can someone answer my question???? on ancestry .com they have the cenus you type in name of person you want up comes the info with view image you click they it takes you to say 449 the person is not there you try the page it has listed say pg 299 their not there how so I do this where are they?????????? Thn\anks Betty

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Hello, Does anyone know the parents of AB JONES, bur. at Sulfur Springs CEm. Had a son, BEAL. He married my gradparents, 1896. Familylore: was a cousin of Alex Jones of Damascus. My Jones line has a recurring of given names: Jeremiah, Jesse, William, James. Ab lived south of Mulberry River, I guess in Rice Town area. I haven't a clue as to his parentage. Any help's appreciated. Barbara in Cullman

Does anyone have any information on Lankford Waid and his wife Sarah Tidwell? Their son Velt Archer Waid was born 1879 in St Clair County, Alabama. He died in 1963 and is buried Tidwell Cemetery, Allgood, Alabama. According to a small book by the late Judge Waid, Lankford is the son of Elijah, who was the son of James Waid (son of Greenberry Waid and wife Amelia Thompson). Since my hubby has the Thompsons and Mortons that flow into this family I am set as far as that part of their background goes. The Waid info that I have is just what Judge Waid has put out. Nothing further at the museum. I will be meeting with a couple who desires to know more about Lankford and Sarah and about their son Velt Waid. If anyone has further info on this family would love to hear from you and will put you in touch with the couple. I am hoping to have a fruitful meeting with them at the museum at the end of the month. I suspect that Sarah Tidwell is a descendant of Robert Tidwell and Monica Mamie Roden because of where Velt and Sarah are buried. Could very well descend from Jeremiah, Vardy or Blake Tidwell, who were sons of Robert and Monie. Any help in helping me to assist this sweet couple would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Melba Lowe

----------from Barbara's original message------------ >>Have reason to believe they lie in Western division of old Blount Co., **now** Southwestern part of Cullman Co.>> [* the *'s around the word "now" are mine] The above portion of Barbara's inquiry led me to believe that she was speaking of that SW portion of Cullman Co which was gained by Cullman from Blount Co. in 1887 [gained previously by Blount from Walker]. There are two BRADFORD families listed on the Blount Co census for 1850 which might shed light on this. One is for John [60], Catherine [56] and William [21]. The other one is for Daniel [75] and Sarah Bradford [86]. ----------Barbara's original message--------- >>>>>1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). > >>>>> Since these names are similar to the names of those for whose graves she is searching, perhaps they were in that area when they died. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [ALBLOUNT-L] BRADFORD GRAVESITES > Melba and Barbara, > > Since the inquiry was for burials about 1860 to 1873, prior to Cullman > county coming into existence, and the assumption was for "old Blount > co.", such burials in Blount county would never have been in Walker > county, and at 1873 the involved county boundaries hadn't changed, and > remained so until the formation of Cullman county. So only at 1887 did > Cullman county extend south into what had been Walker county at Cullman > county's formation date. And had they been Blount county burials of > those dates proposed, they could never have been Walker county located, > since, as above, Blount county's borders involved had stayed stagnant > from 1822 to 1877. > > Cullman's present day borders are only of academic interest in this > matter otherwise. > > >>>>Barbara Buettner wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks > >>>> > >>>> > >are buried???: > > > > > >>>>>1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and > >>>>>Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in > >>>>>Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman > >>>>> > >>>>> > >Co. > > > > > >>>An answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara > >>> > >>> > -- > Richard Brock > > >

Melba and Barbara, Since the inquiry was for burials about 1860 to 1873, prior to Cullman county coming into existence, and the assumption was for "old Blount co.", such burials in Blount county would never have been in Walker county, and at 1873 the involved county boundaries hadn't changed, and remained so until the formation of Cullman county. So only at 1887 did Cullman county extend south into what had been Walker county at Cullman county's formation date. And had they been Blount county burials of those dates proposed, they could never have been Walker county located, since, as above, Blount county's borders involved had stayed stagnant from 1822 to 1877. Cullman's present day borders are only of academic interest in this matter otherwise. >>>>Barbara Buettner wrote: >>>> >>>>Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks >>>> >>>> >are buried???: > > >>>>>1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and >>>>>Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in >>>>>Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman >>>>> >>>>> >Co. > > >>>An answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara >>> >>> -- Richard Brock

Richard, The map at http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps/al58.htm shows Cullman Co as it was in 1877. The SW portion of the current Cullman Co is not in that area. Look at the maps with the links listed under Alabama Census Maps 1790 - 1930 on the page at http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps.htm ] If you click the link [Overlay Modern Map], these maps show the former and current boundries for the counties, you will see that the SW portion of the current Cullman County is not in the area which was once part of Winston. It is in the area that was Walker, Blount and Jeffeson at various times. See especially these two: 1870 census map with overlay: http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps/al_1870-new.htm and 1880 census map with overlay: http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps/al_1880-new.htm Comparing the above maps with the other maps[see list in former email] on the site, one can see that the SW portion of present day Cullman Co was in the area that changed counties several times between Walker, Blount and Jefferson counties. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [ALBLOUNT-L] Re: BRADFORD GRAVESITES / Cullman Co. Boundries / 2 map sources > http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps/al58.htm > This URL seems to differ with your source Melba. Just move before and > after the origin date of 1877 for Cullman county and the changes are > much simpler. For instance it never seemed to have been derived from > Walker county by the time the deaths she mentioned occurred. Winston > having been formed in 1858. > > Melba Clark wrote: > > >Actually the SW part of Cullman Co was part of several counties, depending > >on the year of which one is speaking. The maps for the counties for each > >census year show the SW portion as follows: > >1800 Indian Lands > >1820 Blount and Jefferson > >1830 Walker > >1840 Walker > >1850 Walker > >1860 Walker > >1870 Walker > >1880 Blount > >1900 Blount and Cullman > >1910 Cullman > >1920 Cullman > >NOTE: the above information is about just the SW section portion of present > >day Cullman Co. > > > >This information comes from the book, "Map Guide to the U. S. Federal > >Census,1790-1920" by Wm Thorndale & Wm Dollarhide. > >------------------------------------------ > >Another map source: > > > >County Formation maps [and others] are online at > > http://www.segenealogy.com/index.htm > > > >Follow the links: > >drop-down: County Formation Maps > Alabama. Choose Alabama County > >Formation Maps> 1799 > Then choose "next image" and continue through a > >series of maps showing the formation of the counties. [one broken link at > >1858 - go back to Home and start with 1859] > > > >The 1818-1821 map shows the area which became Cullman as all in Blount Co. > >[with the south tip in Jefferson part of the time] > >1823-1848 map show present Cullman as part Walker and part Blount. > >1850-1854 shows it as part Hancock, part Walker, part Blount. > >1858 Hancock changed name to Winston. > >1858- 1876 Cullman continues as part Winston, part Walker, part Blount. > >1877 Cullman Co formed from then Blount, Marshall, Morgan, Winston. Part of > >present Cullman was still Walker and Blount. > >1879 Blount exchanged [for some of future Cullman] with Walker, Blount > >gained from Cullman. > >1887 Cullman gained some from Blount. > >1893 Cullman gained more from Blount. > >1853 Cullman gained from Walker. [last map showing change in Cullman's > >boundries.] > > > >If you look at the Alabama census maps 1820-1930 on this site, be sure to > >click on the option, [Overlay Modern Map] on each map page to see the > >present day boundries in relationship to those of the date of the map. > > > >Hope this helps, > >Melba Clark > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Richard" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:32 PM > >Subject: Re: [ALBLOUNT-L] BRADFORD GRAVESITES > > > >>Wouldn't SW Cullman county have been SE Winston county since Cullman > >>became mostly from NE Blount and eastern Winston? > >> > >>Barbara Buettner wrote: > >> >>>Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks are buried???: > >>>1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and > >>>Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in > >>>Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman Co. > >>> > >An answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara >

http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_maps/al58.htm This URL seems to differ with your source Melba. Just move before and after the origin date of 1877 for Cullman county and the changes are much simpler. For instance it never seemed to have been derived from Walker county by the time the deaths she mentioned occurred. Winston having been formed in 1858. Melba Clark wrote: >Actually the SW part of Cullman Co was part of several counties, depending >on the year of which one is speaking. The maps for the counties for each >census year show the SW portion as follows: >1800 Indian Lands >1820 Blount and Jefferson >1830 Walker >1840 Walker >1850 Walker >1860 Walker >1870 Walker >1880 Blount >1900 Blount and Cullman >1910 Cullman >1920 Cullman >NOTE: the above information is about just the SW section portion of present >day Cullman Co. > >This information comes from the book, "Map Guide to the U. S. Federal >Census,1790-1920" by Wm Thorndale & Wm Dollarhide. >------------------------------------------ >Another map source: > >County Formation maps [and others] are online at >http://www.segenealogy.com/index.htm > >Follow the links: >drop-down: County Formation Maps > Alabama. Choose Alabama County >Formation Maps> 1799 > Then choose "next image" and continue through a >series of maps showing the formation of the counties. [one broken link at >1858 - go back to Home and start with 1859] > >The 1818-1821 map shows the area which became Cullman as all in Blount Co. >[with the south tip in Jefferson part of the time] >1823-1848 map show present Cullman as part Walker and part Blount. >1850-1854 shows it as part Hancock, part Walker, part Blount. >1858 Hancock changed name to Winston. >1858- 1876 Cullman continues as part Winston, part Walker, part Blount. >1877 Cullman Co formed from then Blount, Marshall, Morgan, Winston. Part of >present Cullman was still Walker and Blount. >1879 Blount exchanged [for some of future Cullman] with Walker, Blount >gained from Cullman. >1887 Cullman gained some from Blount. >1893 Cullman gained more from Blount. >1853 Cullman gained from Walker. [last map showing change in Cullman's >boundries.] > >If you look at the Alabama census maps 1820-1930 on this site, be sure to >click on the option, [Overlay Modern Map] on each map page to see the >present day boundries in relationship to those of the date of the map. > >Hope this helps, >Melba Clark > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:32 PM >Subject: Re: [ALBLOUNT-L] BRADFORD GRAVESITES > > > > >>Wouldn't SW Cullman county have been SE Winston county since Cullman >>became mostly from NE Blount and eastern Winston? >> >>Barbara Buettner wrote: >> >> >> >>>Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks >>> >>> >are > > >>>buried???: >>>1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and >>>Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in >>>Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman Co. >>> >>> >An > > >>>answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara >>> >>>

Actually the SW part of Cullman Co was part of several counties, depending on the year of which one is speaking. The maps for the counties for each census year show the SW portion as follows: 1800 Indian Lands 1820 Blount and Jefferson 1830 Walker 1840 Walker 1850 Walker 1860 Walker 1870 Walker 1880 Blount 1900 Blount and Cullman 1910 Cullman 1920 Cullman NOTE: the above information is about just the SW section portion of present day Cullman Co. This information comes from the book, "Map Guide to the U. S. Federal Census,1790-1920" by Wm Thorndale & Wm Dollarhide. ------------------------------------------ Another map source: County Formation maps [and others] are online at http://www.segenealogy.com/index.htm Follow the links: drop-down: County Formation Maps > Alabama. Choose Alabama County Formation Maps> 1799 > Then choose "next image" and continue through a series of maps showing the formation of the counties. [one broken link at 1858 - go back to Home and start with 1859] The 1818-1821 map shows the area which became Cullman as all in Blount Co. [with the south tip in Jefferson part of the time] 1823-1848 map show present Cullman as part Walker and part Blount. 1850-1854 shows it as part Hancock, part Walker, part Blount. 1858 Hancock changed name to Winston. 1858- 1876 Cullman continues as part Winston, part Walker, part Blount. 1877 Cullman Co formed from then Blount, Marshall, Morgan, Winston. Part of present Cullman was still Walker and Blount. 1879 Blount exchanged [for some of future Cullman] with Walker, Blount gained from Cullman. 1887 Cullman gained some from Blount. 1893 Cullman gained more from Blount. 1853 Cullman gained from Walker. [last map showing change in Cullman's boundries.] If you look at the Alabama census maps 1820-1930 on this site, be sure to click on the option, [Overlay Modern Map] on each map page to see the present day boundries in relationship to those of the date of the map. Hope this helps, Melba Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ALBLOUNT-L] BRADFORD GRAVESITES > Wouldn't SW Cullman county have been SE Winston county since Cullman > became mostly from NE Blount and eastern Winston? > > Barbara Buettner wrote: > > >Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks are > >buried???: > >1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and > >Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in > >Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman Co. An > >answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > Richard Brock > > > >

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Wouldn't SW Cullman county have been SE Winston county since Cullman became mostly from NE Blount and eastern Winston? Barbara Buettner wrote: >Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks are >buried???: >1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and >Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in >Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman Co. An >answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara > > > >-- > > Richard Brock

Robin, do you happen to have any pictures of any Epperson Markers? Thanks MMHodges [email protected] >From: Sharon Karam <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ALBLOUNT-L] Thank you!! >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:54:20 -0800 > >Hello Robin, > >What a gift you are to people researching their Blount County family >history! I am extremely grateful for all 16 digital photographs you sent me >of my ancestors' headstones. Excellent photo quality too. > >The fact that you took pictures of every headstone in each of these >cemeteries, and have them on file, is a huge undertaking. That you share >them when asked is a big bonus. You provide something quite unique, a Web >site with a truly human touch >(http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/blount.html). > >Thank you again for your help. > >Sharon Smith-Karam _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Would anyone have knowledge or a guess as to where the following folks are buried???: 1)John and Catie McSwain BRADFORD (b. SC d. 1869 & 1873) 2) Darnel and Sarah BRADFORD (b. SC & d. ca 1860). Have reason to believe they lie in Western division of old Blount Co., now Southwestern part of Cullman Co. An answer or a guess would be appreciated. Thanx, Barbara

Sharon, The Southern Democrat is now the Blount Countian. There is a gentleman in the basement of the Blount County Court House that is an Archivist and has all of the old records there. The number for the Blount Countian is (205)625-3231. Good luck. Randall in Jacksonville, FL. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Karam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALBLOUNT-L] Southern Democrat obit copies?? I live on the West Coast. Can anyone tell me how to obtain copies of obits placed in the Southern Democrat in the early 1900's. I had hoped to find them on the Web, but thus far have found only an index. Thank you. Sharon Smith-Karam

Hello Robin, What a gift you are to people researching their Blount County family history! I am extremely grateful for all 16 digital photographs you sent me of my ancestors' headstones. Excellent photo quality too. The fact that you took pictures of every headstone in each of these cemeteries, and have them on file, is a huge undertaking. That you share them when asked is a big bonus. You provide something quite unique, a Web site with a truly human touch (http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/blount.html). Thank you again for your help. Sharon Smith-Karam

I live in CA. I am researching my Cornelius ancestors, some of whom are buried in Old Liberty cemetery. I need help obtaining proof they are buried there. I can't find a phone number for the cemetery, so don't know how to contact them. Can someone please give me the correct contact information? This is a key link for me in proving some otherwise 'murky' relationships. Thank you, Sharon Smith-Karam

I live on the West Coast. Can anyone tell me how to obtain copies of obits placed in the Southern Democrat in the early 1900's. I had hoped to find them on the Web, but thus far have found only an index. Thank you. Sharon Smith-Karam