This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Self, Ham, Seale Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4R.2ADE/129.1 Message Board Post: I think the family was SEALE, not Self. Obed & Levi HAM are in Butler Co. in1866 and Wm HAM shows up in a will of his wife's father, James SEALE. Where's Jerry?