Chaps, In reading your post this morning I find the following two statements in direct conflict with each other. "to learn the lessons you need to know if you're to understand true American history as our Founding Fathers wanted us to know." Definition of history. Noah Webster, in his 1828 dictionary defined "history" as: An account of facts respecting nations or states; a narrative of events in the order in which they happened with their causes and effects. History differs from Annals. History is as stated above, an account of facts; The way a certain group of people would have these "facts" interpreted is propaganda, not history..... no matter what group is "wanting us to know" their side. Much truth in history is lost due to this type of thinking. Many past mistakes are repeated by future generatons due to learning this type of "history". Please don't try to sell me books or educate me on your particular brand of history, because from the post you sent, and I have quoted this morning, it is evident that you are not truely schooled in this subject. Inga