I am related to the Young's from Walker County, Cullman County and Blount County, and I would be glad to share my information with you and let you look it over for some possible matches. Just let me know and I will send the information...... ----- Original Message ----- From: <FINCH64@aol.com> To: <ALCULLMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: [ALCULLMA] Census research so far and my Cullman County family connections >I did a scan of the census indexes at Ancestry.com for 1830, 1840 and 1850 > for Walker County and 1850 for Hancock County. This is what I found so > far: > > 1830 Census for Walker County (just listings of heads of household): > Jones: John, Sinclair, William #1, William #2 > No James, Lee, Lewis, Lovell or Young > > 1840 Census for Walker County (just listings of heads of household): > James: Abner, Pleasant, Saml, Sherrod > Jones: Elizabeth, Henry S., James A., John, Sarah, Wallace, William #1, > William #2 > Young: John > No Lee, Lewis or Lovell > > 1850 Census for Walker County (listings of number of all persons of the > same > surname: > James:0 > Jones: 74 > "Jane": 6 (not sure if this is a typo for either James or Jones) > "Janes": 3 (not sure if this is a typo for either James or Jones) > Lee: 0 > Lewis: 3 (and I believe they're mine) > Lovell: 0 > Young: 0 > > > 1850 Census for Hancock County (listings of number of all persons with the > same surname): > James: 36 > Jones: 0 > "Janes": 13 (not sure if this a typo for James or Jones) > Lee: 0 > Lewis: 0 > Lovell: 0 > Young: 13 > > One thing it seems to me is that the John Young family of the 1840 Walker > County census may have been in the part of the county that was used to > form > Hancock (Winston) County. I'll have to do more research in the census to > be sure of > that but it looks that way so far. Either that or the John Young family up > and left Walker County altogether prior to 1850. > > Here are my Cullman County (and area) surnames and ancestors: > > James (only a hunch but I suspect I have this ancestry. Also this is a > collateral line in Jefferson County connected with the Jones, Fulmer and > Faucette > families there) > Jones: so far just my gg-grandmother, Elizabeth "Betsie" P(aralee?) Jones > Young whose parents are still unknown to me. But also a collateral line in > Jefferson Co as I stated above. > Lee: (only a hunch but I suspect we have direct Lee ancestry as well. For > now > I know that my great-grandfather Adolphus "Dolphus" Ervin/Irvin Young had > a > first wife (who was not my great-grandmother) - Mary Elizabeth Lee, > daughter of > David J. Lee, granddaughter of Leander Lee who was originally from NC > (county so far unknown to me) then to Gilmer Co, GA (1840 & 1850 > censuses). Lee is > also a direct line of my Roy cousins in Jefferson Co. They connect to the > Lees > of Shelby Co, AL. > Lewis: my ggg-grandparents John & Mary Hale(Hall?) Lewis (originally from > SC? > then to Haralson Co, GA eventually to the Cullman Co area; my > gg-grandparents > James Clark & Mary Jane Lovell Lewis then to my great-grandmother - Mary > Ellen Lewis - Adolphus Ervin Young's second wife. James Clark Lewis, Mary > Jane > Lovell Lewis & Mary Ellen Lewis Young are all buried in Vance Cemetery, > Jones > Chapel, Cullman County. > Lovell: my ggg-grandparents Elijah E. & Mary Ann Davis Lovell - also > originally from the Gilmer/Rabun/Fannin counties area in GA - same as > Leander Lee. > They are both buried at Jones Chapel Cemetery, Cullman County. > Young: my gg-grandparents, Wesley & Elizabeth "Betsie" P(aralee?) Jones > Young; my great-grandparents Adolphus Ervin & Mary Ellen Lewis Young; my > grandmother: Zora Belle Young Stolarski Jernigan of Jefferson Co, AL. > Wesley Young's > parents are also unknown to me. I also don't know when or where either > Wesley or > Betsie P Jones Young died and I don't know where either of them are > buried. > > Barry Jernigan > Murfreesboro, TN > > > ==== ALCULLMA Mailing List ==== > I am List Manager on a volunteer basis. Please accept my apologies for any > delays in correcting your problem(s). > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I did a scan of the census indexes at Ancestry.com for 1830, 1840 and 1850 for Walker County and 1850 for Hancock County. This is what I found so far: 1830 Census for Walker County (just listings of heads of household): Jones: John, Sinclair, William #1, William #2 No James, Lee, Lewis, Lovell or Young 1840 Census for Walker County (just listings of heads of household): James: Abner, Pleasant, Saml, Sherrod Jones: Elizabeth, Henry S., James A., John, Sarah, Wallace, William #1, William #2 Young: John No Lee, Lewis or Lovell 1850 Census for Walker County (listings of number of all persons of the same surname: James:0 Jones: 74 "Jane": 6 (not sure if this is a typo for either James or Jones) "Janes": 3 (not sure if this is a typo for either James or Jones) Lee: 0 Lewis: 3 (and I believe they're mine) Lovell: 0 Young: 0 1850 Census for Hancock County (listings of number of all persons with the same surname): James: 36 Jones: 0 "Janes": 13 (not sure if this a typo for James or Jones) Lee: 0 Lewis: 0 Lovell: 0 Young: 13 One thing it seems to me is that the John Young family of the 1840 Walker County census may have been in the part of the county that was used to form Hancock (Winston) County. I'll have to do more research in the census to be sure of that but it looks that way so far. Either that or the John Young family up and left Walker County altogether prior to 1850. Here are my Cullman County (and area) surnames and ancestors: James (only a hunch but I suspect I have this ancestry. Also this is a collateral line in Jefferson County connected with the Jones, Fulmer and Faucette families there) Jones: so far just my gg-grandmother, Elizabeth "Betsie" P(aralee?) Jones Young whose parents are still unknown to me. But also a collateral line in Jefferson Co as I stated above. Lee: (only a hunch but I suspect we have direct Lee ancestry as well. For now I know that my great-grandfather Adolphus "Dolphus" Ervin/Irvin Young had a first wife (who was not my great-grandmother) - Mary Elizabeth Lee, daughter of David J. Lee, granddaughter of Leander Lee who was originally from NC (county so far unknown to me) then to Gilmer Co, GA (1840 & 1850 censuses). Lee is also a direct line of my Roy cousins in Jefferson Co. They connect to the Lees of Shelby Co, AL. Lewis: my ggg-grandparents John & Mary Hale(Hall?) Lewis (originally from SC? then to Haralson Co, GA eventually to the Cullman Co area; my gg-grandparents James Clark & Mary Jane Lovell Lewis then to my great-grandmother - Mary Ellen Lewis - Adolphus Ervin Young's second wife. James Clark Lewis, Mary Jane Lovell Lewis & Mary Ellen Lewis Young are all buried in Vance Cemetery, Jones Chapel, Cullman County. Lovell: my ggg-grandparents Elijah E. & Mary Ann Davis Lovell - also originally from the Gilmer/Rabun/Fannin counties area in GA - same as Leander Lee. They are both buried at Jones Chapel Cemetery, Cullman County. Young: my gg-grandparents, Wesley & Elizabeth "Betsie" P(aralee?) Jones Young; my great-grandparents Adolphus Ervin & Mary Ellen Lewis Young; my grandmother: Zora Belle Young Stolarski Jernigan of Jefferson Co, AL. Wesley Young's parents are also unknown to me. I also don't know when or where either Wesley or Betsie P Jones Young died and I don't know where either of them are buried. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN

Hi Carolyn: Thanks for the Young information. There may be a connection with my families. I'm researching the various censuses of the area right now to see where and when some of the connected families (Young, Jones, Lee, James, Lewis, Lovell) came to the Cullman County area - particularly around Jones Chapel but not exclusively there. My theory is that many of these families are connected and possibly have connections elsewhere - like Georgia and/or Tennessee. So it's very likely that they passed through other places in Alabama and some may have decided to stay there awhile. Thanks again. I'll keep you in mind as I'm doing my research. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN

The Mandy Young I was referring to, that was the first wife of my GGF, her married name was Mandy Young Alvis, hence the Daniel was named Daniel Alvis, not Young. After rereading my post about my Young connection in Morgan County, I can see I wasnt too clear with my names and apologize for any confusion. My GGF was named Gabriel Alexander Alvis, Jr, and married a Mandy Young of Morgan County, in 1881. Mandy died of possible epilepsy when Daniel was young, and Gabriel, or "Alex", as he was known, went on to remarry and raised a large family-his second wife was my GGM. If this does turn out to be some of your line, let me know, as I have a little bit more info on Mandy`s husband, Gabriel, if you are interested in any collateral info. Anyway, good luck with your research on this line! Carolyn

Blount County News & Disptach Blountsville, Alabama 5-23-1889 Born--Near Hendrick, Ala., on the 7th of May, 1889, to Mr. T.A. Baker and wife--a son. One negro cut another so badly at Bangor on Saturday night that the wounded man is almost certain to die. No arrests have been made. The Tax Collector's Sale of lands, upon which taxes have not been paid, came off on Monday, and every piece sold. Individuals bought it all, and the State failed to get any. Married--At Oneonta, Blount county, Ala., on the 19th of May, 1889, by A.J. Ingram, Esq., Mr. Sylvester Kennedy to Miss Ella Tyler. On the 8th of May, 1889, near Hendrick, Blount county, Ala., by Amos W. Fowler, Esq., Charles Spivey to Miss Sugaine Tally. Died--Five miles east of Blountsville, Ala., on the 19th of May, 1889, of heart disease, Mrs. Caroline Nelson, aged about 46 years. She was a sister to Messers. Lemuel and Turner Benley. Near Gibb's Chapel, at the residence of her son, Mr. harvey Gibbs, on the 17th of May, 1889, Mrs. Rebecca Gibbs nee Mashburn, a native of Burke county, N.C., aged 85 years, 1 month and 4 days. For the past sixty years she had been a member of the M.E. Church, and died in a full faith of a glorious hereafter. Another Killing at Blount Springs A Man and a Brother Shoots Another Blount Springs, Ala., May 20th, 1889. Messers. Editors--George Wilson and Jim Roundtree, (both colored), while at meeting last night fell out and got into a row about a colored damsel. Wilson invited Roundtree a few steps from the church door, and then drew a pistol, fired and shot him in the side slightly. Then Roundtree drew his pistol and shot Wilson twice; one shot took effect in the neck, the other one in the cheek. Wilson died instantly, and Roundtree disappeared, and it could not be ascertained whether he was badly shot not. Public opinion says Roundtree was justifiable. Blountsville, Ala., May 15th, 1889 Mr. Richard-- Sweet Old Rich: As it is May, most dear sweet heart, I will grasp the opportunity to tell you "maybe" I love you and "maybe" I don't; "maybe" I will marry you (I will if pa and ma will let me) and "maybe" I won't. Dear Richard what are you mad at me about? I am not mad at you at all. "Maybe" I love you better than anybody that ever lived, (I have told you so about a dozen times, but you don't seem to take a hint.) "Maybe" I heard you was saving up money to go West, and "maybe" we had just as well marry now as any time. Answer this soon, quick and fast, as I am anxious to hear from you. Your Own Sweet Little Darling, Tabitha Martha. (The above unique epistle was found on the streeets, and we withhold names.--Eds.)

Blount County News & Dispatch Blountsville, Alabama 5-30-1889 The Missionary Baptists held services at Blountsvislle on Saturday and Sunday. Besides Pastor May and Dr. W.M. Cole, Prof. W.Y. Adams, of Walnut Grove, and Dr. P.M. Musgrove, of Cullman, were present. Something New: A.E. Fields has added an Undertaking branch to his already extensive business. He keeps all kinds of Caskets, Coffins, Burial Caskets and Robes, etc., in stock, and can supply those needing them on application. Prices ranging from the lowest to the highest. Blountsville, Ala., May 23, 1889. Mr. P.W. Cowden and wife are happy over the advent of a little girl at their residence. Dr. M.L. Posey moved from here, last week to Mount Pinson. The people here (Remlap) regret his leaving. Died--At Hood's X-roads, Blount county, Ala., on the 23rd day of May, 1889, of congestion of the stomach, Mrs. Mattie Donehoo, nee Lamb. She had been married only 25 days at the time of her death, and was about twenty-two years old. on the 24th inst., three miles north of town, Linton, the 18 months old son of Mr. Thos. Wright and wife. We are sorry to hear that Mrs. Octavio Ridgeway, of the Wynnville neighborhood, had the misfortune to break her leg above the ankle on Sunday the 19th inst., as she was returning from Pleasant Hill. One of the mules shied at some thing and Mrs. Ridgeway jumped out of the wagon, thereby spraining her ankle and breaking her leg above the sprain. To make matters worse her baby is little more than a month old. Mrs. Celine Chamblee was thrown out of her buggy and severely hurt on Sunday about 5 o'clock p.m., as she was returning from a visit to her sick brother, Mr. Doc Graves. When about two miles east of here, the mule got frightened and ran the buggy against a tree flinging the old lady and her granddaughter violently out, and knocking the vehicle into smithereens. Mrs. Chamblee having already been a cripple is badly injured, and at last accounts was resting easily at Mr. Hazel Culbreath's residence, near where the accident occurred. Chancery Court was in session on Monday and Tuesday, Chancellor Cobbs presiding. The following cases were disposed of: W.P. Newman vs. Martha Newman; divorce. Granted upon the payment of cost. Henry Pressley vs. Elizabeth Pressley; divorce. Granted upon the payment of cost. James A. Doss vs. Oney Doss; divorce. Granted upon the payment of the costs. Daniel A. Treece vs. S.H.C. Johnson, decree in favor of complainant for $1,625.00 and costs of suit, to be paid by the 1st day of Jan. 1890. Sale of the lands ordered in default of payment. B.J. Ervin vs. A.E. Acton and Jasper M. Foust. report of the Register confirmed and sale of land ordered. Amos E. Lawrence vs. Nancy J. Puckett and M.P. Lawrence. Dismissed. Geo. W. Montgomery vs. Thos. Gamble et als. report of the Register confirmed. Decree against Gamble for the costs. Thos. S. Easterwood vs. Catherine Easterwood; divorce. Granted upon the payment of the costs. N.L. Yarborough vs. Ida Yarborough; divorce. Granted upon the payment of the costs. K.N. Hunter vs. Nora Hunter; divorce. Granted upon the payment of the costs. Jenira Fields vs. Reynold Collins; trespass. Heard on motions to disolve injunction on denials in the answer, and motion overruled.

Blount County News & Dispatch Blountsville, Alabama 7-16-1889 Mr. J.S. Palmer, of Remlap, came to town on Saturday, and gave the necessary bond and had Marion Atkinson released. Robert F. Jones and W.W. Johnson, of Blount Springs, two of Blount's best colored teachers were in to see us on Saturday. We are sorry to learn that Mr. John H. Stracener had the misfortune to lose one entire finger and a portion of two other fingers off of his right hand, by a slab saw near Oneonta, one day last week. We are sorry to hear that Mrs. I.M. Hill, the venerable mother, of W.T. Hill and J.A. Hill, of Pocohontas Beat, this county, was accidently killed in Columbus, Ga., on the 2d inst. While walking on the side walk she encountered a run away horse and vehicle, the shaft of the latter striking her in the side fatally. She was 63 years old but hale and hearty for her age; seven children grown to manhood and womanhood survive her, and mourn her sad fate. Died--In Blountsville, Ala., on the 7th of July, 1889, after a long illness, Mrs. Bill Mitchell, aged about 70 years. Near Liberty, Ala., on the 7th inst., of consumption, Mr. David Gentrey, age about 21 years. In Summit Beat, Blount County, Ala., on the 6th inst. of consumption, Miss Tiddie Hall, aged about 20 years. In Pocohontas Beat, on the 7th inst., Mrs. Kate Norris, aged about 60 years. On the 4th of July, 1889, at the residence of Mr. T.M. Horton, the father of the bride, Nectar, Blount county, Ala., by Wm. Tidmore, Esq., Mr. Wm. Standridge to Miss E.M. Horton. (**The bride & groom are your transcriber's GGgrandparents**) Endurance Academy opened its doors last Monday under favorable auspices. Prof. A.A. Murphree, who is in charge, is worthy and well qualified for the position. E.M. Cowden and wife are happy over the late arrival of a boy at their house. Wynnville, Ala. (July 8th, '89) Messers. Editors:--Again I ask a small space in your valuable paper. Health of the people good. Corn crops fine; cotton late but forming well. The oat crop is short. The first Monday in August is the day for the court-house election. How is it to go? I for one hope that the tax payers of Blount county, will in this election, look well to their own interest and see if they can see any use of voting removal at present. I cannot. Citizens, we have a good court-house, and it is paid for, and I do not believe there are many fond enough of paying double tax to build another one. I hope one and all will consider everything in this matter and vote to save our money and build up our county with good roads and bridges and let Blountsville hold the court-hours. Yet I must say I am willing to a Democratic rule--the majority. Democrat. Election Notice State of Alabama Bount County Notice is hereby given that an election will be held in the various precincts in said county, on Monday, the 5th day of August, 1889, to permanently locate the county side of Blount County. Each voter shall have endorsed in writing, or printed on his ticket, "Removal," or "No Removal" Allen H. Morris Sheriff Blount Co., Ala.

The Blount County News & Dispatch Blountsville, Alabama 8-1-1889 Died--In Blountsville, Ala. on the 24th of July, 1889, Naomi, the 6 months old daughter of Mr. David Ballew. Mrs. B. died a few weeks ago. Six miles northeast of Blountsville, Ala., on the 25th of July, the 3 months old babe of Mr. & Mrs. E.H. O'Neal, of Birmingham. Born--Near Anderton, Blount county, a few days ago, to Mr. H.H. Marsh and wife--a daughter. In Blountsville, Ala., on the 26th of July, 1889, to Mr. James Warren and wife--a daughter. In Hanceville, Ala., on the 24th of July, 1889, to Mr. Asa Griffith and wife--a daughter. Deputy Marshalls Byars and Reed were up to Brooksville last week and arrested Messrs Jas. Lee and John Kenny, charged with dealing in illicit whiskey. About a dozen of Brooksville folks passed through here early on Monday morning on their way to Birmingham, and returned the same night at a late hour, but we have not heard the result. Brooksville had a licensed grocery until recently, and these arrests are the fruits of so-called prohibition. Parson May preached to the Baptists of Blountsville on Saturday and Sunday. the protracted meeting has been postponed. The Rev. C.C. O'Neal left here Monday to attend a protracted meeting in progress in the M.E. Church, South. Chepultepec. Mr. Travers Byars, has been licensed to preach by the M.E. Church, South, and delivered his first sermon at Bangor on Sunday last. It was a creditable effort. Remlap Dots: Rev. Wm. Hullett is quite sick. Hope he will soon be well. His son Rodolfus, is here on a visit to parents and friends. Washington & Co.'s sawmill has arrived and will soon be cutting lumber. M.F. Grubbs, the fruit tree man, of Anderton, was in town on Thursday. Watermelons are in, and the boys say they are going to make a raid on Mr. Austin Miles' patch some night. Hanceville, Ala. (July 27, 1889) Jas. Griffith came home three days ago with his right arm badly torn. He is in the employ of the L & N Railroad, and was hurt near Phelan Station. He is doing well under the skillful treatment of Dr. F. A. Gillespie. Mr. and Mrs. Asa Griffith are extremely happy over the birth of a daughter. May it live to be a well-spring of pleasure to them through life.

In a message dated 11/3/2005 1:45:38 AM Central Standard Time, RnCarolyn114@aol.com writes: > There were also a line of Young`s that lived in Morgan County around that > time. Not sure if this is the same line as you are looking for or not, but > might > be worth checking into. My GGF first wife was named Mandy Young-they were > married in May 1881, according to LDS records, and had one son named Daniel. > > She died from possibly epilepsy, when Daniel and he went on to remarry and > > start another family. Anyway, just wondered if this poss. could be some of > your > line? > Carolyn > > It could be. Thanks I'll check it out. I did find through searching and searching yesterday that two neighbors of Daniel Young's were related families - Leander Lee and Franklin Jones. And Leander Lee had a granddaughter, Mary Elizabeth Lee, who was my great grandfather Adolphus Ervin Young's first wife. My great-grandmother was his second wife. Leander was in Gilmer Co, GA in the 1840 and 1850 censuses. In Winston County for the 1860 and 1870 censuses. He was born in North Carolina around 1815. As was his wife, Sarah "Sally" (maiden unknown). They were still in North Carolina just before the 1840 census and their first son was born there. But after searching and searching online I haven't found where in North Carolina and I can't find Leander's parents. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN

There were also a line of Young`s that lived in Morgan County around that time. Not sure if this is the same line as you are looking for or not, but might be worth checking into. My GGF first wife was named Mandy Young-they were married in May 1881, according to LDS records, and had one son named Daniel. She died from possibly epilepsy, when Daniel and he went on to remarry and start another family. Anyway, just wondered if this poss. could be some of your line? Carolyn

In a message dated 10/31/2005 6:11:22 AM Central Standard Time, peggy1@network-one.com writes: > You would per chance have any info on the following Young Family would you? > My line goes like Peter Young (1784) born PA, Stephen (Steve) W., (abt 1830) > born AL, William Young (1860)born Itawamba County, MS, Berry W. Young > (1891)born Calhoun County, MS. > It doesn't sound familiar. Were they in Cullman County at one time? I'll be on the lookout for them while I search for my Youngs there. Incidentally, I've found there was more than one Young line in Cullman County and some of the later ones were German emigrants whose name was originally Jung. I don't think that my original line was a German family. They were probably originally Scots from South Carolina. Have you found your family in any censuses for either Walker, Winston, Hancock or Cullman counties? And do you know what section of the county they were in and what year censuses they were? Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN PS I think that my Youngs were also associated with the following families: Jones, Lee and James. They were supposedly some of the earliest families in the area now called Jones Chapel in west Cullman County.

You would per chance have any info on the following Young Family would you? My line goes like Peter Young (1784) born PA, Stephen (Steve) W., (abt 1830) born AL, William Young (1860)born Itawamba County, MS, Berry W. Young (1891)born Calhoun County, MS. ----- Original Message ----- From: <FINCH64@aol.com> To: <ALCULLMA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: [ALCULLMA] My Young family in the 1860-1910 censuses > My second cousin was researching our Young family history but she has since > passed away. According to what she found - Wesley Young and Elizabeth "Betsie" > P(aralee?) Jones Young were my great-great grandparents. Barbara only found > Wesley in one census in 1860 in Winston County, Alabama. According to family > history Wesley died during the Civil War of disease. Adolphus "Dolphus" Ervin > Young, their son, was my great-grandfather. He was married twice - both times to > women whose initials were M. E. L. I have joked that his first wife must have > had monogrammed possessions and he married his second wife because she had the > same initials so she could use his first wife's possessions. > > At any rate his first wife was Mary Elizabeth Lee. I don't know who her > parents were. They were married in Cullman County, Alabama on 19 Nov 1882. I don't > know if they divorced or if she died or what happened but by 22 Apr 1908 he > married his second wife, my great-grandmother, Mary Ellen Lewis, in Cullman > County, Alabama. According to what Barbara Handley found, Mary Ellen already had a > daughter, Gertrude Velma, from a previous relationship. Barbara told me that > Mary Ellen was never married to Gertrude's father. My mom told me that she > heard that when Dolphus married Mary Ellen Lewis - they both had been married > before and had several children from those marriages. I think it's possible that > Dolphus' kids from his first marriage all got married and moved away from home > and his first wife died and then he met and married Mary Ellen Lewis who > already had Gertrude. Barbara Handley told me that Dolphus adopted Gertrude and > she took his last name. > > My grandmother, Zora Belle Young was born 14 Dec 1910 in Flat Creek, > Jefferson County, Alabama. Another sister, Geneva was born shortly after and then a > brother, Casey, but he died at a very young age. > > All of these people eventually settled and lived in Jefferson County, some of > them married there and raised families there. > > Samuel Robert Young married Eunice Fulmer. Lucy Paralee Young married Andrew > Marvin Kirkpatrick in Culllman County but they moved to Jefferson County. > Lydia E. Young married H. N. McGraw. My grandmother, Zora Belle Young moved to New > Orleans for awhile and met and married Stanley Stolarski. They had one son, > my uncle Frank Stolarski. My grandmother left Stanley when she found out he was > already married. She moved back to Alabama and met and married my > grandfather, Frankie William Jernigan. Gertrude married Rufus Cecil Coley and Geneva > married Luther "Luke" Handley. They were Barbara Handley's parents. Alot of the > Coleys and Handleys still live in the Birmingham, Alabama area. > > 21 July 1860, Township 10 Range 5, Winston County, P.O: Houston > Dwelling 243/ Family 243: > Wesley Young, 23, Farmer, Personal estate:100; born in Alabama; Married > within the year > Elizabeth Young, 26, born in Georgia; Married within the year > > 5 July 1870, Township 11, Winston County, P.O.: Houston > Dwelling 16/ Family 16: > Elizabeth Young, 36, Housekeeper, Real estate:150, Personal estate:100; born > in Georgia > Martha A. R. Young, 9, born in Alabama > Adolphus E. Young, 7, born in Alabama > Cintha L. Young, 3 months, born in Alabama in March,1870 > > 18 June 1880, Township 10 Range 5 West, Cullman County, District 47 (Beat 7) > Dwelling 116/ Family 119: > Elizabeth Young, 45, Widowed, Keeping house, born in Georgia, both parents > born in Georgia > Martha A. R. Young, 19, Daughter, Single, Works on farm, Attended school > within the year, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia > Dolphus E. Young, 17, Son, Single, Works on farm, Attended school within the > year, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia > Cintha S. L. Young, 10, Daughter, Works on farm, Attended school within the > year, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia > > 25 June 1900, Precinct 9, Cullman County, Hunters (District 57) > Dwelling 208/ Family 208: > D. E. Young, Head, born Mar 1863, 37, Married for 17 years, born in Alabama, > father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia, Drygoodesalesman > Mary E. Young, Wife, born in 1865, 39, Married for 17 years, Has 4 children, > All 4 children are still living, born in Alabama, father born in Georgia, > mother born in Georgia > Samuel Young, Son, born in Sep 1883, 16, born in Alabama, both parents born > in Alabama, Farm laborer > Lucy Young, Daughter, born in Sep 1886, 13, born in Alabama, both parents > born in Alabama > Liddia Young, Daughter, born in Sep 1888, 11, born in Alabama, both parents > born in Alabama > "Eliza?" E. Young, Daughter, born in July 1891, 8, born in Alabama, both > parents born in Alabama > > 27 April 1910, Palos (Beat No. 19), Jefferson County, Alabama (District 115) > Dwelling 217/ Family 217: > Dolphus E. Young, Head, 47, Marriage 2, Married for 2 years, born in Alabama, > both parents born in Alabama, Driver, Wagon > Mary E. Young, Wife, 27, Marriage 1, Married for 2 years, Has one child, That > one child is still living, born in Georgia, both parents born in Georgia > Gertrude Young, Daughter, 8, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother > born in Georgia > > And then I lose the family. Not sure where they were in 1920 but probably > still in Jefferson County possibly in or near New Castle. According to family > history, Dolphus's second wife, Mary Ellen Lewis Young (my great-grandmother) > died there on 22 Feb 1922. She is buried at Vance Cemetery in Jones Chapel, > Cullman County, Alabama. Dolphus died in New Castle on 16 Jan 1925. I don't know > where he was buried. He is not buried at the Vance Cemetery with Mary Ellen > Lewis Young. She is buried with her parents, James Clark Lewis and Mary Jane > Lovell Lewis. > > Barry Jernigan > Murfreesboro, TN > > PS I'll tell more about my other Cullman County families (Lewis and Lovell) > in later posts on the list. > > > ==== ALCULLMA Mailing List ==== > CULLMAN COUNTY RESOURCE PAGE IS AT > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/AL/Cullman/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

My second cousin was researching our Young family history but she has since passed away. According to what she found - Wesley Young and Elizabeth "Betsie" P(aralee?) Jones Young were my great-great grandparents. Barbara only found Wesley in one census in 1860 in Winston County, Alabama. According to family history Wesley died during the Civil War of disease. Adolphus "Dolphus" Ervin Young, their son, was my great-grandfather. He was married twice - both times to women whose initials were M. E. L. I have joked that his first wife must have had monogrammed possessions and he married his second wife because she had the same initials so she could use his first wife's possessions. At any rate his first wife was Mary Elizabeth Lee. I don't know who her parents were. They were married in Cullman County, Alabama on 19 Nov 1882. I don't know if they divorced or if she died or what happened but by 22 Apr 1908 he married his second wife, my great-grandmother, Mary Ellen Lewis, in Cullman County, Alabama. According to what Barbara Handley found, Mary Ellen already had a daughter, Gertrude Velma, from a previous relationship. Barbara told me that Mary Ellen was never married to Gertrude's father. My mom told me that she heard that when Dolphus married Mary Ellen Lewis - they both had been married before and had several children from those marriages. I think it's possible that Dolphus' kids from his first marriage all got married and moved away from home and his first wife died and then he met and married Mary Ellen Lewis who already had Gertrude. Barbara Handley told me that Dolphus adopted Gertrude and she took his last name. My grandmother, Zora Belle Young was born 14 Dec 1910 in Flat Creek, Jefferson County, Alabama. Another sister, Geneva was born shortly after and then a brother, Casey, but he died at a very young age. All of these people eventually settled and lived in Jefferson County, some of them married there and raised families there. Samuel Robert Young married Eunice Fulmer. Lucy Paralee Young married Andrew Marvin Kirkpatrick in Culllman County but they moved to Jefferson County. Lydia E. Young married H. N. McGraw. My grandmother, Zora Belle Young moved to New Orleans for awhile and met and married Stanley Stolarski. They had one son, my uncle Frank Stolarski. My grandmother left Stanley when she found out he was already married. She moved back to Alabama and met and married my grandfather, Frankie William Jernigan. Gertrude married Rufus Cecil Coley and Geneva married Luther "Luke" Handley. They were Barbara Handley's parents. Alot of the Coleys and Handleys still live in the Birmingham, Alabama area. 21 July 1860, Township 10 Range 5, Winston County, P.O: Houston Dwelling 243/ Family 243: Wesley Young, 23, Farmer, Personal estate:100; born in Alabama; Married within the year Elizabeth Young, 26, born in Georgia; Married within the year 5 July 1870, Township 11, Winston County, P.O.: Houston Dwelling 16/ Family 16: Elizabeth Young, 36, Housekeeper, Real estate:150, Personal estate:100; born in Georgia Martha A. R. Young, 9, born in Alabama Adolphus E. Young, 7, born in Alabama Cintha L. Young, 3 months, born in Alabama in March,1870 18 June 1880, Township 10 Range 5 West, Cullman County, District 47 (Beat 7) Dwelling 116/ Family 119: Elizabeth Young, 45, Widowed, Keeping house, born in Georgia, both parents born in Georgia Martha A. R. Young, 19, Daughter, Single, Works on farm, Attended school within the year, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia Dolphus E. Young, 17, Son, Single, Works on farm, Attended school within the year, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia Cintha S. L. Young, 10, Daughter, Works on farm, Attended school within the year, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia 25 June 1900, Precinct 9, Cullman County, Hunters (District 57) Dwelling 208/ Family 208: D. E. Young, Head, born Mar 1863, 37, Married for 17 years, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia, Drygoodesalesman Mary E. Young, Wife, born in 1865, 39, Married for 17 years, Has 4 children, All 4 children are still living, born in Alabama, father born in Georgia, mother born in Georgia Samuel Young, Son, born in Sep 1883, 16, born in Alabama, both parents born in Alabama, Farm laborer Lucy Young, Daughter, born in Sep 1886, 13, born in Alabama, both parents born in Alabama Liddia Young, Daughter, born in Sep 1888, 11, born in Alabama, both parents born in Alabama "Eliza?" E. Young, Daughter, born in July 1891, 8, born in Alabama, both parents born in Alabama 27 April 1910, Palos (Beat No. 19), Jefferson County, Alabama (District 115) Dwelling 217/ Family 217: Dolphus E. Young, Head, 47, Marriage 2, Married for 2 years, born in Alabama, both parents born in Alabama, Driver, Wagon Mary E. Young, Wife, 27, Marriage 1, Married for 2 years, Has one child, That one child is still living, born in Georgia, both parents born in Georgia Gertrude Young, Daughter, 8, born in Alabama, father born in Alabama, mother born in Georgia And then I lose the family. Not sure where they were in 1920 but probably still in Jefferson County possibly in or near New Castle. According to family history, Dolphus's second wife, Mary Ellen Lewis Young (my great-grandmother) died there on 22 Feb 1922. She is buried at Vance Cemetery in Jones Chapel, Cullman County, Alabama. Dolphus died in New Castle on 16 Jan 1925. I don't know where he was buried. He is not buried at the Vance Cemetery with Mary Ellen Lewis Young. She is buried with her parents, James Clark Lewis and Mary Jane Lovell Lewis. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN PS I'll tell more about my other Cullman County families (Lewis and Lovell) in later posts on the list.

Very interesting stuff. Does anyone know if there is a published history for Hopewell Church and Cemetery in Hanceville? I have relatives buried there who are connected to the Edwards family of Blount/Cullman cos. An elderly cousin told me that someone way back who was related had donated the land to the cemetery and church. I would like to find out more about it. Thanks, Karla

WOODRUFFS Chapel Submitted by Mary McPherson <mailto:> Can anyone give us more information or an exact loaction for this church and cemetery? The Building was originally used as a community building for all sects. On 11 Aug 1857 NATHAN WATSON for the sum of $15.00 deeded the 10 1/2 acres on which the church building, graveyard and spring existed to the trustees of the Methodist Church with MATHEW WOODRUFF and DRURY MCPHERSON. First of all, I don't find a deed from Nathan Watson to either Mathew Woodruff or Drury McPherson. I looked in the Grantor Index period from 1820-1900. I also looked in the Grantee Index for the same period. Both Nathan Watson & Mathew Woodruff are listed on the 1860 Blount Co. AL census as residents of the Western Division (Summit Post Office) of Blount Co. I don't find Mathew Woodruff in the 1870 census but Nathan Watson is listed in the Thacker's Creek area. The GNIS page lists Thacker's Creek over in today's Cullman Co. The 1855 Blount Co. AL Tract book shows entries for Nathan Watson in Township 11S, Range 2W, Sec. 17 and Sec. 20. It also shows entries for Mathew Woodruff in Sec. 22 and 23 (same Township and Range) Using the Township/Range maps, and assuming Watson gave land that was in all probability part of his homestead, it appears the land would have been somewhere in the vicinity of Hanceville. This is only an assumption because I've not located an actual deed. Hopewell is a possibility because Nathan Watson's daughter Elizabeth (Mrs. Jonathan Burns) is buried there.

I found the following in Cullman County Churches and Cemeteries: Vance Cemetery - Lewis, Jane, June 21, 1856 - May 25, 1921, w/o J.C.; Lewis, J. C., June 3, 1854 - June 8, 1924; Young, Mary E. (Lewis), Jan 8, 1882 - Feb. 22, 1922; only other surnames in cemetery are Vance, Cook, Hopper and Williams - any of these related to Lewis and Young there? Jones Chapel Cemetery - Allen, Bell Zora, Nov. 3, 1884 - Jan. 29, 1961; Lovell, Elijah, March 4, 1833 - July 10, 1895; Lovell, Etter, w/o J.R., July 6, 1895 - June 5, 1925; Lovell, Lonie W., June 14, 1897 - Sept. 11, 1900; Lovell, Mary A. w/o E., Sept. 28, 1833 - March 25, 1899; Lovell, Texana V., d/o E. and M. A., April 2, 1866 - April 13, 1902; Lovell, W. M., Aug. 20, 1851 - Dec. 13, 1895; Lovell, William Isaac, Dec. 15, 1875 - Aug. 7, 1902; Young, D. H., March 13, 1814 - March 7, 1878; Young, Mary E., Nov. 16, 1864 - Dec. 20, 1905; Young, W. M., s/o W.W., no dates Lewis, Jane is Mary Jane Lovell Lewis Lewis, J. C. is her husband, James Clark Lewis Young, Mary E. (Lewis) is their daughter, the wife of Adolphus Ervin Young, my great-grandfather. Are the other families in Vance Cemetery related to my family? Lovell, Elijah is Elijah Lovell Lovell, Mary A. is his wife, Mary Ann (Davis?) Lovell. They are the parents of Mary Jane Lovell Lewis. I don't know who all the other Lovells are except maybe Texana V. Lovell. I don't recognize the other Youngs in Jones Chapel Cemetery. Adolphus Ervin Young's parents were Wesley Young (supposedly died during the Civil War of disease - place of burial not even known) and Elizabeth "Betsie" Jones (I don't know when she died or where she is buried.) According to the book, Jones Chapel United Methodist was founded around 1800 and some of the earliest families included Young and Jones. Are these my Young and Jones ancestors? My grandmother's name was Zora Bell Young Jernigan. I find it interesting to find a woman with a similar name is buried with my grandmother's family at Jones Chapel. I am wondering if maybe Bell Zora Allen may have been a relative as well. In the Winston County census of 1860 is the only record of Wesley Young and Elizabeth Jones. Nearby are families which appear to be neighbors. The patriarchs are men well into their middle ages - Daniel Young and Franklin Jones. Elizabeth Young appears with her children in later censuses. If any of this rings a bell with anyone, please let me know. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN

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A memorial service for Anneliese Kunz Mize, wife of Joel S. Mize of Lakewood, Colorado, will be held at the 9th Avenue Church of Christ in Haleyville, Sunday afternoon, October 16th at 2 p.m. with ministers Arvy Dupuy and Andy Kizer officiating. A graveside service will follow at the Whitehouse Church Cemetery just off highway 278 in Marion County at 3:30 p.m. Family, friends, neighbors, genealogy correspondants and former classmates and teammates at Haleyville High School are invited to gather with Joel and his family as they remember the life of their loved one. Joel S. Mize Unionists of the Warrior Mountains of Alabama