Please....To any list member that may be able to help; I need to get in touch with anyone who has a voice in the upkeeep of the Ulcanush Church and cemetery. The first week of June my daughter and I were traveling through Coffeeville enroute to parts North (Fort Payne)in Alabama to visit family members. While there we decided to stop at the Ulcanush Cemetery. This is an old cemetery, and is one which I compiled years ago by photographing each and every grave individually in order to help preserve the history of the cemetery. I managed to get most of those buried there recorded, and my daughter has the compilation up on her site which is found by going to the Guenther Tindle Genealogy site at http:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/3724/index.html The Ulcanush can be seen by clicking on the Cemetery index and going to Alabama, then Clarke County. After walking around the cemetery, and not being able to find the stones of my great great grandparents , Thomas and Malinda Stephens Harris, I became puzzled. I mentioned to my daughter that I KNEW they were near "where the bushes had been removed", as that had caught my eye before even looking at anything in the cemetery, since it was neareset to where I knew some family memebers were buried. It just never struck me that I should be looking for something lying flat on the ground. Especially two stones that were as secure as they were known to be within the ground! Suddenly after strolling around, I happened to look down , and was so STUNNED to see what I knew to be Thomas' gravestone lying flat on it's back! After glancing around , I saw Malinda's also. There was one other stone that was uprooted , and although I can't recall the name at the moment, I did photograph it so as not to leave it forgotten..... This is something that HAD to happen when the bushes were removed, and I'm hoping that it's not assumed that the graves of my great great grandparents are forgotten, because there may not be Harris' close by at the present. I just do'nt understand why they were left lying on the ground like that. I got out my 1980 Coffeeville Phone book, and after trying to call the Ulcanush was unsuccessful as the number no longer exists , and there doesn't seem to be a replacement number or a listing for th Ulcansush Church. I left a message on a Methodist Church number with instructions to call me collect. It was my only alternative to finding someone, but haven't heard back as of now. Our family needs to find the party who would best be able to aid us in getting the stones re-established in the ground where they were before the roots, etc being pulled from the bushes caused the damage. I felt that the Ulcanush would be the place to start, but am now wondering if it is even an established church there, although we saw nothng that gave us any indication that it had changed , by looking at the signs, etc... It just never occurred to me that after going through the time and expense of shooting and developing over 500 photographs in that one cemetery that my own family history would be endangered after the fact, and it was a sad occasion for us that day, let alone , surprise.... Can someone out there offer a name and number for us to begin righting this situation? We would be forever grateful! I'd like also to mention that the people that we encountered while there were very nice, but we were traveling, and had to move on the day we stopped, as we had my two very young grandchildren with us, and were due to sleep in a Fort Payne Motel that evening, so just continued on from the cemetery to our destination after being there..... Kathy Tindle, Las Vegas....... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Kathy, What a dreadful disrespectful thing for such people to do. I don't know if this will help, but here's something that I would do first. Call the Tax Land Assessment Office of the City it was located..give them the address and they can tell you who owns the property and start right there. I hope that the person who gave the if on locating people for Churches that owned graves will speak up again and give you that info. Oh, there's a group on Cemetery Photos email list that should be able to also give you the info too. Subscribe to it and send in a query. CEMETERY-PHOTOS-L-request@rootsweb.com They also have a website too. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/2318/ Good Luck, Tiffany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Tindle" <ktindle@hotmail.com> To: <ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: DOWNED STONES in a Clarke cemetery. > Please....To any list member that may be able to help; > I need to get in touch with anyone who has a voice in the upkeeep > of the Ulcanush Church and cemetery. The first week of June my daughter and > I were traveling through Coffeeville enroute to parts North (Fort Payne)in > Alabama to visit family members. While there we decided to stop at the > Ulcanush Cemetery. > This is an old cemetery, and is one which I compiled years ago by > photographing each and every grave individually in order to help preserve > the history of the cemetery. I managed to get most of those buried there > recorded, and my daughter has the compilation up on her site which is found > by going to the Guenther Tindle Genealogy site at > http:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/3724/index.html > The Ulcanush can be seen by clicking on the Cemetery index and going to > Alabama, then Clarke County. > After walking around the cemetery, and not being able to find the > stones of my great great grandparents , Thomas and Malinda Stephens Harris, > I became puzzled. I mentioned to my daughter that I KNEW they were near > "where the bushes had been removed", as that had caught my eye before even > looking at anything in the cemetery, since it was neareset to where I knew > some family memebers were buried. It just never struck me that I should be > looking for something lying flat on the ground. Especially two stones that > were as secure as they were known to be within the ground! > Suddenly after strolling around, I happened to look down , and was > so STUNNED to see what I knew to be Thomas' gravestone lying flat on it's > back! After glancing around , I saw Malinda's also. There was one other > stone that was uprooted , and although I can't recall the name at the > moment, I did photograph it so as not to leave it forgotten..... > This is something that HAD to happen when the bushes were removed, > and I'm hoping that it's not assumed that the graves of my great great > grandparents are forgotten, because there may not be Harris' close by at the > present. I just do'nt understand why they were left lying on the ground like > that. > I got out my 1980 Coffeeville Phone book, and after trying to call > the Ulcanush was unsuccessful as the number no longer exists , and there > doesn't seem to be a replacement number or a listing for th Ulcansush > Church. I left a message on a Methodist Church number with instructions to > call me collect. It was my only alternative to finding someone, but haven't > heard back as of now. > Our family needs to find the party who would best be able to aid us > in getting the stones re-established in the ground where they were before > the roots, etc being pulled from the bushes caused the damage. I felt that > the Ulcanush would be the place to start, but am now wondering if it is even > an established church there, although we saw nothng that gave us any > indication that it had changed , by looking at the signs, etc... > It just never occurred to me that after going through the time and > expense of shooting and developing over 500 photographs in that one cemetery > that my own family history would be endangered after the fact, and it was a > sad occasion for us that day, let alone , surprise.... > Can someone out there offer a name and number for us to begin > righting this situation? We would be forever grateful! I'd like also to > mention that the people that we encountered while there were very nice, but > we were traveling, and had to move on the day we stopped, as we had my two > very young grandchildren with us, > and were due to sleep in a Fort Payne Motel that evening, so just continued > on from the cemetery to our destination after being there..... > Kathy Tindle, Las Vegas....... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >