The 1835 census you cite was for Cherokee County NC and Tusquitee is in NC. This discussion list is for Cherokee County AL. Les Tate On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:00 AM, alcherok-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John Williams 1835; John Large of Tusquitee (Shana Williams) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:58:56 -0500 > From: "Shana Williams" <swilliams@circlesofcare.org> > Subject: [ALCHEROK] John Williams 1835; John Large of Tusquitee > To: <ALCHEROK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <E46316CEF76DD949A0217C1D56D2970C01BB1258@corp2k.circlesofcare.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think I may have found a relative on the list of "Indians, > halfbreeds, quarters, and Intermarried" list for Cherokee county > 1835, i.e. John Williams of Valley River with 6 members in the > family. Does anyone have any more information on this family? Is > this the Indian Trader? Would "Valley River" be "New River" or > something else? > > Also, I believe another relative, John Large, may have been a signer > on a Cherokee government document of 1865 that was trying to set up > the newly formed government as a "republic". I found a census that > says he was in Tusquitee, but can find nothing more to help > establish that I have my John Large and not any other, say a middle > initial or spouses name. > > Any help would be appreciated? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ALCHEROK list administrator, send an email to > ALCHEROK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ALCHEROK mailing list, send an email to ALCHEROK@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ALCHEROK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5 > ************************************** >

I think I may have found a relative on the list of "Indians, halfbreeds, quarters, and Intermarried" list for Cherokee county 1835, i.e. John Williams of Valley River with 6 members in the family. Does anyone have any more information on this family? Is this the Indian Trader? Would "Valley River" be "New River" or something else? Also, I believe another relative, John Large, may have been a signer on a Cherokee government document of 1865 that was trying to set up the newly formed government as a "republic". I found a census that says he was in Tusquitee, but can find nothing more to help establish that I have my John Large and not any other, say a middle initial or spouses name. Any help would be appreciated?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audit198 Surnames: Dawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2685/mb.ashx Message Board Post: He might be Cherokee blood, (mother side) from family reports, and he was a blacksmith. His parents born in Ga, but no county and we have hit absolute brick wall except the possibility of brother Henry Franklin Dawson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnneSONeal Surnames: Tracy, Loyd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2674.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Richard Fleming, Gilbert (Bird) Tracy was not a brother to William Bird Tracy, b. 5 Jul 1858. At least, I did not find him with the family in any census. I did find Gilbert and Mary J Tracy in the census with the Brewer children. Do you know of any descendants of this Martha Elizabeth Tracy Loyd and her husband, David M. Loyd? William Bird Tracy is buried in the Cannon Cemetery between Blanche and Jamestown, AL. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barjomor Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/466.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! You are right. Leamon Jesse Lawson B: 13 Sept 1854 and D: 28 May 1910 DeKlab Co., Alab., was first married to Martha Ann Wilder and had six children by her. My grandfather John Willis Lawson was their oldest child, Born in 1874 in Alabama. After Martha's death Leamon did marry Rebecca and had one daughter Eunice. Leamon's Father was John D. Lawson and his wife was Harriet Poole.I would be glad to exchange info on the Lawson's. I have not been able to find anything else on Martha or Harriet at this time. Please keep in touch we are related. Jo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skwarden Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/466.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe that Leamon Lawson is also the same person who was married to Rebecca Woodson. Together they had a daughter named Eunice Lucky Lawson. Lucky was my great grandmother; she married Curtis Jones and they adopted my grandfather when he about 4 or 5 years old. If you have anymore info. on the Lawson's I would love to hear it. All I know about them is what my great grandmother had written in a book that says they lived in Grover, which is located near Menlo, GA. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wes0125 Surnames: McNeu; McNew Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2684/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1880 Cherokee Cty Census as below: Year: 1880 State: Alabama County: Cherokee ED: 17 Stamped No: 265B Reel No: T9-6 Division: Township 7 of Range 11 SD: 1 Page No: 20. There is a Sarah A. McNeu listed on line 17. Does anyone have any info for her? Could she be Sarah Ann Mathilda C. McNew? Please contact me if you have any info. This might be my great grandmother that has been a dead end for years. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgayers Surnames: Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2683/mb.ashx Message Board Post: =============================================== The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce the completion of the following census transcription: 1880 Cherokee County, ED 17 http://usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/al/cherokee/1880/ed17/ Abstracted by James H. Henderson Second Transcriber Needed [For more information on Cherokee County, Alabama Please visit the ALGenWeb page at http://www.usgenweb.org/al] Sincerely, Christine Graham Webmaster, USGenWeb Census Project http://usgwcensus.org/states/ =============================================== http://usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/nu/index.htm =============================================== USGenWeb Search Us - UsGenWeb Census Projects http://www.usgenweb-search.us/census/index.html =============================================== Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelarussellnichols Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2682/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I met Rachel, 34 y-o, this summer in Centre and she has since moved out of the area with no forwarding info. If anyone has any information I really appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgayers Surnames: Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2681/mb.ashx Message Board Post: =============================================== The USGenWeb Census Project is pleased to announce the completion of the following census transcription: 1880 Cherokee County, ED 16 http://www.usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/al/cherokee/1880/ed16/ Abstracted by James H. Henderson Second Transcriber Needed [For more information on Cherokee County, Alabama Please visit the ALGenWeb page at http://www.usgenweb.org/al] Sincerely, Christine Graham Webmaster, USGenWeb Census Project http://usgwcensus.org/states/ =============================================== http://usgwcensus.org/cenfiles/nu/index.htm =============================================== USGenWeb Search Us - UsGenWeb Census Projects http://www.usgenweb-search.us/census/index.html =============================================== Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: reedfleming2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2672.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: if you can connect the dots two or three generations back to early 1840's you'll find Leaths also spelled Leeth were among the first to come after the Indian removal and that they came out of Jefferson Co Tn possibly due to land grants given for War of 1812 service in particular The Creek Indian Wars Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: reedfleming2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2674.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see your other post that you are looking for William Tracy, this has been a real puzzle. Especially the first name Bird. My grandfather was Bird Fleming and no relation to the Tracy's except through his wife, my grandmother, who was a Wood. No one ever knew why he was named Bird and we just assumed it must have been a connection to Bird Tracy who we call Gilbert. Two strange things with this. 1 Gilbert (Bird) Tracy could possibly be a brother to William but how did he get the name Bird? 2 My grandfather Bird was born at Jamestown 1893 and the family migrated down to Taff and Round Mountain. Both places no longer exist. Round Mountain is under the lake and there is no evidence that the Taff community was ever there except for maps. There are at least two large old cemeteries at Jamestown. At what was Taff I know of two more from the era. One I think might be called Coffee/Garrett not to be confused with the Garrett Cemetery in Centre the other might be Daniel or Little Rive! r. On a side note when my grandfather was drafted into WW I the Selective Service changed his name to Bert saying Bird wasn't name Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: QuintonAnthony66 Surnames: Gossett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2680/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have a picture(s) of Ilar Gossett Anthony? If so, could you please email it/them to me. Would appreicate. My email is dolphin3@mound.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: caseymattox1 Surnames: Mattox, Campbell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2625.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William, I just saw this and am very grateful to you. Not sure how I missed it before. This indeed may be a very good lead. If you would email me off-line and let me know any sources or speculation you might have for this theory I'd appreciate it. Unless William & Moses' sister Mary Jane was much younger than them, it's unlikely that my Mary Jane is their sister as mine would have been born about 1851. But there are some interesting data points here. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Could you give me information on John Panther of Eastern Cherokee country and his family lineage. Can you tell me how the "French" family came into this line? Thank you. Shana Williams-Leary

Found on FamilySerarch Record Search: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordResults;searchType=standard;deathPlaceId=2308;surname=Hawkins;deathPlace=Cherokee%2C%20Alabama%2C%20United%20States;givenName=Charlie;deathYear=1941 Name: Charlie Hawkins Titles: Titles & Terms - Prefix(standardized): Death date: 04 Mar 1941 Death place: Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama Gender: Male Race or color (on document): White Race or color (expanded): White Age at death: 71y Estimated birth year: 1870 Birthdate: Birthplace: Alabama Marital status: Married Spouse's name: Addie Hawkins Spouse's titles: Spouse's Titles & Terms - Prefix(standardized): Father's name: Bill Hawkins Father's titles: Father's Titles & Terms - Prefix(standardized): Father's birthplace: Mother's name: Mary Jackson Mother's titles: Mother's Titles & Terms - Prefix(standardized): Mother's birthplace: Occupation: Farmer Street address: Residence: Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama Cemetery name: Cedar Bluff Burial place: Cedar Bluff, Alabama Burial date: 05 Mar 1941 Funeral home: Informant's name: Additional relatives: Film number: 1908599 Reference number: cn 5404 Collection: Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974 ---- "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: hamilton44 > Surnames: Hawkins > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2679/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for information on Charlie W Hawkins. He was married to Cynthia Malinda(Kinney)Hawkins. Malinda died Aug 9,1927.Buried in Lawrence Cemetary. Charlie then married Addie (Pirce) Hawkins about 1930/1. Addie had a son by the name Hoyt Pirce. Charlie died March 4,1941. He was buried at Cedar Bluff Methodist Cemetary. Charlie's father was William (Bill) Hawkins. His mother was Mary(Jackson)Hawkins. > > I am looking for someone that might have information about Charlie and Malinda (his first wife) raising a small baby girl named Mary Moon. They raised from starting about 1908/09. After her mother died.She was listed in the 1910 census of Cedar Bluff as adopted daughter. But she was never adopted. Don't know if she went by Hawkins or Moon growing up. Mary married about 1920/21 > at a early age of 12 or 13. This girl was my grandmother. She was the daughter of Joseph H.Moon. Wife was known as Eliza but I can't find a death for a Eliza Moon. If anyone reading this query might remember hearing anything about these people. OR if any kin folk would please email me direct. please contact me at lindsaybnc@bellsouth.net > Thanks > Carolyn > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hamilton44 Surnames: Hawkins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2679/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on Charlie W Hawkins. He was married to Cynthia Malinda(Kinney)Hawkins. Malinda died Aug 9,1927.Buried in Lawrence Cemetary. Charlie then married Addie (Pirce) Hawkins about 1930/1. Addie had a son by the name Hoyt Pirce. Charlie died March 4,1941. He was buried at Cedar Bluff Methodist Cemetary. Charlie's father was William (Bill) Hawkins. His mother was Mary(Jackson)Hawkins. I am looking for someone that might have information about Charlie and Malinda (his first wife) raising a small baby girl named Mary Moon. They raised from starting about 1908/09. After her mother died.She was listed in the 1910 census of Cedar Bluff as adopted daughter. But she was never adopted. Don't know if she went by Hawkins or Moon growing up. Mary married about 1920/21 at a early age of 12 or 13. This girl was my grandmother. She was the daughter of Joseph H.Moon. Wife was known as Eliza but I can't find a death for a Eliza Moon. If anyone reading this query might remember hearing anything about these people. OR if any kin folk would please email me direct. please contact me at lindsaybnc@bellsouth.net Thanks Carolyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patriciahunt53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/493.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2676.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this family. You need to supply DOB's birthplaces for all those listed. FYI - General Information - 1880 census Colorado was the only state admitted to the Union between 1870 and 1880, bringing the total to 38 states. Eight territories were enumerated: Arizona, Dakota, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Utah, Washington and Wyoming territories. Unorganized Alaska was enumerated, but the "Indian Territory" was not enumerated for non-Indians. Unlike any previous censuses, after microfilming, the original 1880 census schedules for several states were transferred from the National Archives to various state archives, state libraries, or universities libraries. Only the original 1880 schedules for Pennsylvania remain at the National Archives. Several originals were later transferred to the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution in Washington, D.C. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cwarrenrobertson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/349.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's me--Chris Robertson, that you met at Alpine Decoration. Did you get my email that I had finally picked my research back up? The biography is a one-pager from a collection of notable persons from Yell County, Arkansas. I can scan it into the computer and send it to you. I need a current email address, unless the one I have that you last sent is still good. Let me know. Chris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.