Laura, >From CEMETERIES OF CHILTON, compiled by Chilton County Historical Society and edited by Benjamin D. Roberts, in Martin Memorial Cemetery, located N of Clanton, I found the following: DIEFENDERFER, Maude K. 1888 1967 This is the only person by that surname in the book. Irma J. Roy At 11:48 PM 10/11/00 EDT, you wrote: >Does anyone know of a Diffenderfer family who were living near Clanton in the >1920s-1930s? I am trying to locate descendants of Maud Diffenderfer (Mrs. >D.L. Pitner), b. PA, 1875; Herbert Diffenderfer, b. NE, 1880; and Clifford >Lester Diffenderfer, b. 1889 or 1890, NE. Thanks in advance. Laura in NC >LWA101@aol.com > >

Does anyone know of a Diffenderfer family who were living near Clanton in the 1920s-1930s? I am trying to locate descendants of Maud Diffenderfer (Mrs. D.L. Pitner), b. PA, 1875; Herbert Diffenderfer, b. NE, 1880; and Clifford Lester Diffenderfer, b. 1889 or 1890, NE. Thanks in advance. Laura in NC LWA101@aol.com

Thanks Betty and to all the other kind folks who provided me with the information on Concordia Cemetary and my grandfather and beloved aunts. Hal

The following Sewells are listed in the index of CEMETERIES OF CHILTON: Name - page - name of cemetery Infant Sewell 448 Antioch Methodist Infant Sewell 448 Antioch Methodist Infant Sewell 266 Pleasant Grove A.H. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Amanda Sewell 480 Stanton Annie Sewell 285 Pleasant Grove # 2 Bessie Mae Sewell 447 Antioch Methodist Cecil O. Sewell, Sr. 137 Chilton Memorial Gardens Denson Sewell 285 Pleasant Grove # 2 E. Foster Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Edna Sewell 270 Pleasant Grove Eliza W. Sewell 504 New Prospect/Old Union Emma D. Sewell 16 Providence Emmett B. Sewell 504 New Prospect/Old Union Eugemin M. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Euna J. Sewell 137 Chilton Memorial Gardens Fay Sewell 288 Pleasant Grove # 2 G.W. Sewell (Jim) 288 Pleasant Grove # 2 George G. Sewell 288 Pleasant Grove # 2 George Irby Sewell 285 Pleasant Grove # 2 Gladis Sewell 496 Cox Chapel Gladys M. Sewell 137 Chilton Memorial Gardens Grady W. Sewell 264 Pate's Chapel H.L. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Homer S. Sewell 256 Mt. Carmel Baptist J.D. Sewell 447 Antioch Methodist Jennie Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist John T. Sewell 477 Stanton Lee Sewell 270 Pleasant Grove Lillie B. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Lucy L. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Malcolm V. Sewell 195 Liberty Hill Manie C. Sewell 480 Stanton Martha S. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist Minnie Lillian Sewell 477 Antioch Methodist Odell Sewell 287 Pleasant Grove # 2 Odis Sewell 137 Chilton Memorial Gardens Oscar Sewell 447 Antioch Methodist Pearl M. Sewell 256 Mt. Carmel Baptist Roberts Sewell 209 Martin Memorial William J. Sewell 446 Antioch Methodist - b. 29 Feb 1882 d. 19 Jul 1937 As you see, the above William J. is the only name that fits the ones you listed. If there are any dates on the above names or cemetery locations, let me know. I will try to help. You may contact me personally at the address below. Betty Collins EHGCollins@aol.com

Thank you. I am looking for William Sewell family. William Sewell was married to Camilla Spivey. They are in the 1900 census. He had several children. They had several children and the one that I am interested in is Freeman Sewell he married Miss Hattie Pierce in April 1909. Freeman was 19 years old in the 1910 census. I could not find William or Camilla I assumed they had past away and I needed to find the cemetery. I really appreciate this. William is my gr grandfather. His daughter Myrtle Sewell (First married Tom Horne had a daughter with him) second marriage to my grandfather Flem Lester Martin. Thank You Beverly Flores BevDive2@aol.com

Hal, That cemetery is listed as Thorsby Scandinavian in CEMETERIES OF CHILTON, compiled by Chilton County Historical Society & Archives, Inc. I find listed: On one stone GRENN, Kari GRENN, Tilda GRENN, Marie There are no dates for these three GRAVES, Marie 1869 1967 GRENN, John Samuel 1875 1954 On one stone CARLSON, Conrad CARLSON, Anna CARLSON, Robert There are no dates for these three Hope this helps, Irma J. Roy At 08:22 PM 10/10/00 EDT, you wrote: >Does Concordia Cemetary still exist in Thorsby? If so, does anyone know >where records might be stored for ancestors buried there? I believe that my >grandfather and two aunts are buried there. Their names are Samuel Grenn, >Anna Carlson, and Marie Graves. > >Hal Olson >Aurora CO > >

I understand CEMETERIES OF CHILTON is now out of print, but am not sure of this. What Sewell do you need and I will check my copy. Betty Collins EHGCollins@aol.com

Where can we pick up the cemetery listing book for Chilton County? I am interested in finding SEWELL's Thank You Beverly Flores BevDive2@aol.com

The Concordia Cemetery is also known as Thorsby Scandinavian Cemetery. There is a John Samuel Grenn (1875-1974) and Marie Graves (1869-1967). Anna, Conrad and Robert Carlson are named on one stone, but there appears to be no dates. The information is taken from CEMETERIES OF CHILTON [AL], p. 250. This book was published by the Chilton County Historical Society and edited by Benjamin D. Roberts. Betty Collins EHGCollins@aol.com

A list-member on the Southern Trails list circulated this message about these lists that might prove useful. Pat, in Texas >> There are now e-mail lists for requesting census lookups in every state. > To join replace the "XX" in the links below with your states > abbreviations.For example Georgia would be > GA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > To subscribe, send a message to > (XX=your state abbreviation) > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com << >

Does Concordia Cemetary still exist in Thorsby? If so, does anyone know where records might be stored for ancestors buried there? I believe that my grandfather and two aunts are buried there. Their names are Samuel Grenn, Anna Carlson, and Marie Graves. Hal Olson Aurora CO

Mike: Thank you very much for that detailed explanation of what tends to become a very confusing matter when researching my 3+ family lines from there. They lived near each other, but of course, were "down the road", so tended to put each in different counties. A map would be very helpful. Could you let me know what I need to do to get it? Thanks again--- Leslie Hill

Autauga County. See text below. Do you want a map showing old and new county borders? Guidelines to Determine if Your Chilton County Property Used to be in Autauga, Bibb, Perry, or Shelby County Prior to 1868 By: Mike Jackson Did you know that some Alabama counties are older than the State of Alabama? Did you know that Chilton County is one of the newest counties in the state? Both are facts! Autauga, Bibb, and Shelby counties existed when Alabama was a territory and therefore pre-dated the existence of the State of Alabama in 1819. Chilton County was created in 1868, during the Reconstruction period following the War of the Rebellion (Civil War). Only 2 or 3 Alabama counties are newer. Chilton County was originally named Baker County. The name was changed to Chilton in 1870. Chilton County was created by combining portions of Autauga, Bibb, Perry, and Shelby counties. I have heard a number of reasons for the creation of Chilton County. First, travel was difficult, and many areas of present-day Chilton County were quite some distance by horse and buggy from county seats Kingston (in 1868 was the Autauga County seat of government), Columbiana (Shelby County), Centerville (Bibb County), and Marion (Perry County). Therefore, Baker County was created to reduce the travel difficulty for citizens living in "remote" areas. The other reason I have heard is that Alfred Baker, the man most responsible for the creation of Baker County and the man the county was originally named after, expected much civil unrest following the Civil War including much difficulty in local government administration of the new Freedman legislation intended to provide for the freed slaves. Baker lived in Autauga County at the time, which was dominated by the Planter Aristocracy that had developed in the plantation society along the Alabama River. Baker purportedly wanted a new county free of the planter mentality and with less turmoil adjusting from the "plantation society" following the war than would be the case if remaining a part of Autauga County. Regardless of the reasons for the creation of Chilton County, it is interesting to know where the old county borders used to be and which sections of Chilton County were once in the "old" counties of Autauga, Bibb, Perry, and Shelby. This article makes an attempt to draw the old county borders superimposed on a modern map of Chilton County. With this map you may find the general area of your property and see in which of the old counties your property used to be located. PUT MAP HERE The map above was developed by careful comparison and scaling of old and new maps of Alabama, using county borders, towns, and natural land features such as creeks for comparative reference points. For old maps I used 1850 and 1863 Alabama maps showing counties and their borders. For new maps I used the Alabama Atlas and Gazetteer, published by DeLorme Mapping. My findings were then superimposed on a modern-day detailed Chilton County map as can be obtained from the Alabama Department of Transportation or the County Engineer's Office. Here are some of interesting findings that can be seen in the above map: The old border of Autauga and Shelby counties was an east-west line running just south of Lomax. Thus, Clanton, Verbena, Coopers, etc. and all of the southeast section of the county were in Autauga County prior to 1868. The old border between Bibb County on the west and Shelby and Autauga County on the east was a north-south running line just barely west of Thorsby. Thus, Thorsby, Union Grove, Lomax, the old Jumbo Community, all of the northeast section of the county and all along the northern border of the county were in Shelby county. A small section of Chilton County comprised of what is today part of the Talladega National Forest was in Perry County. I have been told by a researcher that this was done to appease a large property owner who had a history of heated debates each year with the Perry County authorities over his $40 tax bill! Perry County apparently wanted to give this unruly citizen to somebody else to deal with! This section is very sparsely populated today. A large section of the county used to be in Bibb County. This section includes present-day Jemison, Maplesville, Pletcher, etc., and runs almost the full north-south extent of present-day Chilton County. By the way, the center of the State of Alabama in 1868, which today is in Chilton County, used to be in Bibb County! This location is the general area bounded roughly by the triangle formed by Pletcher Community, Mills Cemetery, and Vermont Church. The map above is of practical value, some would say, as well as general interest. If you are involved in genealogical research to explore your family history, you may need to visit the Autauga, Bibb, Perry, or Shelby County courthouse to get records you need dated prior to 1868! I would like to close by issuing a challenge. I challenge the Chilton County Engineer's Office to create and publish an "official" map showing the old county borders within Chilton County. The map I have developed is a rough approximation only and could depict the old borders misplaced somewhat. It would be nice to have an official, very accurate map as a reference. Mike Jackson, 13122 Dogwood Blossom Trail, Houston, TX 77065. Thanks, Mike Jackson, cell phone 415-609-9100, fax 419-818-8213, mailto:mljackso@bechtel.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dddennis@concentric.net [SMTP:dddennis@concentric.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:48 PM > To: ALCHILTO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Clanton > > Autauga Co., Chestnut Creek on the census. The area just south of Jemison > would have been in Shelby and Baker/Chilton. > See http://www.rootsweb.com/~alchilto/chilmap.htm > At 10:16 PM 10/8/00 EDT, you wrote: > >Could someone let me know what county the town of Clanton would have been > in, > >in 1856? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Leslie Hill > > > > > > > David Dennis, dddennis@concentric.net, UsGebWeb webpage for Lincoln Co., > Ga + Chilton Co., Al, and Rootsweb mailing list owner for them and the > SWORDS-L lists, among other things.

Hi. There is a Yellow Leaf Creek in Chilton Co. and another in Shelby spelled Yellowleaf. I've never heard the one in Chilton refered to as Lower Yellow Leaf. It goes under I-65 just north of the rest area I think and empties into the Coosa R. just south of Lay Dam. At 12:47 AM 10/9/00 EDT, you wrote: >Hi, > >I know Yellow Leaf Creek, runs into the Coosa River, where the Alabama Power >steam plant is at Wilsonville, Alabama. Is Lower Yellow Leaf Creek, in >Chilton County? Does I-65 cross over it? Where? > >Thanks, > >Peg > > > David Dennis, dddennis@concentric.net, UsGebWeb webpage for Lincoln Co., Ga + Chilton Co., Al, and Rootsweb mailing list owner for them and the SWORDS-L lists, among other things.

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> Clanton is in Chilton Co. It was originally Baker Co., but changed to Chilton > Co in the 1870s. > Sylvia Bernard > Baker/Chilton County was not created until about 1868. Before that it would have been about the Autauga and Shelby county boundary. For folks who lived in Clanton area in 1850s check both Autauga and Shelby County records. John

Hi, Leslie, Clanton was in Autauga County in 1856. However, if they lived North of town and you don't find them, try Shelby County. The Shelby County and Autauga line was somewhere around Clanton. I don't have a precise map at that time. I know Coopers which is 5 miles South of Clanton was in Autauga because that is where my ancestors settled. Irma J. Roy At 10:16 PM 10/8/00 EDT, you wrote: >Could someone let me know what county the town of Clanton would have been in, >in 1856? > >Thanks, > >Leslie Hill > >

Autauga Co., Chestnut Creek on the census. The area just south of Jemison would have been in Shelby and Baker/Chilton. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~alchilto/chilmap.htm At 10:16 PM 10/8/00 EDT, you wrote: >Could someone let me know what county the town of Clanton would have been in, >in 1856? > >Thanks, > >Leslie Hill > > > David Dennis, dddennis@concentric.net, UsGebWeb webpage for Lincoln Co., Ga + Chilton Co., Al, and Rootsweb mailing list owner for them and the SWORDS-L lists, among other things.

Hi, I know Yellow Leaf Creek, runs into the Coosa River, where the Alabama Power steam plant is at Wilsonville, Alabama. Is Lower Yellow Leaf Creek, in Chilton County? Does I-65 cross over it? Where? Thanks, Peg

Thanks Sylvia--they are telling me that before that, it was in Autauga Co. Appreciate it-- Leslie Hill