http://www.flickr.com/photos/chazzman34/3104631813/ the story of Kilby http://www.doc.state.al.us/facility.asp?id=13 this is about Kilby Prison http://www.blacksheepancestors.com/usa/alabama_kilby.shtml 1930 list of prisoners in Kilby http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/f-671.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Khare To: diamond6468@mindspring.com ; alcherok@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer An article in the Cherokee Advertiser, dated 9 May 1878, states: "In Jail-An Escaped Convict-On last Tuesday about 12 o'clock Mr. J.W. Coker, Jr. and Thomas Daniel brought to jail here a negro, an escaped convict, by the name of Warner Findley. The negro stated that he had formerly lived in Jacksonville, Calhoun county, Alabama; that he had been sentenced to the penitentiary from that place for stealing a watch. He and a number of other convicts were put to work on the South & North Railroad at Helena in February or March. About the 1st of May, he in company with eleven others, one black and ten whites, escaped from Helena. The negro states that the ten white men made a rush at the guards, three in number and overpowering them, captured their arms. One of the convicts by the name of James Smith shot one of the guards. The shot man is in a dangerous condition. The negro above mentioned was captured in the mountains in vicinity of Little River. John Long, who some time since, killed a man by the name of Taylor in DeKalb county, was and is the principal leader of the crowd. When the squad were going up the mountain, Long and Smith said they would die before they were captured, so the negro prisoner says. He also says that the squad are desperate men. The squad also said they would take up quarters on the Lookout Mountain, 20 miles from Chattanooga, where they were confident they could not be found. The negro further says that on Thursday night, instant, some of the crowd broke into a house about one mile from Attalla, in Etowah county and stole some bed quilts. The negro was captured about dark on last Monday evening. He was sentenced to the penitentiary for two and one-half years...." (Taken from Cruising Through the Coosa River News, Vol. I, pp. 72-73) Cheryl A. Brown -----Original Message----- From: Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: alcherok@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2010 10:35 am Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer Can you send that article link also ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: fostadoptmommy > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I was wrong.. I found another article regarding John Long's pardon and > also found out that John's middle initial is A. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ltate29 Surnames: Long, Blevins, Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Additional info: See pages 121-124 at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/fulton/walkerhistory/pg 101-200red.pdf Same or similar info at the following site: http://webspace.webring.com/people/ju/um_6747/GATEWOOD.HTM Reading further there I found: "The next band of guerrillas in importance was that headed by John Long and Sam Roberts. These men and their followers were Union in their sympathies. They operated principally in McLemore's Cove, but often crossed the mountain and raided the county round about. This was just about such another gang of outlaws as that of Gatewood, except, perhaps, not so large in numbers. They pretended to offer protection to all Union men and sympathisers, while opposing and persecuting men of opposite opinions. In a general way a description of Gatewood's actions and movements may be applied to that of the Long-Roberts gang. Long was a native of the Cove; he was not, however, related to the Longs in the lower part of Chattanooga Valley. There was deadly enmity between the bands of Long and Gatewood When they met there was pretty sure to be some little excitement, and very likely some one to bury. So far as the author has been able to ascertain by inquiry among the old citizens of the count! y the following men were killed by Long's band: Atlas Andrews (This was my great-grandpa' nephew, we theorize that this caused him to jine up with Gatewood), Wm. Stewart, Hiram Cochran, the two McSpadden boys, and sometime after the war Long killed Blevins Taylor on Lookout Mountain and was given a life sentence by the courts of Alabama but after serving 30 years was pardoned and soon afterward died. The slaying of the two McSpadden boys was a most deplorable as well as most brutal affair. It seems that they were at home on fur-lough from the Confederate Army. One of them was seriously, perhaps dangerously ill. The other was nursing his brother. Anticipating trouble from the Long-Roberts gang, they left home and were hiding in Dirt Town in Chattooga County. Here they were discovered by Long and Roberts and were brutally murdered, one of them in bed. In the melee Roberts had his thumb shot off by his opponents. (See Miss Orpha Center's account of this elsewhere). Mr. C. C. R! ansom, 85, an eye witness, relates this circumstance: Soon after the w ar, at old Liberty Church, in the Cove, there was preaching one night, when Long, under the influence of drink, came in. He first sat down along the aisle, then got up and sat in the "Amen" corner. All this time he was muttering about something. Finally he arose and left the house and as he did so was heard to mutter that he cared not a d-m for anyone present, and that they had better not follow him either. No one followed. It was only a short time after this that he killed Blevins Taylor on Lookout Mountain. He escaped and was at large for some time, but as there was a handsome reward for his capture, and knowing that sooner or later he would be apprehended, he decided to surrender. So going to a house near Cassandra. he went in and surrendered to Temperance Kirkes, saying he would rather surrender to a woman than to a man. He was carried to Alabama, tried, convicted, and given a life sentence. " If the John Long in the Wetumpka prison in 1880 is the correct one (31 in 1880 and born in TN) and he was living in Walker County GA (location of McLemore's Cove) in 1860, then the following 12 year old boy in the 1860 census might be him. John A Long Age in 1860: 12 Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: Tennessee Home in 1860: Chattanooga, Walker, Georgia Gender: Male Post Office: Eagle Cleft Household Members: Name Age John Long 63 TN Elizabeth Long 50 TN David Long 14 TN John A Long 12 TN George A Long 10 TN Joseph Long 8 GA I didn't find a Sam Roberts in Walker Co GA in 1860, but did find a Sampson Roberts, 16, in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co, TN. Since Chattanooga is known for Lookout Mountain attractions, this could be the Sam Roberts of the Long-Roberts gang. See also the following found using Google Books... http://books.google.com/books?id=oeZr20kWbiAC&pg=PA152&lpg=PA152&dq="sam roberts" "john long"&source=bl&ots=ir3ilistFL&sig=o8Pb6rfOkhrQatxVYrpaDbnvrRY&hl=en&ei=W96gTObPOYaCsQPUkInWAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q="sam roberts" "john long"&f=false Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

An article in the Cherokee Advertiser, dated 9 May 1878, states: "In Jail-An Escaped Convict-On last Tuesday about 12 o'clock Mr. J.W. Coker, Jr. and Thomas Daniel brought to jail here a negro, an escaped convict, by the name of Warner Findley. The negro stated that he had formerly lived in Jacksonville, Calhoun county, Alabama; that he had been sentenced to the penitentiary from that place for stealing a watch. He and a number of other convicts were put to work on the South & North Railroad at Helena in February or March. About the 1st of May, he in company with eleven others, one black and ten whites, escaped from Helena. The negro states that the ten white men made a rush at the guards, three in number and overpowering them, captured their arms. One of the convicts by the name of James Smith shot one of the guards. The shot man is in a dangerous condition. The negro above mentioned was captured in the mountains in vicinity of Little River. John Long, who some time since, killed a man by the name of Taylor in DeKalb county, was and is the principal leader of the crowd. When the squad were going up the mountain, Long and Smith said they would die before they were captured, so the negro prisoner says. He also says that the squad are desperate men. The squad also said they would take up quarters on the Lookout Mountain, 20 miles from Chattanooga, where they were confident they could not be found. The negro further says that on Thursday night, instant, some of the crowd broke into a house about one mile from Attalla, in Etowah county and stole some bed quilts. The negro was captured about dark on last Monday evening. He was sentenced to the penitentiary for two and one-half years...." (Taken from Cruising Through the Coosa River News, Vol. I, pp. 72-73) Cheryl A. Brown -----Original Message----- From: Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: alcherok@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2010 10:35 am Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer Can you send that article link also ---- Original Message ----- rom: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> o: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> ent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:43 PM ubject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wrong.. I found another article regarding John Long's pardon and also found out that John's middle initial is A. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Can you send that article link also ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: fostadoptmommy > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I was wrong.. I found another article regarding John Long's pardon and > also found out that John's middle initial is A. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gerald_Hodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ms. Eaton, The previous article connects the two cases so I believe it is the same man. I think this article is a incorrect report. Maybe wishful thinking for the people of the region. I am going to try and get as much original documentation to confirm the identity of John Long. An issue that I am having is that Cherokee County and DeKalb Counties, Alabama, and Dade, Walker, and Chattooga Counties, Georgia all have several John Long's in them. Once I can pin an age on this guy and any added data it will help me. I know this guy murdered many men during the war but he was a criminal under the guise of a "scout". Thank you again for your assistance. I will get digging. Respectfully, Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. M.A. Military History - Civl War Concentration War Between the States Historian Research - Preservation Historian: 39th Georgia Volunteer Infantry Regiment http://39thgavolinfrgt.homestead.com/39thHomepage.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: After searching diligently, I found 2 more articles. One talks about changing the venue of Long's trial to Bartow County and the other is the murder of Echols. At the time of the article, the person who murdered Echols was not known. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wrong.. I found another article regarding John Long's pardon and also found out that John's middle initial is A. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Okay.. even more to confuse you... this article states James Reed murdered Echols... things that make you go hmmmmm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are so welcome... I tried to locate more articles but could not find anything except one that made this very confusing... the article was several months prior to his killing Blevins Taylor which states John Long was murdered in Mississippi. I will attach it also. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gerald_Hodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ms. Eaton, AH! Answered my own question. Rufus Brown Bullock was the governor or Georgia at the time. Respectfully, Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gerald_Hodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ms. Eaton, Thank you very much! This now gives me a date range to work with and for every piece of the puzzle found we find that the number of pieces in the puzzle has grown. Another question would be who is Bullock and how and why does he have the power to pardon a murder conviction? Taylor Blevins would have been twenty-four when he was murdered. Thank you very much for your assistance. I continue to dig. Respectfully, Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. M.A. Military History - Civl War Concentration War Between the States Historian Research - Preservation Historian: 39th Georgia Volunteer Infantry Regiment http://39thgavolinfrgt.homestead.com/39thHomepage.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mildredsearching Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2712/mb.ashx Message Board Post: B. 1882 Spring Garden, Alabama M. Ollie Johnson in Indian territory OK 1907 William Thomas died between 9/1918 and Census of 1920 in Yanich, Latimer Co. OKLAHOMA Ollie and W.T. known as (Tom) had three boys: William Earl, Clarence Lee, and Howard Baxter. Effie Knight witnessed his signature on his draft registration on 9.12.1918 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Bullock ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Gerald_Hodge > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Ms. Eaton, > > AH! Answered my own question. Rufus Brown Bullock was the governor or > Georgia at the time. > > Respectfully, > > Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So that was his 2nd murder (Blevins Taylor), he had already killed Mr. Echols, and who was BULLOCK, he had to be someone in a position of authority as he pardoned Long. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: fostadoptmommy > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Please see attached artcle re:the murder > Kimberly > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fostadoptmommy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please see attached artcle re:the murder Kimberly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gerald_Hodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gina, I believe what I am going to need to help solve this little mystery is the actual court records. There are two to three John Long's per county in Walker, Dade, and Chattooga Counties, Georgia, and De Kalb and Cherokee Counties, Alabama. Very challenging. Respectfully, Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GinaSchiazza51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if this will help: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=John&GSmn=&GSln=Long&GSby=&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=4&GSst=3&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n Grave Search Results Records 1 to 37 (of 37 total matches) Name All NamesAdded in last 24 hoursAdded in last 7 daysAdded in last 30 daysAdded in last 90 days Cemetery Search for "John Long" at Ancestry.com Long, John 36419417 b. Feb. 15, 1904 d. May 23, 1958 Big Creek Baptist Church ... Oak Grove Jefferson County Alabama, USA Long, Pvt John 29807682 b. Sep. 26, 1822 d. Nov. 30, 1901 Wrights Chapel United Met... Wright Lauderdale County Alabama, USA Long, John 40998910 b. Jul. 30, 1834 d. Jun. 21, 1902 Poplar Creek Cemetery Poplar Creek (Limestone County) Limestone County Alabama, USA Long, John 17956055 b. 1781 d. 1865 Chestnut Grove Cemetery Decatur Morgan County Alabama, USA Long, Sgt John 13094223 b. Jul. 29, 1919 d. Apr. 10, 1972 Long Cemetery Coosada Elmore County Alabama, USA Long, John 48402235 b. Sep. 26, 1822 d. Nov. 30, 1901 Wrights Chapel United Met... Wright Lauderdale County Alabama, USA Long, John Augustine 37508215 b. Aug. 22, 1925 d. May 12, 2003 Pine Crest Cemetery Mobile Mobile County Alabama, USA Long, John B. 12142696 b. 1857 d. 1907 Oak Hill Cemetery Jasper Walker County Alabama, USA Long, John C 41285075 b. Mar. 16, 1859 d. Apr. 7, 1948 Lynn Cemetery Lynn Winston County Alabama, USA Long, John C. 41974766 b. Sep. 10, 1869 d. Jun. 30, 1939 Concord Baptist Church Ce... Lee County Alabama, USA Long, John Clopton 41744282 b. Apr. 2, 1860 d. Oct. 9, 1935 Concord Baptist Church Ce... Lee County Alabama, USA Long, John Coleman 40362220 b. Nov. 11, 1879 d. Nov. 26, 1969 New Prospect Baptist Chur... Haleyville Winston County Alabama, USA Long, John D 9085949 b. 1907 d. 1935 Madison Crossroads Cemete... Madison Crossroads Madison County Alabama, USA Long, John Doctor Riley, Jr 27275692 b. Mar. 8, 1863 d. May 5, 1882 Hill Family Cemetery Lawrence County Alabama, USA Long, John Edgar 35273411 b. 1938 d. 2008 Barrytown Cemetery Barrytown Choctaw County Alabama, USA Long, John H 25950798 b. Oct. 28, 1898 d. Jan. 4, 1987 Montgomery Memorial Cemet... Montgomery Montgomery County Alabama, USA Long, John H. 43093618 b. Mar. 25, 1878 d. Dec. 2, 1942 Gallant First Baptist Chu... Gallant Etowah County Alabama, USA Long, John H. 41761988 b. 1882 d. 1954 Greens Chapel Cemetery DeKalb County Alabama, USA Long, John H. 5868479 b. May 18, 1865 d. Apr. 8, 1913 Oakwood Cemetery Troy Pike County Alabama, USA Visit the Alabama Find A Grave Forum!! Long, John M 50079918 b. Sep. 29, 1817 d. Jul. 29, 1883 Cedar Bluff Cemetery Cedar Bluff Cherokee County Alabama, USA Long, John M. 54889832 b. 1880 d. Dec. 17, 1962 Head Springs Cemetery Valley Head DeKalb County Alabama, USA Long, John P. 38747843 b. unknown d. Jan. 4, 1936 Oakwood Cemetery Sheffield Colbert County Alabama, USA Long, John Russell 51376059 b. Jun. 8, 1959 d. Jun. 21, 2006 Old Salem Cemetery Clarke County Alabama, USA Long, John S. 46115037 b. 1900 d. 1970 Lakeview Memory Gardens Phenix City Russell County Alabama, USA Long, John T. 5868497 b. Sep. 14, 1839 d. Aug. 26, 1914 Oakwood Cemetery Troy Pike County Alabama, USA Long, John T. 24773207 b. 1829 d. 1879 Pioneer Cemetery Greenville Butler County Alabama, USA Long, John T. 7267118 b. May 24, 1895 d. Jun. 18, 1915 Holly Springs Baptist Chu... Weogufka Coosa County Alabama, USA Long, John W 45578838 b. Jul. 27, 1902 d. Jan. 30, 1988 West Jefferson Freewill B... West Jefferson Jefferson County Alabama, USA Long, John W 8750224 b. unknown d. Aug. 12, 1862 Maple Hill Cemetery Huntsville Madison County Alabama, USA Long, John W., Sr 31640773 b. Feb. 9, 1917 d. Sep. 27, 1979 Athens City Cemetery Athens Limestone County Alabama, USA Long, John Whitfield 12142942 b. Dec. 20, 1904 d. Oct. 9, 1956 Oak Hill Cemetery Jasper Walker County Alabama, USA Long, John William 21518598 b. Feb. 1, 1892 d. Aug. 11, 1944 Guys Chapel United Method... Rabun Baldwin County Alabama, USA Long, John William 42555496 b. Mar. 10, 1872 d. Mar. 16, 1951 Pierce Chapel Cemetery Opelika Lee County Alabama, USA Long, John W 49479414 b. May 5, 1900 d. Aug. 17, 1963 Bethany Primitive Baptist... Mellow Valley Clay County Alabama, USA Long, Johnie 41973051 b. Jul. 16, 1906 d. May 14, 1908 Concord Baptist Church Ce... Lee County Alabama, USA Long, Johnnie Pearl Carnes 11397994 b. unknown d. Jul. 18, 2005 Gatlin Cemetery Ardmore Limestone County Alabama, USA Long, Johnnie E S 30216297 b. Nov. 11, 1926 d. Aug. 12, 1991 Andalusia Memorial Cemete... Andalusia Covington County Alabama, USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gerald_Hodge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sir or Ma'am, I believe this may be the person, however, I believe him to be older than thirty-one in 1880 but will have to dig more into it. This is the first solid clue I have on him. He could have lied about his age or it could have been a issue with the enumerator. He was in prison for one of many murders he committed so lying about his age would not been a stretch. Thank you so much. I have found people as students in schools so I don't know why it didn't dawn on me to check the Federal census. I will keep digging. Respectfully, Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. M.A. Military History - Civl War Concentration War Between the States Historian Research - Preservation Historian: 39th Georgia Volunteer Infantry Regiment http://39thgavolinfrgt.homestead.com/39thHomepage.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ltate29 Surnames: Long Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Additional information: Long's 1880 entry had a line drawn through it, as did many others. After reading a history of the DOC in Alabama at http://www.doc.state.al.us/history.asp I believe he was leased out to work elsewhere and may appear in the census again, but as a convict or inmate. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

With this being a felony, it would of went to a Circuit Court, so is Alabama divided into circuits as far as courts - and if he went to prison, it would of been to Kilby in Elmore County, that is the main male prison for felons - and the DOC is located in Montgomery and they have all th einformation on prisoners, also he would of had a DCI # or prisoner ID # and perhaps his info would of been under that - I would get his death certificate - ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Looking for a Murderer > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Gerald_Hodge > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.cherokee/2711.3.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Gina, > > I believe what I am going to need to help solve this little mystery is the > actual court records. There are two to three John Long's per county in > Walker, Dade, and Chattooga Counties, Georgia, and De Kalb and Cherokee > Counties, Alabama. Very challenging. > > Respectfully, > > Gerald D. Hodge, Jr. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALCHEROK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >