This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Hushing Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3810/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have a copy of, or know where I can get a copy of, James Lee Green's 27 Apr. 1992 article entitled "The Greens of Bibb Co., AL" ? Any libraries have this? Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fabjonci Surnames: Williams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3809/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hillery Williams married Millie Green in Shelby Co. 06-15-1848. Their chirdren were Charity b. 1849, Johnathan b. 1852, Victoria b. 1858, and James Monroe b.1860. James Monroe is my Great Great Grandfather. The reason I am putting this in Bibb Co. is because they lived in and around Bibb Co.,and they both died in Bibb Co.. If you have any information as to who his parents are please e-mail me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, My grgrandmother was Lettice Ann (Lettie) Williams, who married Joseph Yerby Willis, in Coosa Co Al in 1842. (Rockford Al seemed to be a popular place to get married, plus Joseph Yerby worked on the river, in three counties) Lettie had a brother named Hillery, and she named a son after him. Her folks were Hugh Williams, and Rachel Post.. (I think these Williams had first come from Ga) Hugh and Rachel also had a daughter named Winifred (Winnie) Williams who married John Wesley Willis in Shelby Co Al in 1852, so sisters married brothers.Joseph Yerby had a granddaughter, who married William Post. This is the only Hillery Williams I have seen in Shelby Co Al. Stella

That's a thought - mileage and time vs. certificate cost. Just depends on how many certificates but looks like you've got it worked out. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > By driving my 20 year old truck 80 miles I'll spend $8. It'll take me 3 > hrs > to save $4 hmmmmmmmmmm! Penny wise Pound foolish ;~) > Caroline, > I have the Alabama Death Index so obtaining the information necessary > isn't an issue. With the time restrictions at LDS & distance involved > obtaining the certificate in Clanton sounds easiest. Thanks for the > suggestion though. > Ric >

Yes Ric, and the ladies at the B'ham LDS are really helpful. Now note that it is time consuming to get the reels, search through the pages on the film readers and then move them to the copiers. So just give yourself plenty of time there. Just call them well in advance also and let them know that you are coming from out of town and they normally will make sure that someone is there. They will also save all the copies you want to a disc or a USB memory stick for you. (They will sell you a disc) But yes, you may want to make sure you have the information from the index first, to save yourself some time. Lastly, if you do go to the Health Dept. remember that it is $12 for each search even if they don't find it. You pay first and there is no refund if they do not find the one you are looking for. I believe it does a + or - 5 year search for the dates that you give them. I wish you luck, the Health Dept. way cost me a lot with only few results. Ingrid -------Original Message------- From: Caroline Date: 03/07/09 10:10:07 To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama Death Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in B'ham and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about 1960 on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death certificates. If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are $1.00 per page. The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open Wed, 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: 205-967-7279. They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to ALBIBB. Good luck and safe travels ~ Caroline Horton, List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. > I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. > Ric ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

By driving my 20 year old truck 80 miles I'll spend $8. It'll take me 3 hrs to save $4 hmmmmmmmmmm! Penny wise Pound foolish ;~) -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Lucas Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:16 PM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate And the last time I purchased a death certificate it cost $12.00 at the Health Department! You can identify much of the information you want to see at the Alabama Department of Archives and History online. http://www.archives.state.al.us/ Doing preliminary research online will save you a lot of time. Lyn -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ric West Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Caroline, I have the Alabama Death Index so obtaining the information necessary isn't an issue. With the time restrictions at LDS & distance involved obtaining the certificate in Clanton sounds easiest. Thanks for the suggestion though. Ric -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:10 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama Death Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in B'ham and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about 1960 on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death certificates. If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are $1.00 per page. The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open Wed, 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: 205-967-7279. They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to ALBIBB. Good luck and safe travels ~ Caroline Horton, List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. > I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. > Ric ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And the last time I purchased a death certificate it cost $12.00 at the Health Department! You can identify much of the information you want to see at the Alabama Department of Archives and History online. http://www.archives.state.al.us/ Doing preliminary research online will save you a lot of time. Lyn -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ric West Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Caroline, I have the Alabama Death Index so obtaining the information necessary isn't an issue. With the time restrictions at LDS & distance involved obtaining the certificate in Clanton sounds easiest. Thanks for the suggestion though. Ric -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:10 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama Death Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in B'ham and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about 1960 on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death certificates. If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are $1.00 per page. The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open Wed, 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: 205-967-7279. They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to ALBIBB. Good luck and safe travels ~ Caroline Horton, List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. > I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. > Ric ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Caroline, I have the Alabama Death Index so obtaining the information necessary isn't an issue. With the time restrictions at LDS & distance involved obtaining the certificate in Clanton sounds easiest. Thanks for the suggestion though. Ric -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:10 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama Death Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in B'ham and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about 1960 on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death certificates. If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are $1.00 per page. The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open Wed, 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: 205-967-7279. They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to ALBIBB. Good luck and safe travels ~ Caroline Horton, List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. > I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. > Ric ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It might be easier in Clanton but will certainly be more expensive. Good luck, Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Caroline, > I have the Alabama Death Index so obtaining the information necessary > isn't an issue. With the time restrictions at LDS & distance involved > obtaining the certificate in Clanton sounds easiest. Thanks for the > suggestion though. > Ric > > -----Original Message----- > From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Caroline > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:10 AM > To: albibb@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > > Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time > in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from > Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama > Death > Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This > way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and > you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. > Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama > Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in > B'ham > > and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to > Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The > Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. > Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about > 1960 > > on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death > certificates. > If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are > $1.00 per page. > The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to > cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open > Wed, > > 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but > since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: > 205-967-7279. > > They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. > If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to > ALBIBB. > > Good luck and safe travels ~ > Caroline Horton, List Admin. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> > To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > > >> Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the >> past. >> I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. >> Ric > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ric, unless you need a certified death certificate I suggest you plan time in B'ham at the LDS Family History Center off I-459 (just an hour from Clanton). Look up the information for the individuals on the Alabama Death Index to get the numbers you need for the correct reel of microfilm. This way you can look at the certificate, only pay about 10 cents per copy and you will be sure that you have the correct certificate. Since you have used Suzette Cook in the past you know to use the Alabama Death Index at Ancestry.com or wait until you are at the LDS center in B'ham and use the index there. The Clanton library may have access to Ancestry.com and the Archives in Montgomery does have Ancestry.com. The Archives does not have the reels of death certificates. Death certificates were started about 1908 and are available thru about 1960 on microfilm. During the early years, especially, not everyone had death certificates. If going to the Probate office in Clanton be aware that probate copies are $1.00 per page. The ADAH in Montgomery is now open Tues - Friday 8:30 - 4:30. Due to cutbacks they are closed on Saturday. The LDS center in B'ham is open Wed, 10 a .m. - 7 p.m.; Thursday 10 a.m. - 4 p.m. and Sat. 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. but since they depend on volunteers call before you make the trip: 205-967-7279. They can give you directions, corner of Altadena Rd. and Cahaba River Rd. If anyone has further suggestions or corrections please note them to ALBIBB. Good luck and safe travels ~ Caroline Horton, List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate > Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. > I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. > Ric

Thanks! Living in PA I've had Susette get several DC's for me in the past. I'll be in Clanton next week & go to the Health Dept. there. Ric -----Original Message----- From: albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:albibb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Hogan Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:29 AM To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Obtaining AL death certificate Ric You might find the following of interest: http://www.adph.org/vitalrecords/ http://www.adph.org/vitalrecords/Default.asp?id=1560 A death certificate can be obtaining in ANY county health department in the State of Alabama regardless of where the person died in Alabama. If the person died pre 1960, and you do not necessarily need a "certified" copy, you might also consider the following: http://www.alabamadeath.com/ Melissa ________________________________ From: "albibb-request@rootsweb.com" <albibb-request@rootsweb.com> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:01:16 AM Subject: ALBIBB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43 Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) (Ric West) 2. Re: (no subject) (liz hicks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:45:06 -0500 From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> Subject: [ALBIBB] (no subject) To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <678B7072ACB345AB8B521AABC0A7B4B9@West1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:42:16 -0500 From: "liz hicks" <erootrot@usa.net> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] (no subject) To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <980NcgBpq7784S13.1236390136@cmsweb13.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ric, Try using www.vitalrec.com for Alabama. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:45:26 PM EST From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ALBIBB] (no subject) I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the ALBIBB list administrator, send an email to ALBIBB-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ALBIBB mailing list, send an email to ALBIBB@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALBIBB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43 ************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ric You might find the following of interest: http://www.adph.org/vitalrecords/ http://www.adph.org/vitalrecords/Default.asp?id=1560 A death certificate can be obtaining in ANY county health department in the State of Alabama regardless of where the person died in Alabama. If the person died pre 1960, and you do not necessarily need a "certified" copy, you might also consider the following: http://www.alabamadeath.com/ Melissa ________________________________ From: "albibb-request@rootsweb.com" <albibb-request@rootsweb.com> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:01:16 AM Subject: ALBIBB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43 Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) (Ric West) 2. Re: (no subject) (liz hicks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:45:06 -0500 From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> Subject: [ALBIBB] (no subject) To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <678B7072ACB345AB8B521AABC0A7B4B9@West1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:42:16 -0500 From: "liz hicks" <erootrot@usa.net> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] (no subject) To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <980NcgBpq7784S13.1236390136@cmsweb13.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ric, Try using www.vitalrec.com for Alabama. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:45:26 PM EST From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ALBIBB] (no subject) I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the ALBIBB list administrator, send an email to ALBIBB-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ALBIBB mailing list, send an email to ALBIBB@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ALBIBB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 43 *************************************

Ric, Try using www.vitalrec.com for Alabama. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:45:26 PM EST From: "Ric West" <rwest@ptd.net> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ALBIBB] (no subject) I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll be in Montgomery next month. Does anyone have the address & hrs for the Vital stats dept. I'd like to get a couple of death cert's there. Thanks Ric God is an Infinite Ocean of Light and Love. As a Spark of that Light Help Share the Love.

William McElroy is listed as buried in Yellow Fever Cemetery. it should be Yellow River Cemetery. Can this be corrected? Thank You. Anna McElroy

I am descended from Jesse Anderson Brown and Obedience Leggett who lived around Gary Springs and Enon Baptist Church. Jesse had a brother, Edmond, who lived down near Maplesville, just off Hwy. 82 and the road to Selma. Edmond moved to Kemper county, MS about 1840, along with his son, Dr. Albert Brown, MD and maybe a second son, Henry. Edmond was married to Nancy "Appy" Barfield(?). I have very little information about this family other than Edmond, Nancy, Albert and Henry who were mentioned in the Brown Bible. On an 1846 Tax List in Kemper county were Albert, Edmond, Henry, Irwin, J. W., Mary, Michael, Morgan D., and Oliver Brown. I seem to recall an Oliver Brown in Bibb county, not connected to my line, at least to the best of my knowledge. Would anyone have information on Oliver Brown and whether this could be him? Did anyone else have ancestors to migrate from Bibb to Kemper? John http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~opus/index.htm John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "Honesty is the Best Policy, but Insanity is a Better Defense."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rhondabrown49 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3731.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Margie, I cannot respond to your address directly, please contact me at my e-mail address. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margie_Smitherman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/2247.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pat, you listed that your needed some help on your family data and that your Paternal lines were Gentry, Lawrence, Lenoir, Hicks, Edwards, Giles, Hubbard, and Jones. I might can help you. Lawley, Alabama the only Lenoir that I can think of would be my gggrandmother Martha Ann Lenoir who married John H Hicks. Both are buried at Rehobeth Church Cemetery near Lawley. Don't know about Giles/Hubbard living in Lawley area but another of my ancestral grandparents was Sarah Giles b. ca 1785 [dau. of Thomas & Mary Giles] who married 1st to Davis Hubbard and 2nd to Issac Gentry. Their descendants are scattered in both Bibb and Chilton Counties. On the JONES family it would be Eliah Jones who married Massina Smitherman and had a son D Bailor Jones who married Nancy Ann Smitherman but they are going to be from around the Cox Chapel Community, not Lawley. On the LAWRENCE family would be Edward Lawrence who married first I believe Nancy Pries and 2nd to Sarah Smitherman in Randolph Co., NC. I have some information on their descendants. Let me know if any of these sounds familiar. Sincerely, Margie Smitherman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margie_Smitherman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3758.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Raleigh P R Latham b. 1815 North Carolina. Died 10 August 1894 Chilton Co., Al. [Estate is probated in Chilton Co., Al.] Married 1st 4 November 1839 Bibb Co., AL. to MARY SMITHERMAN b. 1816 North Carolina. [dau. of THOMAS SMITHERMAN b. Nov. 1788 NC and 1st wife Elizabeth Lowdermilk {dau. of John Harrison Lowdermilk}] Married 2nd on 9 September 1873 to Mrs. Martha Ann Rominger b. ca 1827 NC [married by W H Mahan JP. Marriage recorded in Bibb Co., AL. Marriage Book G on page 94.] NOTE: Mrs. Martha Ann Rominger was Martha Ann "Patsy" Smitherman who married 1st on 16 November 1843 Bibb Co., Al. to Charles Rominger. Apparently they must have gotten a divorce, because she married her brother in law in 1873 and her 1st husband Charles Rominger was listed on the 1880 census. Martha Ann "Patsy" Smitherman Rominger Latham was also a daughter of Thomas Smitherman b. 21 Nov. 1788 and 1st wife Elizabeth Lowdermilk. Listed below are the census records for Rolley P R Latham and family up to 1880. I have all the later census records if you have any questions. 1850 US Bibb Co., Al. Census 20th November, page 55B house no 740/740 Rolley Latham 35 M Farmer 800 NC, Mary 34 F NC can't read or write, Jabez 8 M AL Weston C 6 M Al. Rebecca 4 F Al. Licurgas 3 M Al. Leonidas 3 M (Twins) Alexander 6/12 M Al. 1860 US Bibb Co., AL. Census page 756 27 July, Randolph house no 735/725 Rolly Lathem 40 M Farmer 1000/3500 NC, Mary 40 F Domestic NC Jabez 17 M Weston 16 M Rebecca 14 F Leonidus 10 M Licurgus 10 M Emit 7 M Henry 4 M Ellen 8/12 F Allen Rolly 50 M Farmer 1000/3500 SC can't read or write. 1870 US Baker Co., AL. Census page 222, 11 August house #47 , Rolly Latham 52 M Farmer NC, Mary 52 F Keeping house NC. Leonidas 20 M Emmet 18 M Clay 12 M Ellen 9 F Jasper Atchison 14 M 1870 US Baker Co., Al. Census Zebedee Latham 24 M Al Lourana C 20 F Martha E 1 F Morgan Huckabee 13 M W works on farm 1870 US Baker Co., AL. Census page 222A 11 August house no 61, Western Latham 25 M, Julia 25 F, CLayton 8 M, Susan 2 F, Emma 1/12 F born in March 1870 US Baker Co., AL. Census house no 127 Wm. T Lenore 37 M Planter Al Rebeca 25 F Al Robert C 7 M Josephene 6 F Lula 4 F Wm. C 3 M Ida 1 F Thos. Hambert 24 M W Farmer laborer 1880 US Chilton County, Al. Census Maplesville Roley Lathram 62 M NC Martha A 48 F wife William Pardue 25 M no relation 1880 US Hill Co., Texas District 77 p. 11 Ed 99 11 June house 99/107 Emmet Latham 23 AL AL AL Lucretia 22 wife TX NC NC Ida 8/12 dau b. Oct. Jabonz Latham 38 AL Fannie 35 wife Florence 15 son AL Julia 14 dau AL Emma [?] 12 dau AL Mary 8 dau TX Ava 6 dau TX Ada 6 dau TX Bula 4 dau TX Zilla 6/12 dau b. Dec. 1880 US Chilton Co., Al. Census Maplesville Leonedos Lathram 30 Lurane 30 wife Elisabeth 11 dau Frances 9 dau Mary 4 dau John 1 son [living next door to Elisha & Epsy Whatley. 2 houses down from brother Wesley] 1880 US Chilton Co., AL. Census Maplesville Wesley Lathram 30 Julia 30 wife Susa 12 dau Balzora 10 dau Edward L 8 son Lounera 6 dau Belvin W 4 son Issac D 1 son 1880 US Bell County, Texas Beat 3 house no 63/65 Lucurgus Lathan 31 M Farmer AL NC NC Mary 33 wife AL AL AL Richard 8 son TX Emmit 6 son Ellen 5 dau Wm 3 son Rolley 1 son Mary 2/12 dau born in May Harry Treatwell 27 B M Jno Wilton 32 cousin AL AL AL 1880 US Chilton Co., AL. Census Maplesville Henry Lathram 23 Mat 22 wife Dora 2 dau Alace 9 mo dau [living next door to his father] 1880 US Bibb County, Al. Census Randolph Joseph Shultz 28 Ellen 20 wife Bessie 2 dau Lemuel 1 son Estate papers Chilton County Alabama Probate Record Book 3 page 278 & 279. Listed that he died on 10 August 1894 in Chilton County Alabama. HEIRS: 1. E Latham - resides at Grady, Keech Co., Tx [this is Emmit] 2. J C Latham - resides at Aquilla, Hill Co., Tx [this is Jabez] 3. L C Latham - resides at Holland, Bell Co., Tx [this is Licurgus] 4. C W Latham - resides at Randolph, Bibb Co., AL. [this is Weston] 5. H C Latham - resides in Chilton Co., Al. [this is Henry Clay] 6. L Latham - resides at Plantersville, Chilton Co., AL. [Leonidas] 7. Ellen Shoults - wife of J H Shoults 8. Rebecca A Latham - deceased daughter was married three times A. W C Lenoir B. R C Lenoir C Ida Lenoir Apperson wife of D M Apperson D. Lula A Lenoir - wife of J H Mitchell E. Wilder Rebecca Lenoir wife of Henry Johnson F. Donnie Ross wife of Ben Harbins G. Kersia Weaver under 14 years of age H. Sady Weaver under 14 years of age CENSUS records for Martha Ann "Patsy" Smitherman Rominger Latham 1850 US Bibb CO., Al. Census page 53B taken 18th Nov. House no 717/717 [living next door to Cornelius Latham family] Chas Romanger 33 M Farmer PA can't read or write Martha 22 F NC can't read or write Levi 6 M AL Parolee 4 F AL 1860 US Bibb Co., Al. Census page 122. Charles Rominger 40 M Penn. Martha 26 F NC Lydia 16 F Al [this was actually Levi] Parilee 13 F AL 1870 haven't located her. 1880 US Chilton County, Al. Census Maplesville Roley Lathram 62 M NC Martha A 48 F wife William Pardue 25 M no relation 1880 US Bibb Co., AL. Census [living near James & Adaline Smitherman Garner] Lee Romager 31 Elizabeth 42 wife William 10 son Margaret 9 Dau Washington 7 son David 5 son Mary 3 dau Jinne Garner 17 step dau Chas. Romager 60 father PA England Pa Mary Fullenwider 35 MU Here are the census records for Mary & Martha Ann "Patsy" Smitherman's father THOMAS SMITHERMAN b. 21 November 1788 1830 US Randolph Co., NC Census Thomas Smitherman 2 males 10-15 [John 1818 age 12, Thomas 1819 age 11] 1 male 15-20 [William b. 1812 age 18] 1 male 40-50 [Thomas age 42 b. 1788] 2 females under 5 [Mary Ann "Patsy 1827 & Margaret 1828 age 2] 1 female 5-10 1 female 10-15 [Mary Ann 1815 age 15] 1 female 30-40 1840 Cherokee Co., GA 1 male 0-5 [this is probably James], 1 male 5-10 [this is going to be Noah], 1 male 40-50 [This is definately Thomas but he was actally 52], 2 females under 5 [this is probably Juliann and Adaline b. 1838], 3 females 10-15 [this would be Margaret 1828, Rachel 1830 and Elizabeth 1832] and 1 female 40-50 [this is Elizabeth] [NOTE: Mary was already in Bibb Co. Al at this time. She married Raleigh Latham in 1839. William & John were already in Bibb Co., Al. by 1840 Don't know where Thomas Jr. was at.] [NOTE: In 1850 Noah Smitherman is listed in the household of William Smitherman Jr.] 1850 US Bibb Co., AL. Census page 50 house no 665/665 Thomas Smitherman 65 M Farmer 400/ NC. Jane F SC. Juliann 16 F NC. James 13 M NC. Adaline 12 F GA. Wm. Mahan 3 M AL. Sarah Smitherman 1 F Al. [NOTE: Living next door to John Gardner household where nephew Rolly Smitherman was listed at the time of the census] 1860 US Bibb Co., AL. Census Page 758 & 59 Randolph 28 July, house no. 752/742 Thomas Smitherman 73 M Farmer 250/600 NC can't read/write Jane 28 F SC. William 13 M AL.[this is William Mahan] Margaret 11 F AL. Jesse 9 M AL. Lucy 6 F Al. Sarah 4 F AL. Marcus 7/12 F AL. NOTE: Even though Thomas's tombstone lists that he died in 1872, he is NOT listed in the 1870 US Bibb Co., Al. Census. It is possible that the year of death listed on his tombstone was incorrect and that he died in 1862 instead of 1872. If you need any additional information please contact me direct. May not can answer all of your questions but can probably answer a lot. Sincerely, Margie Smitherman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Margie_Smitherman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3731.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am also descended from JOHN BROWN b. ca 1818 Mecklenburg Co., NC and wife SUSAN LATHAM b. ca 1824 AL [dau. of Enoch Latham Sr. & Jane Hicks] through their son ENOCH HARRISON BROWN and 2nd wife MARGARET ELIZABETH GARNER SELF b. ca 1845 [dau. of William Garner & Nancy Latham {1st cousin of Susan Latham Brown. Nancy was the daughter of WILLIAM LATHAM Sr. and CATHERINE SMITHERMAN}] though son JACK BROWN b. Aug 1874/75 d. 24 March 1930 Tuscaloosa Co., AL. and wife ETTA GENTRY [this is my mother's grandparents] You stated in another post that you were looking for additional BROWN information. John Brown b. 1818 Mecklenburg Co., NC was the son of ENOCH BROWN and MARTHA "Patsy" WILSON. Martha "Patsy" was the daughter of Revolutionary War soldier JOHN WILSON and wife Elizabeth Smith. There is an estate for John Wilson in the Bibb County Alabama Probate files. From earlier records we know that John Wilson was born 20 December 1760 Mecklenburg County, NC and died 20 January 1838 Bibb Co. Al. and is buried in a private family cemetery near Randolph, Alabama on the present day property of B. Bolding. According to the Orphans Court Minutes, Bibb Co., AL. 1840 ENOCH BROWN and MARTHA "Patsy" Wilson had three children: JOHN BROWN who married Susan Latham and is our direct line, HARRIETT BROWN who married Bailey Latham [believe they moved to Madison Co., TN] and ENOCH M BROWN JR [no other information]. I am willing to share what little information I have on the family with you. You can email me direct for additional information. Sincerely, Margie Smitherman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.