Phyllis and listers, I think we all agree that you Phyllis do a wonderful job with this list. However that does not mean that there is not room for improvement and growth. I personally did not think that you were under attack as you seem to have taken it. Seemed to me as if this person was offering a few suggestions which might actually should have been considered. For any who do not know, a welcome message and a tag line are indeed diifferent. A welcome message is received one time only, when you first subscribe and you can include many details in that message. A tagline is something that is added to every single email that is sent out to a list and in my own opinion should be kept short especially since most people who reply to messages usually leave the entire message in tact and after 4 of 5 replies you can have a huge email with nothing but repeated taglines. Though the mention of PayPal in your previous tag line never bothered me, as I am aware that you don't have to "buy" into getting on the list, I can see why others might think it misleading to have it on the tagline. I really don't think Lauren was doing anything more than making a few useful suggestions to you and I hate so see a list member being under attack because they dared to make suggestions/comments. I don't think that is what this list is about either. We all think you're a great list manager and don't want to see you give up the list simply because someone suggests you could make the list better. On the other hand, I certainly now know that if I should ever choose to make a suggestion that something on list could be better, I would immediately come under attack by you and other listmembers who would take it as a threat. Please Phyllis and listmembers, rethink this, should Lauren be treated as such for making suggestions, also keep in mind she had the decency to make those suggestions private. Phyllis it was you who made the email and suggestions public. Debra Crosby -----Original Message----- From: alcoffee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alcoffee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis J. K. Owens Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:43 AM To: alcoffee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALCOFFEE] Stepping down Thank you so very, very much for your kind words of support. I want you to know how very much I appreciate them and all of my ALCOFFEE mailing listers. We ARE a great group of people who try very hard to help one another with our research. Heck, sometimes we do get a little off subject....but that is what adds flavor to our li'l list family. I will not change anything or the way we do it. If they do not like our list, they can de-moderate me and watch the list go back down to 10 subscribers as it was when I adopted it many, many years ago. (We have over 220 right now!!) But I do not think it will come to that. She/he backed down QUICKLY with my response, and wants no part of our list administration. You have probably read my post after she/he wrote me back. I have received many emails personally since I posted tonight. I am writing each person back personally. I just want you all each to know that I love you all more now than I already did before. We are a clannish lot of "simple" folks. LOL! Again, thank you kindly for your kind words, Mr. Marlin. ALCOFFEE mailing list will not change as long as I am moderator of it....and that is a promise. And you please take care now..... Phyllis J. K. Owens