Does anyone know where "Township 2, Range 16 at River Hill, Beat 8" is located (as listed in the 1880 Clarke Co census)? Thank you. Nancy Bell

More Maps: - Digital Sanborn Maps Online Many genealogists have never heard of the Sanborn Maps. These maps of cities and towns can be a great genealogy resource. Founded in 1867 by D. A. Sanborn, the Sanborn Map Company was the primary American publisher of fire insurance maps for nearly 100 years. Their maps were designed to help insurance companies estimate the potential risk for urban structures. These maps are gradually becoming available online. The maps include information such as the outline of each building, the size, shape and construction materials, heights, and function of structures, location of windows and doors. The maps also give street names, street and sidewalk widths, property boundaries, building use, and house and block numbers. They often give textual information on construction details (for example, steel beams or reinforced walls) on the plans and indicate different building materials with shading. Extensive information on building ranges from symbols for generic terms, such as stable, garage, and warehouse, to names of owners of factories and details on what was manufactured in them. In the case of large factories or commercial buildings, the maps even record individual rooms and their purposes. Other features shown include pipelines, railroads, wells, dumps, and heavy machinery. In most cases, these maps do not list the owners' names. However, if you have already found your ancestor's address in a city directory or elsewhere, you can now look at a map of his or her property by accessing the Sanborn Maps. The Sanborn Map Company kept updating their maps every few years. In some cases, seven or eight different editions of the maps are available, showing both urban growth and even a limited amount of migration trend information. Sanborn maps are valuable historical tools for urban specialists, social historians, architects, geographers, genealogists, local historians, planners, environmentalists, and anyone who wants to learn about the history, growth, and development of American cities, towns, and neighborhoods. The Sanborn Map Company eventually was purchased by other companies and is now owned by Environmental Data Resources, Inc. You can still purchase copies of the maps directly from Environmental Data Resources at 1-800-352-0050 or at http://www.edrnet.com/. However, Environmental Data Resources' Web site only contains order forms, it does not contain images of the original maps. A new Web site recently appeared, called Digital Sanborn Maps. It was created from Bell & Howell Information and Learning's microfilm collection of 660,000 Sanborn Maps, which were filmed from the Library of Congress collection. The Library's Sanborn collection includes all maps submitted to the Library through copyright deposit and a set of maps transferred to the Library from the Bureau of the Census. Maps from the Bureau of the Census include corrections issued by the Sanborn Company that were pasted over the original map sheet. These maps are now being added to the commercial Web site in a project that should be completed by the end of August. This week I had a chance to try out the new Digital Sanborn Maps site and found that it is a great online resource. Remember that it is a commercial site. That is, you must pay to use it. Digital Sanborn Maps will include maps for all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. Keep in mind that not all states are online at this time, however. The digitization of all the Sanborn Fire Maps should be completed by the end of August. The Web site lists states in alphabetical order on a drop-down menu. For instance, I selected Utah, and then a new menu appeared, asking me to select a city or town. I selected Provo, and then a third pull-down menu appeared, asking which map I wanted to look at. The choices were Feb. 1888, Aug. 1890, Aug. 1900, Mar. 1908, Feb. 1925 and Feb. 1925-Apr. 1950. The months and years will vary from city to city, depending upon the dates that cartographers from the Sanborn Map Company visited the area. Continuing with my search, I selected February 1888. Four "thumbnail" size maps appeared, each showing different areas of Provo. Each one was much too small to read. I clicked on one at random, and a larger map appeared, although still very difficult to read. However, it had options to display larger and more detailed images. I kept clicking and clicking. Every time I did so the map "zoomed in" and a more detailed image appeared, always centered on the point that I had just clicked. Soon I was looking at a very detailed map of 7th or Center Street, lined with many merchants. I noticed the following listings: Clothing Store, 1st Telephone Exchange (keep in mind that this wasn't long after Alexander Graham Bell's invention), a dress shop, a tailor shop, a variety store (with an ash pit out back), a dentist, and more. Moving to side streets, I found many dwellings, barns and coal sheds, hay sheds, and water wells listed. I guess a fire insurance company was concerned about flammables, such as coal and hay, as well as the location of water wells. I saw a few names of buildings, such as the Excelsior Livery and the Proctor Academy. Of the maps of Provo that I looked at, only a few had the merchant's name, and none of the dwellings listed the names of the owners. I then switched to a 1948 map of Alameda, California. This later map showed quite a contrast: instead of the livery stables and coal bins of 1888 Provo, I was looking at a California city in the midst of creating an urban sprawl. The streets were no longer laid out in a grid fashion; residential neighborhoods often had curving or even oval streets. Alameda also had numerous housing projects. Still, the information displayed was similar: each building was labeled as to its purpose with a few showing company names. The maps are displayed in any regular Internet browser. The maps have been tested with both Internet Explorer and with Netscape. It should also work well in America Online and other browsers that are based upon Internet Explorer. There is no need for any other image-viewing program. If you wish to download a PDF version of your selected map sheet, simply click on the Download Map button and follow the menus. A PDF map will be displayed, and you can save that to your hard drive and print it later on your local printer. In order to view and print PDF maps, you will need to use Adobe Acrobat. This is a free program available for Windows, Macintosh, Linux and several versions of UNIX at: http://www.adobe.com Keep in mind that some of these maps are large and detailed. While they are always in black-and-white, many of the maps contain large images and may take a while to display if you are using a dial-up modem to access the Internet. I used a cable modem during my testing and found that most maps displayed within 2 or 3 seconds. A few of the largest ones required ten seconds. I suspect you will need to multiply those numbers by five or ten if you are using a dial-up connection. You are legally able to use these maps for your own personal use, such as viewing them for personal genealogy research. However, Bell & Howell Information and Learning's agreements with Environmental Data Resources, Inc. (EDR), the owners of the Sanborn Maps, gives limited rights which do not include reproduction of images outside of Digital Sanborn Maps. Accordingly, you must obtain permission from both Bell & Howell and EDR before you may use these images in books or in magazine articles. Access to the Digital Sanborn Maps is on a subscription basis. In fact, access is quite expensive, and I suspect that only a very few private individuals will ever obtain their own subscriptions. The Digital Sanborn Maps are also just one of many research tools available at the site. Most of the subscribers to Bell & Howell Information and Learning's online Web site are libraries and research institutions. Perhaps a few well-funded genealogy societies will obtain access to these maps, but I suspect that most researchers will obtain access at a large city library or at a university library. The Web site does not give pricing information. Instead, you can send an e-mail asking for a price quote to match the services that your organization needs to access. While you cannot access the maps without a subscription, you can obtain information about the Digital Sanborn Maps and also an e- mail address for pricing information at: http://sanborn.umi.com The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 2001 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Robert, I tried clicking on the link you provided for the roster of Cleveland's men, but got "Page Not Found" error. Any suggestions? Am really anxious to see it. Thanks for letting us know about it! Mary Looney Dallas, Texas

I have posted requests for info on the members of Cleveland's Cavalry Company too this list in the past. I had much help provided by the members of this list and would like to share a link with them. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wb4kdi/Family%20History/Rivers/Joel%2 0Mason%20Miller.htm This is an interesting page, regarding Joel Rivers, of this company. It includes some of his war-time letters while he was serving in this company. He mentions several of his compatriots by name and I just thought some of y'all may like to take a look at it. Also if there is anyone new to this list who may have information regarding this unit or some of it's members, please contact me. -Robert McMillan

Hi Janis! Yes, thank you so much! I'd love to have the transcription of the 1860 Census for John and Sarah Daniel. Every piece of documentation is precious and I don't have easy access to that census record. Nelda marnel@ellijay.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <janisg@juno.com> To: <ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:29 PM Subject: Daniels in Clarke Co. > Hello Nelda and C.B. I thought I would jump in here concerning the > Daniels family. I have a transcription that I did many years ago of John > and Sarah Daniels and seven children on the 1860 census. I also have a > transcription for Levin and Elizabeth Daniel and their six children. I > did not find where I did one for WIlliam J. and Nancy, but I may have > missed them, or misplaced the transcription. If either of you are > interested, let me know and I will type up the transcriptions and send > them by e-mail. > > As far as I know the folks listed above are not my Daniels. I have > Joseph Daniels b. 1797 in GA, d. 1858, who married (1) Huldah Elvira > Mahetabel McCollom and (2) Emily Brooks. He had about twelve children > between the two wives. I think he lived in Barbour Co. AL and Clarke Co. > MS, although later descendants lived in Choctaw Co. AL. > > Best wishes on your search! > > Janis > > ______________________________ >

It has been a while since I posted so here goes. Hope this is not too lengthy. Who were Allen Tucker's ancestors and from where did they come? ALLEN TUCKER was born 1765 somewhere (we believe) in Virginia, maybe Amelia County where there were a large clan of Tuckers. He made his will 11/2/1841 and died 11/3/1841 in Marengo County Alabama where the will was probated in January 1842. He signed his will with an "X" and had owned about 120 acres of land in Marengo County Alabama. He owned about 100 acres+ in Marengo Co. His eldest son, Truhart, was born in Henrico County Virginia in or near Richmond on May 18, 1788. About 25 miles North of Williamsburg there is a small community by the name of Truhart. While researching in "the Valentine Papers" I found several Truharts in the same area between Richmond and Williamsburg. George W. Truhart was there in 1699 and Aaron Truhart was there in 1744. It may be a good bet that Truhart Tucker got his given name from his mother's maiden name or from a close friendship of the two families. Allen Tucker had left Virginia by 1796 and shows up in the Georgia 1796 Wilkes County Tax R! ecords and in the 1798 Geogia Tax Digest in Oglethorpe County. Truhart Tucker had two brothers, James Wilson, born in Greene County Georgia (1/6/1799-7/22/1859), and John G., born in Greene County Georgia in 1811 and died after 1860. Although it was not confirmed until December 1992, the weight of evidence strongly indicated that Truhart was a brother to the proven sons of Allen Tucker. James Wilson Tucker, a son of Allen, had a daughter, Kitty (Tucker) Skinner of Heiberger Alabama. Kitty had a great nephew named Preston Tucker that I worked with in Fayette Alabama. Preston told me that his aunt Kitty had mentioned an uncle Truhart. After considering this and a lot of other evidence I was reasonably sure that Allen Tucker was my great great great great grandfather. A trip to the Marengo County Courthouse in Linden Alabama on December 28, 1992 resulted in finding documents that confirmed Truhart to be a son of Allen Tucker. Probate minutes of the 1841 November term page 217 say that James W. Tucker made application for probate of Allen Tucker estate and that citation be issued to Truhart Tucker, John G. Tucker, Joshua Wade (husband of Allen's daughter Nancy) and William H. Perkins with wife Martha (anothe! r daughter of Allen) to be in court on December 13 and show just cause why the will should not be probated. The 1841 December term pages 248 and 255 certifies the will and records the appointment of James W. Tucker as executor. After 25 years of searching I was finally certain that Allen Tucker was my great great great great grandfather. We don't know how or why Allen went to Georgia but there are some historical facts that probably had a significant bearing on his actions. There was cheap land in the Georgia frontier lands and room to grow. The first settlers came to Wilkes County in the latter part of 1773. These lands were ceded by the Cherokee and Creek Indians in 1773. This ceding of this territory by the Indians removed a tremendous barrier to the settlement of this part of the new world. The Indians were very fierce and considered blood thirsty by white man's standards. These lands were called the "New Purchase" or sometimes the "Ceded Lands." This area extended between the Savannah and Ogeechee Rivers and was bounded by the Little River and Williams Creek. This included all of present counties of Wilkes, Elbert, Lincoln and Oglethorpe with parts Of Greene, Warren, Taliaferro and Madison (subsequently formed from Elbert). Traders were an important part of frontier life in these early days. They brought essential supplies to settlers at no small risk to themselves. Many times the traders lost their goods to Indian attack or simply were not paid because of the lack of hard money. Governor Wright was ordered by the Crown to use the proceeds from the sale of the lands to pay the traders. On June 11, 1774 he issued a proclamation that he was going to have the lands surveyed and parcel it out in 100 to 1000 acre tracts. Parcels of 100 acres would be sold to heads of families, 50 more for each child and his wife, 500 more for each slave owned, 50 more for each able bodied white male servant he could bring and 25 more for each 15 to 40 year old woman servant. Not more than a shilling per acre would be charged and 5 pounds would be charged as entrance money for 5 acres. We assume that Allen Tucker came from Virginia because his first son was born there. I have found no records of Allen anywhere but in Georgia and Alabama. There was an Allen Tucker recorded in the 1800 census in Chathom County NC. He was listed as between 16 & 26 yrs of age with a wife of the same age and a male child 0-10 yrs and one slave. This NC Allen would have been about 10 years too young and Truehart would have been 12 yrs old. The following are the earliest records I find of Allen & family: GEORGIA TAX INDEX 1796 Allen Tucker Wilkes County Capt. Wm. Ashmore Dist. 1798 Allen Tucker page 011 Oglethorpe County Stewart District 1801 Allen Tucker page 031 Greene County Tuggle District 1805 Allen Tucker page 036 Greene County Cabanis District 1809 Allen Tucker page 039 Greene County Myrick District 1815 Allen Tucker page 028 Greene County Samuel Edmonson District 1815 Truhart Tucker page 029 Greene County ditto (left for Al. Shortly after) GEORGIA CENSUS RECORDS 1820 Allen Tucker page 242 Greene County Rankin District (Truhart had left Al.) 1820 Josua Wade page 241 Greene County Rankin District (Allen's son-in- law, married Nancy Tucker 2/2/1820) 1830 Josua Wade page 241 Greene County Rankin District (Allen is in this household, he had apparently lost his wife) 1840 Allen nor Josua are in Georgia-----They are found in Marengo Co. Al. Census. (Allen is found in Truhart's household. He died in son's, J.W. Tucker's, house November 3, 1841) Truhart Tucker was born in Henrico County Virginia (5/18/1788-10/8/1856). It has been said that his full name was Christopher Columbus Truhart Tucker. He married Judith Hall, who was also born in Henrico County Virginia (1787-3/2/1855). They were married in Greene County Georgia 4/10/1808 and had nine children. Richard H. (1809-1882), David L. (1812-1896), and (Buck) William H. (10/7/1814-5/10/1886) were born in Greene County Georgia. Francis Jane was born in Clarke County Alabama, probably Suggsville, in 1818. Mary Ann (8/31/1823-8/11/1912) was born near Clifton in Wilcox County Alabama. The others were born in Marengo County Alabama at Shiloh and were; Jeremiah L: (1826-1864), Lemuel T. (1829-1880+), Amanda A. (9/5/1830-12/23/1904), and Judith Ann (1831-1853). Truhart was my great, great great grandfather. He and his wife Judith were baptized at the Baptist Church of Christ, Bethesda, near present Union Point, Georgia by rev. Jesse Mercer. This church was organized in 1785! and f! irst known as Whatley's Mill Church. Truhart left Greene County Georgia about 1815 after he was counted in the census on page 029 above. Truhart first shows up in Alabama around Suggsville in Clarke County Alabama where he signed a petition with a group of citizens in 1818. Suggsville is about 10 miles southeast of Grove Hill Alabama. Truhart Tucker must have been well educated for the times. He was appointed Justice of the Peace for Clarke County in 1821. He resigned his commission in 1823 and moved to Wilcox County near Clifton where he was licensed to preach in August that same year. His ordination took place at Shiloh Baptist Church in Marengo County, Alabama in November of 1823. His credentials for the ministry were signed by elders Solomon Perkins and William Fluker in January 1824. Truhart and his family made their home at Shiloh. From that time he pastored and cofounded several churches; was a circuit rider preacher for various churches in Clarke, Marengo, and Wilcox Counties.

Hello Nelda and C.B. I thought I would jump in here concerning the Daniels family. I have a transcription that I did many years ago of John and Sarah Daniels and seven children on the 1860 census. I also have a transcription for Levin and Elizabeth Daniel and their six children. I did not find where I did one for WIlliam J. and Nancy, but I may have missed them, or misplaced the transcription. If either of you are interested, let me know and I will type up the transcriptions and send them by e-mail. As far as I know the folks listed above are not my Daniels. I have Joseph Daniels b. 1797 in GA, d. 1858, who married (1) Huldah Elvira Mahetabel McCollom and (2) Emily Brooks. He had about twelve children between the two wives. I think he lived in Barbour Co. AL and Clarke Co. MS, although later descendants lived in Choctaw Co. AL. Best wishes on your search! Janis

You're all invited to an Alabama Genealogy Chat (all counties) on Monday night: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm 9 pm Eastern; 8 pm Central; 7 pm Mt.; 6 pm Pacific This is a good opportunity to talk to others researching around the state, share resources and ideas, and make connections. Previous chat transcripts can be found at http://huntsville.about.com/library/blalchat.htm If you've never been in a chat room before and need instructions just let me know and I'll send step-by-step details. If you'd like to receive notice of future Alabama chats or transcripts, send me an email. Good luck in your search! Jean Brandau huntsville2@home.com

The AlaBenton Genealogical Society would like to announce an upcoming Genealogical Seminar on 4 August 2001 to be held in the Ayers Room of the Anniston Calhoun County Library. The Guest Speaker will be Bob Davis of Wallace State. Complete details will be posted within the next two weeks or visit our web site for the most current details. http://www.crosswinds.net/~tracks/seminar.htm

Hi! If this is William Jasper Daniel, son of John Daniel and Sarah Moncrief, then he was brother to my g-g-grandmother, Alabama Eugenia "Allie" Daniel Overton. I don't have a copy of or access to a copy of the 1860 census or I would gladly do a look-up for you. What I'm wondering is if you have any information on John Daniel? All I have is that he was born January 18, 1804, in VA and died September 1880 in Clarke Co., AL. Also, if you don't mind sharing, I'd be interested in knowing more about William Jasper Daniel and his descendants also, since, if it's the same person, they would be my cousins. Thanks, Nelda G. Spires marnel@ellijay.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Docjones35 <cjones5@cfl.rr.com> To: <ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:11 AM Subject: 1860 Clarke Census > Would someone be kind enough to look up William J. Daniel (wife is Nancy Angeline) in the 1860 census. Any information will be more than welcome. Thank you very much. C B Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com >

Would someone be kind enough to look up William J. Daniel (wife is Nancy Angeline) in the 1860 census. Any information will be more than welcome. Thank you very much. C B Jones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com

TO all, I'm interested in any and all THORNHILL's in Clarke Co, AL. I'm looking for THORNHILL's related to THORNHILL's from Mississippi. If you can help please e-mail me. thanks, Debbie

Hi Everybody, My name is Arthur CHITTENDEN and I am working on a one-name study - worldwide. Any information, no matter how brief, will be greatly appreciated. I shall be happy to assist other CHITTENDEN seekers by doing lookups and where possible putting them in contact with other researchers of our name. Best Wishes Arthur Sydney Australia.

In the State Archives there is a list of early churches with names of the members and notes on many people. I have not seen it, but have been wanting to see a copy of those notes for years. (I am interested in the Gainstown Methodist Church, Marvin Chapel in Barlow Bend and the Suggsville Church.) I live in California, so it's not going to be easy. It would be great if someone in Alabama could get it and post it to the whole list!!! Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassandra Davis To: ALCLARKE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 5/17/2001 3:11:50 PM Subject: Phillips Chapel Does anyone have any information on Phillips Chapel AME Church in Thomasville? I found a reference to the Church in the time frame 1900-1923. Does an history of churches of the area exist? Thanks in advance.

Does anyone have any information on Phillips Chapel AME Church in Thomasville? I found a reference to the Church in the time frame 1900-1923. Does an history of churches of the area exist? Thanks in advance. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi Reinhold Dietz of Houston, TX: You wrote the following: >> would appreciate anything you could find on my grandmother, Martha (Mattie) Berniece Williamson, b. ?, d. ? She was married to Frank Woodard Pugh, born abt 1880. I would like to find information on her parents if at all possible<< I am currently signed off the Clarke County List as I am leaving for Italy and will not return to the list until July...BUT took a quick look at what I transcribed from the Clarke County Journal newspapers for 1862 - 1866 and found references to the surnames WILLIAMSON and PUGH as follows: In the Nov. 13, 1862 edition of the Clarke County Journal: Mrs. M. R. Pugh will please accept our thanks for a couple of overgrown Yam potatoes. We will resume the further discussion of their merits this evening or early in the day tomorrow. The Baptist Church at this place has selected Rev. John Talbert as its pastor for the ensuing year. The dry weather of the last few weeks has greatly facilitated the manufacture of salt in our County - - causing perhaps a slight reduction in the price of the article. During last week prices ranged from $13 to $20 per bushel. In the Oct. 15, 1863 edition of the Clarke County Journal mention of a WILLIAMSON as follows: Lieut. James M. Davis of Cleveland's Cavalry, places us under obligations for a late Mobile paper. Mr. Wm. S. Williamson makes us a present of several fine peaches, for which we return our thanks. The average price of salt at the works in this county has been $25 per bushel for sometime past. Many suppose it will go up in a short time — though, as of this, every one must be his own judge. Hope this information opens a few doors for you. Ciao, Nancy G.

Hi Everybody, My name is Arthur CHITTENDEN, and I am working on a one-name study - worldwide. Any information, no matter how brief, will be greatly appreciated. I shall be happy to assist other CHITTENDEN seekers by doing lookups and where possible putting them in contact with other researchers of our name. Best Wishes Arthur Sydney Australia.

PATTI, I noticed you had Wilkinsons. My 2nd ggrandmother was Nancy Wilksinon b. 1817 AL src: 1850 AL census. She m. Harmon Smith 1836 in Wilcox Co. AL who was b. 1811 GA src: 1850 AL census. Their daughter Margaret L. Smith b. 1845 Bashi AL (I have a small Bible of hers) d. 1902 Nicholsville AL buried Bashi AL. Do you have any info on these Wilkinsons? Thanks in advance for any help. Carolyn Luker Atlanta GA cluker@prodigy.net

Hi Claris, I am a descendent of the Hearin family that Will White married into, so I have more information on Nancy Morris if you want it. I sent all the information on their descendants. It is missing a lot of information. If you can add to what I sent, I would really appreciate it. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Claris Schofield To: levar@earthlink.net Sent: 5/7/2001 11:32:31 PM Subject: RE: White Patti, Sid White, my grandfather, and Will White were brothers. How are you related? I have information on the Whites, Drews and Hendersons if thats your line. Claris

Hi Patti, Thank you so much. but I could not find a connection on my Wilkerson/Wikinson family.. I will be glad to keep your information with mine and send you any information that I come across on your family. In appreciation. Nancy