Cherokee Co. Researchers: Dear Researchers: Stop by the chat room or forum and find some help for your genealogy research this weekend: Saturday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm ALL DAY--Genealogy "Open House"--all states; any surname 7 pm Eastern--NORTHERN STATES genealogy 8 pm Eastern--SOUTHERN STATES genealogy 9-11 pm Eastern--CIVIL WAR genealogy Sunday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm ALL DAY--Genealogy "Open House"--all states; any surname 7 pm Eastern--All Surnames starting with A-J (any state) 8 pm Eastern--All Surnames starting K-Z (any state) 9 pm Eastern--WISCONSIN genealogy 10 pm Eastern--GREAT BRITAIN genealogy Monday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm 10-11 am Eastern--all states EAST of the MISSISSIPPI RIVER 1-3 pm Eastern--MID-WESTERN STATES 8 pm Eastern--ODD MIDDLE NAMES 9 pm Eastern--ROBERTS surname chat 10 pm Eastern--ALABAMA genealogy (any surname) 11 pm Eastern--GENEALOGY RESEARCH HINTS & QUESTIONS If you can't make the chats, stop by the forum and post your surname queries and research questions--all states welcome! http://about.delphi.com/ab-huntsville If you need instructions for the chat room or the forum or would like to receive daily updates on the chat room schedule, please write and I'll be happy to help you. Jean Brandau [email protected]

Does anyone have the 1870 0r 1880 census? I'd like to check for James Marion Smith born 1849. I think he had 4 children Bertha, Alford, Cass and William. Thank you JaNelle

Mountain Springs Cemetery is located in Cherokee County. I can't find the name of the road it is on but it is located south of Pope (1+ miles), east of Pine Grove (4 miles) and about 1 mile west of Route 9. Hope this helps in your search. Debbie Chauncey Barnes Webster, NY In a message dated 7/17/00 9:00:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:44:43 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: [ALCHEROK] Mountain Spring Cemetery Could some give me the location of Mountain Spring Cemetery near Piedmont. Jerry B. >>

Does anyone have a copy of the 1850 census and not mind looking up the family of Hampton Fuller? Thanks. Barry Fox Greenville, SC

Hi, Alabama Researchers: Please join us tonight for an ALABAMA genealogy chat covering the whole state, all counties. Monday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm (subtract 1 hr. for Central; 2 hrs. for Mt.; 3 hrs. for Pacific) 10-11 am Eastern--all states East of the MISSISSIPPI RIVER (genealogy) 1-3 pm Eastern--MID-WESTERN STATES 8 pm Eastern--ODD MIDDLE NAMES (genealogy) 9 pm Eastern--ROBERTS family surname 10 pm Eastern--ALABAMA genealogy 11 pm Eastern--GENEALOGY RESEARCH HINTS & QUESTIONS If you miss the chat, post your query in the forum: http://about.delphi.com/ab-huntsville If you've never been in a chat room and need instructions, just write me and I'll send you step-by-step instructions. Jean Brandau [email protected]

does anyone know the relationship of Francis Norris 17 m listed in the 1850 census in the home of Andrew and Susan (Chaney) REECE thanks doris mayer reece

Could some give me the location of Mountain Spring Cemetery near Piedmont. Jerry B.

Hi, Cherokee Researchers: Won't you join us? Great chance to find your missing ancestors! Saturday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm ALL DAY--Genealogy "Open House"--all states; any surname 7 pm Eastern--NORTHERN STATES genealogy 8 pm Eastern--SOUTHERN STATES genealogy 9-11 pm Eastern--CIVIL WAR genealogy Sunday Chats: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm ALL DAY--Genealogy "Open House"--all states; any surname 7 pm Eastern--All Surnames starting with A-J (any state) 8 pm Eastern--All Surnames starting K-Z (any state) 9 pm Eastern--WISCONSIN genealogy 10 pm Eastern--GREAT BRITAIN genealogy Everyone is welcome! If you miss a chat......stop by the forum and post your surname queries or research questions and browse the board for messages of interest to you. Lots of action there. http://about.delphi.com/ab-huntsville If you need instructions for the chat room or the forum, write to me and I'll help you. If you'd like to be on our master chat list, let me know. Jean Brandau [email protected]

Looking for info or descendants of Thomas B. Gipson, b. 1847-1852, d. 1918. Listed in 1880 Cherokee census (w) Molly (Littleton), (ch) Emma; Dora (Beck); Anna; Ora (Edwards). In 1900 census (w) Susan (Owens-Hert), (ch) Marietta Hert - step daug.; Susan D. (Cleveland); Martha P. (Beck); Thomas H. In 1910 census added Orbie L. I believe most lived in Cherokee and DeKalb Co. Looking for parents of Thomas and info on his siblings. If you are related to or have any info on any of these people please contact me. I would appreciate any and all info. Linda (Gipson) Dean [email protected]

� Here is a list of the Hite line I am looking for.� I believe Francis R. might be Rebecca aka Becky.� I know they had a daughter that went by the name Becky as she was my grandfathers mother.� He and his sister Lorena were enumerated with Andrew on teh 1900 census of Cherokee Co Alabama.� Becky died when he was a child and they raised both Lorena and him.� I have no paper trail on Gene at all.� Some say he lived and died near or in Birmingham.��� Any help appreciated.� Thank you, Merry Ann � Generation No. 1 1. ANDREW1 HITE1 was born 1852 in georgia1. He married NANCY M.1. She was born 1852 in georgia1. Children of ANDREW HITE and NANCY M. are: i. FRANCIS R.2 HITE1, b. 1876, georgia1. ii. JAMES M. HITE1, b. 1878, georgia1. iii. THOMAS E. HITE1, b. 18821. iv. NANCY1, b. 19001. 2. v. REBECCA HITE, b. georgia. � Generation No. 2 2. REBECCA2 HITE (ANDREW1)1 was born in georgia1. She married GENE WESTBROOKS1, son of JOHN WESTBROOKS and MARGARET REAVES. Children of REBECCA HITE and GENE WESTBROOKS are: i. OSCAR THOMAS3 WESTBROOKS1,2, b. December 16, 1893, fornia alabama3; d. Birmingham Alabama3; m. SAMANTHA NOVELLA MASON3,4; b. June 06, 1899, Cardiff Alabama5; d. , Died At Home5. ii. LORENA WESTBROOKS5, b. June 22, 1896; d. February 1972, rome Georgia, Floyd County; m. UNKNOWN MOLOCK. More About LORENA WESTBROOKS: Social Security Number: 260368651 � � � -- ������ �

Looking for additional information on Byler Love or David Love or Hiram Wilcox families who lived in Cherokee County 1840-1880 Mary Harkey Russell [email protected]

Andrew REECE son of David and Mary "Polly" Donalson REECE married Susan Chaney in TN. They moved to the 'free' land in Alabama when son William was very young. Andy was in Cherokee Co for several years before moving to DeKalb Co near his parents. There was a Francis NORRIS 16 born in TN living with them in the 1850 census - don't know the connection to family Doris Mayer Reece married into the REECE clan

Benjamin Franklin WATTS, jr. was born in Cherokee County in 1842. I have nothing on his parents except that his father was Benjamin Franklin ,sr. The 1850 index lists WATTS on page 27bB-132A-145A. I am hoping one of these is the household I'm looking for. Does anyone have access to the 1850 census who would be willing to look this up for me? thank you, Tammy Cox

I am looking for Thomas Spencer Freeman and his wife Callie or Calley I know he was born in Alabama in August of 1832. I am taking a leap here that he may be the Freeman on page 73B of the 1850 census. He moved to Texas after the War between the States and all of his children were born there. He is my G-Grandfather . I believe they came from Cherokee County because the other G-Grandfather came from Cherokee County. He was Benjamin Franklin Watts. Any information would be helpful. thank you, Tammy Cox

I just got back from a short trip to Centre, AL to visit the grave sites of my great-grandparents at Hebron United Methodist Church outside of Centre on 411. Its a beautiful city and the little church and graveyard were so well kept. Does anyone have any information on Coffia's of that area. My ggrandparents names were Joseph Cevere Coffia and Georgia Lussie Jenkins Coffia. Her mother was Nancy Elizabeth Jenkins. Any information would be greatly appreciated. At this time, they are a real brick wall. Thanks, Susan Craft ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Marlene; I really don't know either, but I believe the Dawes Rolls consisted, at least in part, of past recorded data. Not knowing which tribal affiliation to go with certainly doesn't make it any easier either. I really don't know much about the tribes but I pick up a little here and a little more elsewhere. One really can get an education from some of the mailing lists. If the tribe had a written language, there would probably be records of the marriage, etc at the tribal headquarters - or whatever it is called. Some of this, if Indian Agents were mixed up in it, probably is recorded at the Bureau of Indian Affairs are their archives and maybe stored in one of the National Archives around the country. Have you contacted the OKBRYAN-L or any other OK Lists about this. They seem to have quite a few people on them that know a lot about this sort of thing. Here's hoping you get lucky quick and get a hot lead. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls : Jerry wrote: : >Cherokee Co, AL was not formed until 1836. Prior to then it was Cherokee : Indian territory. The information may be in any of the the surrounding : counties (AL & GA) or in a Federal Archive or other Federal Repository. If : the wife/mother was Indian there is a very good possibility that she is : listed in the Dawes Rolls or other Cherokee Indian records. : : : Thanks Jerry, : The daughter, Margaret, is on the Dawes Roll, but she just has her mother as : Susan Hall - not her maiden name. The Dawes Roll was done 1898-1902 and : both Wm. & Susan Hall had been dead long before that. I even thought that : maybe Susan was Cherokee and have written experts on that. I thought she : may have claimed to be Choctaw as they moved into the area where most of the : Indians were Choctaw. : : I do not even have an idea as to what Federal Archive to look into. : : Marlene : :

Jeannette, You mentioned Halls from Rome, Ga.; do you have an Ezekiel A. Hall b. 1830; m. Mary Andrews, b. 1821. Ezekiel was a Babtist Preacher and died in the Civil War. I have found no reference to him on any rosters; I don't know if he was a civilian casualty or what. I have 2 sons listed for him, my great grandfather, James Asbury Hall, b. Aug. 26, 1849, and David Hall (no dates). Son, James was born in Calhoun County, Alabama. James A. Hall m. on Oct. 1, 1882 to Martha Ann Malinda Vanilla Canant John Chandler, in Cherokee Co. Alabama. their children: Charlie Taylor Asbury Hall, Mary Ida Hall, Amanda Evergreen (Evie) Hall, my grandmother, Lena Estella Hall, Emma Malinda Hall, Doshia Elsie Hall. Brother David Hall m. JoAnna (?); their children : Gus Hall, Amos Hall, Willie Hall, Vanilla Hall. My great grandparents lived and died in DeKalb County, Alabama. The ages of my gg grandmother was determined from the census information. All the information on Ezekiel was passed from a cousin, then on down. In one reference the cousin wrote he was born in Ala. and in another, Ga. Any help or ideas are appreciated. Thank you , Sandy Garrett Owsley

Marlene, My earliest documented Hall ancestor is Drury R.Hall, who was born in SC in 1790, he, his wife and seven sons moved to Ga. in 1848. They moved from the Old Pendelton/Anderson area. I have been researching for almost 30 years, trying to establish who Drury's parents were, can't document. However, this is what I believe, I believe that he is descended from a George and Jane Hall, who arrived in Charleston, December, 1767. Jane was 27, George-26, John was 3 and Wm. was 7. They sailed from Ireland and received land grant in upper SC. I think that my Drury is the son of either that John or Wm. My Drury settled on two land lots in Murray County (Chatsworth), Ga. I believe those land lots were grants for Rev. War Service of a Wm. Hall, that land would have been in the former Cherokee County. My grandfather, Albert Lee Hall, told me many years ago that the Halls were from County Down (Belfast), now Northern Ireland. I have researched in N. Ireland, too. A historian there told me that the ship that those Halls arrived on in 1767 was one of three that were carrying people from Larne, Ballyamena and Portrush, they were Covenant Presbyterians, and were leaving because of religious persecution. I have hired professional genealogist in SC, who was no help at all. He just made scads of copies of records on a family that I had already told him that they were not my family. I tried the Ulster Historical Society in Belfast and they informed me that their early records had been destroyed and that my best bet would be point of entry into US. Again, I have no proof past Drury! I keep hoping that someday someone from SC will contact me regarding Drury. If I am ever able to document anything past Drury, I'll share it with you. Cherokee County, Ala. is in northern Alabama, not very far from Rome, Ga. Some of the SC Halls settled in Rome, too. Jeannette [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > ALCHEROK-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 59 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["Marlene Clark" <[email protected]] > #2 [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["Marlene Clark" <[email protected]] > #3 Re: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["origfatdac" <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ALCHEROK-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > If you have any questions or problems contact: > D. Scott Dingler Listowner Email: [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:50:51 -0500 > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I have an ancestor that says she was born in Cherokee Co., Oct. 6, 1820. > Her name was Margaret Hall d/o Wm. Hall & Susan ??? > > Does anyone have any idea as to where I might check there in that time > frame? He was suppose to be from Ireland and she was Indian. > > "Any" help will be appreciated. > > Marlene > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:56:59 -0500 > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Really, I am looking for almost anything on Wm. Hall. He was born 1793 and > one daughter, Margaret, on the 1910 Census, said he was from Ireland and > that she was born in Cherokee Co., AL in 1820. She had an Indian mother by > the name of Susan ??? They "may" have later moved to Sumter Co. and he > "may" be the one that claimed to be a "mixedblood" in order to remain in AL > after the 1830 Treaty with the Indians. I have no proof of anything beyond > approx. 1838 when he was in Skullyville, OK when the Indians moved West. I > do not know if he was from Ireland or if he was part Indian. > > I found it much easier to find my James Smith in the 1700's than Wm. Hall in > the 1800's. One has no idea as to many Wm. Halls received land in AL in the > same time frame - much less how many entered this country about the same > time. I have tried the LDS records and every other site I could find. I do > believe there are more Halls than Smiths in this country. I have seen some > information written on this family, but entirely without proof. > > I am not familiar with that part of AL as to what records there may be. If > anyone knows of a good researcher in that area, I would love to have their > name. They do not have to be a "professional" genealogist. I would love to > know the grandparents of Margaret Hall or anything about the family. I have > spent much time in libraries and court houses, but cannot do much of that > any more. > > Marlene > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:58:55 -0400 > From: "origfatdac" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Marlene; > > Cherokee Co, AL was not formed until 1836. Prior to then it was Cherokee > Indian territory. The information may be in any of the the surrounding > counties (AL & GA) or in a Federal Archive or other Federal Repository. If > the wife/mother was Indian there is a very good possibility that she is > listed in the Dawes Rolls or other Cherokee Indian records. > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:50 AM > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > > : I have an ancestor that says she was born in Cherokee Co., Oct. 6, 1820. > : Her name was Margaret Hall d/o Wm. Hall & Susan ??? > : > : Does anyone have any idea as to where I might check there in that time > : frame? He was suppose to be from Ireland and she was Indian. > : > : "Any" help will be appreciated. > : > : Marlene > :

Marlene, I have: ELIZABETH CADDEL. :d. Unknown m. 1 Nov 1821, St Clair CO., AL Elijah Hall :b.ca 1795, place unknown ELIZABETH CADDEL, daughter of John Calvin and Mary (Jay) CADDEL, was born (1799) in Rutherford County, NC, raised in Pendleton District, SC, and moved to St. Clair County, AL by 1820. Her father was born in Orange/Caswell/Person Co., NC area in 1775. However, do not know anything about the HALL family. There are several on this and St Clair County List that research HALL. Bill Caddell [email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > ALCHEROK-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 59 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["Marlene Clark" <[email protected]] > #2 [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["Marlene Clark" <[email protected]] > #3 Re: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls ["origfatdac" <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from ALCHEROK-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > If you have any questions or problems contact: > D. Scott Dingler Listowner Email: [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:50:51 -0500 > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I have an ancestor that says she was born in Cherokee Co., Oct. 6, 1820. > Her name was Margaret Hall d/o Wm. Hall & Susan ??? > > Does anyone have any idea as to where I might check there in that time > frame? He was suppose to be from Ireland and she was Indian. > > "Any" help will be appreciated. > > Marlene > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:56:59 -0500 > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected].com> > To: [email protected] > > Really, I am looking for almost anything on Wm. Hall. He was born 1793 and > one daughter, Margaret, on the 1910 Census, said he was from Ireland and > that she was born in Cherokee Co., AL in 1820. She had an Indian mother by > the name of Susan ??? They "may" have later moved to Sumter Co. and he > "may" be the one that claimed to be a "mixedblood" in order to remain in AL > after the 1830 Treaty with the Indians. I have no proof of anything beyond > approx. 1838 when he was in Skullyville, OK when the Indians moved West. I > do not know if he was from Ireland or if he was part Indian. > > I found it much easier to find my James Smith in the 1700's than Wm. Hall in > the 1800's. One has no idea as to many Wm. Halls received land in AL in the > same time frame - much less how many entered this country about the same > time. I have tried the LDS records and every other site I could find. I do > believe there are more Halls than Smiths in this country. I have seen some > information written on this family, but entirely without proof. > > I am not familiar with that part of AL as to what records there may be. If > anyone knows of a good researcher in that area, I would love to have their > name. They do not have to be a "professional" genealogist. I would love to > know the grandparents of Margaret Hall or anything about the family. I have > spent much time in libraries and court houses, but cannot do much of that > any more. > > Marlene > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:58:55 -0400 > From: "origfatdac" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Marlene; > > Cherokee Co, AL was not formed until 1836. Prior to then it was Cherokee > Indian territory. The information may be in any of the the surrounding > counties (AL & GA) or in a Federal Archive or other Federal Repository. If > the wife/mother was Indian there is a very good possibility that she is > listed in the Dawes Rolls or other Cherokee Indian records. > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marlene Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:50 AM > Subject: [ALCHEROK] Re: Halls > > : I have an ancestor that says she was born in Cherokee Co., Oct. 6, 1820. > : Her name was Margaret Hall d/o Wm. Hall & Susan ??? > : > : Does anyone have any idea as to where I might check there in that time > : frame? He was suppose to be from Ireland and she was Indian. > : > : "Any" help will be appreciated. > : > : Marlene > :

Jerry wrote: >Cherokee Co, AL was not formed until 1836. Prior to then it was Cherokee Indian territory. The information may be in any of the the surrounding counties (AL & GA) or in a Federal Archive or other Federal Repository. If the wife/mother was Indian there is a very good possibility that she is listed in the Dawes Rolls or other Cherokee Indian records. Thanks Jerry, The daughter, Margaret, is on the Dawes Roll, but she just has her mother as Susan Hall - not her maiden name. The Dawes Roll was done 1898-1902 and both Wm. & Susan Hall had been dead long before that. I even thought that maybe Susan was Cherokee and have written experts on that. I thought she may have claimed to be Choctaw as they moved into the area where most of the Indians were Choctaw. I do not even have an idea as to what Federal Archive to look into. Marlene