Carolyn, His name is Robin Sterling. His email address is: bobwonda@hiwaay.net Carole On Nov 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, RnCarolyn114@aol.com wrote: > I have lived in Cullman al of my life, but have never heard of this > grave > yard-would be interested to hear if anyone has any info about it. It > is not > listed in Robin`s cemetery book (cant think of his last name at the > moment), > where he has transcribed and included a pic of each cemetery in > Cullman, so I`m > thinking that perhaps this cemetery doesnt exist anymore. He has a > listing > for the oldesnt known grave in Cullman County recorded in there. If > anyone has > his em address, he might could possibly shed some light on this-he > would > certainly be the person to ask, in my book Those of you who were > familiar with > his on-line site, before he took it down, will know who I`m talking > about.. > Unfortunately, I did not make a record of his em address before the > site went > down, but maybe someone from this list will have it, and can write to > him. > Carolyn > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will > attend to problems as soon as possible. > > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be > banned from the list. > ~Jayne Holland~ List Moderator > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have lived in Cullman al of my life, but have never heard of this grave yard-would be interested to hear if anyone has any info about it. It is not listed in Robin`s cemetery book (cant think of his last name at the moment), where he has transcribed and included a pic of each cemetery in Cullman, so I`m thinking that perhaps this cemetery doesnt exist anymore. He has a listing for the oldesnt known grave in Cullman County recorded in there. If anyone has his em address, he might could possibly shed some light on this-he would certainly be the person to ask, in my book Those of you who were familiar with his on-line site, before he took it down, will know who I`m talking about.. Unfortunately, I did not make a record of his em address before the site went down, but maybe someone from this list will have it, and can write to him. Carolyn

here is a site that I came across dealing with Doctoring in Cullman County before 1900 if you haven't seen it check it out several area names are in it as well as dates for Yellow Fever and other epidemics of the times. _http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3880/is_199807/ai_n8806014/pg_1_ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3880/is_199807/ai_n8806014/pg_1) Angela Jones Harlan

Seen references of Gibson's Graveyard in the Cullman Alabama Tribune of 1892. Apparently near the "Iron Bridge" in the Grandview community near Bethsadia. Anyone provide an exact location? Seems to be missing from any of the cemetery books.

In a message dated 11/18/2006 11:20:58 PM Central Standard Time, FINCH64@aol.com writes: > Lucky Puckett Shoemaker Sorry this should be Lucy Puckett Shoemaker Barry Jernigan

I did some research in the Virginia Historical Index and discovered the following entries and subjects pertaining to them: 7C451 (Page 451 of the 7th volume of Calendar of Virginia State Papers which would cover the period from January 1, 1794 to May 16, 1795 mentions a Caleb Friley 8C356 (Page 356 of the 89th volume of Calendar of Virginia State Papers which would cover the period from May 16, 1795 to December 31, 1798 mentions: "Mr. Friley, scout" 36V84-86 (Pages 84 through 86 of the 36th volume of the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography (1928) mentions the following: Benjamin Fraley, Catherine Shoemaker Fraley, Will of Chloe Fraley, Donahoe Fraley, Frederick Fraley, Henry Fraley, Isaac Fraley, James Fraley, Judith Fraley, Nancy Fraley, Reuben Fraley, Sarah Fraley, Taber Fraley, William Fraley, John Jones, Alexander Shoemaker, Catherine Shoemaker, Elizabeth Shoemaker, Will of James Shoemaker, Jane Shoemaker, Joseph Shoemaker, Judith Shoemaker and Sarah Shoemaker. There may be mention of other Jones family members in this article but I would have to search through the entire 10 pages chocked full of Jones to find mention of this one article. I'll see about that in the future. 37V72-73 (Pages 72 and 73 of the 37th volume of the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography (1929) mentions the following: Boon Fraley, Henry Fraley, Hugh Fraley, James Fraley, Mary Fraley, Benjamin Shoemaker, Jemima Shoemaker, Leonard Shoemaker, Lucky Puckett Shoemaker, Nancy Shoemaker, Daniel Puckett, Drury (Drewry) Puckett, George Puckett, James Puckett, Jane Puckett, John Puckett, Lucy Puckett, Nancy Puckett, Phebe Puckett, Rebecca Puckett, Robert Puckett, Sally Puckett, Samuel Puckett, William Puckett It might be worthwhile to find copies of these articles. Looks like these families are very likely related in colonial Virginia. Barry Jernigan

Since I posted the below message on Marcus Jones, I have found the marriage date of an Elzora Willard to an Andrew T.A. Jones in Cullman Co. December 12, 1885. I believe that Elzora was daughter of Miles Williard and sister to Nannie Willard Young. I believe that Elzora Willard Jones died by 1900, as her 2 sons are living with their grandfather William M.M. Willard in Cullman Co. in 1900. I believe that the son Monroe Jones was the father of Marcus Jones who was the informant on the death record of Joseph Felix Young who died in 1950 whose wife was Nannie Willard, sister to Elzora Willard Jones. Judy Sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: "James S Sanders" <sandking@usit.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: [ALCULLMA] Marcus Jones,son of Thomas Monroe Jones-possible connections to Williard/Willardsurname > Searching for help on finding information on a Phelix Joseph Young who had > connections to the Jones/Willard families of Cullman Co. > > Phelix Joseph Young died in 1950 in Jefferson Co., AL., but lived in Cullman > Co. in 1910. The informant on his death certificate was a Marcus Jones > whose address was 1734 Berkley Ave., Bessemer, Ala. > > I really don't know who Marcus Jones was, but believe he was some connection > to Phelix Joseph Young's wife who was Nannie Willard Young, daughter of > Miles Willard ( I believe). On her death certificate (she died in 1948), it > appears that it says Miles Willard and the informant for her death record > was a Mrs. T. Jones or so it looked like--so hard to read-very faded record. > > One of Nannie Willard Young's sisters married a Jones--possibly Elzora > Willard. In the 1900 Cullman Co., AL. census, a Monroe Jone and Isaac > Jones are living with William M.M. Willard listed as grandsons. Nannie > Willard is also in this household, as she and Phelix Joseph Young didn't > marry until 1905. > > So I'm thinking that the Marcus Jones who was the informant for Phelix > Young's death records was the great nephew of his wife Nannie Willard Young. > > If anyone knows about this Jones family, let me know. I am really trying to > find further information on Phelix Joseph Young. His obit states that he > had 2 half sisters living in 1950--trying to locate some descendants of > theirs or info on them, as to what became of them. The obit didn't name > them or where they were living. The maiden name of Phelix Joseph's Young's > sisters was Wales--one of them married a J.H. Golden in 1911 in Cullman Co. > Her name was Leitha or Telitha or Leithy--many different spellings of this. > There was also a sister named Martha Wales--don't know what happened to her. > > Anyone that can help on this Jones/Willard/ Young connections, let me Know. > > I just thought that since the Jones family was so closely connected as to be > informants for the death records of Phelix Joseph Young and wife Nannie > Willard Young, that I might find some info about them through someone who > researched Jones or knew about this Marcus Jones. It is quite possible that > this Marcus Jones is still living, as the one I found in census records was > born about 1916. I did find a death record on SSDI for a Marcus M. Jones > born Aug. 25, 1916 and died Oct. 20, 1996 in Calhoun Co. AL. However I have > no idea if this is the same Marcus Jones I am asking about. > > Judy Sanders > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <FINCH64@aol.com> > To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com>; <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:35 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Keeping up with the Joneses > > > > Will of Charlotte Jones, great-granddaughter of William Fryly, both of > > Tyrrell County, North Carolina. Her will is dated 13 Apr 1783 and states > in part: > > > > "Item -- I give and bequeath to my sister Elizabeth Blount all the rest of > my > > Estate not before given to her and her heirs forever." > > > > Abstract of North Carolina Wills has the following information: > > > > <deleted> Blount > > County not given > > Dates missing > > Wife: Elizabeth > > Sons: John and Thomas ("Beech Island land and land on Welches' Creek up > > Moratock;"), Joseph (land at Matchapungo known by name of "Goshan"); James > (land at > > Bear Swamp). > > Daughters: Mary Jacocs, Elizabeth Paget and Martha West. > > Remainder of will is missing. > > > > John Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina > > Will written January 27, 1725-1726 > > Will probated May 18, 1726 > > Sons: John, Thomas (manor, fronting on Albemarle Sound, John to have > eastern > > end and Thomas western portion), James and Charles (land on Welches > Creek), > > Joseph (land at Mattehapungo, known by the name of Goshen). > > Wife: Elizabeth (land at Bear Swamp and at Barrow Hole) > > Daughters: Mary Jacocks, Eliza Paget, Sarah Lovick, Martha Warsley and > Hester > > Worley > > Executrix: Elizabeth Blount (wife), to be assisted by friends John Lovick > and > > Thos. Pollock. > > Witnesses: Samll. Warner, Wm. Benbury, Magnes Plowman. > > Will proven before Richard Everard, Governor, etc. > > Codicil to will of John Blount. Dated January 27, 1725-1726 > > Daughters: Ann and Rachel (a gold ring each). Christopher Gale appointed > > assistant together with Jno. Lovick and Thos. Pollock. Coat of arms on > seal of > > both will and codicil. The testator mentions in the will having broken the > > entail. > > > > Elizabeth Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina > > Will written February 8, 1732 > > Will probated March 12, 1732 > > Sons: John, Thomas, James, Joseph, Charles (to the two latter is > bequeathed > > land at Bare Swamp and Haughton land). > > Daughters: Anne Warley, Rachele. > > Executors: John Lovick, Samll. Pagett and Jonathan Jacocks. > > Witnesses: R. Hicks and Mary Coleson. > > Will proven before George Burrington, at Edenton. A tract of land at > > Barrow's Hole is ordered sold and proceeds applied to payment of doctor. > > > > Frederick Jones, Chowan Precinct, North Carolina > > Will written April 9, 1722 > > Will probated March 26, 1723 > > Sons: William Harding Jones (lands on the south side of Moratoke River), > > Frederick ("all my lands in Craven Precinct"), Thomas (land at Maherrin > and lands > > north side of Moratoke River.). To each of sons is bequeathed one diamond > > ring. Plate divided between sons. > > To Brother: Thomas Jones of Virginia is devised lands in King William > County, > > Virginia called Horns Quarter. > > Daughters: Jane ("Indiane girle, four slaves, diamond ring and diamond > > earrings, Gold watch with chain, seal, etc."), Martha (four young slaves, > one > > diamond ring, diamond earrings, gold shoe-buckles, thimble, etc. and one > dozen > > finest damask napkins, one dozen diaper napkins, Holland sheets, etc.), > Rebeckah > > (one diamond ring, about three dozen damask and diaper napkins, > table-cloths, > > sheets, etc.) > > Executors: Thomas Jones, of Virginia (brother), Wm. Harding and Frederick > > Jones (sons). > > Witnesses: Sarah Stewart, Roger Hazard, John Ansley, Edw'd Moseley. > > Codicil bequeathes gold rings to Rebecah Jones and silver-mounted pistols > to > > Edward Moseley. Proven before C. Gale. Coat of arms on seal. > > > > I wonder if this is the Jones family of Devil John Jones and a possible > > reference to the family's old stomping grounds in Virginia? They seem to > have had > > associations with the Blount family in the same area of North Carolina (on > the > > Moratoke River in Chowan County). Both families also seemed to have been > > fairly important families (both having coat of arms on the seals of their > wills) as > > well. And Frederick Jones was definitely a wealthy man. > > > > It might be worth further research for those who share these lines and > > wondering if I might have more than a few connections myself including > this one: > > > > William Jones, Bertie Precinct, North Carolina > > Will written March 15, 1736 > > Will probated May 20, 1736 > > Son: Ephrame ("plantation whereon I now live") > > Wife: Ann > > Executors: Francis Hopson, Henry Jernigan > > Witnesses: Bennet Blackman, Henry Baker, Jr. > > Will proven before W. Smith, C. J. > > > > Bertie, Tyrrell and Chowan are all in the same general area of North > Carolina > > and at one time some of them were actually parts of the others. Ann > Jernigan > > Jones (William Jones' wife) was a daughter to my ancestors Henry Jernigan > and > > Phebe Blackman. Bennet Blackman was Phebe's brother. > > > > Barry Jernigan > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend > to problems as soon as possible. > > > > you can email me at > > jholland "at" coralwave.com > > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be > banned from the list. > > ~Jayne Holland~ List Moderator > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. > > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be banned from the list. > ~Jayne Holland~ List Moderator > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for help on finding information on a Phelix Joseph Young who had connections to the Jones/Willard families of Cullman Co. Phelix Joseph Young died in 1950 in Jefferson Co., AL., but lived in Cullman Co. in 1910. The informant on his death certificate was a Marcus Jones whose address was 1734 Berkley Ave., Bessemer, Ala. I really don't know who Marcus Jones was, but believe he was some connection to Phelix Joseph Young's wife who was Nannie Willard Young, daughter of Miles Willard ( I believe). On her death certificate (she died in 1948), it appears that it says Miles Willard and the informant for her death record was a Mrs. T. Jones or so it looked like--so hard to read-very faded record. One of Nannie Willard Young's sisters married a Jones--possibly Elzora Willard. In the 1900 Cullman Co., AL. census, a Monroe Jone and Isaac Jones are living with William M.M. Willard listed as grandsons. Nannie Willard is also in this household, as she and Phelix Joseph Young didn't marry until 1905. So I'm thinking that the Marcus Jones who was the informant for Phelix Young's death records was the great nephew of his wife Nannie Willard Young. If anyone knows about this Jones family, let me know. I am really trying to find further information on Phelix Joseph Young. His obit states that he had 2 half sisters living in 1950--trying to locate some descendants of theirs or info on them, as to what became of them. The obit didn't name them or where they were living. The maiden name of Phelix Joseph's Young's sisters was Wales--one of them married a J.H. Golden in 1911 in Cullman Co. Her name was Leitha or Telitha or Leithy--many different spellings of this. There was also a sister named Martha Wales--don't know what happened to her. Anyone that can help on this Jones/Willard/ Young connections, let me Know. I just thought that since the Jones family was so closely connected as to be informants for the death records of Phelix Joseph Young and wife Nannie Willard Young, that I might find some info about them through someone who researched Jones or knew about this Marcus Jones. It is quite possible that this Marcus Jones is still living, as the one I found in census records was born about 1916. I did find a death record on SSDI for a Marcus M. Jones born Aug. 25, 1916 and died Oct. 20, 1996 in Calhoun Co. AL. However I have no idea if this is the same Marcus Jones I am asking about. Judy Sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: <FINCH64@aol.com> To: <aljeffer@rootsweb.com>; <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [ALCULLMA] Keeping up with the Joneses > Will of Charlotte Jones, great-granddaughter of William Fryly, both of > Tyrrell County, North Carolina. Her will is dated 13 Apr 1783 and states in part: > > "Item -- I give and bequeath to my sister Elizabeth Blount all the rest of my > Estate not before given to her and her heirs forever." > > Abstract of North Carolina Wills has the following information: > > <deleted> Blount > County not given > Dates missing > Wife: Elizabeth > Sons: John and Thomas ("Beech Island land and land on Welches' Creek up > Moratock;"), Joseph (land at Matchapungo known by name of "Goshan"); James (land at > Bear Swamp). > Daughters: Mary Jacocs, Elizabeth Paget and Martha West. > Remainder of will is missing. > > John Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina > Will written January 27, 1725-1726 > Will probated May 18, 1726 > Sons: John, Thomas (manor, fronting on Albemarle Sound, John to have eastern > end and Thomas western portion), James and Charles (land on Welches Creek), > Joseph (land at Mattehapungo, known by the name of Goshen). > Wife: Elizabeth (land at Bear Swamp and at Barrow Hole) > Daughters: Mary Jacocks, Eliza Paget, Sarah Lovick, Martha Warsley and Hester > Worley > Executrix: Elizabeth Blount (wife), to be assisted by friends John Lovick and > Thos. Pollock. > Witnesses: Samll. Warner, Wm. Benbury, Magnes Plowman. > Will proven before Richard Everard, Governor, etc. > Codicil to will of John Blount. Dated January 27, 1725-1726 > Daughters: Ann and Rachel (a gold ring each). Christopher Gale appointed > assistant together with Jno. Lovick and Thos. Pollock. Coat of arms on seal of > both will and codicil. The testator mentions in the will having broken the > entail. > > Elizabeth Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina > Will written February 8, 1732 > Will probated March 12, 1732 > Sons: John, Thomas, James, Joseph, Charles (to the two latter is bequeathed > land at Bare Swamp and Haughton land). > Daughters: Anne Warley, Rachele. > Executors: John Lovick, Samll. Pagett and Jonathan Jacocks. > Witnesses: R. Hicks and Mary Coleson. > Will proven before George Burrington, at Edenton. A tract of land at > Barrow's Hole is ordered sold and proceeds applied to payment of doctor. > > Frederick Jones, Chowan Precinct, North Carolina > Will written April 9, 1722 > Will probated March 26, 1723 > Sons: William Harding Jones (lands on the south side of Moratoke River), > Frederick ("all my lands in Craven Precinct"), Thomas (land at Maherrin and lands > north side of Moratoke River.). To each of sons is bequeathed one diamond > ring. Plate divided between sons. > To Brother: Thomas Jones of Virginia is devised lands in King William County, > Virginia called Horns Quarter. > Daughters: Jane ("Indiane girle, four slaves, diamond ring and diamond > earrings, Gold watch with chain, seal, etc."), Martha (four young slaves, one > diamond ring, diamond earrings, gold shoe-buckles, thimble, etc. and one dozen > finest damask napkins, one dozen diaper napkins, Holland sheets, etc.), Rebeckah > (one diamond ring, about three dozen damask and diaper napkins, table-cloths, > sheets, etc.) > Executors: Thomas Jones, of Virginia (brother), Wm. Harding and Frederick > Jones (sons). > Witnesses: Sarah Stewart, Roger Hazard, John Ansley, Edw'd Moseley. > Codicil bequeathes gold rings to Rebecah Jones and silver-mounted pistols to > Edward Moseley. Proven before C. Gale. Coat of arms on seal. > > I wonder if this is the Jones family of Devil John Jones and a possible > reference to the family's old stomping grounds in Virginia? They seem to have had > associations with the Blount family in the same area of North Carolina (on the > Moratoke River in Chowan County). Both families also seemed to have been > fairly important families (both having coat of arms on the seals of their wills) as > well. And Frederick Jones was definitely a wealthy man. > > It might be worth further research for those who share these lines and > wondering if I might have more than a few connections myself including this one: > > William Jones, Bertie Precinct, North Carolina > Will written March 15, 1736 > Will probated May 20, 1736 > Son: Ephrame ("plantation whereon I now live") > Wife: Ann > Executors: Francis Hopson, Henry Jernigan > Witnesses: Bennet Blackman, Henry Baker, Jr. > Will proven before W. Smith, C. J. > > Bertie, Tyrrell and Chowan are all in the same general area of North Carolina > and at one time some of them were actually parts of the others. Ann Jernigan > Jones (William Jones' wife) was a daughter to my ancestors Henry Jernigan and > Phebe Blackman. Bennet Blackman was Phebe's brother. > > Barry Jernigan > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. > > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be banned from the list. > ~Jayne Holland~ List Moderator > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Will of Charlotte Jones, great-granddaughter of William Fryly, both of Tyrrell County, North Carolina. Her will is dated 13 Apr 1783 and states in part: "Item -- I give and bequeath to my sister Elizabeth Blount all the rest of my Estate not before given to her and her heirs forever." Abstract of North Carolina Wills has the following information: <deleted> Blount County not given Dates missing Wife: Elizabeth Sons: John and Thomas ("Beech Island land and land on Welches' Creek up Moratock;"), Joseph (land at Matchapungo known by name of "Goshan"); James (land at Bear Swamp). Daughters: Mary Jacocs, Elizabeth Paget and Martha West. Remainder of will is missing. John Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina Will written January 27, 1725-1726 Will probated May 18, 1726 Sons: John, Thomas (manor, fronting on Albemarle Sound, John to have eastern end and Thomas western portion), James and Charles (land on Welches Creek), Joseph (land at Mattehapungo, known by the name of Goshen). Wife: Elizabeth (land at Bear Swamp and at Barrow Hole) Daughters: Mary Jacocks, Eliza Paget, Sarah Lovick, Martha Warsley and Hester Worley Executrix: Elizabeth Blount (wife), to be assisted by friends John Lovick and Thos. Pollock. Witnesses: Samll. Warner, Wm. Benbury, Magnes Plowman. Will proven before Richard Everard, Governor, etc. Codicil to will of John Blount. Dated January 27, 1725-1726 Daughters: Ann and Rachel (a gold ring each). Christopher Gale appointed assistant together with Jno. Lovick and Thos. Pollock. Coat of arms on seal of both will and codicil. The testator mentions in the will having broken the entail. Elizabeth Blount, Chowan County, North Carolina Will written February 8, 1732 Will probated March 12, 1732 Sons: John, Thomas, James, Joseph, Charles (to the two latter is bequeathed land at Bare Swamp and Haughton land). Daughters: Anne Warley, Rachele. Executors: John Lovick, Samll. Pagett and Jonathan Jacocks. Witnesses: R. Hicks and Mary Coleson. Will proven before George Burrington, at Edenton. A tract of land at Barrow's Hole is ordered sold and proceeds applied to payment of doctor. Frederick Jones, Chowan Precinct, North Carolina Will written April 9, 1722 Will probated March 26, 1723 Sons: William Harding Jones (lands on the south side of Moratoke River), Frederick ("all my lands in Craven Precinct"), Thomas (land at Maherrin and lands north side of Moratoke River.). To each of sons is bequeathed one diamond ring. Plate divided between sons. To Brother: Thomas Jones of Virginia is devised lands in King William County, Virginia called Horns Quarter. Daughters: Jane ("Indiane girle, four slaves, diamond ring and diamond earrings, Gold watch with chain, seal, etc."), Martha (four young slaves, one diamond ring, diamond earrings, gold shoe-buckles, thimble, etc. and one dozen finest damask napkins, one dozen diaper napkins, Holland sheets, etc.), Rebeckah (one diamond ring, about three dozen damask and diaper napkins, table-cloths, sheets, etc.) Executors: Thomas Jones, of Virginia (brother), Wm. Harding and Frederick Jones (sons). Witnesses: Sarah Stewart, Roger Hazard, John Ansley, Edw'd Moseley. Codicil bequeathes gold rings to Rebecah Jones and silver-mounted pistols to Edward Moseley. Proven before C. Gale. Coat of arms on seal. I wonder if this is the Jones family of Devil John Jones and a possible reference to the family's old stomping grounds in Virginia? They seem to have had associations with the Blount family in the same area of North Carolina (on the Moratoke River in Chowan County). Both families also seemed to have been fairly important families (both having coat of arms on the seals of their wills) as well. And Frederick Jones was definitely a wealthy man. It might be worth further research for those who share these lines and wondering if I might have more than a few connections myself including this one: William Jones, Bertie Precinct, North Carolina Will written March 15, 1736 Will probated May 20, 1736 Son: Ephrame ("plantation whereon I now live") Wife: Ann Executors: Francis Hopson, Henry Jernigan Witnesses: Bennet Blackman, Henry Baker, Jr. Will proven before W. Smith, C. J. Bertie, Tyrrell and Chowan are all in the same general area of North Carolina and at one time some of them were actually parts of the others. Ann Jernigan Jones (William Jones' wife) was a daughter to my ancestors Henry Jernigan and Phebe Blackman. Bennet Blackman was Phebe's brother. Barry Jernigan

All descendants of Devil John Jones and/or Caleb Fryley need to see this genweb if you haven't already: Tyrrell County, North Carolina Genweb http://patriot.net/~cpbarnes/TYRRELL.HTM Transcripts of wills of the following found there (and more if you keep searching around): William Fryly, 1737 James Jones, 1750 Benjamin Jones, 1772 Charlotte Jones, 1783 These people are all related. What are the chances this is Devil John Jones and Caleb Fryley's people? Pretty good - I would say. Note: The transcript for William Fryly's will gives his daughter's name as Mary JAMES and his grandchildren as Evan JAMES and Fryly JAMES. Further research in the other wills reveals that this is an error. The other wills clearly indicate this surname should be JONES not JAMES. Click at the top where it says "Site Navigation". Then click on "Probate Records". Then click on "Wills". I haven't even checked out the rest of the website but I'm sure more treasure is hidden there as well. What a great find! I just love this "detective work" ;-) Barry Jernigan

it helps to know the names of the intermarriages of the John Jones line. He has been a mystery. Have his wife and only one son listed and often thought there must be more. I have that line down so will check these names against it. I have a lot more information on the Jeremiah Jones line and then Jolly Jones of Tuscaloosa and it seems that Turkeytail Jones was also in the Tuscaloosa area. I can't find my notes on him but will keep searching. Thanks for posting from the Jefferson Co. Heritage book. What line are you from? I will send my Jones file. Angela Jones Harlan Angelah1012@aol.com

In a message dated 11/15/2006 1:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, FKeeton62@aol.com writes: > I finely found my book on Cullman AL. The woman was cripple and she wrote > > this book on Cullman in 1971 her name is Margaret Jean Jones. She is the > daughter of Shelmer B, and Alma Ruth Ford Jones. > She wrote a great article on Jones valley. I will try to give you some of > the detail on Jones Chapel.The name who is credited with starting this area > is > a man name Turkeytail Jones, in 1812. Quoting from her book," In 1812, > shortly before the Creek Indian war, Turkey tail Jones migrated from > Jamestown , > Virginia to the Mississippi Territory where became impressed with the > remote > wilderness area that was soon destined to march through the pages of > history as Jones Chapel. With the howl of wolves mingling with the ring of > his > axe, he built a cabin where the Vance farm is now located and set about > clearing > the forest of cropland.". There are some more Jones mention her book. > None that you mention in your list. Frances > >From Heritage of Jefferson County, Alabama: "The first settlers in Jones Valley were Devil John Jones and his brother-in-law Caleb Fryley who came in 1815. Jones built at the foot of Red Mountain and established Jonesboro (now Bessemer). Fryley settled at Bearmeat Cabin, now Blountsville. They built shacks, a blacksmith shop and blazed a wagon trail from Jonesboro up to Bearmeat Cabin, which became the Huntsville Pike. Thus they opened the way for others and Jones bequeathed his name to the Valley that was one day to be the site of Birmingham. James McAdory later resided at Jonesboro. Descendants of John Jones intermarried with his neighbors, the DeJarnette, Hawkins, Roebuck and Nabers families." In reference to the origin of the settlers there are three routes mentioned by which they came and after there is a paragraph which says: "Following these three routes North Carolinians, South Carolinians, Tennesseeans, Virginians and Georgians poured into the valleys of Blount County. The southern portion of Blount, where most of the South Carolinians lived, was cut off from the rest of the county in 1819 and named Jefferson." Barry Jernigan

In a message dated 11/15/2006 1:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, FKeeton62@aol.com writes: > She wrote a great article on Jones valley. I will try to give you some of > > the detail on Jones Chapel.The name who is credited with starting this area > is > a man name Turkeytail Jones, in 1812. Quoting from her book," In 1812, > shortly before the Creek Indian war, Turkey tail Jones migrated from > Jamestown , > Virginia to the Mississippi Territory where became impressed with the > remote > wilderness area that was soon destined to march through the pages of > history as Jones Chapel. I looked in the Virginia Historical Index and there is no reference to a Turkeytail Jones or a reference to Jones Chapel. There are tons of Jones's but not that name. James City, Virginia has very few records still surviving. Most date from after the Civil War indicating that most of the earlier ones were destroyed during the war? Does anyone have more on this person that could be checked? Dates, places, other family members' names? Particulary women with their maiden names? Several of Andrew Jacksons' soldiers during the Creek phase of the War of 1812 returned to Alabama and homesteaded Blount County part of which later became Jefferson County. I believe a large number of them were from the Carolinas but there may have been some from Virginia as well. Was this person a soldier with Andrew Jackson? Perhaps there are military records that could be checked? I have the book, Heritage of Jefferson County, Alabama and I believe there is mention of the Jones family for which Jones Valley, Jefferson County, was named after. Perhaps there was a family connection? I'll see what that book says and post it here. Barry Jernigan

Thanks, I have seen info on Turkeytail Jones wonder what his real name is? I have the book you are speaking of "Combing Cullman County". I started going through it again as I thumbed through the index but just discovered that most of the names in the book are indeed not indexed. I am going page by page now. Thanks for looking for me. Angela Jones Harlan Angelah1012@aol.com

In a message dated 11/15/2006 1:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, FKeeton62@aol.com writes: > There are some more Jones mention her book. > None that you mention in your list. Frances > I think I'm missing the original post with a list of Jones. I have Jones from Jones Chapel in my direct line and am very interested in anything to do with them. Barry Jernigan Son of Winston Eugene Jernigan & Marion Alice Valerio Grandson of Frankie William Jernigan & Zora Belle Young Great-grandson of Adolphus "Dolphus" Ervin or D. E. Young & Mary Ellen Lewis of Jones Chapel, Cullman Co, AL GG-grandson of Wesley Young and Elizabeth "Betsy" P. Jones of Jones Chapel, Cullman Co, AL

I finely found my book on Cullman AL. The woman was cripple and she wrote this book on Cullman in 1971 her name is Margaret Jean Jones. She is the daughter of Shelmer B, and Alma Ruth Ford Jones. She wrote a great article on Jones valley. I will try to give you some of the detail on Jones Chapel.The name who is credited with starting this area is a man name Turkeytail Jones, in 1812. Quoting from her book," In 1812, shortly before the Creek Indian war, Turkey tail Jones migrated from Jamestown , Virginia to the Mississippi Territory where became impressed with the remote wilderness area that was soon destined to march through the pages of history as Jones Chapel. With the howl of wolves mingling with the ring of his axe, he built a cabin where the Vance farm is now located and set about clearing the forest of cropland.". There are some more Jones mention her book. None that you mention in your list. Frances

Jim- Will you accept attachments? I will be happy to scan the pension file for you. Or, if you'd rather, I'll snail mail you a copy. Let me know which you prefer. Have a GREATday!!! Linda -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. 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Jayne- I wish I knew! I'm still trying to find my connections. It seems like I know so much more about my cousins lines than I do my own at this point- unless I have found my grandpa and just don't know it yet! Thank you so much for administrating this list. I know it's got to be a full-time job, but (I hope I speak for all of us) we do appreciate it! Have a GREAT day!!! Linda -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of RnCarolyn114@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:45 PM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] ALCULLMA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 Seeing the name "Tidmore" in your list reminded me that my third grade teacher back in the `60`s was named Lorene Tidmore-she taught in an elementary school in Huntsville, AL.. As I recall, she was a middle-age woman who had never married. Just wondering if she is connected to your Tidmore line somehow? Carolyn I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fred. I will research John Brooks we are still defining the Brook's family in Cullman, Blount, and DeKalb Co., Al. As you know these county line were moveable and we must check many and this includes North West Georgia, South Tenn and it does take time. I think they migrated from VA along the Wagon Trail that ran along the top of the Blue Ridge Mountains and of course they lost children to marriage or the like of the country and they began to raise families in that area. I have you edress and will let you know what we learn Sue sshorn@alltel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <alcullma-request@rootsweb.com> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:01 AM Subject: ALCULLMA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 20 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. William Brooks (Sue Horn) > 2. William Brooks (Fred Love) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:05:35 -0600 > From: "Sue Horn" <sshorn@alltel.net> > Subject: [ALCULLMA] William Brooks > To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003401c701a4$3ffc6b80$01fea8c0@yourkkxx5rxwd9> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Fred, > The grandfather William Brooks , B. 3-16-1846 in Randolph Co. Al. d. 8-6-1919 in present day Garden City, Cullman, Al. > His children were > Mary Josephine b. 1869 never married > Elizabeth b. 1871 md James Anderson White lived in Jones Chapel > Lillian b. 1874 md Echols lived in Garden City > John David b. 1877 lived in Simeco > Cassie b. 1880 md Henderson W. Johnston Lived in Hanceville > Florence b. 1882 md Arrington lived in Georgia as well as DeKalb Co., Al. > Lulu b. 1885 md Stevens lived in DeKalb Co. > William T. 1887 > James F. 1888 md McAnnally lived in Garden City, > > Would your William be in DeKalb Co., Al. md to a Sarah Kirkland they had two boys one died infancy and Jack?? is the other son mentioned in the Census. > I know nothing else regarding him but would love learn more He may have lived in Cullman But did find him living in or around Fyffe, DeKalb Co. This line of Brooks in 1900 were in Town Creek, Etowah Co., 1910 Fyffee in DeKalb Co. with William T. in Fort Payne. they then sometime after the census migrated back to Garden City which was in Blount Co at that Time This may be more information than you need but it may help and I can fill in most of the Gaps > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:30:14 -0600 > From: Fred Love <fred.love@mchsi.com> > Subject: [ALCULLMA] William Brooks > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <454F5506.3040503@mchsi.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sue, I'm not sure if this is the same family. > > William was born in GA 1809, son of John and Mary Love Brooks. > They went from GA to Randolph AL. John said to have died in Cullman > but I can find no record. > > Fred > > > Descendants of William Brooks > > 1 William Brooks 1809 - > .. +Elizabeth Mullins 1810 - > ........ 2 James Jim Brooks > ........ 2 William Thomas Brooks > ........ 2 Francis Brooks > ........ 2 Elizabeth Brooks > ........ 2 Elanor "Ellen" Brooks > ........ 2 Mary Brooks > ........ 2 Nancy Brooks > ........ 2 Samuel Brooks 1843 - 1919 > *2nd Wife of William Brooks: > .. +Milly Palmore > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALCULLMA list administrator, send an email to > ALCULLMA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ALCULLMA mailing list, send an email to ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALCULLMA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 20 > *************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sue, I'm not sure if this is the same family. William was born in GA 1809, son of John and Mary Love Brooks. They went from GA to Randolph AL. John said to have died in Cullman but I can find no record. Fred Descendants of William Brooks 1 William Brooks 1809 - .. +Elizabeth Mullins 1810 - ........ 2 James Jim Brooks ........ 2 William Thomas Brooks ........ 2 Francis Brooks ........ 2 Elizabeth Brooks ........ 2 Elanor "Ellen" Brooks ........ 2 Mary Brooks ........ 2 Nancy Brooks ........ 2 Samuel Brooks 1843 - 1919 *2nd Wife of William Brooks: .. +Milly Palmore