In the front yard of a funeral home, "Drive carefully, we'll wait." On an electrician's truck, "Let us remove your shorts." Outside a radiator repair shop, "Best place in town to take a leak." On a maternity room door, "Push, Push, Push." On a taxidermist's window, "We really know our stuff." On a butcher's window, "Let me meat your needs." On a fence, "Salesmen welcome. Dog food is expensive." On a muffler shop, "No appointment necessary. We'll hear you coming." In a dry cleaner's emporium, "Drop your pants here." On a desk in a reception room, "We shoot every 3rd salesman, and the 2nd one just left." In a veterinarian's waiting room, "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!" In a Beauty Shop, "Dye now!" In a restaurant window, "Don't stand there and be hungry, come in and get fed up." In a cafeteria, "Shoes are required to eat in the cafeteria. Socks can eat any place they want."

This happen in GA, but the family moved to Cherokee Co., AL after the civil war. James and family lived in GA during the civil war. One of the daughters told a story of how the union soldiers came and found the corn they had hid. The box was unmoveable (nailed down) so he (the soldier) got a pair of her daddy's breeches, tied knots in the legs and filled up the pants with the corn. She said she would always remember the soldier riding off with her daddy's pants "Ridding behind him". She also told how they could see Atlanta burn for three days. After things quitted down, she walked all the way to Rockmart, Ga to get help for the family. She tells about meeting a black woman and asking for something to eat. All the woman had was a piece of molded cornbread. The girl said that was the best cornbread she had ever ate. (She had not had anything to eat for three days.) Several of my families moved to Cherokee Co after the war and started new lives. My great great grandmother moved her family to AL. Her husband had been killed in 1860 leaving her to raise 10 children alone. Her oldest son had been killed during the war and her second son was badly wounded and was found 'unfit' for field service. So my great granddad served as a 'nurse' at a confederate hospital until the end of the war. Out of the nine surviving children, all but one remained near Cherokee Co. The second son that had been wounded during the war helped in a big way to populate Cherokee Co., he was the father of 26 children, although I have only found the names of 23. And most of his children had large families. There is hardly a family in Cherokee that I am not related to in some way. Would like to read more civil war stories Doris

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Lee - I found these at the Rootsweb Mail List home page. http://www.public.usit.net/mruddy/ Is the Civil War Mail List Homepage. To subscribe to the Civil War list [email protected] for digest mode. To receive each post individually, replace the "D" with an "L". I LOVED Cold Mountain. I have read it without putting it down, and I listened to it on audio tape twice. While greatly fictionalized, I can imagine a great majority of it was painfully accurate - if not all to one individual - in this case Inman - but in a general sense to those southerners who tried to make their way home. Sandy

Thanks for the great survival stories. They don't concern my direct family but I did have family in the area at the time and it is good to know the sort of world they lived in during those terrible war years. Mickey Mildred Wright "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 [email protected] [email protected]

Hello, Thanks for your stories about the Civil War. It helps me understand why my ancestors left Cherokee County right after the Civil War and went to Cobb or Fulton County Georgia, and thence to Texas. I just finished the novel "Cold Mountain" by Charles Frazier, which depicts the plight of Southerners during the Civil War (although it takes place mostly in the Blue Ridge Mountains). Does anyone else have any interesting Civil War stories? Also, can anyone recommend any good novels similar to "Cold Mountain"? In Marion Co., TN, Cherokee Co., AL, Fulton Co. or Cobb Co., GA, and in East Texas (Fannin, Hopkins and Lamar Counties), I am researching HANEY, BRANUM, BROWN and BAKER. Lee Nielson

Another civil war story from Cherokee Co., AL Here is an excerpt from a letter found in the pension file for CSA soldiers. It was written by Sarah Ann (Kimbrell) Weaver, widow of Joseph Alexander Weaver, Sr. of Cherokee Co., AL. She was trying to retain her widow's pension. On the 1910 census, she was listed as 84 years old with her son, Joseph H Weaver and his family. Thus she was 88 when the letter was written. <<<<begin quote>>>>> (dated) 26 Jan 1914; Letter from Gaylesville, ......I can not come to your office at Montgomery. I am nearly 88 years old & too feeble to come if I had the means which I have not. But two of my neighbors, who were with my husband in the civil war have made affidavits to that effect .........I know 2 or 3 other men who were with him who are yet living.. I can get their testimony if you so direct. I know, Joseph A Weaver, my husband served in the Southern Army- and that we had nearly all our property, above ground taken from us or destroyed by Sherman's army, part of which camped near my house for 10 days. If you take this little allowance from me you will do an unjust thing. But I have not many more years to live and be a burden to my State or any one. I am yours truly, Ann (herXmark) Weaver. <<<<<<<<end quote>>>>>>>> If one looks at the census records and the service records, it is clear that Sarah and her very young children were probably home alone when the soldiers camped near her home. This must have been a terrible time for her and thousands of others in the same circumstances. Sarah Ann was my husband's g-g-grandmother. Melba

Does anyone know when the Yankees came through Cherokee Co? Was it during Streight's raid in Apr/May 1863? The following is from "Stories of Cherokee County and some of the men and boys that served in The War Between The States Sometimes called the Civil War" by Dixie Clifton Miller "George ASHLEY [1890-1982], grandson of William ASHLEY who married Jane SHAW relates that William ASHLEY who served in the War Between the States was wounded in the battle at Chickamauga and died. George ASHLEY said that he recalls his mother, Mrs. Joseph (Ella CHANDLER [1866-1956] ) ASHLEY telling about the Yankees camping at JORDAN's Grist Mill (some may know as NEWBERRY Mill) for two weeks. The Yankees were enroute to Rome in Georgia. Joseph ASHLEY [1857-1911] was eight years old. The Yankees destroyed the grist mill and everything that was left by the Confederate soldiers for their women and children was stolen or destroyed. The Yanks killed a two year old heifer of Jane ASHLEYs and cut the hind legs off and left the rest for the birds to eat. When the Yanks left their camping place, they left one morning about daylight. Some, those on horseback rode close to the road in the woods and those on foot took the road. Jane ASHLEY had cooked bread for her children that morning and had a pitcher of milk on the table when the foot soldiers came by and ate the bread and drank the milk not leaving the children a bite to eat. Jane ASHLEY saw what was going to happen and she got some of the food they had to cook and put it in a box and sat down on the box until they passed through which was dark. But when the next bunch came she wasn't so lucky. They took the pillow cases from the pillows, sifted corn meal from the barrel into the pillow cases. One soldier hung his sword up near a door while he sifted meal. Whit [1858-1928], Jane ASHLEY's little boy, climbed up the door and was reaching for the sword when Jane ASHLEY saw his intentions and ran to grab the sword. When she pulled him away, the lad was sobbing, "I was goin' cut his durn head off." Since the Yankees had destroyed JORDAN's Grist Mill and stolen all the corn Jane ASHLEY had to take a hammer and beat the corn into meal. So scarse was meal that she did not sift it. Wash ASHLEY [George Washington 1857-?] and his sister, Mary Jane (Molly) [1858-1939] children of Aaron ASHLEY had some pet chickens. The Yankees when they came by the Aaron ASHLEY place took a stick which they split in the middle, but didn't split to the end, they pulled the split open, stuck the chickens feet through the slit then released the split closing the chickens feet inside the split place. Wash and Mary Jane cried so and pleaded for their pet chickens that the Yanks told them to show them their pet chickens. Wash did and the Yanks let their chickens go free. They kept the rest. The other Aaron ASHLEY children, Jim [1864-1928], John [1859-?], watched the goings on. [note: I don't think this can be correct as James " Jim" ASHLEY was born at the end of the Civil War and would have been too young to watch what was going on. nkp] Thanks! Nicole Kilgore Pinson

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A farmer decides that his 3 sows should be bred, and contacts his buddy down the road, who owns 3 male pigs. They agree on a stud fee, and the farmer puts the sows in his pickup and brings them down the road to the males. He leaves them all day, and when he picks them up that night, asks the man how he can tell if it 'took' or not. The breeder replies that if, the next morning, the sows were grazing on grass, they were pregnant, but if they were rolling in the mud as usual, they probably weren't ... Comes the morn, the sows are rolling in the mud as usual, so the farmer puts them in the truck and brings them back for a second full day of frolic. This continues for a week, since each morning the sows are rolling in the mud. About the sixth day, the farmer wakes up and tells his wife, "I don't have the heart to look again. This is getting ridiculous, AND expensive. You check today." With that, the wife peeks out the bedroom window and starts to laugh. "What is it?" asks the farmer excitedly. "Are they grazing at last?" "Nope." says the wife. "Two of them are jumping up and down in the back of your truck, and the other one is honking the horn!"

I am new to the list and just got in on the last couple of messages. I have some Fortenberrys in my tree. May be a connection. I have a survey of Taylor's Chapel Cem. and Weaver's Cem. if anyone needs look up from them. Also have some partial cemetery list for several other Cherokee Co. cemeteries. I have a lot of family from Cherokee Co., AL. BURGESS - COSTNER - ESTES - ELLIS - GARRETT - HOUSE - HOOPER - INGRAM - MOBLEY - NICHOLS - NORTON - PATTY - PEACE - POLLARD - SIMMONS I am always looking for new cousins. Doris Estes Robbins [email protected]

You are very welcome, Diane! I was glad to be able to help! I just remembered that when I sent the info the other day, I wanted everyone to know that in addition to the Starling Cemetery, I also went to the Coffey cemetery, which is just down the road. The names I found there were Coffey, Daniel, Wood, and Chancellor. If these ring a bell with anyone, let me know! Ramona, I will continue checking cemeteries and if I run across any Fortenberry's, I'll let you know. My plan is to catalog as many of them as I run across, especially the smaller one, since they seem to receive the least attention in publication! Pruning the family tree ISN'T allowed! (Mainly a note to MY relatives!) Tricia Kuner Smith

THANK YOU TRICIA--You are truly a dear for this info on my ggg's and some of their children. I just can't thank you enough. Dianne in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Tricia <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 8:41 AM Subject: [ALCHEROK] The Starling Cemetery > Hi everyone, > > I just got off the phone with customer service at my ISP and they said that > THIS e-mail should have no problem making it to the list! I apologize for > the delay, but my server went down Wednesday and I could not send or > receive! When they thought it was fixed--and I started getting mail > again--I was unable to send! Everything I've sent over the past few days > has been returned to me! > > Do any of you need any look-ups done in Cherokee Co cemeteries?? I will be > able to do quite a few over the next couple of weeks....Just let me know! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > The Starling Family Cemetery > > 27 October 1999 > > **These are listed in the order that they were encountered walking from > front to back. The information is exactly as the markers appear. > > J. Infant > > Husband Johnson > > Nancy Jane Johnson 8-8-1856 > > Millard Edge 2-23-1911--7-1-1911 > > Capt. Wiley Starling Co M Malone's AL Cav CSA > 1830--1892 > > J. Pickens Infant Sister > > J. Pickens Starling 7-22-1863--10-31-1894 > > 6 (or more) graves marked with large rocks > > Mary Jane Bramlet 1842--11-6-1908 > > A.H. Starling 7-28-1825-- 4-4-1897 > Co M Malone's AL Cav CSA > > Eliza J. wife of A.H. Starling 10-9-1828--9-19-1917 > > Mack D. Starling 6-10-1865--6-11-1932 > age 67 years > > Louise Starling 6-22-1880--7-13-1972 > Beloved wife of M.D. > Mother of H.B. Starling > ____________________________________________ > John Starling 1803-1863 > > Nancy Starling 1807-1885 > > A.H. Bill Starling 7-28-1825--4-4-1897 > > Pickens Starling born 1837 > ____________________________________________ > 5 small stones in a row, all marked "A.Child" > _______________________________________________ > Phetty Grand Slave > > > Pruning the family tree ISN'T allowed! > (Mainly a note to MY relatives!) > Tricia Kuner Smith > > > ==== ALCHEROK Mailing List ==== > ALCHEROK-L Mailing List Archives. Search by by name, etc. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=alcherok > Cherokee County Alabama Web Page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~alcherok/ > Listowner's Email address - [email protected] > >

Hi everyone, I just got off the phone with customer service at my ISP and they said that THIS e-mail should have no problem making it to the list! I apologize for the delay, but my server went down Wednesday and I could not send or receive! When they thought it was fixed--and I started getting mail again--I was unable to send! Everything I've sent over the past few days has been returned to me! Do any of you need any look-ups done in Cherokee Co cemeteries?? I will be able to do quite a few over the next couple of weeks....Just let me know! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The Starling Family Cemetery 27 October 1999 **These are listed in the order that they were encountered walking from front to back. The information is exactly as the markers appear. J. Infant Husband Johnson Nancy Jane Johnson 8-8-1856 Millard Edge 2-23-1911--7-1-1911 Capt. Wiley Starling Co M Malone's AL Cav CSA 1830--1892 J. Pickens Infant Sister J. Pickens Starling 7-22-1863--10-31-1894 6 (or more) graves marked with large rocks Mary Jane Bramlet 1842--11-6-1908 A.H. Starling 7-28-1825-- 4-4-1897 Co M Malone's AL Cav CSA Eliza J. wife of A.H. Starling 10-9-1828--9-19-1917 Mack D. Starling 6-10-1865--6-11-1932 age 67 years Louise Starling 6-22-1880--7-13-1972 Beloved wife of M.D. Mother of H.B. Starling ____________________________________________ John Starling 1803-1863 Nancy Starling 1807-1885 A.H. Bill Starling 7-28-1825--4-4-1897 Pickens Starling born 1837 ____________________________________________ 5 small stones in a row, all marked "A.Child" _______________________________________________ Phetty Grand Slave Pruning the family tree ISN'T allowed! (Mainly a note to MY relatives!) Tricia Kuner Smith

Tricia, I'm not Diane but I have a map of Cherokee Co. Starling Cemetery is just a little south of Little River Church(by the scale, measures a little less than 1 mile). The church is near where Co Rd #145 angles south off Hwy 273. The church is on the southeast side of the highway, the Starling Cemetery is on the northwest side just north of Wolf Creek and Co Rd # 136(does not cross Hwy 273, just goes east from it). There is another cemetery (Coffey Cemetery) across the highway from the church. The closest town shown on the highway is Little River, (the "dot" on the map is a little less than 2 miles north of Starling Cemetery and about a mile north of Little River church). The first town shown going on south on Hwy 273 is Blue Pond, (it's "dot" is aprox. 3 1/2 miles south of Starling Cemetery.) Hope this helps, Melba -----Original Message----- From: Tricia <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Starling Cemetery >Hi Diane, > >I will be in Cherokee County tomorrow (Wednesday) and I'm sure I can go by >the Starling Cemetery for you! Do you know where on 273 it is? I work in >Cherokee Co, but that particular cemetery doesn't ring a bell....I 'll do >my best to check out the names there for you! > > > > >Pruning the family tree ISN'T allowed! >(Mainly a note to MY relatives!) >Tricia Kuner Smith > > >==== ALCHEROK Mailing List ==== >ALCHEROK-L Mailing List Archives. Search by by name, etc. >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=alcherok >Cherokee County Alabama Web Page: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~alcherok/ >Listowner's Email address - [email protected] > >

Hi Diane, I will be in Cherokee County tomorrow (Wednesday) and I'm sure I can go by the Starling Cemetery for you! Do you know where on 273 it is? I work in Cherokee Co, but that particular cemetery doesn't ring a bell....I 'll do my best to check out the names there for you! Pruning the family tree ISN'T allowed! (Mainly a note to MY relatives!) Tricia Kuner Smith

Hate to email again but just came across a letter to my mother in early 70's and referred to a book on Walker's Chapel: Foot Prints of Walker's Chapel by Mary Jo Akins. Does anyone know where I may still obtain a copy of this book!!!!??? Thanks Dianne

Hello Everyone--Just got some info from someone so kind to answer my query on Starlings. Gave me info of a Starling Cemetery located on 273 near Wolf Creek. Does ANYONE have names from this cemetery??? Thanks Dianne

HELP!!! Can anyone tell me where Starling Gap is in Cherokee County. My ggg grandmother came from there--Her name Margaret Jane Starling. Also, has anyone heard of Arthur's Cove---the Arthurs came from there!! If no info on these little places, does anyone know of anywhere in the County to write for info. THANKS SOOOO MUCH Dianne

I was interested in the story of what happened when Union trrops came thru Cherokee County. My great grandfather, George Hagood, was fourteen years old when the war ended but he had the responsibility of an adult as he was the sole male left at home. The family has the story that one of his duties was to drive the livestock up on the side of the mountain whenever the Yankee patrols came thru the area. This is the only verbal family history of the Civil War that was left to me. They left Alabama just as soon as they got everyone home from the war. By 1867 they had been in what was then Clark County, Arkansas long enough that they filed for a homestead there. They apparently did not plan to stay in Arkansas and my great-great grandfather, William Bradford Hagood, sent one of his sons back to Cherokee County to pay the taxes on their land but the carpetbaggers had already taken it. One of the sons had contracted tuberculosis in the army and died right after they arrived in southwest Arkansas. One of the daughters-in-law had nursed him during his sickness and then died from the disease herself. Later another brother died from the disease too. Really a gosh-awful story to say the least. Cherokee County, Alabama is really tied up in my family's history. Boice Burns Houston, TX