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    1. The "f" and "s" in old documents
    2. KHarrison
    3. Leaves This came across one of my mail lists and I thought it may be helpful. Kathy Harrison harris@livingonline.com When this you see, remember me --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How To Read A 200-Year-Old Document and Other FAQs In reading newspapers, books and magazines from the 18th Century you will invariably notice that an "f" is apparently used where there should be an "s." For instance, the word "vessel" is printed as "veffel," the word "same" appears as "fame" and "castle" becomes "caftle." Because of the confusion encountered by readers new to 18th Century documents, we have asked three individuals knowledgeable in the history of typography to render their views on the subject. Their explanations follow: "The Long S is a legitimate form of "S." See the American Heritage Dictionary "S" entries. The Long S is similar to a lowercase f but the horizontal stroke does not go through the top of the letter. The long s still survives in German (or at least it was available when I studied German). German has an uppercase S, a lowercase long f and a lowercase s. "The Rules Are: "Regular uppercase S; "Terminal lowercase s and medial s under certain conditions; initial long f and medial long f." "Examples: "In the 1791 Bradford edition of Thomas Paine's Common Sense, the Introduction reads: "Perhaps the fentiments contained in the following pages are not yet fufficiently fathionable to procure them general favor...." "You will note that both fentiments and pages end with a normal lowercase "s" and both fentiments & fufficiently have an initial lowercase long f." - Richard Irby The symbol "s" was not an "f" although it looked like one. The long s letter can better be described as an "f" without the crossline traveling through the vertical line. The crossline only extends to the right of the vertical line. Also, the long s was never used at the end of a word or to denote the possessive or to pluralize. Since handwriting was considered an art form, the placement of the long s depended on what the"clark" felt would be visually pleasing to his audience. In a hand-written document, the top of the long s looked like the lower case fS." - Lawrence Davis

    10/08/2005 09:00:21
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. Ihave all names on graves site in Valley Spring Cemetary. FKeeton62@aol.com

    08/17/2005 02:30:58
    1. RE: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. Mary Anne Smith
    3. Oops - I apologize - didn't read further emails. Found your next email Dave. Apologies. Mary Anne

    08/16/2005 08:51:03
    1. RE: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. Mary Anne Smith
    3. Dave: Robin's site evidently no longer works. Do you have another address? Mary Anne Lansing MI Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance. Unknown

    08/16/2005 08:51:03
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. IF the link in my last email doesnt work... go to Robin's main site... click on Cullman Co Stuff and then Cullman Co Cemeteries... http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/index.html Dave Blaikie Atlanta, Ga

    08/16/2005 04:58:41
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. Robin Sterling has a listing of Valley Springs Baptist Church Cemetery as of 9/5/2004 on his website... http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/files/cullmanstuff/cullmancemeteries/cem sframes.html Dave Blaikie Atlanta, Ga

    08/16/2005 04:49:43
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. Could you email me a copy of the Valley Grove cemetery list? My great grandmother is buried there I think. Her name would have been Mary Etta Stricklin when she died. Also there is a William (Will) Tucker buried there that I am interested in researching. Thanks, James

    08/16/2005 03:48:00
    1. Valley Spring Cemetary
    2. I have tried to let several know I have a copy of the graves sites in Valley Spring Cemetary and they don't respond. Would you please pass this information on. Frances Keeton FKeeton62@aol.com

    08/16/2005 07:12:40
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Russell
    2. Is there a list of burials at Valley Springs near Smith Lake? Bette Bacon

    08/06/2005 06:47:05
    1. Russell
    2. Fred
    3. Russell, Mary Jane, 16 Jan 1881 - 24 Jan 1958; SS James H. Russell Russell, James H., 25 Jan 1878 - 21 Jul 1953; SS Mary Jane Russell Friendship Independent Methodist Church Cemetery Can you tell me about this couple? Fred Love

    08/06/2005 04:35:00
    1. Fwd: Wheeler Foundation Meeting
    2. Matthew Morgan Barbee
    3. Lucy LeGrand Walser <lucy@legrandideas.com> wrote: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:14:25 -0500 (Central Standard Time) From: "Lucy LeGrand Walser" <lucy@legrandideas.com> To: <lucy@legrandideas.com> Subject: Wheeler Foundation Meeting Dear Friends of the General Joe Wheeler Foundation: I hope you are having a wonderful summer. We will be holding our summer meeting next Saturday. The General Meeting is: Saturday, August 13th at 2p.m. at Wheeler Chapel Church (red brick church on the north side of Ala. Hwy. 20, across from Wheeler) The meeting will last for approximately one hour. The meeting is open to the public, feel free to pass on this email or bring a friend! This is an important meeting to learn about the upcoming artifact move at Wheeler and where things stand with the renovation process. A representative from the Alabama Historical Commission and Craig Sheldon, a commissioner, will be attending and hope to provide a detailed update. We would you like to come with YOUR QUESTIONS and COMMENTS about the Wheeler home. Our last meeting for the year will be Saturday October 8th at 2p.m. Please join us August 13th! My new three month old daughter Sally Wheeler Walser is our newest member of the foundation! She looks forward to meeting you. Thank you for your support of our efforts to save our historical treasure, Wheeler! Sincerely, Lucy LeGrand Walser Friends of the General Joe Wheeler Foundation 256-648-6457 Cell lucy@legrandideas.com Matthew Morgan Barbee --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

    08/05/2005 07:54:36
    1. WHITEHEAD family
    2. Jackie
    3. Looking for the death dates/burial places for CORDIA GILES WHITEHEAD and husband JESSE J. WHITEHEAD - last appeared on the 1930 census at Holly Pond. Had daughters Gertie and Alice ---born about 1914 & 1920. Who did they marry? Any information appreciated. Jackie

    08/03/2005 05:56:14
    1. Hey Cullman ;)
    2. Matthew Barbee
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    07/18/2005 12:33:28
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore
    2. m m
    3. Yes I did not know how to spell it.we lived across the street from the business when I was 4 & 5.My dddy worked in the broiler room.We lived next door to a sweet german lady I loved dearly Mrs Mings..She brought me a little china figurene everytime she walked into town.I still have isome of them.I went back to see her several times,even after I married,then did not go for several years.One day I took my children to see her and they had torn her house & the one we lived in down.I cried.I never knew what happened to her but I guess she died,She was rather old when I was a child but I loved her..

    07/05/2005 06:34:30
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore
    2. m m
    3. William Tyler Moore was born in Ga.I think.His father was Spencer BoBo Moore from S.C & his mother was Winnifred Carr .In 1850 Winnifred was in Al.1860 Carrol Co.Ga.1870 ? 1880 Etowah Co.Al.

    07/05/2005 06:24:38
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore
    2. I don't see a direct connection to my Moore's. My ggf Hiram Joseph Moore was son of Andrew and Martha Arnett Moore. Andrew was raised in Jefferson co. But he did have a brother named John Riley Moore who married Juliana Arnett, sister to Martha Arnett Moore. They married Jefferson county AL but are buried in Cullman Co. AL. And my gf's name was James Clement Moore. he was born and raised in Jefferson co as well. The similarities in names is what made me suspect that there is a connectoin somewhere and there may well be a little further back. I'll keep your info. to refer back to if I turn up anything. Thanks, Karla

    07/05/2005 06:08:14
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore
    2. The correct spelling would be Buettner. An old Cullman family that has had a building & home supply business for years. Located behind the original Seventh Street Baptist Church in Cullman. James

    07/04/2005 11:59:13
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore & Wm Henry MOORE
    2. m m
    3. Thank you.I apperciate that information.I did not know that.Was you the one that answered by post about Doc Moore the irst time from the list ?

    07/04/2005 05:35:44
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore & Wm Henry MOORE
    2. Joel Mize
    3. The Wm Henry Moore that is shown living in Goddard, Marion Co AL in the 1910 census, may have been working for the Railroad during that period. Goddard was a very small sub-village that served as a train depot stop, created to service that industry with the Illinois Central Railroad was built through that place. Joel S. Mize Unionists of the Warrior Mountains of Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "m m" <alabamanonna@webtv.net> To: <ALCULLMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore > Does the names William Henry Moore or Eric Riley Moore mean anything to > you ? I will try to talk to daddy tomorrow and see f he can tell me more > but I don't think spo.He is 80 and getting forgetful.Riley was my > grandfathers Clemon Moores' Uncle & I think he had a son named Joseph.I > made a mistake in my post.William > Tyler Moore that married Lucinda Ellenburg was my Grandfather Clemon > Moores' grandparents.His parents was William Henry Moore and Mary Lucy > Ann Oliver.I fist find them in Duck Springs,Al.Etowah Co.They were next > in Marion Co.Al.My Grandfathers sister married in Jefferson Co.Al.and > Wm.Tyler is supposed to be buried there somewhere.I know someone told me > that Doc Moore had 2 sons living near Eva,Al,which is in Cullman Co.I am > thinking daddy said Doc's son used to work with him at Bentnor [spelled > wrong] Brothers in Cullman & that would have been abt 1953 or so. > > > > > ==== ALCULLMA Mailing List ==== > Please contact me jholland at coralwave.com for any additions or corrections to this list ALCULLMA-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

    07/04/2005 04:29:22
    1. Re: [ALCULLMA] Doc Moore
    2. m m
    3. Does the names William Henry Moore or Eric Riley Moore mean anything to you ? I will try to talk to daddy tomorrow and see f he can tell me more but I don't think spo.He is 80 and getting forgetful.Riley was my grandfathers Clemon Moores' Uncle & I think he had a son named Joseph.I made a mistake in my post.William Tyler Moore that married Lucinda Ellenburg was my Grandfather Clemon Moores' grandparents.His parents was William Henry Moore and Mary Lucy Ann Oliver.I fist find them in Duck Springs,Al.Etowah Co.They were next in Marion Co.Al.My Grandfathers sister married in Jefferson Co.Al.and Wm.Tyler is supposed to be buried there somewhere.I know someone told me that Doc Moore had 2 sons living near Eva,Al,which is in Cullman Co.I am thinking daddy said Doc's son used to work with him at Bentnor [spelled wrong] Brothers in Cullman & that would have been abt 1953 or so.

    07/04/2005 04:24:35