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Thanks Barry a great help Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <alcullma-request@rootsweb.com> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: ALCULLMA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Winston Co, AL 1867 Loyalty list (FINCH64@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:39:49 EDT > From: FINCH64@aol.com > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Winston Co, AL 1867 Loyalty list > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com, aljeffer@rootsweb.com, > almarsha@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cb2.d5f3976.333710c5@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > For those who have roots in what was once known as the Free State of Winston > (like yours truly) this is a real find: > > The 1867 Voting Registration and Loyalty Oaths list. It is at the Winston > County, AL Genweb. > > http://wcgs.ala.nu > > Look on the sidebar Menu and choose the link for "Military" and it's on that > list. This is what you can find. I'll use my surnames of interest for > examples: > > The order of the information is: Name; Date of Birth; County/State of Birth; > Precinct; Notes > > Jones, Daniel L.; March 16, 1845; Fayette Co, AL; Precinct 9; no notes > Jones, Franklin; March 10, 1812; Franklin Co, TN; Precinct 2; no notes > Jones, Jeremiah P.; August 28, 1837; Blount Co, AL; Precinct 4; Died > 10/19/1890, buried Brushy Creek Cem., Cullman Co., AL > Jones, John W.C., Jr.; January 23, 1838; Morgan Co, AL;Precinct 2; no notes > > Kilpatrick, Andrew J.; July 10, 1785; Rutherford Co, NC; Precinct 2; Died > about 1877 > Kilpatrick, Hugh Obediah; March 25, 1814; Rutherford Co, NC; Precinct 3; Died > April 16, 1895, Buried Cross Roads, Cullman Co, AL > > Lee, A. Jonathan; July 7, 1840; Gilmore [sic] Co, GA; Precinct 2; no notes > Lee, Benjamin; March 6, 1842; Marion Co, GA; Precinct 6; no notes > Lee, David Jackson; February 8, 1845; Gilmore [sic] Co, GA; Precinct 2; Died > 2/17/1906 > Lee, James Alford; October 1, 1842; Buncombe Co, NC; Precinct 2; Died about > 1907 > Lee, Leander; 1810; Buncombe Co, NC; Precinct 2; no notes > > Wileman, Russel; March 5, 1814; Franklin Co, TN; Precinct 1; no notes > > Young, Daniel H. (my ggg-grandfather); March 13, 1814; Davidson Co, TN; > Precinct 2; Died 3/7/1878 > Young, Wiley H.; October 7, 1844; Madison Co, TN; Precinct 9; no notes > Young, William W.; February 10, 1840; Jefferson Co, AL; Precinct 2; no notes > > You might check out the list of surnames just to see if any of your surnames > are on it and you can see their places of origin prior to coming to Alabama. > Some that I see just offhand (not directly related to me but maybe collateral > relations in Jefferson) are the following: > > Willis Barton; born 22 Sep 1803 in Pendleton District, SC > Isaac James, Sr.; born 5 Aug 1806 in Grainger Co, TN > Thomas Justice; born 5 Apr 1804 in Lincoln Co, NC > John Martin born 11 May 1814 in Lincoln Co, TN > Andrew J. McCombs born 25 Sep 1826 in Jefferson Co, AL > Daniel Gaston Mize born 1 Apr 1835 in Franklin Co, GA > Alford Parker born 4 Aug 1806 in Lincoln Co, NC > Joseph P. Roberts born 14 Dec 1816 in Buncombe Co, NC > Hill F. Self; born 11 Apr 1844 in Marion Co, AL > Henry G. Sims born 13 Feb 1842 in Morgan Co, AL > John Henry Taylor born 25 Aug 1808 in Montgomery Co, NC > Silvester Vines born 14 Jan 1843 in Perry Co, AR > > These are the oldest dates of birth for the surnames of the above persons. I > believe I've seen postings on the lists from others researching these > surnames as well as others. I don't see too many places where someone has stated in > their own words their full given name, their date and place of birth -- actual > counties in the Carolinas to search those specific censuses. This is like a > real find for me. > > Barry Jernigan > Murfreesboro, TN > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALCULLMA list administrator, send an email to > ALCULLMA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ALCULLMA mailing list, send an email to ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALCULLMA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10 > *************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For those who have roots in what was once known as the Free State of Winston (like yours truly) this is a real find: The 1867 Voting Registration and Loyalty Oaths list. It is at the Winston County, AL Genweb. http://wcgs.ala.nu Look on the sidebar Menu and choose the link for "Military" and it's on that list. This is what you can find. I'll use my surnames of interest for examples: The order of the information is: Name; Date of Birth; County/State of Birth; Precinct; Notes Jones, Daniel L.; March 16, 1845; Fayette Co, AL; Precinct 9; no notes Jones, Franklin; March 10, 1812; Franklin Co, TN; Precinct 2; no notes Jones, Jeremiah P.; August 28, 1837; Blount Co, AL; Precinct 4; Died 10/19/1890, buried Brushy Creek Cem., Cullman Co., AL Jones, John W.C., Jr.; January 23, 1838; Morgan Co, AL;Precinct 2; no notes Kilpatrick, Andrew J.; July 10, 1785; Rutherford Co, NC; Precinct 2; Died about 1877 Kilpatrick, Hugh Obediah; March 25, 1814; Rutherford Co, NC; Precinct 3; Died April 16, 1895, Buried Cross Roads, Cullman Co, AL Lee, A. Jonathan; July 7, 1840; Gilmore [sic] Co, GA; Precinct 2; no notes Lee, Benjamin; March 6, 1842; Marion Co, GA; Precinct 6; no notes Lee, David Jackson; February 8, 1845; Gilmore [sic] Co, GA; Precinct 2; Died 2/17/1906 Lee, James Alford; October 1, 1842; Buncombe Co, NC; Precinct 2; Died about 1907 Lee, Leander; 1810; Buncombe Co, NC; Precinct 2; no notes Wileman, Russel; March 5, 1814; Franklin Co, TN; Precinct 1; no notes Young, Daniel H. (my ggg-grandfather); March 13, 1814; Davidson Co, TN; Precinct 2; Died 3/7/1878 Young, Wiley H.; October 7, 1844; Madison Co, TN; Precinct 9; no notes Young, William W.; February 10, 1840; Jefferson Co, AL; Precinct 2; no notes You might check out the list of surnames just to see if any of your surnames are on it and you can see their places of origin prior to coming to Alabama. Some that I see just offhand (not directly related to me but maybe collateral relations in Jefferson) are the following: Willis Barton; born 22 Sep 1803 in Pendleton District, SC Isaac James, Sr.; born 5 Aug 1806 in Grainger Co, TN Thomas Justice; born 5 Apr 1804 in Lincoln Co, NC John Martin born 11 May 1814 in Lincoln Co, TN Andrew J. McCombs born 25 Sep 1826 in Jefferson Co, AL Daniel Gaston Mize born 1 Apr 1835 in Franklin Co, GA Alford Parker born 4 Aug 1806 in Lincoln Co, NC Joseph P. Roberts born 14 Dec 1816 in Buncombe Co, NC Hill F. Self; born 11 Apr 1844 in Marion Co, AL Henry G. Sims born 13 Feb 1842 in Morgan Co, AL John Henry Taylor born 25 Aug 1808 in Montgomery Co, NC Silvester Vines born 14 Jan 1843 in Perry Co, AR These are the oldest dates of birth for the surnames of the above persons. I believe I've seen postings on the lists from others researching these surnames as well as others. I don't see too many places where someone has stated in their own words their full given name, their date and place of birth -- actual counties in the Carolinas to search those specific censuses. This is like a real find for me. Barry Jernigan Murfreesboro, TN ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

History of the Hustler Around the turn of the last century, Hanceville was represented by its own local newspaper called The Hustler. This article describes the little known history of the publication. Although the Hustler was a Hanceville publication, it had its origins in the nearby city of Blountsville. Blountsville, then the county seat of Blount County, had long been represented by a newspaper. For example, the Blountsville Pioneer was printed in the days prior to the Civil War. Veteran newspaperman L.H. Mathews moved to the area and began the Blount Springs News in that town in the 1870s. In October of 1877 he moved his operation to Blountville and changed the name to the Blount County News. When the voters decided to move the county seat to the new town of Oneonta, Mathews followed and once again moved his operation. The Blount County News first published in Oneonta in November of 1889. This left Blountsville without a home newspaper. However, the void was filled when The Southern Democrat made its debut in October of 1894 under the leadership of F.G. Stephens. At the same time in the same place, the Cullman Alabama Tribune reported Travis M. Byars had begun another paper, called the Courier. So, within a few weeks, Blountsville gained not one, but two newspapers. Byars consolidated his Courier with the College Journal in October 1896. The College Journal represented the Blountsville College. L.H. Mathews, of what was by then called the Blount County News-Dispatch, died in December 1896. The next month, Stephens moved The Southern Democrat to Oneonta to compete directly with the News-Dispatch. The News-Dispatch folded in 1904, leaving F.G. Stephens, for a while, running the only newspaper in Oneonta. Without its status as the county seat, and miles away from the nearest railroad, Blountsville began to become less important in the growth of the county. For years, it had competed with Blount Springs as a center of development and had just barely survived a contentious vote to move the county seat there after having served as the center of county government for 50 years. After the voters elected to ultimately bypass both Blountsville and Blount Springs in favor of Oneonta in 1889, Blountsville had only the college as the primary attraction, while both Blount Springs and Oneonta had the railroad, leaving Blountsville landlocked. Then, to make matters worse for Blountsville, the college burned in January of 1895. Fortunately, Alabama soon designated Blountville as the site of the Ninth District Agricultural School and the college was rebuilt and operated successfully for several years. The railroads were the key to trade and development and no doubt contributed to the decisions made by Stephens to move the Democrat to Oneonta in January of 1897, and Byars to move the Courier-Journal to Hanceville in March of 1897. The next month the name was changed to the Hanceville Hustler. After about six months, Byars sold the Hustler to Dr. Felix A. and Mrs. J.H. Gillespie. Byars left Hanceville and moved to Oakman in Walker County where he began another newspaper, the Oakman News. The Blount County News-Dispatch wrote in the issue of 30 Sep 1897: "The Hanceville Hustler comes to us under new management, Dr. and Mrs. Gillespie having purchased it from Mr. Byars, who goes to Oakman to engage in a similar enterprise. Dr. Gillespie is an old typo, having been associated with Mr. L.H. Mathews in the publication of this paper years ago at Blountsville. Since then he has been successful both as a business man and a physician. Mrs. Julia Hamill Gillespie is the sister of the late Senator C.F. Hamill, of this county, and possesses much of the bright mentality of her distinguished brother. We welcome them into the field of journalism." Dr. Gillespie was involved with the Hustler until his death in 1905. His wife Julia continued editing the paper until 1908 when she became editor of the Cullman Tribune. That marked the end of the Hanceville Hustler. The earliest existing issues of the Hustler date from 1902. Issues before 1902 seem to have disappeared. The Alabama State Department of Archives and History has copies of most of the original issues from the years 1902, 1904, 1905, and 1907. These issues have never been microfilmed. Wallace State Community College at Hanceville has microfilm of the Hustler for 1903, 1907, and 1908. Except for 1906, issues are mostly complete between 1902 and 1908. Before the Hustler, news of Hanceville was reported in the Cullman and Blount County newspapers. However, the local news was reported only incidently and occasionally. With its own newspaper, Hanceville finally had a publication reporting area news for Hanceville by people from Hanceville. Local news was covered in much more detail than by the distant newspapers. Therefore, the existing issues of the Hanceville Hustler give the best first person accounts of the area news for the time period and contain valuable and unique genealogical information. Written by Robin Sterling, February 2007. Sources: The Gadsden Times and News, 1872 - 1876, 1876 - 1881, 1881 - 1885, Parker and Parker; various microfilmed issues of The Blount County News and Blount County News-Dispatch, The Southern Democrat, and The Cullman Alabama Tribune; telephone interviews with personnel at Wallace State Community College and the basement archive newspaper vault in the Cullman County Court House.

I am sorry I do not think I got back to you to thank you for your help with Christmas just a few days away.The first James Johson married to Sara in 1900 living in Cullman was my James Johson.

Howdy ladies and gents. I am William Grover Bates, a relative of William Thomas Bates Jr that married Cora Cordelia McMinn. William arrived in Cullman Co shortly after 1880 in the company of his sister Sarah "Sallie" Jane Goodson Bates TRAYLOR, her husband, James Lincoln TRAYLOR, and his youngest brother, Robert Lee BATES. Sallie and James divorced sometime before 1900 and I have been looking for information as to what happened to her afterwards though I suspect she remarried there in Cullman Co while James went back to Fayette Co, Ga where they had left from. Sallie and William are from right across a river on the southeastern side of Fayette Co in Spalding Co. The main purpose of posting this to the list is I can only look up information on the internet due to distance from my present home in El Paso, Tx and having to rely on a lot of people for accurate, or even possibly suspicions, information on my BATES family tree which in branching out into the spousal lines. I am also in the process of writing a book on the Genealogy of John "C." BATES with the help of two other researchers that live in Spalding Co, Ga and DeKalb Co, Al. Tks and che-ers Bill Bates

You silly! NO forgiveness is necessary when no sin has been committed! Have a GREAT day!!! Linda -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Gurley Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:54 PM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families THANK YOU AND PLEASE FORGIVE AN OLD MAN WHOSE MEMORY IS SEEMINGLY FADING. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Hi Dennis- > > Yes we've talked. In fact, I am scanning pictures to send to you and > updating information. Your last email is "flagged" so I remember to get > that done. Sorry it's taking me so long!!! > > I come through Robert and Betsey's son Moses. He married Leatha Garren > and > I descend through their daughter Ethel. I have a few pictures of Ethel > and > her daughter, Mary Jane Tidmore that I am going to send you. I'm in the > process of cleaning out my storage and am completely overwhelmed by how > much > there is to go through at this point, unfortunately, most of it is on > other > lines and not this one. > > I'll work on this today and get this off to you ASAP. > > Have a GREAT day!!! > > Linda Lieby > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Gurley > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:38 AM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Linda Leiby: > > What are your Abel, Clayton and McHenry connections? Have we corresponded > previously? > My paternal grandmother was Julia Victoria Abel, d/o John Wallace Abel and > Rebecca Ann Morgan Abel, married Thomas Lando Gurley. John Wallace Abel > was > s/o Moses W. Abel and Elizabeth "Betsey" McHenry. > > Please write me direct. > > > Dennis Gurley > dlgjmk@bellsouth.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >> OOPS! I apologize to the list! These last four emails contained >> attachments that apparently did not get through the list. >> >> James Pilkinton- I am trying to send you John Lanning's Revolutionary War >> pension file but it did not go through. Will you please email me >> privately >> and give me your email address or your snail mail address and I will get >> these to you. Thanks so much!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Lieby >> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:50 PM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> part 4 of 4 >> >> Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a >> GREAT day! >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother >> was >> Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's >> wife >> was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I >> really >> don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have >> enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary >> file. Thanks again - Jim >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >>> Jim- >>> >>> Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? >>> I >>> found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you >>> the >>> James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: >>> Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related >>> branches >>> (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look >>> on >>> your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. >>> The >>> Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my >>> favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn >>> of >>> them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. >>> >>> Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If >>> you >>> are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very >>> Impressive!!! >>> Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll >>> contribute all that I can! >>> >>> There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers >>> (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as >>> possible >>> on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin >>> of >>> ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview >>> Town >>> Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our >>> family. >>> I'll send you the link and you can check it out. >>> >>> http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ >>> >>> Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family >>> stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce >>> gave >>> me >>> permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute >>> them >>> to >>> him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. >>> Like I said, he is really nice. >>> >>> Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that >>> if >>> you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. >>> As >>> I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have >>> most >>> of it, but you never know. >>> >>> Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! >>> Have >>> a >>> GREAT day!!!! >>> >>> Linda Lieby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM >>> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >>> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >>> >>> >>> Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore >>> line, >>> however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to >>> correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >>> To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM >>> Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >>> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >>> >>> >>>>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out >>>>there. >>>> >>>> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE >>>> and >>>> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >>>> >>>> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died >>>> in >>>> Nectar. >>>> >>>> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >>>> >>>> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >>>> >>>> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary >>>> GRIFFITH. >>>> >>>> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >>>> >>>> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >>>> M. >>>> SPENCER. >>>> >>>> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >>>> of >>>> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >>>> >>>> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >>>> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >>>> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >>>> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >>>> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're >>>> interested >>>> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >>>> able >>>> to gather. >>>> >>>> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >>>> ABEL, >>>> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who >>>> might >>>> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my >>>> grandmother >>>> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >>>> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >>>> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >>>> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >>>> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >>>> or >>>> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've >>>> been >>>> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >>>> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >>>> this >>>> project). >>>> >>>> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >>>> TIDMORE >>>> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. >>>> Instead, >>>> she >>>> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married >>>> a >>>> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and >>>> I >>>> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >>>> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >>>> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >>>> >>>> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >>>> industry >>>> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >>>> were >>>> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of >>>> some >>>> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper >>>> ad >>>> is >>>> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >>>> and >>>> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >>>> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >>>> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >>>> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >>>> >>>> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and >>>> GARREN) >>>> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >>>> hearing from you all. >>>> >>>> Have a GREAT day!!! >>>> >>>> Linda Lieby >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>>> problems as soon as possible. >>>> Jayne Holland >>>> you can email me at >>>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>> problems as soon as possible. >>> Jayne Holland >>> you can email me at >>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. 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THANK YOU AND PLEASE FORGIVE AN OLD MAN WHOSE MEMORY IS SEEMINGLY FADING. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Hi Dennis- > > Yes we've talked. In fact, I am scanning pictures to send to you and > updating information. Your last email is "flagged" so I remember to get > that done. Sorry it's taking me so long!!! > > I come through Robert and Betsey's son Moses. He married Leatha Garren > and > I descend through their daughter Ethel. I have a few pictures of Ethel > and > her daughter, Mary Jane Tidmore that I am going to send you. I'm in the > process of cleaning out my storage and am completely overwhelmed by how > much > there is to go through at this point, unfortunately, most of it is on > other > lines and not this one. > > I'll work on this today and get this off to you ASAP. > > Have a GREAT day!!! > > Linda Lieby > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Gurley > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:38 AM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Linda Leiby: > > What are your Abel, Clayton and McHenry connections? Have we corresponded > previously? > My paternal grandmother was Julia Victoria Abel, d/o John Wallace Abel and > Rebecca Ann Morgan Abel, married Thomas Lando Gurley. John Wallace Abel > was > s/o Moses W. Abel and Elizabeth "Betsey" McHenry. > > Please write me direct. > > > Dennis Gurley > dlgjmk@bellsouth.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >> OOPS! I apologize to the list! These last four emails contained >> attachments that apparently did not get through the list. >> >> James Pilkinton- I am trying to send you John Lanning's Revolutionary War >> pension file but it did not go through. Will you please email me >> privately >> and give me your email address or your snail mail address and I will get >> these to you. Thanks so much!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Lieby >> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:50 PM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> part 4 of 4 >> >> Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a >> GREAT day! >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother >> was >> Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's >> wife >> was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I >> really >> don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have >> enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary >> file. Thanks again - Jim >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >>> Jim- >>> >>> Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? >>> I >>> found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you >>> the >>> James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: >>> Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related >>> branches >>> (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look >>> on >>> your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. >>> The >>> Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my >>> favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn >>> of >>> them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. >>> >>> Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If >>> you >>> are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very >>> Impressive!!! >>> Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll >>> contribute all that I can! >>> >>> There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers >>> (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as >>> possible >>> on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin >>> of >>> ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview >>> Town >>> Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our >>> family. >>> I'll send you the link and you can check it out. >>> >>> http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ >>> >>> Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family >>> stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce >>> gave >>> me >>> permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute >>> them >>> to >>> him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. >>> Like I said, he is really nice. >>> >>> Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that >>> if >>> you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. >>> As >>> I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have >>> most >>> of it, but you never know. >>> >>> Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! >>> Have >>> a >>> GREAT day!!!! >>> >>> Linda Lieby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM >>> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >>> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >>> >>> >>> Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore >>> line, >>> however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to >>> correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >>> To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM >>> Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >>> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >>> >>> >>>>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out >>>>there. >>>> >>>> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE >>>> and >>>> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >>>> >>>> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died >>>> in >>>> Nectar. >>>> >>>> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >>>> >>>> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >>>> >>>> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >>>> >>>> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary >>>> GRIFFITH. >>>> >>>> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >>>> >>>> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >>>> M. >>>> SPENCER. >>>> >>>> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >>>> of >>>> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >>>> >>>> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >>>> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >>>> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >>>> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >>>> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're >>>> interested >>>> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >>>> able >>>> to gather. >>>> >>>> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >>>> ABEL, >>>> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who >>>> might >>>> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my >>>> grandmother >>>> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >>>> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >>>> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >>>> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >>>> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >>>> or >>>> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've >>>> been >>>> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >>>> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >>>> this >>>> project). >>>> >>>> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >>>> TIDMORE >>>> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. >>>> Instead, >>>> she >>>> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married >>>> a >>>> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and >>>> I >>>> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >>>> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >>>> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >>>> >>>> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >>>> industry >>>> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >>>> were >>>> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of >>>> some >>>> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper >>>> ad >>>> is >>>> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >>>> and >>>> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >>>> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >>>> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >>>> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >>>> >>>> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and >>>> GARREN) >>>> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >>>> hearing from you all. >>>> >>>> Have a GREAT day!!! >>>> >>>> Linda Lieby >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>>> problems as soon as possible. >>>> Jayne Holland >>>> you can email me at >>>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>> problems as soon as possible. >>> Jayne Holland >>> you can email me at >>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. 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Hi Dennis- Yes we've talked. In fact, I am scanning pictures to send to you and updating information. Your last email is "flagged" so I remember to get that done. Sorry it's taking me so long!!! I come through Robert and Betsey's son Moses. He married Leatha Garren and I descend through their daughter Ethel. I have a few pictures of Ethel and her daughter, Mary Jane Tidmore that I am going to send you. I'm in the process of cleaning out my storage and am completely overwhelmed by how much there is to go through at this point, unfortunately, most of it is on other lines and not this one. I'll work on this today and get this off to you ASAP. Have a GREAT day!!! Linda Lieby -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Gurley Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:38 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Linda Leiby: What are your Abel, Clayton and McHenry connections? Have we corresponded previously? My paternal grandmother was Julia Victoria Abel, d/o John Wallace Abel and Rebecca Ann Morgan Abel, married Thomas Lando Gurley. John Wallace Abel was s/o Moses W. Abel and Elizabeth "Betsey" McHenry. Please write me direct. Dennis Gurley dlgjmk@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > OOPS! I apologize to the list! These last four emails contained > attachments that apparently did not get through the list. > > James Pilkinton- I am trying to send you John Lanning's Revolutionary War > pension file but it did not go through. Will you please email me > privately > and give me your email address or your snail mail address and I will get > these to you. Thanks so much!!! > > Linda Lieby > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Lieby > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:50 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > part 4 of 4 > > Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a > GREAT day! > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother > was > Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's > wife > was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I > really > don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have > enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary > file. Thanks again - Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >> Jim- >> >> Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I >> found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the >> James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: >> Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related >> branches >> (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look >> on >> your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. >> The >> Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my >> favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn >> of >> them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. >> >> Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If >> you >> are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very >> Impressive!!! >> Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll >> contribute all that I can! >> >> There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers >> (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as >> possible >> on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin >> of >> ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview >> Town >> Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. >> I'll send you the link and you can check it out. >> >> http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ >> >> Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family >> stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave >> me >> permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them >> to >> him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. >> Like I said, he is really nice. >> >> Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if >> you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. >> As >> I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have >> most >> of it, but you never know. >> >> Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! >> Have >> a >> GREAT day!!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore >> line, >> however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to >> correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >> To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM >> Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >>>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >>> >>> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE >>> and >>> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >>> >>> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >>> Nectar. >>> >>> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >>> >>> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >>> >>> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >>> >>> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >>> >>> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >>> >>> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >>> M. >>> SPENCER. >>> >>> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >>> of >>> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >>> >>> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >>> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >>> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >>> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >>> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're >>> interested >>> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >>> able >>> to gather. >>> >>> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >>> ABEL, >>> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who >>> might >>> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >>> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >>> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >>> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >>> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >>> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >>> or >>> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >>> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >>> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >>> this >>> project). >>> >>> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >>> TIDMORE >>> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >>> she >>> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married >>> a >>> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >>> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >>> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >>> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >>> >>> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >>> industry >>> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >>> were >>> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of >>> some >>> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >>> is >>> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >>> and >>> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >>> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >>> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >>> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >>> >>> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >>> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >>> hearing from you all. >>> >>> Have a GREAT day!!! >>> >>> Linda Lieby >>> >>> >>> >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>> problems as soon as possible. >>> Jayne Holland >>> you can email me at >>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend > to list problems as soon as possible. > > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be > banned > from the list. > ~Jayne Bailey Holland~ List Moderator > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend > to list problems as soon as possible. > > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > There is a no tolerence rule for spam. 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Linda Leiby: What are your Abel, Clayton and McHenry connections? Have we corresponded previously? My paternal grandmother was Julia Victoria Abel, d/o John Wallace Abel and Rebecca Ann Morgan Abel, married Thomas Lando Gurley. John Wallace Abel was s/o Moses W. Abel and Elizabeth "Betsey" McHenry. Please write me direct. Dennis Gurley dlgjmk@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > OOPS! I apologize to the list! These last four emails contained > attachments that apparently did not get through the list. > > James Pilkinton- I am trying to send you John Lanning's Revolutionary War > pension file but it did not go through. Will you please email me > privately > and give me your email address or your snail mail address and I will get > these to you. Thanks so much!!! > > Linda Lieby > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Lieby > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:50 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > part 4 of 4 > > Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a > GREAT day! > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother > was > Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's > wife > was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I > really > don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have > enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary > file. Thanks again - Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >> Jim- >> >> Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I >> found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the >> James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: >> Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related >> branches >> (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look >> on >> your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. >> The >> Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my >> favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn >> of >> them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. >> >> Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If >> you >> are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very >> Impressive!!! >> Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll >> contribute all that I can! >> >> There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers >> (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as >> possible >> on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin >> of >> ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview >> Town >> Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. >> I'll send you the link and you can check it out. >> >> http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ >> >> Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family >> stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave >> me >> permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them >> to >> him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. >> Like I said, he is really nice. >> >> Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if >> you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. >> As >> I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have >> most >> of it, but you never know. >> >> Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! >> Have >> a >> GREAT day!!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM >> To: alcullma@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >> Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore >> line, >> however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to >> correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> >> To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM >> Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, >> McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families >> >> >>>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >>> >>> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE >>> and >>> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >>> >>> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >>> Nectar. >>> >>> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >>> >>> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >>> >>> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >>> >>> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >>> >>> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >>> >>> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >>> M. >>> SPENCER. >>> >>> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >>> of >>> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >>> >>> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >>> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >>> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >>> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >>> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're >>> interested >>> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >>> able >>> to gather. >>> >>> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >>> ABEL, >>> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who >>> might >>> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >>> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >>> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >>> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >>> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >>> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >>> or >>> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >>> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >>> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >>> this >>> project). >>> >>> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >>> TIDMORE >>> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >>> she >>> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married >>> a >>> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >>> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >>> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >>> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >>> >>> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >>> industry >>> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >>> were >>> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of >>> some >>> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >>> is >>> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >>> and >>> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >>> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >>> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >>> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >>> >>> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >>> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >>> hearing from you all. >>> >>> Have a GREAT day!!! >>> >>> Linda Lieby >>> >>> >>> >>> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >>> problems as soon as possible. >>> Jayne Holland >>> you can email me at >>> jholland "at" coralwave.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. 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Thank you Bob for posting this. I didn't have his birth at all just guessed 1805 I have that he was born in NC but I will check the census just glanced for anyone interested the 1860-1880 so far says he was b. NC Angela Jones Harlan Angelah1012@aol.com In a message dated 1/21/2007 8:07:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, bobwonda@hiwaay.net writes: The (Cullman) Alabama Tribune, 18 Jul 1895 Obituary. Another pioneer gone, another good man crossed over the river, after a short illness. Uncle Billy Rackley passed away quietly at his humble home on the morning of the 5th inst. There were but few persons present at the time of his death, but those present say that he simply appread to go to sleep. Uncle Billy was born December 19th, 1803, if I mistake not in the State of Tennessee and came to Alabama in boyhood. While a young man he married Miss Smith of Morgan county, and settled down for life in this part of the country. [William H. Rackley married Nancy Smith 1 Sep 1825, Morgan County, Book A, page 82] He was one of the men who helped to cut out the first public road through this county, known as the Stansold stage road leading from Huntsville to Tuscaloosa. At that time very few people were living in all this section of country, but wild animals of every kind roamed the forests at will, and Indian tracks were fresh everywhere, a pioneer indeed was he. Uncle Billy was like and respected by all who knew him, for his noble traits of character as a citizen, and for his deep piety; he having spend 73 of the 92 years that he lived in the Methodist church which he was a consistent member at the time of his death. His remains were laid to rest by the side of his wife in Mt. Zion cemetery, witnessed by a number of friends and relatives. The funeral services were conducted by Rev. Alvie Basham assisted by myself. May his many friends and relatives be as well prepared for the journey that awaits us all as he was is my earnest prayer. J.C. McGlathery. [At the time of his death, Rackley was said to be the oldest man in Cullman County. No monument was located in Mt. Zion Cemetery for Billy Rackley] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to list problems as soon as possible. you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be banned from the list. ~Jayne Bailey Holland~ List Moderator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The (Cullman) Alabama Tribune, 18 Jul 1895 Obituary. Another pioneer gone, another good man crossed over the river, after a short illness. Uncle Billy Rackley passed away quietly at his humble home on the morning of the 5th inst. There were but few persons present at the time of his death, but those present say that he simply appread to go to sleep. Uncle Billy was born December 19th, 1803, if I mistake not in the State of Tennessee and came to Alabama in boyhood. While a young man he married Miss Smith of Morgan county, and settled down for life in this part of the country. [William H. Rackley married Nancy Smith 1 Sep 1825, Morgan County, Book A, page 82] He was one of the men who helped to cut out the first public road through this county, known as the Stansold stage road leading from Huntsville to Tuscaloosa. At that time very few people were living in all this section of country, but wild animals of every kind roamed the forests at will, and Indian tracks were fresh everywhere, a pioneer indeed was he. Uncle Billy was like and respected by all who knew him, for his noble traits of character as a citizen, and for his deep piety; he having spend 73 of the 92 years that he lived in the Methodist church which he was a consistent member at the time of his death. His remains were laid to rest by the side of his wife in Mt. Zion cemetery, witnessed by a number of friends and relatives. The funeral services were conducted by Rev. Alvie Basham assisted by myself. May his many friends and relatives be as well prepared for the journey that awaits us all as he was is my earnest prayer. J.C. McGlathery. [At the time of his death, Rackley was said to be the oldest man in Cullman County. No monument was located in Mt. Zion Cemetery for Billy Rackley]

OOPS! I apologize to the list! These last four emails contained attachments that apparently did not get through the list. James Pilkinton- I am trying to send you John Lanning's Revolutionary War pension file but it did not go through. Will you please email me privately and give me your email address or your snail mail address and I will get these to you. Thanks so much!!! Linda Lieby -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Lieby Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:50 PM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families part 4 of 4 Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a GREAT day! Linda -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I am administrator of the Cullman list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to list problems as soon as possible. you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com There is a no tolerence rule for spam. Members who post spam will be banned from the list. ~Jayne Bailey Holland~ List Moderator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

part 4 of 4 Let me know if you are missing any pages and I will resend them. Have a GREAT day! Linda -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

part 3 of 4 -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

part 2 of 4 -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

im- I apologize for taking so long in getting this to you. I am still entering more information and will send you updates, but I wanted to at least get this to you for now. I'll send you more soon. Have a GREAT day!!! Linda part 1 of 4 -----Original Message----- From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 AM To: alcullma@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families Thanks for replying. Yes that is me on the net. My gr-great grandmother was Nancy Garren Speegle - your Tom Garren's sister. I knew that Absolom's wife was Winifred Sutton, but the Sitton part is my speculation so far - I really don't have any proof on her side. I have seen the Town Crier and have enjoyed it very much. I do not believe I have the Lanning Revolutionary file. Thanks again - Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> To: <alcullma@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > Jim- > > Hey Cousin! I'm so glad you replied! How do you fit into the family? I > found Pinkerton, but not Pilkinton. I just checked rootsweb- are you the > James Pilkinton who has submitted under the heading: > Pilkinton/Pinkleton/Pilkilton Families of NC,TN, IL, TX and related > branches > (Bates, Inman, Renfro, Speegle,Thompson, more)? If you are I will look on > your site and see what you have already so I don't duplicate too much. > The > Suttons (Sittons), Whitakers, Reeds, Garrens, et al... are others of my > favorite lines. You really learn to love these people the more you learn > of > them. From what I have learned, these were really good people. > > Have you gone back to the Whitakers, Lannings, Fouts, Digges, etc... If > you > are the same James Pilkinton then I see that you have! Very Impressive!!! > Thank you for all your hard work and extensive documentation!!!! I'll > contribute all that I can! > > There is a lot of information on them since they were originally Quakers > (although I have to admit that I haven't done as much research as possible > on them- yet! ) In Fairview, Buncombe, North Carolina there is a cousin > of > ours; Bruce Whitaker. He writes the history section for the "Fairview > Town > Crier". He is sooo nice and knows so much about that part of our family. > I'll send you the link and you can check it out. > > http://www.fairviewcommunity.com/towncrier/ > > Look under "Days Gone By" and you will find quite a few of our family > stories. There are some that are quite poignant. I loved it! Bruce gave > me > permission to use his stories in my database (as long as I attribute them > to > him). I'm sure he'll give you permission also if you want to use them. > Like I said, he is really nice. > > Do you have John Lannings revolutionary war file? I can send you that if > you don't. I'm in the process of documenting all my families right now. > As > I work on these lines I'll send you what I find. You may already have > most > of it, but you never know. > > Again- thank you for responding. I look forward to working with you! Have > a > GREAT day!!!! > > Linda Lieby > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alcullma-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Pilkinton > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:31 PM > To: alcullma@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > > Hello Cousin. I am sorry that I have no information for your Tidmore line, > however I am related to your Garren and Sutton lines and would love to > correspond with you concerning those. Thanks, Jim Pilkinton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Lieby" <gensolutions@charter.net> > To: <ALCULLMA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:47 PM > Subject: [ALCULLMA] Tidmore, Garren, Abel, Griffith, Clayton, > McHenryy,Ratliff, Sutton, Spencer... Families > > >>I just joined this list and am wondering if I have any cousins out there. >> >> My grandmother was Mary Jane TIDMORE, daughter of William (?) TIDMORE and >> Ethel ABEL. Mary Jane was born 1920 in Nectar, Blount County. >> >> Ethel ABEL is the daughter of Moses ABEL and Leatha GARREN; both died in >> Nectar. >> >> Moses ABEL is the son of Robert McHenry ABEL and Susan CLAYTON. >> >> Robert McHenry ABEL is the son of Moses ABEL and Elizabeth MCHENRY. >> >> Susan CLAYTON is the daughter of Littleberry CLAYTON and Sarah RATLIFF. >> >> Leatha GARREN is the daughter of Thomas Burgen GARREN and Mary GRIFFITH. >> >> Thomas Burgen GARREN is the son of Absolom GARREN and Winifred SUTTON. >> >> Mary GRIFFITH is the daughter of John Wiles (Wiley) GRIFFITH and Hannah >> M. >> SPENCER. >> >> I have more on these lines and would love to trade information with any >> of >> you!!! If you have any corrections, I'd love those also! >> >> I'm looking for information on my TIDMORE line as I am trying to either >> prove or dispel the story I have been told. I really know nothing of my >> particular TIDMORE line- although I have done extensive research on the >> TIDMORE family in general and am in the process of entering the >> documentation I've found so far. Please let me know if you're interested >> and I'll be happy to share the census and other information I've been >> able >> to gather. >> >> My grandmother, Mary Jane TIDMORE, died in 1966 and her mother, Ethel >> ABEL, >> died in 1984 so my sources for information are limited to those who might >> have known them or the family. From what I've been told, my grandmother >> didn't really know her father. We were told that his name was William >> TIDMORE and he apparently died either right before her birth or shortly >> thereafter. I can find no records for a marriage for Ethel and William >> (assuming they were married). I can't find a death record in that time >> frame for William either. We were told that his family owned a sawmill >> or >> logging company and that he was killed in a logging accident. I've been >> comparing census records from 1900 to 1920 to see if I can find any >> dissappearing William's, but I have found nothing yet. (I just began >> this >> project). >> >> I was told by Mary Jane's half-sister that after William died, the >> TIDMORE >> grandparents offered to care for Mary Jane, but Ethel refused. Instead, >> she >> answered a classified ad and ran off to San Francisco where she married a >> man named John Charles SCHNELL. Mary Jane was raised as a SCHNELL and I >> don't believe she ever was able to meet her TIDMORE side of the family, >> which is unfortunate. In doing the research I have and from the online >> relationships I have developed, I have come to really love this line! >> >> Does anyone know a TIDMORE family that was involved in the LOGGING >> industry >> around 1920, possibly located in or around Blount County? I know there >> were >> some TIDMORE's in Hanceville that operated a COAL mining industry of some >> kind (TIDMORE COAL), but the name of the company and an old newspaper ad >> is >> all I have on them. I wonder if my aunt might have confused the story >> and >> it might have been a coal mining accident instead. (Or perhaps my >> great-grandmother didn't want the truth to be known so my grandmother >> wouldn't try to find her father. She has been known to be a little >> impetuous- but I love her anyway!) >> >> I do have more on some of the other lines (especially SUTTON and GARREN) >> that I would love to share/compare with any cousins. I look forward to >> hearing from you all. >> >> Have a GREAT day!!! >> >> Linda Lieby >> >> >> >> I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to >> problems as soon as possible. >> Jayne Holland >> you can email me at >> jholland "at" coralwave.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to > problems as soon as possible. > Jayne Holland > you can email me at > jholland "at" coralwave.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am administrator of this list on a volunteer basis. I will attend to problems as soon as possible. Jayne Holland you can email me at jholland "at" coralwave.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCULLMA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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