 25] of Croyden, NH married 23 Jan 1845 int. not recorded Royalston, MA VR pg 84 Jubal Boyden [son of Samuel age 45] of Worcester, MA. Worcester, MA VR's pg 31 Ella E. Boyden b. 04 May 1846 pg 304 Samuel Boyden of Ward, MA (no Auburn) and Sally Curtis m. 1 Dec 1791 in Ward, MA. Auburn , MA. VR pg 22 Jubal Boyden b. 18 Jun 1797 son of Samuel and Sally pg 60 Samuel Boyden and Sally Curtis of Worcester m. 1 Dec 1791 Auburn, MA Regards, Alison