Looking for the parents of John Jackson b 1816 maybe Gwinnett Co,GA who married 21 Dec 1837 In Gwinnett Co, GA Charlotte Terry b 1819. They lived there until 1860 when they moved to Cherokee Co, AL with their kids, Sarah Jane b 1839 (married George Washington Boozer) William B b 1842, John 1843, Harriett 1844, James M. 1846, Emilus b 1851, Mary b 1855 and Edina b 1859. They moved around with the Boozers..Henry and Peter who were in Cherokee and Calhoun, later in Dekalb. I can't find which civil war units were out of those counties..I can't find these people listed anywhere during the war...yet I know they were in the area. Johns brother may have been James Jackson. Any ideas?

1. ARCHIBALD1 CLEVENGER died Abt. 1889. He married (1) RACHEL ANN ALLEN 1840 in Cocke County, Tennessee. She died Bef. 1860. He married (2) MARION WHITE Bet. 1860 - 1866. He married (3) JANE CARVER Abt. 1867. She was born November 15, 1841 in North Carolina, and died May 19, 1913. Children of ARCHIBALD CLEVENGER and RACHEL ALLEN are: i. MARGARET2 CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1870. ii. WILLIAM CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1870. iii. ARCHIE CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1870. iv. BEN CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1870. Child of ARCHIBALD CLEVENGER and MARION WHITE is: v. JOHN A.2 CLEVENGER, b. June 1865; d. December 04, 1939. Children of ARCHIBALD CLEVENGER and JANE CARVER are: 2. vi. ISAAC G.2 CLEVENGER, b. Abt. 1879; d. October 25, 1918. vii. ROGER CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1880. viii. THOMAS CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1880. ix. JANE CLEVENGER, b. Bef. 1880. 3. x. DAVID M. CLEVENGER, b. July 12, 1876; d. July 20, 1962. 4. xi. SAMUEL LEE CLEVENGER, b. June 1868; d. February 11, 1911. Generation No. 2 2. ISAAC G.2 CLEVENGER (ARCHIBALD1) was born Abt. 1879, and died October 25, 1918. He is buried at Lee's Chapel Cemetery, Pinemountain, Blount County, Alabama. He married MAGGIE MAE PERKINS. Children of ISAAC CLEVENGER and MAGGIE PERKINS are: 5. i. MARGIE IRENE3 CLEVENGER, Alabama. 6. ii. SAMUEL DAMON CLEVENGER, b. January 24, 1913; d. November 07, 1988, Alabama. He is buried at Hopewell Baptist Church Cemetery, Pinson, Alabama. **************************************** 1. BOB1 ODOM died Unknown. Children of BOB ODOM are: 2. i. WILLIAM2 ODOM, b. Walker County, Alabama. ii. MONROE ODOM, b. Walker County, Alabama. iii. JAKE ODOM, b. Walker County, Alabama. iv. HENSON ODOM, b. Walker County, Alabama. v. WEB ODOM, b. Walker County, Alabama. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 ODOM (BOB1) buried in Walker County, Alabama. He married KATHERINE UNDERWOOD. She is buried in Walker County, Alabama. *********************************** 1. JIM1 KING was born in Germany, and died Unknown. He married FAITH MOORE. She was born in France, and died Unknown. Child of JIM KING and FAITH MOORE is: 2. i. LIZZIE2 KING, b. Abt. 1886, Pennsylvania; d. Unknown. Generation No. 2 2. LIZZIE2 KING (JIM1) was born Abt. 1886 in Pennsylvania, and died Unknown. She married SELLY JESSIE MYRICK September 29, 1902 in Jefferson County, Alabama, son of HAL MYRICK and MARY ROBBINS. He was born Abt. 1885 in Ioda, Alabama, USA, and died Unknown. ******************************************** 1. SAMUEL ABEL2 HOLLOWAY (UNKNOWN1) was born June 1857 in Georgia, and died January 1925 in Jefferson County, Alabama. He married MARTHA JAQUELINE COSLEY Abt. 1880 in Alabama, daughter of UNKNOWN COSLEY and UNKNOWN. She was born February 1861 in Georgia, and died October 1930 in Jefferson County, Alabama. Children of SAMUEL HOLLOWAY and MARTHA COSLEY are: 2. i. JOHN WILLIAM WARNER3 HOLLOWAY, b. May 18, 1884, Alabama; d. August 03, 1943. He is buried at Hopewell Baptist Church Cemetery, Pinson, Alabama. ii. ELLA EUGENE HOLLOWAY, b. October 23, 1881, Alabama; d. August 12, 1948, Alabama; m. (1) WM. BUTLER; b. January 10, 1884; d. June 21, 1950; m. (2) UNKNOWN LINARD. iii. LUDIE LUCYNTHIA HOLLOWAY, b. December 25, 1887, Alabama; d. December 29, 1950, Alabama; m. UNKNOWN STEPHENS. iv. MAUDE BEDELL HOLLOWAY, b. December 24, 1888, Blount County, Alabama; d. February 01, 1937, Blount County, Alabama; m. JOHN HENRY MCGOWEN, August 18, 1906; b. April 08, 1887, Compton, Blount County, Alabama; d. April 06, 1965, Remlap, Blount County, Alabama. v. GROVER PINSON HOLLOWAY, b. May 04, 1893, Blount County, Alabama. 3. vi. OLIVER ABEL HOLLOWAY, b. February 28, 1896, Blount County, Alabama. vii. LEONA HOLLOWAY, b. Blount County, Alabama; d. Died in Infancy. viii. PEARL ANNIE HOLLOWAY, b. June 1900, Blount County, Alabama; m. UNKNOWN WEEMS. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN WILLIAM WARNER3 HOLLOWAY (SAMUEL ABEL2, UNKNOWN1) was born May 18, 1884 in Alabama, and died August 03, 1943 in Alabama. He married CALLIE A. MORGAN December 31, 1906 in Blount County, Alabama, daughter of JAMES MORGAN and NANCY CARVER. She was born July 15, 1890 in Alabama, and died August 15, 1971 in Alabama. Children of JOHN HOLLOWAY and CALLIE MORGAN are: 4. i. JESSE LENORE4 HOLLOWAY, b. January 12, 1928, Birmingham, Alabama; d. November 17, 1995, Detroit, Michigan. ii. CLARENCE HOLLOWAY, m. UNKNOWN HAYES. iii. CONNIE HOLLOWAY. iv. EDDIE HOLLOWAY. v. JOHN WILLIAM HOLLOWAY. vi. MARY HOLLOWAY, m. UNKNOWN BUSBY. vii. RAYMOND LEE HOLLOWAY. viii. HARLEY EUGENE HOLLOWAY, b. June 19, 1907, Blount County, Alabama; d. January 03, 1959. ************************************************* 1. THOMAS1 MYRICK died Unknown. He married (1) SARAH WHIZENANT PAYNE. She was born in Unknown, and died Unknown. He married (2) MARY BASKIN JENNINGS, daughter of UNKNOWN BASKIN. She was born in Baldwin, Mississippi, and died Unknown. Child of THOMAS MYRICK and SARAH PAYNE is: 2. i. HAL2 MYRICK, d. Unknown. Generation No. 2 2. HAL2 MYRICK (THOMAS1) died Unknown. He married MARY KATHERINE ROBBINS. She died Unknown. Children of HAL MYRICK and MARY ROBBINS are: 3. i. SELLY JESSIE3 MYRICK, b. Abt. 1885, Ioda, Alabama, USA; d. Unknown. ii. ZACKY MYRICK, d. Unknown. iii. PHRONY MYRICK, d. Unknown. Generation No. 3 3. SELLY JESSIE3 MYRICK (HAL2, THOMAS1) was born Abt. 1885 in Ioda, Alabama, USA, and is buried at Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery, West Jefferson, Alabama. He married LIZZIE KING September 29, 1902 in Jefferson County, Alabama, daughter of JIM KING and FAITH MOORE. She was born Abt. 1886 in Pennsylvania, and is buried at Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery, West Jefferson, Alabama Children of SELLY MYRICK and LIZZIE KING are: i. WILMA LOUISE4 MYRICK, b. Private; m. EARL WAYNE ODOM, Private; b. Private. ii. BEN MYRICK, b. August 16, 1917, Trafford, Alabama; d. July 19, 1995, Alabama. He is buried at First Baptist Church, Trafford, Alabama., m. MAGDALENE UNKNOWN, Private; b. Private. iii. WILLIE C. L. MYRICK, b. July 04, 1919, Trafford, Alabama; d. December 11, 1997, Alabama. Buried at First Baptist Church Cemetery, Trafford, Alabama., m. RUTH L. UNKNOWN, Private; b. Private. iv. THOMAS SHERMIN MYRICK, b. April 04, 1921, Trafford, Alabama; d. November 03, 1989, Alabama; m. NAOMI S. UNKNOWN, Private; b. Private. v. HOLBERT ROSEVELT MYRICK, b. Bangor, Blount County, Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama; m. JULIE ELIZABETH PRIDMORE, Private; b. Private. vi. PAUL MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama. vii. S. J. MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama. viii. SEBBIE MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama; m. ROY ROLLINS, Private; b. Private. ix. AUDREY MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama; m. GORDON FREEMAN, Private; b. Private. x. EVALINE MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama. xi. BESSIE LEE MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama; m. J. C. HOWTON, Private; b. Private. xii. OPAL MYRICK, b. Private; m. (1) MILFORD ODOM, Private; b. Private; m. (2) TOMMY PARR, Private; b. Private. xiii. EDNA MYRICK, b. Alabama; d. Unknown, Alabama; m. GRILL GILBERT, Private; b. Private. Would like to here from anyone researchiing these family lines Thanks Michale Powell <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/mchelle86967/">My homepage</A> http://www.geocities.com/mchelle86967

Hi all. Need some help. Found two cousins through the Samples message boards, but not sure what to think now. Both of them told me they thought her name was Smith, but they weren't sure. Any ideas on how I can find out? I was always told that my ancestor, Ida Belle, was named after her mother Addy Bell. But i have nothing to prove that either.... Here is my info. I would appreciate any info on this family. :-) Trisha Descendants of Thomas Jefferson Samples Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS JEFFERSON1 SAMPLES was born July 1848 in Georgia, and died in Cherokee, Alabama. He married ADALINE A. BELLE/SMITH 1874. She was born 06 March 1850 in Georgia1, and died 06 July 1928 in Cherokee, AL. More About THOMAS JEFFERSON SAMPLES: Burial: Fairview Methodist Cemetary, Slackland, Cherokee, Alabama Census: 1900, Turekytown, Etowah, Alabama More About ADALINE A. BELLE/SMITH: Burial: Shepherd Cemetary, near Slackland, Cherokee, Alabama Cemetary Record: Shepherd Cem. near Slackland, AL Census: 1910, Hollis, Etowah, Alabama Children of THOMAS SAMPLES and ADALINE BELLE/SMITH are: i. WILLIAM LLOYD2 SAMPLES2, b. 08 July 1874, Georgia; d. 27 March 1939; m. LAURA LEE MCBRAYER3; b. 1876; d. 1959. ii. CHARLES L. SAMPLES4, b. February 1877, Georgia. More About CHARLES L. SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Etowah, Alabama iii. ROBERT HENRY SAMPLES4,5, b. 27 July 1879, Stone Mountain, Georgia; m. LULA CORDELIA ORR6, 1899; b. 1883, Centre, Cherokee, Alabama. More About ROBERT HENRY SAMPLES: Census: 1920, Leesburg, Cherokee, Alabama More About LULA CORDELIA ORR: Census: 1910, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama 2. iv. IDA BELL SAMPLES, b. 07 December 1881, Alabama; d. 05 August 1954, Centre, Cherokee, Alabama. v. MATTIE M. SAMPLES7, b. August 1882, Georgia; m. COLVIN ROSS. More About MATTIE M. SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Etowah, Alabama vi. EFFIE M. SAMPLES7, b. May 1888, Georgia. More About EFFIE M. SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Etowah, Alabama vii. TABITHA SAMPLES7, b. February 1891, Georgia. More About TABITHA SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Etowah, Alabama viii. THOMAS WESLEY SAMPLES7, b. March 1893, Georgia. More About THOMAS WESLEY SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Turkeytown, Etowah, Alabama Generation No. 2 2. IDA BELL2 SAMPLES (THOMAS JEFFERSON1)7 was born 07 December 1881 in Alabama, and died 05 August 1954 in Centre, Cherokee, Alabama. She married JAMES HENRY GREEN 24 October 1896 in Cherokee, Alabama, son of JAMES GREEN and ELIZABETH PEARSON. He was born 02 October 1876 in Georgia, and died 27 August 1945 in Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama. More About IDA BELL SAMPLES: Census: 1900, Cherokee, AL Death certificate: 05 August 1954, Centre, Cherokee, Alabama More About JAMES HENRY GREEN: Census: 1900, Cherokee, AL Death certificate: 27 August 1945, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama Children of IDA SAMPLES and JAMES GREEN are: i. INFANT DAUGHTER3 GREEN, b. 01 March 1898; d. 18 March 1898. ii. CARRIE BELL GREEN, b. 15 August 1899, Alabama; d. 14 November 1921, Centre, Cherokee, Alabama; m. JOHN C. CLEMONDS. More About CARRIE BELL GREEN: Census: 1900, Cherokee, AL iii. JOSEPH DANIEL GREEN, b. 30 January 1901. iv. LIZZIE MAE GREEN, b. 17 April 1902, Alabama; d. 12 October 1986, Centre, Cherokee, Alabama; m. FREEMAN VINCENT LAY, 09 September 1918, Rome, Floyd, Georgia; b. 25 September 1898, Chattooga, Georgia; d. 23 April 1943, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama. More About LIZZIE MAE GREEN: Burial: Cedar Bluff Cemetary, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama Cemetary Record: Cherokee, AL Census: 1920, Cherokee, AL Death certificate: 12 October 1986, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama More About FREEMAN VINCENT LAY: Burial: Cedar Bluff Cemetary, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama Cemetary Record: Cherokee, AL Census: 1920, Cherokee, AL Death certificate: 23 April 1943, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama v. EMMA PEARL GREEN, b. 19 October 1905; d. 02 September 1971; m. (1) THOMAS THURMAN; m. (2) DWIGHT HORN. More About EMMA PEARL GREEN: Census: 1910, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama vi. WILLIE C. GREEN, b. 18 August 1909; d. 20 January 1964, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama. More About WILLIE C. GREEN: Census: 1910, Cedar Bluff, Cherokee, Alabama vii. LESTER B. GREEN, b. 05 September 1923; m. DOROTHY MONEY. Endnotes 1. Shepherd Cemetery, Cherokee, Alabama, Cemetery Records. 2. email contact, Robin [email protected] 3. email contact. 4. Lester Green, as told to Shirley Line, 1998 Lay Family Reunion. 5. email contact, John W. Samples [email protected] 6. email contact, John W. Samples [email protected] 7. Lester Green, as told to Shirley Line, 1998 Lay Family Reunion.

Thanks, Sandy! What a great service you have provided for NE AL researchers! May I share your work with other researchers? I am on another list for users of the Bygones software for organizing one's research. Repositories such as the ones you list are set up in databases, then one can take this information to the various places, set up the research question, list family names being searched, and the results of the search (and much more). We share the databases we have set up. I'd like to enter your list into a database and share with this group. Is that OK? Thanks again, Martha Lyle

Hope this isn't wearing on folks, but here is a listing of the facilities that you folks recommended, as well as address, hours, web sites, etc. that I've been busy digging up. PLEASE CHECK each facility to confirm hours, etc. if you plan on going. Sandy Anniston-Calhoun County Public Library (The Alabama Room) 108 E. 10th St., P.O. Box 308, Anniston, Al. 36202 Phone: 256-237-8501 Fax: 256-238-0474 http://www.anniston.lib.al.us/; Library catalog on-line; Email: [email protected] Hours: M - F 9:00 am - 5:00 pm; Sat 9:00 am - 4:00 pm; Sun 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm Wallace State College (Family and Regional History, College Library) 801 Main Street N.W., PO Box 2000, Hanceville, AL 35077-2000 Phone 256-352-8000 http://www.wallacestatehanceville.edu/; Genealogy library catalog NOT on-line Hours: M-Th 7:30 am - 6:00 pm; Fri 7:30 am - 4:00 pm; Closed Sat & Sun (Summer Hours) Dekalb County Court House Vital Records Office, Dekalb County Clerk, 111 Grand Ave., Suite 200, Fort Payne, Al. 35967 Phone (256) 845-8525 Cherokee County Court House Cherokee County Clerk, Main Street, Centre, Al 35960 Phone (256) 927-3363 DeKalb County Public Library 504 Grand Ave., Ft. Payne, AL 35967 Phone (256) 845-2671 Hours M 10-8; T-F 10-6; Sat. 10-3; closed Sun. No web site, no email Gadsden Public Library Main Branch, 254 College Street, Gadsden, AL 35901 Phone (256) 549-4699 http://www.library.gadsden.com/; Library Catalog On-Line June through August: M - Th 8:00 a.m. - 7:00 p.m.; F - Sat 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.; Sun Closed Sept through May: M - Th 8:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m.; F - Sat 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sun 1:00 p.m. -5:00 p.m. Huntsville-Madison Public Library 915 Monroe Street, Huntsville, AL 35801 Phone: (256)532-5940 | Circulation & Renewals: (256)532-5984 http://www.hpl.lib.al.us/; Library Catalog On-Line; Email [email protected] Hours M - Th 9:00 a.m. - 9:00 p.m. Fri & Sat 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Sun 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. NE Alabama Genealogical Society, PO Box 8268, Gadsden, AL 35902 facility located at: Nichols Memorial Library, 1 Dwight Ave., Gadsden, AL 35902 http://www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/5952; NO on-line catalog Email [email protected] (as of 5/9/2000, not working) Chattanooga-Hamilton County Bicentennial Library 1001 Broad Street, Chattanooga, TN 37402 Telephone (423)-757-5310 http://www.lib.chattanooga.gov; Library Catalog On-Line; E-mail [email protected] Hours Mon - Th 9:00 am - 9:00 pm; Fri & Sat 9:00 am - 6:00 p.m.; Sunday Sept 13 - May 23 2:00 pm - 6:00 pm (closed summer) Chattanooga LDS Family History Center 8119 East Brainerd Rd., Chattanooga, TN Phone: (423) 892-7632 Hours: T 10am-9pm; W-F 10am-2pm; Sat 9am-12pm. http://www.familysearch.org (for all LDS information) Cherokee County Public Library Centre, AL Phone (256) 927-5828 Hours: Guntersville Public Library 1240 O'Brig Rd., Guntersville, AL 35976 Phone 205-571-7595 Email [email protected] Hours: Marshall County Court House Box 540 Ringold Street, Guntersville, AL Etowah County Court House 800 Forrest Avenue, Gadsden 35901 Gadsden LDS Family History Center 2001 Noccalulu Rd. Gadsden, AL 35901 Phone (256) 546-0746 Hours T 8:30 am - 1:30 pm; Th 1:00 pm - 9:00 pm; Sat 8:30 am - 3:30 pm Guntersville LDS Family History Center 4961 Spring Creek Drive, Guntersville, AL 35976 Phone (256) 582-6861 Hours T, Th 9:00 am - 1:00 pm; Weds 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm; Sun 12:00 - 1:00 pm

THANK YOU to everyone who was so kind in sharing their knowledge and "tricks of the trade" on researching in Northeast Alabama. Not only were various facilities recommended, but reasons why and what kinds of records they hold. I thought you might be interested in knowing what places were recommended to me. These are ranked in order with the highest on the top of the list. The Survey Said: Calhoun County Library, Anniston Wallace State Community College, Hanceville Dekalb County Court House, Ft. Payne Cherokee County Court House, Centre Ft. Payne Library, Ft. Payne Gadsden Public Library, Gadsden Huntsville Public Library, Huntsville NE Alabama Genealogical Society Library, Gadsden Chattanooga TN Public Library, Chattanooga, TN Chattanooga LDS Family History Center, Chattanooga, TN Centre Library, Centre Guntersville Library, Guntersville Also, Court Houses for Marshall, Etowah, St. Clair counties and FHC's in Gadsden, Guntersville I have copied all the responses into a MS Word document. If anyone is interested I can email to you so you can see everyone's full response. Thanks again for all the help. Boy, am I going to be busy!! Sandy

Does anyone have access to the AL 1880 census. I'm trying to find a Silas Morgan who should have been in Cherokee Co. at that time. The genealogy library here in Marietta does not have the 1880 AL census. Could someone check for me? I think my husband is descended on his father's side from Silas & Nancy Morgan. Silas moved to Cherokee Co. (the Dixon community?) during the 1870s. His brothers Moses & Charlie also settled there while the rest of the family settled in DeKalb. One of these Morgans had a daughter named or nicknamed Della born around 1880. She probably wouldn't show up in the census though since she might have been born in June of that year. However by the next census in 1900 she was married to a Brooks. I don't know how I'm going to find out which Morgan Della belonged to. Any ideas? Gwen Brooks Marietta, GA

Hello all - I'm planning a trip next month to North East AL - Cherokee, DeKalb, Marshall and Etowah counties area. To get the biggest "bang for my (research/travel) buck," can someone recommend libraries/archives/historical societies, etc. to do research in the area. I'm definitely going to the Gadsden library (I've pulled info from their web site), and want to know where to go in Ft. Payne and Centre. I've thought about going to Birmingham but my traveling partners (read: husband and 9 year old) may shoot me if I drive them around too far! I need: vital recs, burial sites, probate recs, land recs, anything to add "meat" to the family skeleton, and miracles! I've done quite a bit from long-distance, but there's not a lot here in Michigan on Alabama records! My ancestors (LAWSON, SHIRLEY, POOLE) were primarily in DeKalb and Cherokee counties, arriving in the 1840's. My Shirley g-father has documented CW service, and I'm quite sure my Lawson g-pa did too, but haven't confirmed. Thanks for the input. Sandy

I am trying to trace my husband, John's grandparents. Much of this information is based on info that was passed from one relative to another so dates could be off some. His grandfather was John Nathaniel Brooks. He was born July 27, 1861 probably in Cobb Co., GA and died March 2, 1913. His grandmother was Della Ann Morgan. She was born June 17, 1880 and died June 28, 1913. These dates for Della are from a Family Bible and we're not sure of their accuracy. Both John & Della probably died in Cherokee Co. Family history says that Wallace (my husband's father) who was only 3 and his brother(s) were then "taken in" by the Morgans. Probably Della's parents. John Nathaniel first married someone with the last name of Keener? Their children are Anderson Dee, born Feb.,1894 - Georgia Payne, (was Payne her Married name?). Born 1890 and died 1962 in Piedmont, Alabama - and Lillie Elliot (was Elliot her married name?). John and Della had four children. Savannah was born on July 21, 1902 and died April 9, 1907. Julius was born July 1, 1905 and died October 22, 1906. John Thomas, was born September 26, 1907, Wallace Curtis was born June 28, 1910 and died July 8, 1985. Wallace was born in Cherokee County, Alabama, either Boaz or Collinsville. He was named after his Uncle Wallace Morgan.. He was baptisted at Mt. Vernon (Baptist?) by a Rev. Mosely. He married Opal Clara McLeod b. 1919 in DeKalb Co AL. They were married at the home of C. W. Murdock and the marriage was witnessed by a Mr. & Mrs. (?Claud?) Hall June 1938 but we don't know where that was. Their children were Della Joan (dec.), Troy Wallace (dec.), Joyce Elizabeth, Brenda Alvia, Faye Juanita, John Madison, Ricky Lamar & Michael Dennis, all but the last born in Chatooga Co. GA John Thomas married Lydia Croft. Second wife is Vera__?__. Anderson Dee married Georgie Hale on Feb.11, 1916. They had 2 children. Wilburn Anderson Brooks? And Lucille Brooks? 2nd marriage: Daisy Waters and they have a son, Jeffery who was born in 1962. Cousin? - William B. Morgan, born Dec.29, 1884. Cousin? - Dovie Drake Morgan, born April 8, 1889. Other cousins may be Tobe Morgan, Genelle Mitchell, and Melvin Morgan. Melvin is believed to have owned a hardware store in Gadsden, Alabama. Other cousins names may be Conners and Daniels. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who recognizes these families. Gwen Brooks Atlanta, GA

Dear List, Does anyone know if Salem Baptist Church in Bluffton (near Tecumseh, Precinct #3) has records of the burials in the cemetery adjacent to it? When I was there last March researching my ggrandfather William (or Willie) Wood, I noticed that a number of the headstones were either illegible, broken, or even absent. I've checked the published survey of the headstones, but no Wm. Wood is listed. Of course, I don't know if my ggrandfather is actually buried there or not, but it would be the logical place because he lived in nearby Tecumseh. Another question: Could there have been another church nearby with a cemetery, say, in Tecumseh itself, or perhaps Etna, GA, just across the state line? Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Mark in Mobile [email protected]

Posting my brick wall once again in the hopes that someone will link to my RANKIN/RAY Research. Looking for RANKIN ancestors and RAY ancestors for the following families. Joseph C. RANKIN, b. 18 Apr 1816; m. Mary E. GRAHAM High (daughter of Alexander GRAHAMM and Mary Elizabeth LENNON). His descendants are: +(MY LINE) Robert Russell RANKIN (my line): b. 22 Sep 1866, d. 4 Nov 1928; b. Quail Cemetery, Quail, Collingsworth, TX. m(1). Laura E. ATKINSON (daughter of Dr.Thomas Capers ATKINSON and Lydia Rose JOHNSON): b. 10 Mar 1866, Coloma, Cherokee, AL; d. 14 Mar 1898, Denton, TX. (MY LINE) m(2): Virginia Esther "Jennie" RAY (daughter of Teague Hagey RAY, b. 14 Nov 1847, Cherokee County, AL, and Martha Ann JOHNSON, b. 1 Nov 1847; d. 6 Feb 1912): b. 19 Dec 1873, Cherokee County, AL; d. 6 Jun 1950, b. Quail Cemetery, Quail, Collingsworth, TX. +Henry Emma RANKIN: 26 Dec 1868; d. 28 Jan 1932 +Joseph Alexander RANKIN: b. 1871 A) I have reason -- albeit flimsy -- to suspect that Joseph C. RANKIN might be the son of Robert C. RANKIN and Elizabeth "Betsy" AKINS(?) and brother to David Lee RANKIN who married Melvina AKINS (daughter of William AKINS and Elizabeth McCORKLE). Would love to have some verification on this!!! B) Family lore has it that Robert Russell RANKIN was a farmer and itinerant Baptist (?) preacher. His son recalled, prior to his death, that his uncle Joseph Alexander RANKIN, who never married, would come to the farm to help the family with harvest while his father was away "preachin'". I have some pictures of Robert Russell I would be glad to share with anyone interested. C) Teague Hagey RAY appears in the 1850 Cherokee County, AL, census at three years old and as the son of David and Mary J.(?) RAY. His father's occupation is shown to be: "Retailer of liquor". I have a picture of Teague Hagey RAY as a child. D) I also have pictures of Henry Emma "Aunt Emmer" RANKIN and Joseph Alexander RANKIN. Hopefully someone can confirm my information or set me straight? Linda Preston Southern California ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I have been told that I have some relatives buried in Cedar Bluff but I can find no listing of any cemeteries. Does anyone know if there used to be one and if so where is it and is there anyone to get info on it? Was there ever any town by the name of Bailey Switch or Baty Switch near Cedar Bluff? Thanks for any help. Kay

Sharon and List, There are two cemeteries "in" Forney, AL. Old Providence Cemetery on Hwy 411 and Bethel Cemetery on county road 29 (Rock Run Road). Bethel Cemetery is sometimes called Forney Cemetery since there is no connection with Bethel Church. It just happens to be on the hill behind Bethel Church. The two cemeteries are just a few miles apart. Mary Jane Barnes, wife of Andrew J Mobley is buried at Bethel/Forney Cemetery. Decoration Day will be Saturday May 6 at Old Providence and Sunday May 14 at Bethel. Don't forget about Jackson Chapel in Cave Spring. The Mobleys were among the founders and Decoration Day is Sunday May 7. There are still several generations of Mobleys that attend Jackson Chapel. I forget when Decoration Day is at Union Grove at Rock Run, but there are several Mobleys buried there. I have a lot of information on the Mobley Family, if anyone is interested. Doris

Doris and list members, Do you know the name of the cemetary in Forney that Mary Jane Mobley is buried in? I have relatives on my father's side buried at Old Provedence Baptist Church. I was wondering if I might be able to catch both sides in the same cemetary. Also, is anyone researching BEAM,DONATHAN,KEEN,&DAVIS? Any help greatly appriciated.

Decoration Day at Hardman Cemetery is 1st Saturday in June. This cemetery is between Cedar Bluff and the Georgia line. Source: Milton Roe, whose ancestors are buried there. He says only a very few show up. (I talked to him tonight.) Travis Hardin - [email protected] 2405 Springhill Road, NW, Huntsville, AL 35810 Genealogy web page - www.mindspring.com/~travishardin/gen

Can any one tell me some of the Decoration Days in Cherokee Co, AL? I know that at Old Providence Cemetery at Forney it is the Saturday before the 1st Sunday in May. (This year May 6) 2nd Sunday in May is at Bethel Cemetery at Forney. Sometimes called Forney Cemetery. (This year May 14) Some Churches now call it Homecoming, but my parents grew up calling it Decoration Day. Thanks for your help. Doris Estes Robbins

I, too, would like to know about Decoration Day. Specifically, Decoration Day at Salem Baptist in Bluffton (Cherokee Co.). I remember going with my grandmother as a child there. I feel certain it is sometime in May, but have no idea when. Can anyone find out for me? Would really like to go this year. Elaine in Townsend, TN

from the bible of John Finley Reece ( ) mark my notes David Crockett Reece born 5 March 1843 wife Rachel Rebecca (Ruccick) born 8 Nov 1845 married 21 March 1864 children Susan M b 8 Feb 1865 d 25 July 1879 Mary J or I b 2 Sept 1866 (marrried Rbert Whittenberg) Jesse Andrew b 15 Sept 1868 (married Daisy Morris lived in Bham Al then Lynn Haven Fla) Olive Elizabeth b 11 Jan 1871 (Lizzie married a Henderson) Anna E b 30 May 1873 d 27 July 1874 Gertrude Ann b 13 Nov 1875 (Trudie married a Gardner) Rachel R b 11 nov 1877 (Becca) Sintha Lanetta b 16 June 1880 (Nettie m a Rogers) Denis S (female) b 7 July 1882 (married Zack Jones) John F(inley) b 10 Oct 1884 (married Myrta Florence Partridge) William Tomas b 26 June 1887 Larisha Elva b 9 Sept 1889 (Elvie married a Hays) David C Reece born in Alabama married in Seymour Indiana - homesteaded in Missouri and came back to Alabama. David's parents Andrew and Susan Chaney Reece were in 1850 Cherokee Co census both were born in TN. Andrew son of David and Mary Donalson Reece in DeKalb census David born SC and Mary in TN any corrections or additions are welcome - - - Good Hunting Doris Mayer Reece Branchville Alabama

Rick, If you find out, please post it on the list for all to share. I'd like to know also. Thanks, Melba -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: [ALCHEROK] Mexican War troops >Dear list, > >Does anyone know whether Cherokee County supplied any troops for the War with >Mexico, 1846-48? If so, how would I check to see if a specific person was >among them? > >Rick Sherman, Kensington, CA > >

More information on Mississippi History - Enjoy, and feel free to delete if not interested, or pass on if you like. . . . Ginny Walker English Perry, Lamar, Forrest Cos, MSGenWeb Source: Enclyopedia of Mississippi History, Vol. II L-Z, Southern Historical Publishing Association, Comprising Sketches of Counties, Towns, Events, Institutions ad Persons; Planned and edited by Dunbar Rowland, LL. D., Director Mississippi Department of Archives and History; Member American Historical Association, 1907. WAR WITH CREEKS, 1813-14 - MISSISSIPPI TERRITORY The sanguinary struggle known as the Creek War of 1813 and 1814, took place in what is now southern Alabama, but was then the eastern part of Mississippi Territory. It formed, as it were, a stirring side issue to the greater conflict then raging - the War of 1812 between Great Britain and the United States. Begun by the war party of the Creeks in the effort to crush and large and growing settlements of white pioneers along the Tombigbee and Alabama rivers, it developed into a war, almost of extermination, against the Creeks themselves. The Creeks ranked first in military prowess and political sagacity among the tribes of Southern Indians forming the great Choctaw-Muscogee family. Their famous political Confederacy had its origin in remote times, embracing numerous subjugated tribes, as well as fugitive tribes that had applied to the Creek nation for protection. At the time of the war the region embraced by the Creek Confederacy extended from the Oconee River in Georgia to the Alabama River. Indeed, the western members of the Confederacy, the Alibamos, claimed to the banks of the Tombigbee. The country of the Upper Creeks lay along the Coosa and Tallapoosa rivers, and that of the Lower Creeks along the Chattachoochee. Most of the Upper Creek towns (with which are included the Alibamos), were hostile to the Americans, while the Lower Creeks, strongly influenced by the government agent, Col. Hawkins, were for the most part friendly. Before it ended, the war was waged by the Creeks to maintain their homes, their hunting grounds, their burial places and the land of their ancestors, and the Indians fought with a desperation that "has hardly a precedent in Indian contests." For nearly ten months this powerful Confederacy was able to offer a successful resistance to trained American soldiers, and even jeopardized the very existence of the pioneer white settlements along the Mobile, Alabama and Tombigbee rivers. The Creeks appear to have had at this time about fifty towns and some 10,000 members, including the women and children. The white settlements embraced about 2,000 whites, and a nearly equal number of blacks, and were thinly scattered along the western banks of the Mobile and Tombigbee for more than seventy miles, while they extended nearly seventy-five miles upon the eastern borders of the Mobile and Alabama. It is difficult to conceive the almost complete isolat5ion of these white settlements; on their south were the Spaniards; on the east, separating them from Georgia; were the Creeks; on the west was the broad country of the Choctaws, between them and older white settlements at the Natchez and the Yazoo; and on the north were the Creeks and Chickasaws, dividing them from the settlements in the bend of the Tennessee river. Many causes had combined to draw the whites to this region at an early period, and the French, British and Spanish had all made treaties with the Indians which opened up the country. The policy of the United States when it came into control of the Mississippi Territory was sufficiently aggressive. March 28, 1797, Washington made a treaty with the Creeks by which t6he nation ceded lands for government trading posts, and Col. Benjamin Hawkins was shortly after appointed government agent among the Creeks. May 5, 1799, American troops from Natchez, under Lt. John McClary, marched across Mississippi and occupied St. Stephens. A few weeks later, these troops moved south and built Fort Stoddert at Wards Bluff, a few miles above the boundary line between the Spanish province of West Florida and the American territory of Mississippi; it was three miles below the junction of the Alabama and Tombigbee, and about 50 miles above Mobile. In 1802 a treaty was made with the Choctaws and a tract of land was ceded to the United States, which is said to have called forth this protest from "Mad Wolf," a Creek chief: "The people of Tombigbee have put over their cattle in the Fork of the Alibamo hunting grounds and have gone a great way on our lands. I want them put back. WE all know they are Americans." In 1805 some thirty Creek chiefs and warriors, then in Washington, through pressure brought o bear upon them there, had taken on themselves the right to cede the use of a horse path through the Creek country; and the same year the Choctaws, by the treaty of Mt. Dexter, ceded 5,000,000 acres of their land to the united States, which embraced the Creek claim west of the watershed. In 1811, the grant of a "horse path" became the much used Federal Road, which was cut from a point on the Chattahoochee river to Mims' Ferry on the Alabama, and the Creeks were much stirred up by the constant stream of white emigrants moving to the western settlements from the Atlantic seaboard. The white settlements tended to encroach more and more on the Alibamo hunting grounds. In the fall of 1811, or he spring of 1812, came from the North the persuasive and eloquent chief, Tecumseh, to the Creeks assembled at Tookabatcha. Tecumseh was making the grand circuit of the Indian tribes, and he made every effort to induce the Southern Indians to join his great confederacy, urging that "the Creeks could thus recover all the country that the whites had taken from them; and what the British would protect them in their rights." His efforts, followed by those of his prophet emissaries, aroused a war spirit among the Creeks before which the friendly Indians fled for safety. The great trade center of the Spaniards was at Pensacola; they looked with growing disfavor on these river settlements. The Indians were constantly coming and going among them, and the Spaniards took great pains to stir them to further discontent. After the War of 1812, the British exerted all their influence to provoke the Indians to hostilities. The great exciting cause of the Creek war is thus seen to be "the large and growing settlements of white pioneers along the Tombigbee and the Alabama rivers. Encroachments upon the Indian hunting grounds and rights were of necessity made. The great wagon road was an encroachment; the presence of so many white families with their cattle and hogs and horses was an encroachment. It needed not Tecumseh's stirring words to assure them that they must before long give up their Indian life, cultivate the ground, and accept the white man's civilization; or they must migrate; or they must break up this settlement of sturdy frontier families on their western borders. Their proposed attempt thus to do, encouraged by the Spaniards, by Tecumseh and the British, brought on the disastrous Creek War." (The Creek War, Halbert and Ball.) It is in evidence that the Creeks, in July 1813, endeavored to persuade the Choctaws at Pushmataha (in present Choctaw County, Alabama), to join them in a war against the whites, but were unsuccessful, as Tecumseh had been before them. The white were aware of the growing war spirit, and were further alarmed by occasional outrages perpetrated by the Indians against white settlers, such as the abduction of Mrs. Crawley from her home near the mouth of the Tennessee river and afterwards bravely rescued by "the daring backwoodsman," Tandy Walker, and brought to St. Stephens. Alarmed by the rising war cloud, the settlers on the Mobile and Tensaw and the Alabama and Tombigbee, hastily improvised a line of stockades or forts, which stretched across the neck of Clarke county from river to river. Altogether there were in the summer of 1813 some twenty of these so-called forts, including those erected at an earlier day such as Fort St. Stephens, Fort Stoddert, Fort Madison and the two forts and U. S. arsenal at Mount Vernon. Farther west, in what is now Wayne County, miss., were also Patton's Fort at Winchester and Roger's Fort, six miles above. Gen. Wilkinson and a force of United States troops had captured Mobile in April and a force of United States troops had captured Mobile in April 1813 and here was the fine old Fort Charlotte, built by the French and now manned by an American garrison; also the new Fort Bowyer, built by the Americans at the mouth of the Mobile Bay. As the alarm spread, plantations were deserted, and refugees filled the forts. Ill-fated Fort Mims was situated on the east side of the Alabama, a short distance below the "cut off," and about a quarter of a mile from the Tensaw boat Yard. According to the historian Pickett, there were in this fort or stockade in August 1813, 553 human beings, made up of white settlers, a few Spaniards, colored people, and half-breeds; of these 265 were soldiers, including 70 home militia commanded by Capt. Dixon Bailey, a detachment from Mount Vernon under Lieut. Osborn, and 175 Mississippi volunteers under Major Daniel Beasley. Major Beasley was in general command of the fort. General F. L. Claiborne, with a force of regulars, was in command at Fort Stoddert and Mount Vernon; Col. Joseph Carson was the military commander between the Tombigbee and Alabama; Col. James Caller, of Washington county, was the senior militia officer on the frontier; Gen. Wilkinson had been ordered to the Canadian border, and Gen. Flournoy succeeded him in general command of the Southwest at Mobile and New Orleans. In July 1813, news came that a force of hostile Creeks led by Peter McQueen had gone to Pensacola to obtain arms and ammunition from Governor Manique. On receipt of this information, Col. Caller, at St. Stephens, raised a force of about 180 militia, mounted and armed, and intercepted the Indians, or at least a portion of them, at Burnt Corn on July 27. The whites were poorly organized and disciplined, and though they surprised the Indians and gained an initial success, they were ultimately routed with loss and completely dispersed. The worst feature of this first battle was the loss of white prestige which followed, and it was at once followed by more serious depredations on the part of the Indians, including the terrible massacre at Fort Mims. It is only fair to say that neither Col. Hawkins, the government agent living among the Creeks, nor Gen. Flournoy, who was doubtless, influenced by the former, believed that the war party in the Creek nation would prevail. Hence we even find Flournoy writing Gen. Claiborne August 10, 1813, after the Fort Mims' affair, "You wish to penetrate into the Indian country, with a view of commencing the war, does not meet my approbation, and I again repeat, our operations must be confined to defensive measures." It is the belief of many candid historians such as Halbert, that strict adherence to the policy of Gen. Flournoy, would have prevented the disasters at Burnt Corn and Fort Mims, and very possibly have prevented a serious war at all. Says Brewer: "The savages highly incensed at the attack on them at Burnt Corner, July 27, 1813, resolved to avenge themselves on the Tensaw and Tombigbee settlers." Thus one vengeance succeeded another. The following account of the events succeeding Burnt Corn is abridged from Hamilton's excellent chapter on the Creek War: "It was at noon on the 30th of August, while dancing was going on; and a Negro was about to be whipped for giving what was deemed a false alarm of Indians coming, that McQueen and Weatherford and their thousand savages dashed through the open gate of the palisade surrounding the house of Samuel Mims on the Tensaw. Major Beasley redeemed his carelessness by dying sword in hand, and the noble half-breed Dixon bravely led on the whites in defense of the women and children. But the odds were too great, and at least fire aided the butchery by the savages. Even Bailey was mortally wounded, and hardly two dozen escaped of the five hundred and fifty men, women, and children in that stockaded acre of ground. God's acre it was, for, when a relief corps came, it was only to find ashes, and mangled and burning dead. Neighboring Fort Pierce was abandoned during the battle and Lieutenant Montgomery led its people to Mobile; while, among other fugitives from Fort Mims, David Tate and some of his family escaped with the two Pierces on a flatboat down to Fort Stoddert." The tragedy enacted at Fort Mims aroused the whole country and steps were at once taken to invade the Creek country from the north, west and east, and with the purpose of annihilating the Creeks as a nation. Chiefly through the efforts of Capt. George S. Gaines and Col. McKee, the friendly cooperation of the Choctaws and Chickasaws was secured, and a battalion of about 150 Choctaw warriors, under Pushmataha, fought with Gen. Claiborne at the Holy Ground. Later in the war, another force of 43 warriors, commanded by Pushmataha, with Moshulitubbee as second in command, formed part of Maj. Blue's detachment, and materially aided in bringing the war to a close; indeed, the whole record of the Choctaw warriors throughout the war was an honorable one and showed the nation was truly loyal to the United States. Inflamed by the news from Fort Mims, Andrew Jackson and his brigade of mounted volunteers came down from Nashville, Tenn., and joined by Cherokees, and friendly Creeks, "captured Tallesehatche, founded Fort Strother, and on Nov. 9 (1813) won the battle of Talladega . . . From the east, too, the Georgians under Floyd defeated the Creeks at Autose, but had to retire from lack of provisions. General Claiborne fortunately construed the "defense of mobile" broadly, and in November 1813, from the west he also marched into enemy territory. Above the site of the Canoe fight (where Nov. 12, 1813 Sam Dale, Jeremiah Austill and James Smith engaged in their daring hand to hand conflict with nine Indians and slew them one by one), Fort Claiborne at Weatherford's Bluff was built as a base of supplies, and his square fort can still be traced on the bluff of the Alabama river. His objective was Econachaca, the Holy Ground, on a bluff of the Alabama in what is now Lowndes County. It had been built by Weatherford as a place of safety, where plunder was secured and white prisoners burned. Impregnable, the prophets said, but Claiborne stormed in on December 23, and drove into the water those savages who were not killed outright, for there was little quarter in this war. Weatherford himself fled, and with characteristic daring leaped his gray horse Arrow over into the river. The town was burned to the ground, after the army reserved some supplies and the plunder had been turned over to Pushmataha." This battle practically ended the participation of the Mississippi twelve months' volunteers in the Creek war, as their term of service hand ended, and Claiborne's army soon disbanded. It is not our purpose here to trace in detail the closing scenes of the war. Suffice it to say that the country of the creeks was overrun and devastated form three directions by forces from the north, east, and west. Though the Creeks fought with the courage of desperation, the struggle was too one sided and could not long endure. The great decisive battle was fought at the Horseshoe Bend of the Tallapoosa river March 27, 1814, between Jackson and his Cherokee allies, and some twelve hundred Creeks gathered here for a final stand. The battle was little more than a slaughter, and barely two hundred Creek warriors escaped alive, while the loss to the American troops was nominal. The final treaty of peace was not concluded, however, until August 9, 1814, between Jackson and the defeated Creeks. In this treaty they surrendered to the United States all their lands, except the part east of the Coosa River and of a line drawn southeastwardly from Fort Jackson (the old French Toulouse); the Creeks were forbidden all communication with British or Spanish posts; and the United States were given the right to establish military posts, roads and free navigation of waters within the territory guaranteed the Creeks. The war was fatal to the Creeks, and their formidable strength was forever broken. Source: Enclyopedia of Mississippi History, Vol. II L-Z, Southern Historical Publishing Association, Comprising Sketches of Counties, Towns, Events, Institutions ad Persons; Planned and edited by Dunbar Rowland, LL. D., Director Mississippi Department of Archives and History; Member American Historical Association, 1907.