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    1. [ALDALLAS-L] RIALS
    2. Shari
    3. RIALS Looking for information on any RIALS/RILES/RYALS/RYLES etc. families in Dallas County, Alabama, c1830. My ancestor Edmund (aka "J.E.V.") Rials was born in Dallas Co in 1830. I feel he may be related to the Nancy Rials shown in the census that year. (The only Rials household) I have more information on Edmund and descendants after he moved to Pike County, AL (by 1850) and on to Louisiana (by 1860). Please see my website at http://www.hypertree.com/rials/ or see the 'shari' file at Rootsweb's WorldConnect. Shari, shari@viptx.net

    03/29/2000 01:43:36
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Rip-offs of the genealogy community
    2. Juanetta Powers
    3. I received is from another list. My Aunt bought a book similar to this i the late 1970's and saidit was a Rip-Off even then. Juanetta Subject: Rip-offs of the genealogy community continues > > Good Morning, friends and cousins in the genealogy community! > > The response to the identification of the genealogy rip-off operation > in Denver last week has been tremendous with a steady stream of requests > for add'l info. > > The operation in Denver with a newly discovered "branch" in Utah is an > incarnation of the identical scheme that Halbert's used. The same form > letters, books and newsletters are being sold, and the same fake > "Crests" and other products are being created "to exacting standards". > > The new incarnation has not yet been linked financially to Halbert“s or > NUMA (Halbert parent), but the resemblance is so close, they could be > joined at the hip, operating under dba's Mountain West News Service, > Mountain Pacific News Service, and MORPHCORP. The Better Business Bureau > reports that the company has joined the BBB in January 2000, opened in > 1985, and is rated as satisfactory. A complete history of Halbert's, > courtesy of Jeff Scism (despite our surname homonyms, we ain't kin --- > he hopes!) is available at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/shame/halberts.htm > > Volunteers interested in assisting in informing the genealogy community > of this scam have come out of the woodwork. We would ask the recipients > of this email the following: > 1) A sample of the Colorado flyer is at > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/genfraud.jpg > Print it and post in the genealogy section at your library with > appropriate message and make announcements at your gensoc. > > 2) After you have read it, as a researcher you realize the fraud that it > is. Go to the Federal Trade Commissions website at > https://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm and file a complaint ONLINE. For > a sample complaint and further detailed information to use, please go to > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/complaint.txt > > 3) Forward this to every list you are on. > > 4) If you are a member of NGS (shane@ngsgenealogy.org) or FGS > (fgs-office@fgs.org), contact those organizations and ask that they get > members motivated. Gentech, Inc. (beau@connect.net) has a director and > a well-known regular conference speaker in the Denver metro. I asked > them to do some local research. No response to date. > > 5) Contact every genealogy columnist whose work you read, both local and > online such as Myra Gormley (myravg@prodigy.net} or Dick Eastman > (ROOTS@compuserve.com) who was stalwart in early work on Halbert's, both > of whom, as well as others, are on this list. No response to date. > > 6} If you have rec'd a flyer yourself, please report the names and > addresses to me. We need to know all the DBAs they are using. Then > take it to the local post office and file a complaint. > > 7) If you are in the Denver area, we need search of the court house > records to determine any corporate connections. If we can make a > corporate connection, I am fairly sure the restraints placed on > Halbert's can be extended by the proper authorities. > > 8) If you are a supplier (software, services, researcher) to the > genealogy community, this type of scam effects you even more. > Contribute to the effort. > > 9)This is no small time scam. Halbert's is owned by a company named > NUMA whih in turn is owned by CENDANT. Go to > http://itjobs.cendant.com/cendant_co.html to find other Cendant > companies. You will NOT be happy with how you have been doing business > with folks like this --- I promise you. > > These scams are more likely to rip off folks less involved in genealogy > than most recipients of this msg. Most of us will recognize it for what > it is and trash it. That does not relieve us of the responsibility of > making it more difficult for these and other parasites within our > community to enjoy their ill-gotten gains. I have found far too many > that "don't want to get involved", "Didn't happen on my watch." (to use > an old Navy excuse), running from controversy and responsibility. Let > us unite in eradicating those that are behind an obvious attempt to > profit unethically from the popularity of genealogy. > > Joe Sissom

    03/29/2000 01:00:38
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Dallas County Surname
    2. Duffee, Donnie M.
    3. I am searching for information about H.E. Duffee he was born in Dallas County about 1855. He later lived in Red River County Texas until his death. If any one has or knows of any links to this person please let me know. Thanks.

    03/28/2000 01:36:50
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. Norma Williamson
    3. Hello, I was reading your posting about the map you have of the Cahawba area, and I was wondering if you could tell me if there is mention of any Chance's purchasing or owning land there. I am a Chance decendant and I have heard that at one time some of them owned property in that area. Any help most appreciated. Norma Williamson williamson@alaweb.com Researching- CHANCE, BOUTWELL, BLALOCK, WOOD, Godwin, Parrish, Phelps, Quarles ----- Original Message ----- From: Fredreica and Paul Speyer <speyer@bellsouth.net> To: <ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle > The Map of the town of Cahawba, Ala, Dallas County, Platted 1818 - > Alabama's First State Capitol - compiled from materials on file at the > Alabama State Department of Archives and History - Compiled by A. H. > Fleming - Drawn by Harry Creagh (my relative) was drawn in 1948 as an > artists rendition of the town. I t includes drawings of an Artesian > Well, St. Luke's Episcopal Church (now somewhat standing in Martin > Station, AL), The State House (Capitol Bldg.) at Cahaba, E.M. Perine > Mansion, Methodist Church, the Clifton Kirkpatrick Home and William > Wyatt Bibb (First Governor of Alabama). The map hangs on my kitchen wall > and I see it in restaurants and outdoor sporting shops and many friends > and families' homes. It's probably still available, although I know > Harry Creagh is now dead. I have no information on the families listed > on the map, unless my family happened to know them and my father can > remeber something about them, but I've heard that the Selma Library is > GREAT for researching stuff! Good luck! > > Roseanna - I think I made a typo - it was the Crocheron Home - built > about 1821 or 1821. The name Rufus Cochran is familiar to me though. > I'll ask my Dad. > > Virginia - Here's the rest on Thomas G. Gayle: > > Rees Darrington Gayle, son of Billups ANd Pamela (Cunningham) Gayle was > born in 1820 on Basset's Creek in Clarke County and died Nov. 19, 1905 > in Selma. He was a lawyer and a planter. Only a few months old when he > lost his parents, he was reared by an uncle, Governor John Gayle, and > his cousin, Colonel John Darrington of Clarke Co and was educated by > private tutors. Later, he attended the jesuit college at Spring Hill, > near Mobile, then studied at William and Mary College, in Williamsburg, > VA. He settled in Mobile, where he entered upon a practice of law in > partnership with his uncle, Governor Gayle. In 1848, he removed to > Cahaba, where he practiced with his cousin, George W. Gayle, and where > he built a beautiful home. Cahaba was, incidentally, the first Alabama > state capital, although a house is not left standing in it today. > Colonel Rees D. Gayle's residence there was a beautiful home, shaded by > huge water oaks, china trees, mulberries and large, ripe jasmine bushes. > Its hospitable doors were ever open and it was celebrated for its > refinement and culture, it's cordial southern welcome and its > large-hearted and elegant hospitality. The artesian well on the property > was second in size to only to one on the Perine place, which was said to > be next in size to the world's largest well in Paris, France. At the > outbreak of the War Between the States, Colonel Gayle enlisted as a > private in Company F of the Cahaba Rifles, in which he served through > the four years of fighting. He refused afterwards to serve under > Republican administrations, although they offered him high places. He > was twice wounded in the battle of Seven Pines. He was a Mason and a > Presbyterian. He married in 1851, May Louse Gill, daughter of Dr. Thomas > W. and Nancy (Craig) Gill, who lived near Cahaba on the Marion-Cahaba > Road. > > Their son, Thomas G. Gayle, was a planter until his death. At the close > of his career, he also carried mail. He was a Confederate Veteran. He > married Fannie Lou Northrop, daughter of Albert and Fannie Lou (Jackson) > Northrop. Albert Northrup was also a Confederate Veteran. > > Thomas G. Gayle, son of Thomas G. and Fannie Lou (Northrup) Gayle, > attended public schools in Selma, spent two years at Dinkin's High > School, and received his Bachelor of Laws degree from the University of > Alabama in 1926. He then established his law practice in Selma, where he > continues the work down to the time of writing. > > Among his other undertakings, he is county attorney of this county at > the time of writing. He is a member of the County Bar Association and > the Alabama State Bar Association, and also belongs to the Protestant > Episcopal Church. > > In Selma, in 1933, Thomas G. Gayle married Cora Lee Adler, who died Dec > 20, 1936, daughter of Lee C. and Cora (Loeb) Adler. They became the > parents of a daughter, Lee Gayle, who was born June 21, 1934 > > This is all from that book mentioned in the earlier post; THE STORY OF > ALABAMA, copyrighted in 1949. > > The other names I have from this book (copies of pages 100 and 101) are > John H. Burton and John Alexander Jackson, MD. > > > > vgrafton wrote: > > > Thank you so much, Will be looking forward to > > hearing that some one really did leave a trail! > > Virginia > >

    03/25/2000 02:43:58
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Map of Old Cahaba
    2. Woody/Suzanne Coats
    3. LSmith9973@aol.com wrote: > The Craig's mentioned on the map are my Family. Thomas was a brother to my > ancestor, Robert Craig. Thanks for posting the list. Craig's Ferry was > named for my Family. > > Linda > > "Wealth is not measured by what you have, but by what you have given away". > Native American Saying. Thomas Craig was an older brother to my gg grandfather, Robert Craig. And James D. Craig was the son of another brother ( James) of my ancestor, Robert Craig. James D. moved to San Francisco in about 1875 and died there in c 1881. James D. Craig's sister, Nancy Craig Gill,(cousin of my great grandfather, Robert M. Craig) was the mother-in-law of Reese Darrington Gayle. B. H. Craig was most probably Benjamin Hogan Craig b. 1835 and was a son of James D. Craig. It was for a decendant of B. H. Craig that Craig Air Force Base in Selma, Al. was named. James D. Craig wrote of Cahaba, "We enjoyed , up until the war, the best of society, churches, schools, and sociable intercourse not excelled by any community of it's size." Later, however, he moved into Selma and then to California. What size is this map? And I suppose it was drawn in color? Would love to see it. Sincerely, Suzanne Shuttleworth Coats Forest, Ms.

    03/24/2000 06:29:15
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Meador/Meadows
    2. vgrafton
    3. I am looking for any one that has information on Meador/Meadows line from Dallas Co Al. Believe they lived near Selma, John Meador left a Will in about 1833, his son Ira married Elizabeth Johnson in Dallas Co Al. Any help most welcome, I am at the brick wall on this family. Children born Ga so 1850 census shows.But where in Ga. Who was John Meador wife??? She died between 1818 and 1820. Thanks Virginia

    03/24/2000 01:29:16
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. Fredreica and Paul Speyer
    3. The Map of the town of Cahawba, Ala, Dallas County, Platted 1818 - Alabama's First State Capitol - compiled from materials on file at the Alabama State Department of Archives and History - Compiled by A. H. Fleming - Drawn by Harry Creagh (my relative) was drawn in 1948 as an artists rendition of the town. I t includes drawings of an Artesian Well, St. Luke's Episcopal Church (now somewhat standing in Martin Station, AL), The State House (Capitol Bldg.) at Cahaba, E.M. Perine Mansion, Methodist Church, the Clifton Kirkpatrick Home and William Wyatt Bibb (First Governor of Alabama). The map hangs on my kitchen wall and I see it in restaurants and outdoor sporting shops and many friends and families' homes. It's probably still available, although I know Harry Creagh is now dead. I have no information on the families listed on the map, unless my family happened to know them and my father can remeber something about them, but I've heard that the Selma Library is GREAT for researching stuff! Good luck! Roseanna - I think I made a typo - it was the Crocheron Home - built about 1821 or 1821. The name Rufus Cochran is familiar to me though. I'll ask my Dad. Virginia - Here's the rest on Thomas G. Gayle: Rees Darrington Gayle, son of Billups ANd Pamela (Cunningham) Gayle was born in 1820 on Basset's Creek in Clarke County and died Nov. 19, 1905 in Selma. He was a lawyer and a planter. Only a few months old when he lost his parents, he was reared by an uncle, Governor John Gayle, and his cousin, Colonel John Darrington of Clarke Co and was educated by private tutors. Later, he attended the jesuit college at Spring Hill, near Mobile, then studied at William and Mary College, in Williamsburg, VA. He settled in Mobile, where he entered upon a practice of law in partnership with his uncle, Governor Gayle. In 1848, he removed to Cahaba, where he practiced with his cousin, George W. Gayle, and where he built a beautiful home. Cahaba was, incidentally, the first Alabama state capital, although a house is not left standing in it today. Colonel Rees D. Gayle's residence there was a beautiful home, shaded by huge water oaks, china trees, mulberries and large, ripe jasmine bushes. Its hospitable doors were ever open and it was celebrated for its refinement and culture, it's cordial southern welcome and its large-hearted and elegant hospitality. The artesian well on the property was second in size to only to one on the Perine place, which was said to be next in size to the world's largest well in Paris, France. At the outbreak of the War Between the States, Colonel Gayle enlisted as a private in Company F of the Cahaba Rifles, in which he served through the four years of fighting. He refused afterwards to serve under Republican administrations, although they offered him high places. He was twice wounded in the battle of Seven Pines. He was a Mason and a Presbyterian. He married in 1851, May Louse Gill, daughter of Dr. Thomas W. and Nancy (Craig) Gill, who lived near Cahaba on the Marion-Cahaba Road. Their son, Thomas G. Gayle, was a planter until his death. At the close of his career, he also carried mail. He was a Confederate Veteran. He married Fannie Lou Northrop, daughter of Albert and Fannie Lou (Jackson) Northrop. Albert Northrup was also a Confederate Veteran. Thomas G. Gayle, son of Thomas G. and Fannie Lou (Northrup) Gayle, attended public schools in Selma, spent two years at Dinkin's High School, and received his Bachelor of Laws degree from the University of Alabama in 1926. He then established his law practice in Selma, where he continues the work down to the time of writing. Among his other undertakings, he is county attorney of this county at the time of writing. He is a member of the County Bar Association and the Alabama State Bar Association, and also belongs to the Protestant Episcopal Church. In Selma, in 1933, Thomas G. Gayle married Cora Lee Adler, who died Dec 20, 1936, daughter of Lee C. and Cora (Loeb) Adler. They became the parents of a daughter, Lee Gayle, who was born June 21, 1934 This is all from that book mentioned in the earlier post; THE STORY OF ALABAMA, copyrighted in 1949. The other names I have from this book (copies of pages 100 and 101) are John H. Burton and John Alexander Jackson, MD. vgrafton wrote: > Thank you so much, Will be looking forward to > hearing that some one really did leave a trail! > Virginia

    03/24/2000 01:16:32
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Map of Old Cahaba
    2. The Craig's mentioned on the map are my Family. Thomas was a brother to my ancestor, Robert Craig. Thanks for posting the list. Craig's Ferry was named for my Family. Linda "Wealth is not measured by what you have, but by what you have given away". Native American Saying.

    03/24/2000 01:13:16
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Map of Old Cahaba
    2. Joyce McMurray
    3. Please answer on the list > > In what year was the Map printed? > Thank you for taking the time to do this. > Belva

    03/24/2000 12:13:53
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Lindsey BOOTHE
    2. CCSMITH
    3. I have several family lines that came through Dallas County, AL Included are the Blann, Avant, Shaddock lines. My Web Page is Carol Smith's Genealogy Home Page http://www.hovac.com/ccsmith/csindex.htm I am researching the following families: Silas L. Blann, his siblings and parents, ca. 1792-1858 died in Dallas County, AL; Francis C. Avant's minor children and widow Elizabeth Case Avant that married a Charles Leopard ca. 1828; and Samuel F. Shaddock, Jr. from Perry County/later Dallas County, AL ca. 1774-1838. Anyone working on these lines, I'd love to hear from you! Carol Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Trish Davis (by way of "B.J. Smothers" <smothers@mindspring.com>) <fblockny@nts-online.net> To: <ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: [ALDALLAS-L] Lindsey BOOTHE > I am searching for any connections to L.M. (Lindsey Marshall) Boothe. He was > married to Susannah Blann Boothe in Dallas Co. Alabama in 1862. She was the > daughter of Silas and Elizabeth Raynor Blann. I have a great deal of > information on the children of Lindsey and Susannah but am unable to discover > what happened to Lindsey Boothe. Susannah died in 1877 and is buried in > Alameta Cemetary in Ranger, Texas. > > >

    03/24/2000 11:48:22
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Map of Old Cahaba
    2. In what year was the Map printed? Thank you for taking the time to do this. Belva

    03/24/2000 11:45:42
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Lindsey BOOTHE
    2. Trish Davis
    3. I am searching for any connections to L.M. (Lindsey Marshall) Boothe. He was married to Susannah Blann Boothe in Dallas Co. Alabama in 1862. She was the daughter of Silas and Elizabeth Raynor Blann. I have a great deal of information on the children of Lindsey and Susannah but am unable to discover what happened to Lindsey Boothe. Susannah died in 1877 and is buried in Alameta Cemetary in Ranger, Texas.

    03/24/2000 09:35:17
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. vgrafton
    3. Thank you so much, Will be looking forward to hearing that some one really did leave a trail! Virginia

    03/24/2000 07:15:38
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Map of Old Cahaba
    2. Fredreica and Paul Speyer
    3. These are the Names mentioned on the map: Abner Brazile Lucy Smith Ebenezer Bower JS Hays Thomas Craig Col. RD Hunter BH Craig Col. CC Pegues The Hood Place Aicardie Place Sommerville Res. John A. Londor Judge Wm. Hunter Miss M Troy James D Craig Clifton Kirkpatrick "Shoestring Barker" Simeon Watts Judge Fambro Col Daniel Troy Gwin Place Col. Rees D. Gayle PJ Wood Judge Campbell Judge Bird Ocheltree House John English Vogelin Place Judge George Evans Dr. Troy EM Perine Mansion (my g-grandmother's middle name was Perine, but we believe she was so named out of respect for Mr. Perine) Judge Ramer Col George W Gayle WP Dunham Cocheron Home Judge James Evans Portis Place Warford & Blackwell Mercantile Hill & Somerville Mercantile If anyone needs me to re-check a spelling with the map, just let me know. Fred Fredreica and Paul Speyer wrote: > There are no Meadors on my map of Cahaba, but very few people's > residences are included - only the most prominent. Although several of > my family lines did reside in Cahaba, the only reason I have a copy of > the map is because the artists is my relative and because of St. Luke's > Episcopal Church being on the map - my family bought it when everyone > left Cahaba and he had it moved to land we once owned. It is barely > standing now, though. > > Anyway, I believe my grandmother was friends with a Meador family from > around the Selma area. I have emailed my father to "pick his brain" on > the matter. I will let you know if I turn up anything. > > Fred > > vgrafton wrote: > > > Do you happen to see any Meador/Meadows on your > > map?? I am looking for John Meador that left a > > Will in Dallas Co about 1833, he had a child born > > about 1818 and was a widow in 1820 and living with > > his son Ira in 1830. Ira moved to Scott Co Miss > > before 1850 and died there. Any help most welcome. > > Do not know John wife name. Would love to know her > > name and where they are buried. > > Thanks > > Virginia

    03/24/2000 07:07:07
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. Fredreica and Paul Speyer
    3. There are no Meadors on my map of Cahaba, but very few people's residences are included - only the most prominent. Although several of my family lines did reside in Cahaba, the only reason I have a copy of the map is because the artists is my relative and because of St. Luke's Episcopal Church being on the map - my family bought it when everyone left Cahaba and he had it moved to land we once owned. It is barely standing now, though. Anyway, I believe my grandmother was friends with a Meador family from around the Selma area. I have emailed my father to "pick his brain" on the matter. I will let you know if I turn up anything. Fred vgrafton wrote: > Do you happen to see any Meador/Meadows on your > map?? I am looking for John Meador that left a > Will in Dallas Co about 1833, he had a child born > about 1818 and was a widow in 1820 and living with > his son Ira in 1830. Ira moved to Scott Co Miss > before 1850 and died there. Any help most welcome. > Do not know John wife name. Would love to know her > name and where they are buried. > Thanks > Virginia

    03/24/2000 03:43:54
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Fw: Clemmonds,McVay,McWilliams, Quillen
    2. dorothy vasvary
    3. ----- Subject: Fw: Clemmonds,McVay,McWilliams, Quillen Sending this out again for information. Dorothy Durden Sarah Elizabeth Clemmons b. abt. 1814 Kentucky, d. 1865 Mt. Hope, Ala. m. Pleasant Washington McVay b. April 2, 1813 Lawrence County, Ala.? m. July 18, 1833 Lawrence County, Ala. d. Jan. 22, 1895 Mt Hope, Ala. Children: William Sterlin McVay b. Jan. 15, 1843 d. Nov. 18, 1908 Birmingham, Ala. Neomi McVay b. May 27, 1839 d. in Waco, Texas Other children died early (1844-46) & James McVay, no date. Would like any information on the parents of Sarah Elizabeth Clemmons and Pleasant Washington McVay. Elizabeth Quillen b. Nov. 4, 1817 in Tenn. d. Feb. 23, 1876 m. Hugh McWilliams b. Nov. 12, 1812 Tenn. Children: John Alexander McWilliams b. March 5, 1841 in Franklin County Ala. m. Lucinda Berneta Sockwell on April, 1867 She was b. Feb. 18, 1847 in Carroll County, Ga. d. Feb. 23, 1920 in Tuscumbia, Ala. Daughter-Mattie Ellanora McWilliams b. Nov. 20, 1874 in Tuscumbia, Ala. m. William Rufus McVay b. in Mt Hope, Ala. m. Sept. 22, 1892 d. March 26, 1910. Hugh McVay b. May 9, 1746 m. Mary Fain? Daughter--Arminda R. McVay m. Bill McCarthy(William D. McCarthy) Nov. 13, 1834 in Lawrence County, Ala. Would want any information on the parents of the above relatives. Thanks, Dorothy Durden

    03/24/2000 03:17:22
    1. [ALDALLAS-L] Re: GAYLE
    2. Judy Baugh
    3. > > Subject: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:36:11 -0500 > From: Ralph & Debbie McNabb <fmc-remdam@worldnet.att.net> > To: ALDALLAS-L@rootsweb.com > > I am new to the list and am researching the following surnames. > Rees > Pentecost > Gayle > > They all came from Va.>S.C.>Ala. > > John Rees married Mary Pentecost abt. 1750-1760. Their daughter Mary > Pentecost Rees married Matthew Gayle. They all moved from Va. to S.C. > Then they moved to Ala. and finally settled in Dallas Co. > > Thanks, > Debbie > Debbie, I believe we've exchanged messages on SCSumter(?). I'm not a Gayle descendant but connect w/ the Gov. John & Sarah (Haynsworth) Gayles through the Haynsworths, and w/ his uncle's family (another)John and Nancy (Whitehead) Gayle through the Whiteheads. Nancy (Whitehead) Gayle's sister Mary married John Greening, Sumter,SC @1797. The Greenings came to AL w/ some/all of the Gayles in 1815. John Greening died in 1817. I'd thought until recently that Mary (Whitehead) Greening died in AL @1824, but she turns up in tutorship (guardian) records of some of her grandsons in DeSoto Parish, LA in 1854 - her name given as Mary GAYLE. Apparently she married one of the Gayles after John Greening died. Letters of guardianship on the Greening children who were still minors in 1824 were issued to Matthew Gayle (possibly the son of John & Nancy Whitehead Gayle). I'm trying to establish which of the Gayles was the second husband of Mary (Whitehead)Greening, and whether or not there were any children of that second marriage. Her last Greening child was Beatnah (Greening) Cater, b.1815. Mary was born @1775 (age given as 75 for Mary Gayle listed on 1850 DeSoto Parish LA census, included in household of son-in-law William G. Cater). There may not have been any chn. of second marriage, but she wasn't quite old enough to preclude the possibility. Any information appreciated. I have considerable info on the Gayles to exchange if you're interested, including journals & contemporaneous narratives. Rgds., Judy Baugh <procyon@prodigy.net> Austin, TX

    03/24/2000 02:12:46
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. vgrafton
    3. Do you happen to see any Meador/Meadows on your map?? I am looking for John Meador that left a Will in Dallas Co about 1833, he had a child born about 1818 and was a widow in 1820 and living with his son Ira in 1830. Ira moved to Scott Co Miss before 1850 and died there. Any help most welcome. Do not know John wife name. Would love to know her name and where they are buried. Thanks Virginia

    03/23/2000 03:32:24
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Rees, Pentecost, Gayle
    2. Fredreica and Paul Speyer
    3. I have on my kitchen wall a Map of the Twon of Cahawba, Ala Dallas County Platted 1818 Alabama's first Capitol - compiled from materials on file at the Alabam,a State Dept of Archives. On that map is listed the "Residence of Colonel Rees D. Gayle." Also listed on the map is the "Office and Residence of Colonel George W. Gayle." My mother has a book titled "Memories of Old Cahaba" by Anna M. Gayle Fry. I believe she was a descendent of one of the above mentioned Gayle gentlemen. One of the Gayles, Tommy Gayle, still lives in Selma. His son is named Thomas Gill Gayle the somethingth so I would guess that's his full name. Tommy Gayle had a brother who died as a young man, but I can't recall his name. Good luck in your search. Fredreica Ralph & Debbie McNabb wrote: > I am new to the list and am researching the following surnames. > Rees > Pentecost > Gayle > > They all came from Va.>S.C.>Ala. > > John Rees married Mary Pentecost abt. 1750-1760. Their daughter Mary > Pentecost Rees married Matthew Gayle. They all moved from Va. to S.C. > Then they moved to Ala. and finally settled in Dallas Co. > > Thanks, > Debbie

    03/23/2000 10:35:02
    1. Re: [ALDALLAS-L] Fw: McVay
    2. Fredreica and Paul Speyer
    3. There are still some McVays in adjoining Perry County. They live in Suttle, Alabama and their zip code is 36701 just like Selma in Dallas County. His name is George Richardson McVay, he was an only child and both of his parents are dead. I don't know if they are kin to the folks you are looking for, but it wouldn't hurt to check them out. Fredreica dorothy vasvary wrote: > > From: dorothy vasvary > To: > Sent: > Subject: McVay > > Does anyone have any information on any of the following names? > > Hugh McVay, Jr. > Wife--Mary La Fain of South Carolina > > Children; > Sally Parthernia > Rebecca > Mary L. > Jane > Arminda > Hugh Breckenridge > > Arminda r. McVay m. William D. McCarty > Father--Hugh McVay or Javan McVay > > Dorothy Durden

    03/23/2000 10:07:51