The descendants of Uriah Lipscomb Noble (Mary Alice Harrison) and William Juston Harrison (Carrie Mae Dixon) are planning a reunion to be held at Bashan Baptist Church on Tallahatta Springs Road on Saturday, the 26th of May, 2001 at 10:30 a.m. Please bring a covered dish, genealogy records and photographs. For more information, contact, Nancy Noble Harrison @ 256-442-6295 or SoReflect1@aol.com, or contact William Wentford Noble @ 334-636-5230. See you there!! Nancy

Thanks for all the great information. I truly appreciate your many replies and assistance. I have included some of the replies below for others who may be interested in the replies. ---------------- I am not familiar with the 'quick marriagees' of early times, but during the 1930s and 1940s, it was a common practice to circumvent the three day waiting period for blood tests in Alabama, that couples eloped to Lucedale, Mississippi where marriage chapels and motels were a booming business. > I don't know much about where people from around this area went to get married in a hurry, but I do know that very many people from here went to Meridian, MS to get married because Mississippi did not require a blood test, and they could go to the court house there, get a marriage license, and get married on the spot by the Probate Judge. In looking for records of people who might not have gone this far out of the way to get married, I would check the records in Linden and Camden, but if the couple were married after the blood test law, which I think came in somewhere around WWII (It could have been a little before this time) keep in mind that they would have had to have a blood test done prior to getting married if they got married in Alabama. If they just slipped off from the family and got married, it might be more likely to check the records at Meridian. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dennis, This marriage is listed in the Barefield book - "Clarke County, Alabama, Records 1814-1885" on p. 4. Source is "Marriage Records Clarke Co., AL, Volume A, 1814-1834. Mary is listed as Mary YANNCE. Also, if you have access to it, in Family Tree Maker's World Family Tree Vol. 46, Tree #25, one of the Elijah Calk descendants lists that marriage but without a specific date. > -----Original Message----- > From: roxana_yancey [mailto:roxana_yancey@netzero.net] > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:46 PM > To: ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Yancey / Calk - 1820 > > > Trying to cinfirm/validate a marriage between Mary Yancey - and > Elijah Calk - 13 Mar 1820 in Clarke Co., AL. > > I wonder if they are on the 1850 census ? > > send any finro to : > > Dennis J Yancey > dyancey@miami.edu > > >

I have a family stories that tell of daughter's not getting permission to marry their beaus and then running off to get married "across the line" for a quick marriage. Does anyone know where people for Thomasville or Clarke County went for quick marriages? Is anyone familiar with the marriage laws that may have encouraged such running off? Thanks for your time and kind help. Cassandra Davis, C.Davis1@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

The following is taken from "Victory at Yorktown" by Donald Barr Chidsey "At Yorktown, Lieutenant Colonel Tarleton was assigned to the protective point across the river, Gloucester. With him were two other lieutenant colonels, Simcoe and Dundas. Dundas was in charge. They had about seven hundred men in all. Facing them were some Virginia militia under Brigadier General Weedon, and the Duc de Lauzun's legion, the whole under the command of General de Choisy. This containing force greatly outnumbered the defenders. On October 3 Simcoe and Tarleton went out on a large foraging party, and at the same time De Choisy with his whole command started for the village. It was De Choisy's purpose to pin the British to the very tip of the peninsula, which would make them easier to watch. Neither side, at that time, knew what the other was up to. De Choisy's advance guard, a company of dragoons under personal command of another dashing young man, the duke, came into one end of a country lane at the very moment when the foraging party's rear guard, under Tarleton, was going out of the other end. The French raised a shout and charged. Never a man to run from a fight, Tarleton wheeled about and started at them. There was a spirited to-do in the course of which the two celebrated soldier-Lotharios almost came face to face. Tarleton was knocked from his horse, but he got another and rallied his men. The French fell back a little. Tarleton was about to charge them when a new force came into the field, attracted by the shooting. This was a company of Virginia militia under Lieutenant Colonel John Mercer. They were good men, most of them old soldiers. After a few exchanges, Tarleton, no fool saw that what he was facing was not an outflung party but the advance of a whole army: and he ordered a retreat." ------ The following was taken from "The Siege of Yorktown" by Christopher Ward "In a field behind the approaches a squadron of French hussars formed a circle into which the British and Hessian regiments successively marched, piling their arms. The defeated troops at Gloucester were surrendered to Choisy by Tarleton, who had succeeded in Dundas in command. Tarleton, having in mind his evil reputation, had told Choisy that he feared for his life if he were left to the mercies of the American militia. Choisy therefore had only Lauzun's Legion and Mercer's Virginians drawn up for the ceremony, keeping the rest in camp. No violence was offered to Tarleton."

The State of Alabama Clarke County On this the 5th day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & thirty two personally appearing in open court before me Samuel Wilkenson Judge of the County Court of Clarke County State of Alabama now sitting John Cox a resident of the State of Alabama in the County of Clarke aged sixty eight years who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated that we entered the Service in the Virginia Militia on the first of September Seventeen hundred & Eighty One that he entered the service under the command of Captain William Gatewood and that shortly after he entered the Service he was taken into a grenadier company commanded by Col. Mercer he further states that the troops that he served in was commanded by General Weeden, and that he lived at the time he entered service in Essex County, Virginia and that he was drafted to serve two months in the Virginia Militia and that he marched thru King & Queen Counties and into Middlesex County from there to Glocester and that he served about two months he further states that he has no documenting evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service. I hereby relinquish every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declare that my name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any State. Where and in what year were you born I was born in Essex County Virginia in the year Seventeen hundred and Sixty four Have you any record of your age and if so where is it I have none Where were you living when called into service, where have you lived since the Revolutionary war and where do you now live I lived when called into service as above stated in my declaration in Essex County, Virginia from Virginia I moved to the State of South Carolina Pendleton District Page 2 And that he lived there nearly Eighteen years, from there moved to Franklin County Georgia lived there some years and from thence moved to the Mississippi Territory now the State of Alabama, Clarke County where he now lives. How were you called into Service, were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a Substitute and if a Substitute for whom? I was drafted in the Virginia Militia as above stated in my declaration State the names of some of the regular Officers who were with the troops which you served, such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general Circumstances of your Service I was at Glocester attached to the Militia recollects General Wayne many french Officers were in Glocester at the time but do not recollect their names Did you ever receive a discharge from the Services And if so by whom it was given and what is become of it I received no discharge, was dismissed after Cornwallis was taken State the names of the persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood and who can testify as to our character for Veracity and good behavior your Services as a Soldier of the Revolution- Mathew Cox and Malcomb Calhoun Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid His John x Cox Mark We Malcomb calhoun a clergyman residing in the County of Clarke State of Alabama and Matthew Cox residing in the same do hereby Certify that we are wee acquainted with John Cox who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be Sixty eight years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier in the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid Malcom Calhoun Clergyman Matthew Cox And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the Interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he stated and the Court further Certified that it appears to him that Malcomb Calhoun who has Signed the preceding Certificate is a Clergyman resident in the County of Clarke State of Alabama and that Matthew Cox who had also signed the same is a resident in the County and State aforesaid and is a Credible person and that their Statement is entitled to Credit Samuel Wilkinson

Trying to cinfirm/validate a marriage between Mary Yancey - and Elijah Calk - 13 Mar 1820 in Clarke Co., AL. I wonder if they are on the 1850 census ? send any finro to : Dennis J Yancey dyancey@miami.edu

Thanks for passing along this important information. I periodically update my genealogical program. Th information in this newsletter will help me make a decision about my next update purchase. I will make sure it will create GEDCOM files in the new file format. Nelda G. Spires marnel@ellijay.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassandra Davis <c.davis1@juno.com> To: <ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: - LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard > - LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard > > At a technical session of the GENTECH2001 conference last week, > Randy Bryson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints > (the Mormons) announced that the Church is now standardizing on the > XML programming language for all future software products. This > announcement will have an immediate impact on producers of > genealogy software and eventually will benefit all genealogists. > > Mr. Bryson is the Director of the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy > Service for the LDS Family History Department and also is the > Information Technology Manager over the Ancestral File, Resource > Files, Research Guidance and Extraction applications. As such, he > is responsible for compatibility among these products. The de facto > data exchange standard for many years has been GEDCOM, a file > format that is well-known for its imperfections. GEDCOM, an > abbreviation for Genealogy Data COMmunications, was created by the > LDS Church in the mid-1980s as a method of exchanging genealogy > data between different programs. The specifications for GEDCCOM > file format have been updated a few times since then, and GEDCOM > files have become the most common method of exchanging data between > distant relatives. GEDCOM files also are used to contribute an > individual's data to the large, centralized databases of the LDS > Church and other organizations. > > In its first iteration, GEDCOM files consisted of ASCII text. > Unlike binary files used by most other programs, you can open a > GEDCOM file with a simple text editor and read the data contained > therein. Later versions of GEDCOM were expanded to include ANSEL > and Unicode, in addition to ASCII. Because of these updates, GEDCOM > files can now handle umlauts and accents and other marks common in > European alphabets. However, you can still read this data with a > text editor, such as Windows Notepad. > > GEDCOM has always suffered from numerous shortcomings, one > limitation being the use of text. Other limitations have included > difficulties with handling non-European names, handling imprecise > data, and also the method of handling contradictory data such as we > all find in genealogy research. > > In the 1990s, two separate and exhaustive studies of exchanging > data between genealogy programs were made. The two were conducted > more or less simultaneously: > > 1. One study was the GEDCOM Testbook Project, funded by GENTECH. > The results of that project are called "GEDCOM Interchange Study > Summary" and are available at: > http://www.gentech.org/testbook/summary.htm. The GENTECH effort > later spun off a second, larger study, called the GENTECH > Genealogical Data Model. While not dealing directly with the GEDCOM > standard, it does address many issues that GEDCOM programmers need > to be familiar with. > > 2. The other study was conducted by the Family History Department > of the LDS Church. It resulted in the GEDCOM Future Directions > document, published by the Family History Department, available at: > ftp://gedcom.org/pub/genealogy/gedcom > > The two studies were different in scope and purpose. The > conclusions and recommendations of the two were also somewhat > different although similar in some ways. It is interesting to note > that the XML standard was mostly unknown at the time these studies > began but came into prominence before the conclusion of these > studies. While XML was not cited as a specific recommendation in > either study, I have since heard the authors of both studies make > reference to XML as a possible solution to some of the shortcomings > of today's methodologies. > > XML is an abbreviation for "Extensible Markup Language," a > programming language that has become very popular for applications > that function on the World Wide Web. If you have made airline > reservations online or purchased other goods from an online > merchant, you have probably used an XML-based application without > realizing it. A discussion of XML is beyond the scope of this > article. For reference, I would suggest you start at > http://www.xml.com or with any of the many good books on the topic > available at your local bookstore. > > I also should mention another alternative to GEDCOM's shortcomings: > Wholly Genes Software created GenBridge, a different method of > directly transferring data between different databases that does > not use GEDCOM at all. While Wholly Genes has had great success > with GenBridge, other software producers have not yet adopted it. > > Randy Bryson's announcement of the adoption of XML illustrates the > LDS Church's concerns and plans. Obviously, the programmers at the > Family History Department have read these two studies and are > proceeding with some of the recommendations. The introduction of > XML will increase accuracy as well as allow for the use of non- > European characters. A future release of the GEDCOM standard will > be XML-based. The LDS databases will also accept XML data, > databases such as the Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, > International Genealogical Index and others. > > My guess is that the commercial Internet genealogy databases > (Ancestry.com, genealogy.com, OneGreatFamily.com, etc.) will also > convert to XML input, perhaps even before the LDS Church completes > their conversion. Obviously, all the genealogy programs used by > individuals will also need to produce XML-formatted GEDCOM files in > compliance with the new specification. I am sure we will see future > versions of The Master Genealogist, Personal Ancestral File, Family > Tree Maker, Family Origins, Legacy and other genealogy programs > that will produce XML files, once the new GEDCOM replacement format > has been defined. > > None of this exists today. Randy Bryson's announcement simply > indicates a future course. I suspect it will be two years or even > longer before the new XML format is in place and in use. However, > the benefits will justify the wait. > ========================================================== > > DISCLAIMER: This newsletter is being written and sent via e-mail at > no charge. I expect to write one new issue on a more or less weekly > basis. However, life sometimes interferes, and the need to earn a > living may create an occasional delay. > > ========================================================== > > COPYRIGHTS: The contents of this newsletter are copyright by > Richard W. Eastman with the following exception: > > Many of the articles published in these newsletters contain quotes > or references from others, especially from other Web sites, > software users manuals, press releases and other public > announcements. Any words in this newsletter attributed to another > person or organization remain the copyrighted materials of the > original author(s). > > You are hereby granted rights, unless otherwise specified, to re- > distribute articles from this newsletter to other parties provided: > > 1. You do so strictly for non-commercial purposes > > 2. Your re-distribution is limited to one or two articles per > newsletter; do not re-distribute the newsletter in its entirety > > 3. You may not republish any articles containing words attributed > to another person or organization until you obtain permission from > that person or organization. While you do have permission to > republish words written by Richard W. Eastman, you do not have > automatic authority to republish words written by others, even if > their words appear in this newsletter. > > Also, please include the following statement with any articles you > re-distribute: > > The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter > and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published > here with the permission of the author. > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > ========================================================== > > Subscription information: There are two different methods to > subscribe to this free newsletter: > > Method #1: to subscribe, to cancel an existing subscription, modify > an existing subscription in any way or to read back issues, go to: > http://www.rootsforum.com/newsletter.htm > > Method #2: Send an e-mail to rootscomputing-subscribe@listbot.com > > Please feel free to copy this subscription information and pass it > on to anyone else who you think might be interested in obtaining a > free subscription. > > ========================================================== > > About the author: Dick Eastman is the forum manager of the three > Genealogy Forums on CompuServe. He also is the author of "YOUR > ROOTS: Total Genealogy Planning On Your Computer" published by > Ziff-Davis Press. He can be reached at: richard@eastman.net > _____________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to rootscomputing-unsubscribe@listbot.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

Just a note to let you know that I have last night's Alabama chat transcripts up: http://huntsville.about.com/library/blal021201.htm You're welcome to pass this information on to your friends! Jean Brandau huntsville2@home.com

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:12:39 -0600 "David R Wilson" <dr.homer@mindspring.com> writes: > How is this span getting on ALCLARKE-L? <refernce to messages> Expansion of "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step" and LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard This is a nice informative email, if I were a programmer, but I am a part-time personal genealogy researcher. > In what context does this apply to the genealogy of Clark Co., Alabama? I do not subscribe to this newletter, I checked my subscription. Do I have to unsubscribe from Clark-L to stop getting this? Dave Wilson, Mobile, AL Genealogical Data Bases (Direct) http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dr_homer-1 (DuBose - Wilson) http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=wd_wilson-1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks you for your questions. The messages were not spam messages. They were not automated messages. They were sent in by a member who thought they were of interest to genealogist. I know they would not be of interest to everyone, but I thought they would be to some in the group. They were not sent with ill intent. I is a common email curtesy to include were you get none original material. The statements at the end of the emails were only to honor the request writer's request and meet copyright requirements. "Family History Made Easy" is a often referenced website that covers the steps of doing genealogy research. I sent the updated website information for those new and non-expert in genealogy research, like myself. LDS is a major element in genealogy. They have microfilmed many of the Clarke Cty as well as other local information. The fact that LDS History Dept. is changing their program standards, means that other genealogy programs will change also. I am not a programmer. However, I do use a genealogy program and sometimes share information with relatives. Again, I thought it would be of interest to others who use computer programs and share information. There was no intent, by posting the messages, to bother others, pollute the listserv with needless chatter. I have received none Clarke county specific email from through ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com, so I thought the information would be OK to send. I will refrain from sending non Clarke county email. I will now only send messages specific to Clarke county. Thank you for informing me of the proper procedure. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dave Wilson, Mobile, AL This is a nice informative email, if I were a programmer, but I am a part-time personal genealogy researcher. In what context does this apply to the genealogy of Clark Co., Alabama? Dave Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassandra Davis" <c.davis1@juno.com> To: <ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: - LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard > - LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard > > At a technical session of the GENTECH2001 conference last week, > Randy Bryson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints > (the Mormons) announced that the Church is now standardizing on the > XML programming language for all future software products. This > announcement will have an immediate impact on producers of > genealogy software and eventually will benefit all genealogists. > > Mr. Bryson is the Director of the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy > Service for the LDS Family History Department and also is the > Information Technology Manager over the Ancestral File, Resource > Files, Research Guidance and Extraction applications. As such, he > is responsible for compatibility among these products. The de facto > data exchange standard for many years has been GEDCOM, a file > format that is well-known for its imperfections. GEDCOM, an > abbreviation for Genealogy Data COMmunications, was created by the > LDS Church in the mid-1980s as a method of exchanging genealogy > data between different programs. The specifications for GEDCCOM > file format have been updated a few times since then, and GEDCOM > files have become the most common method of exchanging data between > distant relatives. GEDCOM files also are used to contribute an > individual's data to the large, centralized databases of the LDS > Church and other organizations. > > In its first iteration, GEDCOM files consisted of ASCII text. > Unlike binary files used by most other programs, you can open a > GEDCOM file with a simple text editor and read the data contained > therein. Later versions of GEDCOM were expanded to include ANSEL > and Unicode, in addition to ASCII. Because of these updates, GEDCOM > files can now handle umlauts and accents and other marks common in > European alphabets. However, you can still read this data with a > text editor, such as Windows Notepad. > > GEDCOM has always suffered from numerous shortcomings, one > limitation being the use of text. Other limitations have included > difficulties with handling non-European names, handling imprecise > data, and also the method of handling contradictory data such as we > all find in genealogy research. > > In the 1990s, two separate and exhaustive studies of exchanging > data between genealogy programs were made. The two were conducted > more or less simultaneously: > > 1. One study was the GEDCOM Testbook Project, funded by GENTECH. > The results of that project are called "GEDCOM Interchange Study > Summary" and are available at: > http://www.gentech.org/testbook/summary.htm. The GENTECH effort > later spun off a second, larger study, called the GENTECH > Genealogical Data Model. While not dealing directly with the GEDCOM > standard, it does address many issues that GEDCOM programmers need > to be familiar with. > > 2. The other study was conducted by the Family History Department > of the LDS Church. It resulted in the GEDCOM Future Directions > document, published by the Family History Department, available at: > ftp://gedcom.org/pub/genealogy/gedcom > > The two studies were different in scope and purpose. The > conclusions and recommendations of the two were also somewhat > different although similar in some ways. It is interesting to note > that the XML standard was mostly unknown at the time these studies > began but came into prominence before the conclusion of these > studies. While XML was not cited as a specific recommendation in > either study, I have since heard the authors of both studies make > reference to XML as a possible solution to some of the shortcomings > of today's methodologies. > > XML is an abbreviation for "Extensible Markup Language," a > programming language that has become very popular for applications > that function on the World Wide Web. If you have made airline > reservations online or purchased other goods from an online > merchant, you have probably used an XML-based application without > realizing it. A discussion of XML is beyond the scope of this > article. For reference, I would suggest you start at > http://www.xml.com or with any of the many good books on the topic > available at your local bookstore. > > I also should mention another alternative to GEDCOM's shortcomings: > Wholly Genes Software created GenBridge, a different method of > directly transferring data between different databases that does > not use GEDCOM at all. While Wholly Genes has had great success > with GenBridge, other software producers have not yet adopted it. > > Randy Bryson's announcement of the adoption of XML illustrates the > LDS Church's concerns and plans. Obviously, the programmers at the > Family History Department have read these two studies and are > proceeding with some of the recommendations. The introduction of > XML will increase accuracy as well as allow for the use of non- > European characters. A future release of the GEDCOM standard will > be XML-based. The LDS databases will also accept XML data, > databases such as the Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, > International Genealogical Index and others. > > My guess is that the commercial Internet genealogy databases > (Ancestry.com, genealogy.com, OneGreatFamily.com, etc.) will also > convert to XML input, perhaps even before the LDS Church completes > their conversion. Obviously, all the genealogy programs used by > individuals will also need to produce XML-formatted GEDCOM files in > compliance with the new specification. I am sure we will see future > versions of The Master Genealogist, Personal Ancestral File, Family > Tree Maker, Family Origins, Legacy and other genealogy programs > that will produce XML files, once the new GEDCOM replacement format > has been defined. > > None of this exists today. Randy Bryson's announcement simply > indicates a future course. I suspect it will be two years or even > longer before the new XML format is in place and in use. However, > the benefits will justify the wait. > ========================================================== > > DISCLAIMER: This newsletter is being written and sent via e-mail at > no charge. I expect to write one new issue on a more or less weekly > basis. However, life sometimes interferes, and the need to earn a > living may create an occasional delay. > > ========================================================== > > COPYRIGHTS: The contents of this newsletter are copyright by > Richard W. Eastman with the following exception: > > Many of the articles published in these newsletters contain quotes > or references from others, especially from other Web sites, > software users manuals, press releases and other public > announcements. Any words in this newsletter attributed to another > person or organization remain the copyrighted materials of the > original author(s). > > You are hereby granted rights, unless otherwise specified, to re- > distribute articles from this newsletter to other parties provided: > > 1. You do so strictly for non-commercial purposes > > 2. Your re-distribution is limited to one or two articles per > newsletter; do not re-distribute the newsletter in its entirety > > 3. You may not republish any articles containing words attributed > to another person or organization until you obtain permission from > that person or organization. While you do have permission to > republish words written by Richard W. Eastman, you do not have > automatic authority to republish words written by others, even if > their words appear in this newsletter. > > Also, please include the following statement with any articles you > re-distribute: > > The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter > and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published > here with the permission of the author. > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > ========================================================== > > Subscription information: There are two different methods to > subscribe to this free newsletter: > > Method #1: to subscribe, to cancel an existing subscription, modify > an existing subscription in any way or to read back issues, go to: > http://www.rootsforum.com/newsletter.htm > > Method #2: Send an e-mail to rootscomputing-subscribe@listbot.com > > Please feel free to copy this subscription information and pass it > on to anyone else who you think might be interested in obtaining a > free subscription. > > ========================================================== > > About the author: Dick Eastman is the forum manager of the three > Genealogy Forums on CompuServe. He also is the author of "YOUR > ROOTS: Total Genealogy Planning On Your Computer" published by > Ziff-Davis Press. 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- Expansion of "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step" Last August I wrote in this newsletter about Ancestry.com's online articles entitled, "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step." That issue can be read at: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/2261.asp. "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step" is an excellent tutorial aimed at the newcomer to family tree searches. Best of all, it is free. The "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step" series has now been expanded to include even more content. It now has three more articles, for a total of 12: Step 1: Getting Started Step 2: Treasures in the Attic Step 3: Living Sources Step 4: Beginning Your Library Research Step 5: At the Library Step 6: Secondary Source Research Step 7: Primary Sources and Vital Records Step 8: Census Records Step 9: Immigration Records Step 10: Naturalization Records Step 11: Military Records Step 12: Land Records Three more articles are to be added in a few more months. You can read "Family History Made Easy: Step by Step" at: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/2082.asp ========================================================== DISCLAIMER: This newsletter is being written and sent via e-mail at no charge. I expect to write one new issue on a more or less weekly basis. However, life sometimes interferes, and the need to earn a living may create an occasional delay. ========================================================== COPYRIGHTS: The contents of this newsletter are copyright by Richard W. Eastman with the following exception: Many of the articles published in these newsletters contain quotes or references from others, especially from other Web sites, software users manuals, press releases and other public announcements. Any words in this newsletter attributed to another person or organization remain the copyrighted materials of the original author(s). You are hereby granted rights, unless otherwise specified, to re- distribute articles from this newsletter to other parties provided: 1. You do so strictly for non-commercial purposes 2. Your re-distribution is limited to one or two articles per newsletter; do not re-distribute the newsletter in its entirety 3. You may not republish any articles containing words attributed to another person or organization until you obtain permission from that person or organization. While you do have permission to republish words written by Richard W. Eastman, you do not have automatic authority to republish words written by others, even if their words appear in this newsletter. Also, please include the following statement with any articles you re-distribute: The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Thank you for your cooperation. ========================================================== Subscription information: There are two different methods to subscribe to this free newsletter: Method #1: to subscribe, to cancel an existing subscription, modify an existing subscription in any way or to read back issues, go to: http://www.rootsforum.com/newsletter.htm Method #2: Send an e-mail to rootscomputing-subscribe@listbot.com Please feel free to copy this subscription information and pass it on to anyone else who you think might be interested in obtaining a free subscription. ========================================================== About the author: Dick Eastman is the forum manager of the three Genealogy Forums on CompuServe. He also is the author of "YOUR ROOTS: Total Genealogy Planning On Your Computer" published by Ziff-Davis Press. He can be reached at: richard@eastman.net ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to rootscomputing-unsubscribe@listbot.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

- LDS Family History Department Adopts XML Standard At a technical session of the GENTECH2001 conference last week, Randy Bryson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) announced that the Church is now standardizing on the XML programming language for all future software products. This announcement will have an immediate impact on producers of genealogy software and eventually will benefit all genealogists. Mr. Bryson is the Director of the FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service for the LDS Family History Department and also is the Information Technology Manager over the Ancestral File, Resource Files, Research Guidance and Extraction applications. As such, he is responsible for compatibility among these products. The de facto data exchange standard for many years has been GEDCOM, a file format that is well-known for its imperfections. GEDCOM, an abbreviation for Genealogy Data COMmunications, was created by the LDS Church in the mid-1980s as a method of exchanging genealogy data between different programs. The specifications for GEDCCOM file format have been updated a few times since then, and GEDCOM files have become the most common method of exchanging data between distant relatives. GEDCOM files also are used to contribute an individual's data to the large, centralized databases of the LDS Church and other organizations. In its first iteration, GEDCOM files consisted of ASCII text. Unlike binary files used by most other programs, you can open a GEDCOM file with a simple text editor and read the data contained therein. Later versions of GEDCOM were expanded to include ANSEL and Unicode, in addition to ASCII. Because of these updates, GEDCOM files can now handle umlauts and accents and other marks common in European alphabets. However, you can still read this data with a text editor, such as Windows Notepad. GEDCOM has always suffered from numerous shortcomings, one limitation being the use of text. Other limitations have included difficulties with handling non-European names, handling imprecise data, and also the method of handling contradictory data such as we all find in genealogy research. In the 1990s, two separate and exhaustive studies of exchanging data between genealogy programs were made. The two were conducted more or less simultaneously: 1. One study was the GEDCOM Testbook Project, funded by GENTECH. The results of that project are called "GEDCOM Interchange Study Summary" and are available at: http://www.gentech.org/testbook/summary.htm. The GENTECH effort later spun off a second, larger study, called the GENTECH Genealogical Data Model. While not dealing directly with the GEDCOM standard, it does address many issues that GEDCOM programmers need to be familiar with. 2. The other study was conducted by the Family History Department of the LDS Church. It resulted in the GEDCOM Future Directions document, published by the Family History Department, available at: ftp://gedcom.org/pub/genealogy/gedcom The two studies were different in scope and purpose. The conclusions and recommendations of the two were also somewhat different although similar in some ways. It is interesting to note that the XML standard was mostly unknown at the time these studies began but came into prominence before the conclusion of these studies. While XML was not cited as a specific recommendation in either study, I have since heard the authors of both studies make reference to XML as a possible solution to some of the shortcomings of today's methodologies. XML is an abbreviation for "Extensible Markup Language," a programming language that has become very popular for applications that function on the World Wide Web. If you have made airline reservations online or purchased other goods from an online merchant, you have probably used an XML-based application without realizing it. A discussion of XML is beyond the scope of this article. For reference, I would suggest you start at http://www.xml.com or with any of the many good books on the topic available at your local bookstore. I also should mention another alternative to GEDCOM's shortcomings: Wholly Genes Software created GenBridge, a different method of directly transferring data between different databases that does not use GEDCOM at all. While Wholly Genes has had great success with GenBridge, other software producers have not yet adopted it. Randy Bryson's announcement of the adoption of XML illustrates the LDS Church's concerns and plans. Obviously, the programmers at the Family History Department have read these two studies and are proceeding with some of the recommendations. The introduction of XML will increase accuracy as well as allow for the use of non- European characters. A future release of the GEDCOM standard will be XML-based. The LDS databases will also accept XML data, databases such as the Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, International Genealogical Index and others. My guess is that the commercial Internet genealogy databases (Ancestry.com, genealogy.com, OneGreatFamily.com, etc.) will also convert to XML input, perhaps even before the LDS Church completes their conversion. Obviously, all the genealogy programs used by individuals will also need to produce XML-formatted GEDCOM files in compliance with the new specification. I am sure we will see future versions of The Master Genealogist, Personal Ancestral File, Family Tree Maker, Family Origins, Legacy and other genealogy programs that will produce XML files, once the new GEDCOM replacement format has been defined. None of this exists today. Randy Bryson's announcement simply indicates a future course. I suspect it will be two years or even longer before the new XML format is in place and in use. However, the benefits will justify the wait. ========================================================== DISCLAIMER: This newsletter is being written and sent via e-mail at no charge. I expect to write one new issue on a more or less weekly basis. However, life sometimes interferes, and the need to earn a living may create an occasional delay. ========================================================== COPYRIGHTS: The contents of this newsletter are copyright by Richard W. Eastman with the following exception: Many of the articles published in these newsletters contain quotes or references from others, especially from other Web sites, software users manuals, press releases and other public announcements. Any words in this newsletter attributed to another person or organization remain the copyrighted materials of the original author(s). You are hereby granted rights, unless otherwise specified, to re- distribute articles from this newsletter to other parties provided: 1. You do so strictly for non-commercial purposes 2. Your re-distribution is limited to one or two articles per newsletter; do not re-distribute the newsletter in its entirety 3. You may not republish any articles containing words attributed to another person or organization until you obtain permission from that person or organization. While you do have permission to republish words written by Richard W. Eastman, you do not have automatic authority to republish words written by others, even if their words appear in this newsletter. Also, please include the following statement with any articles you re-distribute: The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Thank you for your cooperation. ========================================================== Subscription information: There are two different methods to subscribe to this free newsletter: Method #1: to subscribe, to cancel an existing subscription, modify an existing subscription in any way or to read back issues, go to: http://www.rootsforum.com/newsletter.htm Method #2: Send an e-mail to rootscomputing-subscribe@listbot.com Please feel free to copy this subscription information and pass it on to anyone else who you think might be interested in obtaining a free subscription. ========================================================== About the author: Dick Eastman is the forum manager of the three Genealogy Forums on CompuServe. He also is the author of "YOUR ROOTS: Total Genealogy Planning On Your Computer" published by Ziff-Davis Press. 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Hello everyone, I am tring to find a connection to David or Jessie Griffin from Clarke County. They were said to have been killed in 1813 Indian War. What I have is John Griffin born abt 1807 in Georgia or perhaps Alabama married twice in Clarke County, 1st to Jane G. Walker Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1831 he married 2nd, Sarah Glass Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1835 with whom he had 7 children. One of their children was JOHN F or M GRIFFIN who married Ann Mc Kinley in Monroe County. This is my direct line William Griffin born abt 1813 married Anne Drinkard 10-1836 Marengo County, Alabama. Right across the line from Clarke County. While I have the family line of John Griffin and Ann McKinley down to present day, I would like to find out if my John belongs to the family above. John and Ann had 5 children all born in Monroe County, Alabama. They did name their first born son SYLVESTER, this name does not appear in the McKinley family. It might be a clue in the Griffin family. Any help suggestions hints or clues would be greatly appreciated Debbie

I guess I`ve done it again. Always wait until it`s too late to send in my article. Wondered if I might be able to send in a short bio. of Abraham Walker and Martha Patton via.email for the heritage book? Sue in No. Al.

I looked at the website and found out that there was not a Thomasville newspaper until recently. I mis-understood that the Thomasville newspaper to be the oldest local business. And that the old newspapers had been microfilmed because of their deterioration. I am looking for Thomasville / Choctaw Corner newspapers for 1850 - 1930. Advise is very welcoome. Thanks, Cassandra ------ http://www.archives.state.al.us/referenc/distant.html#INTERLIBRARY LOANS go to this page Date sent: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:06:45 EST Subject: Thomasville Newspaper Microfilm To: ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com > Would someone be so kind as to email me > information on to get the Thomasville > newpaper microfilm on interlibrary loan > > Thanks ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Just a note to let you know that I have last night's Alabama chat transcripts up: http://huntsville.about.com/library/blal020501.htm You're welcome to pass this information on to your friends! Jean Brandau huntsville2@about.com

List: I am researching the above Cavalry Unit. This was a Civil War Unit. If anyone on the list wishes to share anything they may have, I would be extremely grateful. I am interested in anything to do with the unit INCLUDING possible burial locations of members. Below is a roster taken from CLARKE AND IT'S SURROUNDINGS. Thanks In Advance, Robert McMillan Stockton,Al 272 and of asserting at the point of. the bayonet if necessary, -their right to throw off the- oppressor's yoke, so, fair friends, do we pledge our fortunes, our lives and our sacred honor, to defend this offering of yours at the shrine of liberty. When next it meets your gaze, a deeper crimson may die its folds-upon its blue-field you may trace a stain made by the blood of its defenders-but I feel assured I may "pledge the lives of the gallant spirits around me that dishonor's tarnish will not be there. Grays: You have heard the pledges which you have authorized me to make. I charge you. see to it they are fulfilled. To your keeping I consign this sacred trust -watch over it as vigilantly as you would the well-being of those who have presented it -guard it as you would the nearest and dearest objiect of your life -should any fall in its defence let their comrades be able to report to these fair donors. that a soldier's fate, has met with a soldier's Honor." The third company, of which records appear, bore the name of CLARKE COUNTY RANGERS. ROLL OF CAPTAIN CLEVELAND'S CLARK COUNTY CAVALRY: S. B. CLEVELAND, Captain. J. Y. KILPATRICK (KIRKPATRICK?), lst Lieut. T. B. CREAGH, 3d Lieut. J, C. CHAPMAN, orderly Serg't. Privates-R. J. AlIen, W. M. Bell, T. J. Booth,. R. R. Bryars, Jerrold Byrne, J. T. Clark, of Clarke. J. T. Clark, of Baldwin, G. T. Cox, G. W. Creagh. Hiram Creighton, J. .A. Culpepper, Martin Casey, W. D. Campbell, J. M. Davis, J. A. Davis, L. W. Davis, J. K. Davidson, W.H. Doyle, A. J. Drury , U. L. Durant, W.J. Fanning, R. E. German, J. E. Griffin, W. H. Grayson, D. P. Gregory, Daniel Gil- more, Henry Hammond, G. P.Herbot, 0. S. Holmes, R. R. Horn, J. L Howell, James Kennison, J.W. Litchfield, Henry Lovet, E. G.Masters, Elijah Math ews. B.F.McMillan, R. D. McMillan, J. A. McKiney, D.T. Moseley, W.K. Moseley, W.M. Nelson John Newton. William Palnter. Columbus Pa1nter. William Porterfle1d. T.T. Presnall. E. H. Ritchie. J. M. Rivers. Lee Roberts, J. A. Robinson. G. W. Rob- 1nson. E. Rodgers. W.F. Sibley, A. S. Sibley, N. B. Siglestacy, E. C. Smlth. J. H. Smith. E. M. Stapelton. W.W. Summers. Frank Taylor,John Tyree. G. A. Wade. R. M.Wainright, M. V. B.Wainright, J. M. Williams, John S Wood.

go to this page http://www.archives.state.al.us/referenc/distant.html#INTERLIBRAR Y LOANS ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date forwarded: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:59:22 -0800 Date sent: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:06:45 EST Subject: Thomasville Newspaper Microfilm From: Cassandra Davis <c.davis1@juno.com> To: ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com Would someone be so kind as to email me information on to get the Thomasville newpaper microfilm on interlibrary loan Thanks ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------- End of forwarded message -------

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