Melissa, thank you for this information. Perhaps I was merely going back to my own memory as a child or youngster, where everything was separate: movie theatre entrances and seating areass, public restrooms etc. I remember as a young lad an uncle and I would go across town and stand outside a couple of Black churches and listen to them, and once TV began, used to always follow a couple of Black church services.... I have read the Schutz Creek Baptist Church records, and do not recall mention of any slaves or Blacks. I was, however, more involved ihn searching out some g, g, uncles so could have missed them. I will read further as you suggested, thanks again. don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Hogan" <genealogistinal@yahoo.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Clark Family in Presbyterian Church/integration inearly churches > Don > > Pre-Civil War and even several years following the War, black slaves and > whites worshiped in the same churches, but usually seated in different > areas. The black slaves were not typically required to attend the same > church as the white slave owner and some times attended another church in > the area...most slave owners of the period felt it was their > duty/responsibility to look after the spiritual health of the black slaves > he owned. It was only post-Civil War that segregation of the races began > in the churches. I do not recall seeing free blacks on the church > registers pre-Civil War, but would not be suprised to find them as well. > > You will find that the records of Bibb County churches that have been > published include both black and white members ... these membership lists > can be of crucial significance to those research pre-Civil War slave > ancestors. > > I highly recommend 'Hugh Davis and His Alabama Plantation" by Weymouth > Jordan. The plantation was located in Perry County, adjacent to Bibb... > Hugh Davis' journals begin in the 1830's and end with his death in 1862. > His sons took over the plantation at that time and the book continues into > reconstruction until the plantation is finally sold. The original papers > of Hugh Davis used for this book are located at the University of > Alabama. > >>From the "Guide to the Hugh Davis papers": > http://www.lib.ua.edu/content/findingaids/pdf/ms_1611.pdf > > BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH: > Hugh Davis, the son of Nathaniel and Martha Davis, was born on November > 22, 1811, in Fayette County, Kentucky. He moved to Marion, Alabama, in > 1834 and began a successful career as an attorney. Davis married Sarah > Rachel Jones in 1839, and the couple had seven children. In 1848, Davis > assumed the management of the Beaver Bend plantation along the Cahaba > River, and upon his death in 1862, his sons continued to farm his land > holdings. > > Part of this collection includes: > > FARM OPERATIONS, 1848-1880 > Farm journals consist of six ledgers covering the years 1848-1854, > 1854-1856, 1856-1858, 1859-1862, 1862-1866 (the estate of Hugh Davis), and > 1880 (N.J. Davis, a son of Hugh Davis). The first five ledgers contain > daily entries concerning plantation activities and crop production written > by Hugh Davis and his overseers. Also included in the first five books are > records of births, sick lists, amounts of cotton picked by slaves, amount > of clothing purchased for each slave, records of profits, weather > notations, rules for life on the plantation, and other information. The > 1856-1858 book includes a list of newspapers taken by Hugh Davis in 1858. > The 1862-1866 ledger begins with a detailed explanation of the system of > farming at Beaver Bend. The 1880 book, maintained by N.J. Davis, includes > notes of purchases made for the plantation, records of cash accounts, and > information on individual accounts for workers. Also included is an > 1849-1852 large pocket diary > containing lists of purchases, lists of accounts, memorandums, and other > information and an 1853-1858 large pocket diary that includes daily > activities, lists of slaves, lists of purchases, notes on crop production, > and records of family births. Also included are bills of sale for slaves > and a copy of the 1845 Catechism of Agricultural Chemistry and Geology by > James F.W. Johnson. > > Melissa > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:52:14 -0500 > From: "Don Logan" <moodylogan@windstream.net> > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Clark Family in Presbyterian Church > > thank you for responding to my query. > Alaexander is certainly one of the first listed, and he must have been an > elder, along with two others: Potts, and Walace (sic). > However, there apparently was another Clark family. > > I am not completely through the document; however, I have already seen > where > a black...I forget for whom she was enslaved. > Still, I thouyght it unbelievable that a black slave could be baptised and > accepted into membership in a White Church in the 1830s. > > don > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message