> Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3R.2ADE/616.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Bill, I beg to differ with you. Properly magnified, I could definitely see on the microfilm that there is a second "o" not an "r" and can see it with a magnifying glass on my computer screen. There are other reasons to believe it is Cooley rather than Corley. The Index identifies Louisa as Cooley, i.e. it refers you to 0283b.gif, 0317a.gif and 0328b.gif for Cooleys. Louise Cooley is the only Cooley for 0283b.gif. The 0317a.gif is not shown. Under 0328b.gif is the Isaac Cooley household. Look at the writing of "Cooley." The second "o" looks like the one for Louisa Cooley. I was in contact with sydtom 25 Apr 01 and she said, "I think you are correct that the name is Cooley." I have also talked to others that live at Enterprise, AL and they agree it is Cooley. Also, Alfred is listed under Louisa in the 1850 census and he is my g-grandfather Alfred Cooley. He was b 14 Apr 1834 in Columbia, Henry Co. AL. Alfred is listed in the household of Wiley and Harriet God! wi! > n in the 1860 Census Coffee Co. AL. He married and raised a family in south AL. He remarried and raised a family in Jackson Co. FL, where my grandfather was born and raised his family, including my father. Alfred died 12 Jan 1920 in Houston Co. AL at his oldest son's home. Thanks for the response. John. > > ______________________________ > Subject: [ALCOFFEE] Re: Lolley Corley Cooley > Date: 21 Oct 2001 16:38:13 -0600 > From: johnwcooley@aol.com > To: ALCOFFEE-L@rootsweb.com > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3R.2ADE/616.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Bill, I beg to differ with you. Properly magnified, I could definitely see on the microfilm that there is a second "o" not an "r" and can see it with a magnifying glass on my computer screen. There are other reasons to believe it is Cooley rather than Corley. The Index identifies Louisa as Cooley, i.e. it refers you to 0283b.gif, 0317a.gif and 0328b.gif for Cooleys. Louise Cooley is the only Cooley for 0283b.gif. The 0317a.gif is not shown. Under 0328b.gif is the Isaac Cooley household. Look at the writing of "Cooley." The second "o" looks like the one for Louisa Cooley. I was in contact with sydtom 25 Apr 01 and she said, "I think you are correct that the name is Cooley." I have also talked to others that live at Enterprise, AL and they agree it is Cooley. Also, Alfred is listed under Louisa in the 1850 census and he is my g-grandfather Alfred Cooley. He was b 14 Apr 1834 in Columbia, Henry Co. AL. Alfred is listed in the household of Wiley and Harriet God! win in the 1860 Census Coffee Co. AL. He married and raised a family in south AL. He remarried and raised a family in Jackson Co. FL, where my grandfather was born and raised his family, including my father. Alfred died 12 Jan 1920 in Houston Co. AL at his oldest son's home. Thanks for the response. John. > > ______________________________ John.... You sent me this same message privately... to which I responded privately. Apparently you're quite pleased with the content because 4-5 days later you then posted it to the message board (and I received a copy of that)... and, as we all know, it then gets mirrored to this list... meaning I now have THREE copies. Boy, talk about getting in the last word. Just so everyone's up to speed, I'll paraphrase what I sent you privately... in this public forum. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You mentioned driving to Enterprise to view the microfilm... since I have JASC's Paintshop Pro, ADOBE Photoshop, KODAK ImageViewer & a couple of other programs, and the census is now on-line at ROOTSWEB, I thought blowing it up & manipulating it & reporting my results to you (privately) would be of some help. Given that the above represents over $1,000 in software, using a magnifying glass never occurred to me. You seem pleased with the results from such a "low-tech" solution... so it MUST be Cooley. You're descended from the individuals in question & spell it Cooley... so that MUST be the correct spelling. Your logic for WHY it's Cooley VS Corley doesn't follow (except your magnifying glass solution)... the first time I read your reply, and it still doesn't follow the third time I've read it. SydTom "thinking you're correct" isn't enough evidence. Taking the general consensus of the ENTIRE city of Enterprise isn't enough. Going solely by the census Index isn't enough since there's simple mistakes in that document... (I.E.: same gif-file... Hughes on the index; Hughs on the microfilm. There isn't even a letter to dispute in this example). 0317a.gif shown or not, has no bearing on how the name is spelled or isn't spelled. (BTW, the reason there's no 0317a.gif is because it's a blank page). It didn't occur to me to check for other Cooley/Corley entries & compare the handwriting... so you've got me there. But that now that it's been mentioned, I have compared them & the writing is consistent... whatever the letters spell, even when magnified to the single pixel level (something no magnifying glass can do). Other entries also isn't enough since apparently many of the census individuals were illiterate and the enumerator sometimes went by the phonetic spelling (see Jordan Wooten below). The 1860 census isn't enough evidence since it probably was taken by a different individual and even if the same enumerator, their handwriting may have "evolved" over 10 years... or the individuals MAY have changed the spelling. 10 years is a long time when you're living it. And lastly, to show I'm truly trying to be helpful & not contentious... I also have a 1850 relative who's name is mis-spelled... and the writing is easy to discern (even without a magnifying glass). <grin> It's "Jurdan Whooten" in the Barbour Co census. A visit from my gr-Aunt this month offered an explanation WHY it's misspelled.... due to the southern accent of the individuals. JORDAN WOOTEN is her paternal gr-father, yet she pronounces it JURDAN. (Someone's tree had my mother's maiden name--Pigg-- listed as Paige... not rhyming with "page of a book" but rather, "Hang your hat on the peg.") Both BLM documents spell it as Jordan Wooten. Several Smithsonian documents later spell it as Jordan Wooten as does Jordan's actual signature on the CSA death benefit documents for his son. The 1860 & 1870 census documents spell it Jordan Wooten. So, since I also spell my name Wooten versus Whooten, it's of no small relief to find the later documents. Which I think explains your passion for this subject. I didn't bother to ask anyone in Enterprise how they thought Wooten should be spelled... though the Wooten's still living there would have a biased opinion. I'm sorry I couldn't be of much help... but I "DID" try. Where would we all be without folks willing to at least TRY to help, eh? Happy Surfing Bill Wooten mailto:BILLPAYER@prodigy.net