DON, WHERE DID YOU READ THE SCHULTZ CREEK CHURCH MINUTES? ARE THEY IN THE CENTREVILLLE LIBRARY? GRACE --IN TUSCALOOSA -------------- Original message from "Don Logan" <moodylogan@windstream.net>: -------------- > Melissa, > thank you for this information. Perhaps I was merely going back to my own > memory as a child or youngster, where everything > was separate: movie theatre entrances and seating areass, public restrooms > etc. I remember as a young lad an uncle and I would > go across town and stand outside a couple of Black churches and listen to > them, and once TV began, used to always follow a couple of Black church > services.... > > I have read the Schutz Creek Baptist Church records, and do not recall > mention of any slaves or Blacks. I was, however, more involved ihn > searching out some g, g, uncles so could have missed them. > > I will read further as you suggested, > thanks again. > > don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melissa Hogan" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Clark Family in Presbyterian Church/integration > inearly churches > > > > Don > > > > Pre-Civil War and even several years following the War, black slaves and > > whites worshiped in the same churches, but usually seated in different > > areas. The black slaves were not typically required to attend the same > > church as the white slave owner and some times attended another church in > > the area...most slave owners of the period felt it was their > > duty/responsibility to look after the spiritual health of the black slaves > > he owned. It was only post-Civil War that segregation of the races began > > in the churches. I do not recall seeing free blacks on the church > > registers pre-Civil War, but would not be suprised to find them as well. > > > > You will find that the records of Bibb County churches that have been > > published include both black and white members ... these membership lists > > can be of crucial significance to those research pre-Civil War slave > > ancestors. > > > > I highly recommend 'Hugh Davis and His Alabama Plantation" by Weymouth > > Jordan. The plantation was located in Perry County, adjacent to Bibb... > > Hugh Davis' journals begin in the 1830's and end with his death in 1862. > > His sons took over the plantation at that time and the book continues into > > reconstruction until the plantation is finally sold. The original papers > > of Hugh Davis used for this book are located at the University of > > Alabama. > > > >>From the "Guide to the Hugh Davis papers": > > http://www.lib.ua.edu/content/findingaids/pdf/ms_1611.pdf > > > > BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH: > > Hugh Davis, the son of Nathaniel and Martha Davis, was born on November > > 22, 1811, in Fayette County, Kentucky. He moved to Marion, Alabama, in > > 1834 and began a successful career as an attorney. Davis married Sarah > > Rachel Jones in 1839, and the couple had seven children. In 1848, Davis > > assumed the management of the Beaver Bend plantation along the Cahaba > > River, and upon his death in 1862, his sons continued to farm his land > > holdings. > > > > Part of this collection includes: > > > > FARM OPERATIONS, 1848-1880 > > Farm journals consist of six ledgers covering the years 1848-1854, > > 1854-1856, 1856-1858, 1859-1862, 1862-1866 (the estate of Hugh Davis), and > > 1880 (N.J. Davis, a son of Hugh Davis). The first five ledgers contain > > daily entries concerning plantation activities and crop production written > > by Hugh Davis and his overseers. Also included in the first five books are > > records of births, sick lists, amounts of cotton picked by slaves, amount > > of clothing purchased for each slave, records of profits, weather > > notations, rules for life on the plantation, and other information. The > > 1856-1858 book includes a list of newspapers taken by Hugh Davis in 1858. > > The 1862-1866 ledger begins with a detailed explanation of the system of > > farming at Beaver Bend. The 1880 book, maintained by N.J. Davis, includes > > notes of purchases made for the plantation, records of cash accounts, and > > information on individual accounts for workers. Also included is an > > 1849-1852 large pocket diary > > containing lists of purchases, lists of accounts, memorandums, and other > > information and an 1853-1858 large pocket diary that includes daily > > activities, lists of slaves, lists of purchases, notes on crop production, > > and records of family births. Also included are bills of sale for slaves > > and a copy of the 1845 Catechism of Agricultural Chemistry and Geology by > > James F.W. Johnson. > > > > Melissa > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:52:14 -0500 > > From: "Don Logan" > > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Clark Family in Presbyterian Church > > > > thank you for responding to my query. > > Alaexander is certainly one of the first listed, and he must have been an > > elder, along with two others: Potts, and Walace (sic). > > However, there apparently was another Clark family. > > > > I am not completely through the document; however, I have already seen > > where > > a black...I forget for whom she was enslaved. > > Still, I thouyght it unbelievable that a black slave could be baptised and > > accepted into membership in a White Church in the 1830s. > > > > don > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message