Ed, Bibb county was not created until 1818 from Monroe and Montgomery Cos. There is an 1816 territorial census for sereral counties in Al. I believe these were abstracted and published by the Alabama Gen. Society years ago. The territorial censuses are in the American State Papers. Did your ancestor have a bounty land warrant from service in War of 1812? Try www.worldcat.org to find a copy of the book you mentioned in a library. You can put in your zip code to see the closest to you. Don't forget interlibrary loan. Use http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ (Bureau of Land Management site) for a Patent search for your ancestor who appears to have been in Alabama (Mississippi Territory as AL became a state in 1819). Since Alabama was not a state until 1819, you will need territorial records before 1819. Try AL State Archives in Montgomery, AL and MS State Archives in Jackson, MS. Do you know about free Texas Death Certificates at: http://pilot.familysearch.org? There is alot of free info. at this site as well. Happy Hunting, Liz in Houston ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:22:49 PM EDT From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ALBIBB] MILLER, SMITH This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eddiebob Surnames: SMITH, WILSON, HALL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/525.324.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a John SMITH, my GGGGgrampa, that settled in Bibb County shortly after the War of 1812. He is mentioned in the Bibb County history by Armes: "Story of Coal and Iron in Alabama". I haven't been a ble to find a copy of this history. John SMITH, born about 1820 is my GGGgrampa. His daughter, Susana Rutha SMITH, is my GGgramma. Rutha was born on 30 April 1840 according to her tombstone in Beckham County, OK. She died 6 June 1900. She married Elijah Thomas WILSON about 1867 in Lavaca County, TX. Rutha was a ward of the Lavaca Court of Estates. Her guardians were James T and Malona(HALL) WILSON, Elijah's uncle and aunt. The HALL's and WILSON's were on the 1830 Greene County, AL census and 1840 Sumpter County, AL census. They moved to Noxubee County, MS in 1836; then on to Neshoba County, MS in 1844; and on to Lavaca County TX in 1853. Any help finding this SMITH family would be very helpful and appreciated. Ed Antonette ed_dottie@verizon.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message