Sorry I didn't Ploofread. "Carpetbagger"

Just a comment. He was probably shot in the back by a "Carpertbagger". Cleve

I had a question for you. Was your ancestor shot in the back by a yankee in Selma or somewhere else. I am researching Selma's Civil War units and they were fighting in NC on April 15. Thanks, Ernest Dollar ----- Original Message ----- From: <OAK6LEY@aol.com> To: <ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [ALDALLAS-L] MOLETTE's BEND-Orrvill > Thanks Irma and all the others! > I don't know why I did not join this list long ago- my first query and a > wealth of info and help appears! You are wonderful! > I am not sure when I will be able to get to Selma but it is in the planning > stage. Perhaps sometime this summer. I was hoping that the records were > mainly intact since (if history & memory serves me) Selma was occupied > through a portion of the War. (where I live they still call it the "WAR" as > if no other war ever happened). > I know that in my 3rd grt grandfather's information (William Page Molette who > was the original Molette settler) it stated that he died on April 15, 1865- > shot in the back by a Yankee-So I figure Selma was occupied at least during > the last part of the war. > > Knowing the extent of records helps in planning how many days needed to > research- now all I have to do is get the husband to drive all day and night > to get there- entertain himself in a strange city for about five days while I > dig through books then drive all day and night back home...HUMMMM > > Once again thanks > Sandra Mann Oakley- A Virginian with Alabama Roots!- >

The Georgia Durdens spell Durden with an "e", most of our Texas Durdins spell our name with an "i". William Issac Durden's descendants spell their name with an "e". For the purpose of my tracking on the computer, I will accept information on the Durdens spelled anyway it is sent. Dorothy Durden

Thanks Irma and all the others! I don't know why I did not join this list long ago- my first query and a wealth of info and help appears! You are wonderful! I am not sure when I will be able to get to Selma but it is in the planning stage. Perhaps sometime this summer. I was hoping that the records were mainly intact since (if history & memory serves me) Selma was occupied through a portion of the War. (where I live they still call it the "WAR" as if no other war ever happened). I know that in my 3rd grt grandfather's information (William Page Molette who was the original Molette settler) it stated that he died on April 15, 1865- shot in the back by a Yankee-So I figure Selma was occupied at least during the last part of the war. Knowing the extent of records helps in planning how many days needed to research- now all I have to do is get the husband to drive all day and night to get there- entertain himself in a strange city for about five days while I dig through books then drive all day and night back home...HUMMMM Once again thanks Sandra Mann Oakley- A Virginian with Alabama Roots!-

Eleanor Molette Cobb is a direct descendent of this family and still owns land in Molette's Bend. She is not on the Internet but her mailing address is: Mrs. Charles R. Cobb, 108 Crescent Hill, Selma, AL 36701; Telephone (334) 872-1076. I am passing a copy of your e-mail on to her. Victor Atkins, 22 Berkeley Road, Selma, AL 36701-6805 (334) 872-7292 (voice/answering machine) (334) 872-4556 (voice/fax) ----- Original Message ----- From: <OAK6LEY@aol.com> To: <ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: February 14, 2000 7:59 PM Subject: [ALDALLAS-L] MOLETTE's BEND-Orrvill >From information I have gathered my grt grandfather Charles Stonewall Jackson MANN's maternal family was MOLETTE. The Molette family seem to have come to Dallas Co around the 1820s from SC. They settled in an area near Orrvill called MOLETTE'S BEND and from records several generations are buried there. William P. Molette d. 1865 and wife Margaret Ann Ulmer Molette John Ulmer Molette and Susan Caldwell Molette Eliza Susan Mann Molette Harrison and 2nd husband William Henry Harrison. Eliza Susan Molette was born in 1848 & died in 1933 in Dallas Co. Does any one know if wills are maintained from the 1930's at the court house? Also by chance would wills from the 1870s be there? In 1935, Charles traveled to Dallas Co to settle his part of Eliza's estate. My uncle who was 14 at the time remembers going to Selma from Richmond ,VA , the lawyer's, the court house and getting ice cream- as he put it "what 14 yr old worries with dead people". I am trying to find the first husband of Eliza Molette--???? MANN. I have all kinds of information on the family except her first husband. It seems this husband died shortly after Charles was born abt 1871-1875 (everyone is still trying to figure which year). We know that by age 4 Charles was living in Berlin Germany- this is likely since Eliza's obit mentions that she studied in Berlin after she graduated from Judson College. Eliza returned to America but left Charles in Germany. When he return (unannounced ) in the 1880s he found that his mother had remarried and that he had a half sister- Kathleen Harrison Hammond Scott. Charles did not stay in Dallas Co long from what he said- But he did say that he had an Uncle Will he liked and that he worked a while at his Uncle's newspaper where he learned some of the pressman trade. I think his Uncle Will is William Page Molette- Eliza's brother and the paper he worked at might have been the one once owned by his uncle by marriage Seaborn Jones Saffold. The only other thing Charles said about his family in Dallas Co was that his father left him a plantation which was put in his mother's trust until he became of age- I am not sure if the plantation would have been in Dallas Co or in Montgomery since Eliza lived in Montgomery for a period of time. But since she died in Dallas Co and my uncle remembers going to the courthouse- it is a place to start. Any ideas or info about county records would be great! Thanks in advance Sandra Mann Oakley

Hello, I am also interested in relatives from long ago Dallas County. I will tell you that the courthouse in Selma is a wealth of information. Their records survived the Civil War and they are helpful to researchers. We found old wills from our Blevins family from the 1850's along with many other papers. Also the city library has an extensive genealogical section. It's worth a few days time in Selma. Irma Evans, Houston, Texas >>> OAK6LEY@aol.com 02/14/00 08:00PM >>> >From information I have gathered my grt grandfather Charles Stonewall Jackson MANN's maternal family was MOLETTE. The Molette family seem to have come to Dallas Co around the 1820s from SC. They settled in an area near Orrvill called MOLETTE'S BEND and from records several generations are buried there. William P. Molette d. 1865 and wife Margaret Ann Ulmer Molette John Ulmer Molette and Susan Caldwell Molette Eliza Susan Mann Molette Harrison and 2nd husband William Henry Harrison. Eliza Susan Molette was born in 1848 & died in 1933 in Dallas Co. Does any one know if wills are maintained from the 1930's at the court house? Also by chance would wills from the 1870s be there? In 1935, Charles traveled to Dallas Co to settle his part of Eliza's estate. My uncle who was 14 at the time remembers going to Selma from Richmond ,VA , the lawyer's, the court house and getting ice cream- as he put it "what 14 yr old worries with dead people". I am trying to find the first husband of Eliza Molette--???? MANN. I have all kinds of information on the family except her first husband. It seems this husband died shortly after Charles was born abt 1871-1875 (everyone is still trying to figure which year). We know that by age 4 Charles was living in Berlin Germany- this is likely since Eliza's obit mentions that she studied in Berlin after she graduated from Judson College. Eliza returned to America but left Charles in Germany. When he return (unannounced ) in the 1880s he found that his mother had remarried and that he had a half sister- Kathleen Harrison Hammond Scott. Charles did not stay in Dallas Co long from what he said- But he did say that he had an Uncle Will he liked and that he worked a while at his Uncle's newspaper where he learned some of the pressman trade. I think his Uncle Will is William Page Molette- Eliza's brother and the paper he worked at might have been the one once owned by his uncle by marriage Seaborn Jones Saffold. The only other thing Charles said about his family in Dallas Co was that his father left him a plantation which was put in his mother's trust until he became of age- I am not sure if the plantation would have been in Dallas Co or in Montgomery since Eliza lived in Montgomery for a period of time. But since she died in Dallas Co and my uncle remembers going to the courthouse- it is a place to start. Any ideas or info about county records would be great! Thanks in advance Sandra Mann Oakley

Does anyone have any records that show the family name Rayford that would have been in the Orville/Selma area? Thanks. Greta

Don't know if this helps at all, but on a xeroxed copy of an extended family tree I found the following: John Shields m (1st) Elizabeth Paulding, (2nd) Keziah Hagan John had (8) children, one of which was Harriot Elizabeth Shields. Harriot Elizabeth Shields m (1st) Gerard J. Smith, (2nd) Atlas Jones Martin. Harriot and John were married 7/26/1843 and they had (1) daughter named Alice. Alice married Dr. Robert M. Cochran and had (3) children. Their daughter, Eleanor Bainbridge Cochran married William Page Molette. Eleanor Bainbridge Cochran and WIlliam Page Mollete had (2) sons, William Page Mollete and Robert Cochran Molette. Robert Cochran Molette married Viola. I grew up in Martin Station, ALabama which is near Molette's Bend. I used to go play there. The generation at that time was Bobby Molette and his wife Helen. He died very young and she was recently mordered (supposedly) by her 2nd husband - she was from Eufala, AL. They had 3 children, I believe. Robert, who was my brother's age - would be about 36 now - a younger boy named Page and, I believe, a baby girl. I can't remember her name and Helen and the children moved back to her hometown after her husband died. Don't know if this helps at all, but I emailed my father and asked him to "pick his brain." He is in his 70's and has known the Molette family all of his life - his parents and most probably grandparents and beyond were all friends with the Molette's. Harriot Elizabeth Shield's 2nd husband, Atlas Jone Martin, was my ggg-grandfather. Good luck. Fredreica Speyer PS. If anyone knows anyhting about the mother of Atlas Jones Martin, please let me know! His father was John Bethune Martin. Thanks. OAK6LEY@aol.com wrote: > >From information I have gathered my grt grandfather Charles Stonewall Jackson > MANN's maternal family was MOLETTE. The Molette family seem to have come to > Dallas Co around the 1820s from SC. They settled in an area near Orrvill > called MOLETTE'S BEND and from records several generations are buried there. > William P. Molette d. 1865 and wife Margaret Ann Ulmer Molette > John Ulmer Molette and Susan Caldwell Molette > Eliza Susan Mann Molette Harrison and 2nd husband William Henry Harrison. > > Eliza Susan Molette was born in 1848 & died in 1933 in Dallas Co. Does any > one know if wills are maintained from the 1930's at the court house? Also by > chance would wills from the 1870s be there? In 1935, Charles traveled to > Dallas Co to settle his part of Eliza's estate. My uncle who was 14 at the > time remembers going to Selma from Richmond ,VA , the lawyer's, the court > house and getting ice cream- as he put it "what 14 yr old worries with dead > people". > > I am trying to find the first husband of Eliza Molette--???? MANN. I have > all kinds of information on the family except her first husband. It seems > this husband died shortly after Charles was born abt 1871-1875 (everyone is > still trying to figure which year). We know that by age 4 Charles was living > in Berlin Germany- this is likely since Eliza's obit mentions that she > studied in Berlin after she graduated from Judson College. Eliza returned to > America but left Charles in Germany. When he return (unannounced ) in the > 1880s he found that his mother had remarried and that he had a half sister- > Kathleen Harrison Hammond Scott. > Charles did not stay in Dallas Co long from what he said- But he did say that > he had an Uncle Will he liked and that he worked a while at his Uncle's > newspaper where he learned some of the pressman trade. I think his Uncle > Will is William Page Molette- Eliza's brother and the paper he worked at > might have been the one once owned by his uncle by marriage Seaborn Jones > Saffold. > The only other thing Charles said about his family in Dallas Co was that his > father left him a plantation which was put in his mother's trust until he > became of age- > I am not sure if the plantation would have been in Dallas Co or in Montgomery > since Eliza lived in Montgomery for a period of time. But since she died in > Dallas Co and my uncle remembers going to the courthouse- it is a place to > start. > > Any ideas or info about county records would be great! > Thanks in advance > Sandra Mann Oakley

>From information I have gathered my grt grandfather Charles Stonewall Jackson MANN's maternal family was MOLETTE. The Molette family seem to have come to Dallas Co around the 1820s from SC. They settled in an area near Orrvill called MOLETTE'S BEND and from records several generations are buried there. William P. Molette d. 1865 and wife Margaret Ann Ulmer Molette John Ulmer Molette and Susan Caldwell Molette Eliza Susan Mann Molette Harrison and 2nd husband William Henry Harrison. Eliza Susan Molette was born in 1848 & died in 1933 in Dallas Co. Does any one know if wills are maintained from the 1930's at the court house? Also by chance would wills from the 1870s be there? In 1935, Charles traveled to Dallas Co to settle his part of Eliza's estate. My uncle who was 14 at the time remembers going to Selma from Richmond ,VA , the lawyer's, the court house and getting ice cream- as he put it "what 14 yr old worries with dead people". I am trying to find the first husband of Eliza Molette--???? MANN. I have all kinds of information on the family except her first husband. It seems this husband died shortly after Charles was born abt 1871-1875 (everyone is still trying to figure which year). We know that by age 4 Charles was living in Berlin Germany- this is likely since Eliza's obit mentions that she studied in Berlin after she graduated from Judson College. Eliza returned to America but left Charles in Germany. When he return (unannounced ) in the 1880s he found that his mother had remarried and that he had a half sister- Kathleen Harrison Hammond Scott. Charles did not stay in Dallas Co long from what he said- But he did say that he had an Uncle Will he liked and that he worked a while at his Uncle's newspaper where he learned some of the pressman trade. I think his Uncle Will is William Page Molette- Eliza's brother and the paper he worked at might have been the one once owned by his uncle by marriage Seaborn Jones Saffold. The only other thing Charles said about his family in Dallas Co was that his father left him a plantation which was put in his mother's trust until he became of age- I am not sure if the plantation would have been in Dallas Co or in Montgomery since Eliza lived in Montgomery for a period of time. But since she died in Dallas Co and my uncle remembers going to the courthouse- it is a place to start. Any ideas or info about county records would be great! Thanks in advance Sandra Mann Oakley

Dear Rosanne, I saw your post regarding Dallas County, Alabama, and was curious about the name MAYS / MAYES. I am researching the family of my -g-g- grandmother,...who was Mary R. Mayes,...born 1824 in Dallas County, Alabama. Believe her father to be Robert L. Mayes,.. In 1840, she married my g-g- grandfather, James White, and they moved to White County, Arkansas in 1870. He was from Perry County, Ala. Anxious to hear from you .If you have a few minutes to reply, it would be much appreciated. Sincerely, LFB

Family lore has it that Elmer Walker was at one time the mayor of Selma. I wondered if someone could confirm that for me. Best Regards, Rosanne

Still looking for the descendants of the following WORRELL family buried in New Live Oak Cemetery and information about our common ancestor, Daniel Webster Worrell b 1852 in Perry County AL son of Wesley J. WORRELL and Catherine DUNKIN: Benjamin Franklin WORRELL Willie Harmon WORRELL Henry Avery WORRELL Sadie R. WORRELL Laura Mae WORRELL WELLS Also those descendants of our common ancestor Wesley J. WORRELL b abt 1811 in either NC,SC or KY and second wife Mary "Polly" BROWN NICHOLS: Robert Webster WORRELL Otis WORRELL Calvin DeWitt WORRELL :) Nannette

I am searching my my family tree. My great grand father lived in Dallas County, near Selma, AL. John Gadsen was married to Emeline. This union produce one daughter my grand mother, Ellen Gadsen. All were from Dallas county. Ellen was born 1898 and moved to Pensacola, Fl and married Jenkins Mathews. She died in 1942. If you can help me please respond. Thank you very much MWIL2121@aol.com

Dear Mr. Crocker: Do you possibly have the muster roll for the 51st Alabama Cavalry (Partisan Rangers) Company "I" composed of men from Dallas and Perry Counties? Thank you so much for your help. Fredreica Speyer. Howard McCollum wrote: > Jim - > > Since you volunteered, I'd be interested in any information you might have > on John H. McCollum, who was a sergeant in the 8th Alabama Infantry. We > know he enlisted in Radfordsville in 1861 for the duration, but we don't > know what happened to him. Family lore says he was killed in the Battle of > the Wilderness, but other information says he was still present with his > unit at Petersburg in December, 1864. I'd appreciate any info you might > have. > > Howard McCollum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Crocker <clc@tds.net> > To: <ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Civil War Rosters and General Links > > > As far as any unit in Alabama--Have all the listing of the Civil War > Soldiers > > by name and which unit they were associated with! Also have the listing > for > > each unit! Will be glad to provide anyone needing lookups with a > particular > > individual they are looking for > > > > Jim Crocker > > > > Peggy McCray wrote: > > > > > Thanks B. J. for the links! I am trying to locate a copy of the roster > for > > > Company E of the 41st Alabama Infantry. Maybe these will help. > > > > > > Larry McCray > >

I am looking for a Sarah Norris and Hampton Crawford married in Dallas County, AL on 12/22/1821. They should still be in Dallas County in 1830 with at least 2 children (Jeremiah born ca. 1827 and Malachi born ca. 1829). any information on this family would be much appreciated. Thanks, Ron Searcy searcygr@earthlink.net ron.searcy@ps.net

Trying to locate Cinnamon <cinnamon@cwix.com>, aka Fred Learned, from Ft. Myers. Please contact me if you're on the list and your edress has changed. Another CARROLL surname researcher is trying to contact you but your mail is being returned. Does anyone else on the list know how to get in touch with him? Thanks, B.J. Smothers Listowner ALDALLAS-L

Hi, I am trying to find any information on Leona Johnson who was born on 10/16/1911 and died on 3/23/1973. And any information on Angerlener Mcleroy who was born on 9/22/1957 and died on 9/13/1973. Any information would be greatly appreciated. My e-mail address is <mailto:k.parris@worldnet.att.net>k.parris@worldnet.att<mailto:k.parris@worl dnet.att.net>.net Thank you very much for your help.

Researching Menifee Roots .I need the history and especially origin of the Menifee's of Dallas County. Are there any elderly Menifee's who know the history or young ones also? F.Menifee

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