I thought I'd share what little information I have of my Indian heritage. Other than my grandmother and older adults having been told how we are part indian through my grandmother's mother side, but no one ever told them how because of course in the south " grown fold never talked over chillin" !! Through researching my grandmother's family, the eldest member to date is Francis Cope who was born in Ga. My grandmother and the older family members remember Peter looked at least 1/2 Indian and my cousing Elizabeth remembers him taking her to some Indian either reservation areas in the now Bullock county area of Alabama. My hunch is Peter's mother was full Indian other than her name ?Lucy Bailey or Guilay as it appears on the 1870 census, there were no other afro american families in this area. Any leads similar to this name for this area is most appreciated. I have listed my compiled family names from 1820's - 1880. 1st Gen. 2nd Gen A. Francis Cope A1. MaryCope A2I Dock Cope ?B. Pinkey Cope A2. Doctor Marshall Cope A2II Mary Cope ?C. Winifred Cope A3. Ann Bird A2III Peter Cope A4. Mary Benson A3I Ella Bird A3I Ella Bird

In response to Delbra's suggestion for names - My GGGGG-Father was Arthur SIZEMORE. He married Mary Bailey, daughter of a Creek Indian in what is now Baldwin Co. Very few of these ancestors of ours were allowed to keep their land after the Creek Indian War. Many of them who were not shipped to Oklahoma eventually migrated upward in AL through other counties. Their story is to be found on a number of websites (besides all the historical books written about them.) I would like to suggest one website: http://www.gulftel.com/~nobles/hathcock.htm. They have a number of census records online and you might find your surname there. Another great site with tons of links to more information is: http:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/6247/links.htm#anchor1155150. This is Carol Middleton's site and she also hosts a mailing list devoted to the Creek Indian researchers on rootsweb. I hope these are helpful to some looking for Native American ancestors in other counties. Evelyn Sizemore Leslie

Because research of one's indian ancestry is VERY DIFFICULT, can someone share some surnames of those of them living in the Bullock, Pike, Macon, Barbour and Montgomery areas. Maybe we can link ourselves to them through their marriages. delbra

In a message dated 7/6/99 9:05:25 PM, delbra@frontiernet.net writes: << can someone share some surnames of those of them living in the Bullock, Pike, Macon, Barbour and Montgomery areas. >> Here's mine: My Native ancestor--my gggrandmother--was Sally LENNARD (also spelled Sallie LEONARD). Sally married Olin SPEED (a mulatto or other mixed lineage), Jan/Feb 1884, in Hannon, Macon Co., AL. She and Olin lived for a time in Hannon, in the community called Speed Chapel, on Speed-owned land; but, she and Olin may have spent some years in Tuskegee. According to one census record, Sally was born in GA... don't know the county. I know that as an adult, when she and Olin weren't getting along, she went to live with her mother (and other relatives?) in Pensacola, FL. It was always said in family lore that Sally was Cherokee, but I believe she may have been Creek. She was a heavy smoker, who died relatively young, probably in Florida. She was brought back to Macon County and is supposedly buried at Fort Hull cemetary in the county. I have not learned anything more about Sally and would love to know who her parents were, her siblings, where she was born or any other information that would help me to learn about this ancestor. Any clues will be greatly appreciated. Annette Researching: HARPER, SPEED, GREEN/GREENE, LENNARD/LEONARD, TARVER, KROUSE, BESTEDA(ER), LANE and a few other allied families, found mostly in AL counties.

Delbra and List, That's a Great idea! I would like to volunteer FREE image posting on my geneaology web site (URL address is: http://www.gentime.com/genealogy/index.html and would be glad to post any scanned images that anyone wishes to send as an attachment. I already have a GALLERY area built in the site. I run the site myself, it is free and there is no cost to anyone. It's just something I like to do. So, this could be a general place where peole could go to view images. If anyone would like to do this, but is unsure about scanning etc. they can alsways email me and and I would be glad to help them. Sincerely, Cindy Sims Kirkland >I just got a WONDERFUL idea from having read messages from one of the >other lists I subscribe to. > >I seems everyone is trying to find their ancestors and especially PHOTOS >of such. It would be wonderful to be able to view photos of people living >in the towns and counties we are trying to find. Everyone always takes >pictures that include people no one is able to identify. If someone would >be willing to scan and lists all old photos (especially 1800's - early >1900's era), then maybe we can print them out and ask our family members >if they are able to identify them. I don't think it would be too >difficult, but just who would be willing to do so. Maybe the Historical >and Genealogical societies in these towns could do this or even the >libraries that are local. I personally am trying to find a photo of my >grandmother's parents of whom her mother died when she was only 16 years >old and her father died in the 1850's. None of my family members have >pictures of them. My quest is to be able to present my grandmother with a >picture of her parents. Then all of this work would n! >ot be in vain. delbra > > >uld = >not be in vain. delbra > >______________________________ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit my web site, GenTime.com: http://www.gentime.com/index.html and GenTime Genealogy http://www.gentime.com/genealogy/index.html Antiques, Collectibles, Vintage Jewelry http://www.gentime.com/poetryrose/index.html My specific research includes these Genealogy lines: Sims 1,Vinson, Wright, Bottoms, Hartsfield, Wilmot,Nichols, Hamlin) SC>GA>AL Sims 2, Hilson, Odom, Austin, Hill, Ashburn, Forsyth,Falconer, Symes) VA>NC>SC>GA>AL. This line possibly originates in:Dorset, Somerset, Devon, GB Bradberry, O'Neal/O'Neill, Cogdell, Gilmore, Barksdale,Harvey, Burnley, Terrell, Randolph) GA>AL O'Neal/O'Neill, Bradberry, Sellers, Smilie, Raiford,McMillen/McMillin, Frizzell, Ellis, Edwards) GA>AL Kirkland,Singleton, Kellum, Tabor, Kuykendall,Hartfield)SC>TN>GA>AL>MS>LA>TX Singleton, Kirkland, Major) MO>TX

They were a number of persons having responded to my suggestion of photos of unidentified persons. It seems to me the best way to organize such a task, is to at least list the photos by the county, possible Town, and maybe even list who had the picture in their possession. Because photos are passed down from generation to generation, a person may not be able to link themselves to the face of the photo, but maybe the carrier of the picture will have a greater significance to the person trying to identify the individuals in the picture especially for the town they are researching. My family relocated to the North in the early 60's. Of course the older adults have wonderful memories to share about their childhood, but I can't possibly put a face on any of the persons they are speaking of. Only until I traveled to Alabama was I able to understand and even relate to their memories. Imagine trying to do so with families that grew up in the late 1800's - early 1900's. I am not a scholar to all of the computer servers and how they work, but if someone truly wants to help the genealogical process, it seems other than the internet, this could truly help everyone. delbra could truly help everyone. delbra

They were a number of persons having responded to my suggestion of photos of unidentified persons. It seems to me the best way to organize such a task, is to at least list the photos by the county, possible Town, and maybe even list who had the picture in their possession. Because photos are passed down from generation to generation, a person may not be able to link themselves to the face of the photo, but maybe the carrier of the picture will have a greater significance to the person trying to identify the individuals in the picture especially for the town they are researching. My family relocated to the North in the early 60's. Of course the older adults have wonderful memories to share about their childhood, but I can't possibly put a face on any of the persons they are speaking of. Only until I traveled to Alabama was I able to understand and even relate to their memories. Imagine trying to do so with families that grew up in the late 1800's - early 1900's. I am not a scholar to all of the computer servers and how they work, but if someone truly wants to help the genealogical process, it seems other than the internet, this could truly help everyone. delbra ld truly help everyone. delbra

Published in the Pike County Estate book created by the Historical and Genealogical Society "As of January 11, 1853, the minors (Marguerrite Matilda, Moses B. Phillips and Sophia Jane Phillips all teenagers) had received money from hire of their slaves in 1851 and 1852 and also had received cash from the estate of Moses Brinson [?], deceased of Ga. I am struggling trying to understand the relations ship of Moses Brinson to the Phillips children. The children's deceased father was Benjamin Phillips. They were all born in Georgia and then relocated to Alabama. Also amongst them is William Bullard and his wife and children who too were born in Georgia and relocated to Alabama. Any clues or information would be greatly appreciated. delbra ciated. delbra

I just got a WONDERFUL idea from having read messages from one of the other lists I subscribe to. I seems everyone is trying to find their ancestors and especially PHOTOS of such. It would be wonderful to be able to view photos of people living in the towns and counties we are trying to find. Everyone always takes pictures that include people no one is able to identify. If someone would be willing to scan and lists all old photos (especially 1800's - early 1900's era), then maybe we can print them out and ask our family members if they are able to identify them. I don't think it would be too difficult, but just who would be willing to do so. Maybe the Historical and Genealogical societies in these towns could do this or even the libraries that are local. I personally am trying to find a photo of my grandmother's parents of whom her mother died when she was only 16 years old and her father died in the 1850's. None of my family members have pictures of them. My quest is to be able to present my grandmother with a picture of her parents. Then all of this work would n! ot be in vain. delbra uld = not be in vain. delbra

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I am compiling a list of all of the Samuel Cope descendants of Richmond North Carolina and Pike/Bullock county Alabama. Included in this list (to date) are Chance, Ming, Bullard, Phillips, Hearn, Montgomery and Brinson families. If you are linked to any of these names and have ties to Pike/Bullock county Alabama, please e-mail me. delbra delbra

HELLO LISTS: - If you are researching any of the surnames listed below, please feel free to contact me. Please note: RENFORE should read RENFROE. Please pass this message on to the Russell County, AL and the Montgomery County, AL lists. I don't know their addresses. Thanks. Additional info: My slaveholding and african american Calhouns were in South Carolina; then on to Jones County, GA; then Russell County, AL; then Pike County, AL (1860); then Bullock County, AL (created in 1866-67). While in Bullock County, my family lived in Fitzpatrick, Thompson, Union Springs, Pike Road and Cornerstone. "Sharing the past . . ." Wilsie Calhoun --part1_9505bb91.24b0ebbc_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: WCalh32187@aol.com From: WCalh32187@aol.com Full-name: WCalh32187 Message-ID: <9505bb91.24b02036@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:25:58 EDT Subject: AFRICAN AMERICAN RESEARCH To: ALBULLOC-L@rootsweb.com CC: Ccalhoun44@aol.com, AMcLane101@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Hello Bullock County: I am researching my african american ancestors and the slaveholding families associated with them in Bullock, Pike, Macon, Montgomery and Russell Counties: CALHOUN - BAZEMORE - BERRY - CARTER - DAVIE - ETHERIDGE - FAULK - FLUELLEN - GAFFORD - GHOLSTON - HERSHEY - HICKS - HOWARD - IVERSON - JACKSON - LESTER - MARTIN - OWENS - PITTS - RENFORE - SANDERS - SCOTT - THOMPKINS - WASHINGTON - WRIGHT I'll be going to the Alabama Archives in Montgomery soon to do some research. If you have any tips or advice that might assist me in my quest, I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks - Wilsie Calhoun

Hello Bullock County: I am researching my african american ancestors and the slaveholding families associated with them in Bullock, Pike, Macon, Montgomery and Russell Counties: CALHOUN - BAZEMORE - BERRY - CARTER - DAVIE - ETHERIDGE - FAULK - FLUELLEN - GAFFORD - GHOLSTON - HERSHEY - HICKS - HOWARD - IVERSON - JACKSON - LESTER - MARTIN - OWENS - PITTS - RENFORE - SANDERS - SCOTT - THOMPKINS - WASHINGTON - WRIGHT I'll be going to the Alabama Archives in Montgomery soon to do some research. If you have any tips or advice that might assist me in my quest, I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks - Wilsie Calhoun

My ancestor Martha Ann GRIZZLE (born 1828 GA--died 1900 Butler Co., AL) married in Russell Co., AL in 1844 to Eli R. WILLIIAMS. I believe (but have not proved) that Martha Ann was a daughter of Clement GRIZZLE (b. 1790's, d. 1840's poss. in Macon Co., AL). and a granddaughter of Wiley GRIZZLE, who died in the early 1820's in Warren Co., GA. Other presumed children of Clement and his unknown wife were these, most of whom spelled the name "GRISWOLD": Kinchen W. GRISWOLD (1813 GA--1875 Union Springs, AL) Frances (1817 GA--1899 Butler Co., AL) m. Noah RIGSBY 1839 Troup Co., GA Martin (b. ca 1824 GA; said to have been sheriff of Bullock Co., and to have returned to GA after 1870). Obediah G. (b. ca 1830 GA, d. ca 1876 Butler Co., AL) Clement Ransom (b. ca 1832 GA, d. 1912 Covington Co., AL) I welcome any correspondence about this GRISWOLD / GRIZZLE family. Best regards, Ron Head (Montgomery, AL) ronhead@knology.net [ Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http:www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ ]

I am at a major brick wall with obtain information of the WPA history for the southeastern part of Alabama. (The Bullock/Macon county area). My g. grandfather apparently worked for the WPA cleaning along highway 29 and was given a stipen during the early 1930's but I can't find any links to understanding how that project worked for this area, and if there are documented stories from these people, where are they kept. If anyone else has descendants who were involved in any way with this project during this time frame, please send your stories and means of contacts of their involvement in the project. delbra project. delbra

Searching for any info on the Glover families that lived in Bullock County. Nathan O'Neal Glover lived and died in Union Springs. He owned a business and home there. He is buried in Oak Cemetery. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Margie Glover-Daniels

Dear Cemetery Researchers, I am writing to give you an update on our work regarding The Historical Atlas of Alabama, Volume II: Cemetery Locations by County. Allow me to first thank everyone who has contributed to the project thus far. I apologize for not being able to personally respond to every submission. We have received hundreds of submissions so far and it would not be humanly possible to respond to each contributor. While our work is not complete, the end for this edition is in sight. Some people have asked if it is too late to submit information. This is an ongoing project and as such we welcome submissions at any time. While your information may not find its way into this edition, it will be included in future editions of the Atlas. Once the Atlas becomes circulated publicly, we fully anticipate new submissions and corrections. We consider this edition to be the beginning, rather than the end, of the cemetery atlas project. We have kept track of snail mail and email addresses and will make you aware of the availability of the completed book. Publication is still several months away. Once again, my thanks. Regards, Craig Remington Director, Cartographic Research Laboratory University of Alabama cartlab@bama.ua.edu

Dear ALBULLOC List I'd be interested in communicating with anyone who is researching O'Neal or O'Neill of Bullock, Pike Counties AL or closely surrounding counties. Some other family names that are connected to my O'Neals at various points, including sibling marriages over several generations, but not nessessarily to each other are: >From my immediate O'Neal/O'Neill line: Bradberry Sellers McMillen or McMillin Frizzel or Frizzle (several spelling versions) Smilie Sibling Married names from seveal generations (but not all from one family) : Grimslade Carr Lowry Thompson Nix Norman Owen Ozier DeBose Perdue Smilie Sellers If you have any of these neame connected to, or married to an O'Neill or O'Neal in Alabama please let me know. Some of these lines may extend into GA and FL. Sincereky, Cynthia Sims Kirkland - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit my web site, GenTime.com: http://www.gentime.com/index.html and GenTime Genealogy http://www.gentime.com/genealogy/index.html Antiques, Collectibles, Vintage Jewelry http://www.gentime.com/poetryrose/index.html My specific research includes these Genealogy lines: Sims 1,Vinson, Wright, Bottoms, Hartsfield, Wilmot,Nichols, Hamlin) SC>GA>AL Sims 2, Hilson, Odom, Austin, Hill, Ashburn, Forsyth,Falconer, Symes) VA>NC>SC>GA>AL. This line possibly originates in:Dorset, Somerset, Devon, GB Bradberry, O'Neal/O'Neill, Cogdell, Gilmore, Barksdale,Harvey, Burnley, Terrell, Randolph) GA>AL O'Neal/O'Neill, Bradberry, Sellers, Smilie, Raiford,McMillen/McMillin, Frizzell, Ellis, Edwards) GA>AL Kirkland,Singleton, Kellum, Tabor, Kuykendall,Hartfield)SC>TN>GA>AL>MS>LA>TX Singleton, Kirkland, Major) MO>TX

Has anyone attempted to obtain information from the probate office of Bullock and Pike Counties. If so, please share what their process is, their address, what fees do they charge, and exactly what information are they able to provide. delbra elbra

Hi List, We have a copy of the Bullock County Breeze, Union Springs, AL, Friday July 23, 1909. The following article does not pertain to our family but mentions several names that might be of interest to others: "RESOLUTIONS ON THE DEATH OF MAJ. D. S. BETHUNE, BY ASSOCIATE MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY BOARD. In the death of Maj. D. S. Bethune, Supt. of Education of Bullock Co. and associate member of the County Board, the county has lost one of its best citizens. Truly he merited the name commonly attributed to him, a christian gentleman. Having been associated with him very closely, officially and socially for the past five years, we feel very sadly his death. Though sick quite a long time, he was always pleasant and courteous in the discharge of his official duties. Whereas it has pleased our heavenly Father to take our brother associate to himself and from our midst, Be it resolved, That we cherish very highly his manly qualities, and while we as associates mourn our loss, we feel that it is his gain. We extend to his bereaved family our most sincere sympathy. 2nd, That a copy of these resolutions be placed upon the minutes of the Board, also, that a copy be sent to his family. J. F. Martin D. A. Hixon S. J. Rutland J. P. Hall County Board of Education" Hope these names belong to some of you. Evelyn Leslie