Fannie Jones 1854 Richard Hill 1854 also called James Paralee Hill Henderson David Miller Henderson W. W. Sims Janie Boyd Sims Robert Solomon Ham/m 1848 Perry County

I have tried many years to find a death certificate, obit, or some such for John Postell MILAM, b. 09 Sep 1884 d. 1917. He died during the influenza epidemic. He was born in either Shelby or Bibb Co., is supposedly buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery in West Blockton. There is nothing written on the stone, but it is next to his father, John Henry MILAM so that is a good guess. The Frederick Clan lived in Bibb Co., West Blockton, Centreville, Randolph, etc. It is unknown where the father Simpson Louis Frederick was born. He married Alabama (Bama) Elizabeth Ferguson who was, I believe, born in Butler County. I know her father was. I haven't been able to fine any marriage info on Simpson Louis and Bama. Carol

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Real quiet so I thought I'd kick off a whatever it's called. Oliver P. Taylor and Susannah Webb still have me stumped. They were married Jan 24, 1837 in Bibb County Alabama. Their Daughter Delila Catherine, my great great grandmother, married William Bryant Hicks. They had another daughter that I know of Harriet Taylor. She is buried at Rehobeth. So are Delila and William. I've learned of some Mills connections if anyone's interested. Ric West

My maternal gt. grandparents were ANDREW DAVID SMITH, b. 30 June 1832 in Bledsoe Co., Tenn. and died 7 Feb. 1921 in West Blocton, Bibb Co., Ala., and JOANNA ELIZABETH CAFFEE (CALFEE), b. 12 Oct. 1837 at the Ben Caffee Place in Tuscaloosa Co. and died 20 Aug. 1905 in Scottsville, Bibb Co. A.D. Smith was the son of THOMAS SMITH and MARY C. VERNON. Joanna was the daughter of SAMUEL KING PRICE CALFEE and ELIZABETH P. VANCE. The written family information by a daughter of A.D. and Joanna is that THOMAS, b. 1803 (McCord's Cemetery Book) was from Shenandoah, Va. and MARY, 11 Feb 1803 - 18 Sept 1889 (grave marker in Vernon Cemetery, Bibb Co.), was from Rockingham Co., N.C. I have no other information on them. A.D. Smith raised his family in Scottsville, was in the Confederate Army 44th Ala. Regiment, Co. H, farmed and was a general merchant in Blocton, moving from Scottsville after the death of Joanna. More information on this family is on the Bibb GenWeb page, submitted by myself and also by Herman Belcher. The Caffee line has been researched extensively by Sue Gillespie and Ron Caffee, who have generously shared their gedcoms with me. My brick walls are the ancestors of Andrew David SMITH and Mary VERNON. Caroline Horton, List Administrator, Prattville, Ala.

Thanks Ric, the "whatever its called" is called a roll call and it was past time to "call" one. 1. Remember to do as Ric did and put your family member names in the subject line. Subject: TAYLOR, WEBB, HICKS, TUCKER, Delete the previous subject, including my "roll call". 2. Also delete the "tags" at the end of each posting before sending your post. 3. When replying to a post leave only the relevant info from the previous sender to whom you are replying. This really makes sense if you are subscribed in digest mode - reading the same posts over and over can be quite frustrating. Caroline Horton, List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric West" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] TAYLOR, WEBB, HICKS, TUCKER, > Real quiet so I thought I'd kick off a whatever it's called. > > Oliver P. Taylor and Susannah Webb still have me stumped. They were > married Jan 24, 1837 in Bibb County Alabama. Their Daughter Delila > Catherine, my great great grandmother, married William Bryant Hicks. They > had another daughter that I know of Harriet Taylor. She is buried at > Rehobeth. So are Delila and William. > > I've learned of some Mills connections if anyone's interested. > > Ric West > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xR.2ADE/1161.1230.1 Message Board Post: It's been several years since your post but I found that Sarah Jane Allen who was married to Thomas J. Lyons was born in Tuscaloosa Alabama to Albert and Unisia Allen. That is where I hit a dead end. I hope this helps. Ron Lyons [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/2330 Message Board Post: Need help in locating the grave site of Enoch Harrison Brown. He lived in the Randolph area of Bibb Co, and according to the Centreville Press died in June, 1902. I would welcome a response from anyone who knows where this grave site is located or anyone who is related to this line. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xR.2ADE/2031.2.2 Message Board Post: Benjamin Rigby signed Owen Shannon's will as a wittness April 12, 1935 in Montgomery County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colburn & Norwood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/2329.1 Message Board Post: I wanted to add that John Henry Colburn is not the son of John Colburn & Mary Melvina Norwood,he is their grandson. Also got death certificate on my great-grandmother Martha (Matt) (Colburn) Duncan. Dawna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colburn & Norwood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/2329 Message Board Post: Recently i was stuck on my Colburn relatives, so i orderd death certificates on three of them, Elizabeth Flavalia Colburn,John Henry Colburn & Mary Alice Colburn.It revealed that thier parents are John Colburn b.abt.1834,Sc. & Mary Melvina (Norwood) Colburn b. abt.1839,al. They had nine children, Margaret Elizabeth Colburn b.abt.1855 d.abt.1901,Milan co.Tx.,m:David Washington Nichols abt.1872,Perry co.Al.source:L.D.S. files. William Henry Colburn b:abt.1856 Al.,d:abt.1929,Tuscaloosa,Al.m: Rue Jane Elizabeth Doss,abt.1882,Al.souce:Ancestry World Tree Project. Nancy Catherine Colburn b:abt.1859,Al.d:?m:Nathan Levi Brewer, Al. source: L.D.S.files. John Colburn b:abt.1866,Al.d:abt.1932,Bibb Co,Al.m:Harriett Jane Ella Bracknell,abt.1894,Al.source:A.W.T.P. Elizabeth Flavalia Colburn b:abt.1868,d:1942,Bibb Co.Al.m:unknown,source:A.W.T.P. Charles C.Colburn b:abt.1870,Al.,d:abt.1928,Bibb Co.,Al.m:Gertrude,source:A.W.T.P. Giles W. Colburn b:abt.1876,Al.d:abt.1947,Al.m:Sarah,source:A.W! .T.P. David Franklin Colburn b:abt.1878,Perry Co.Al.d:abt.1930,Bibb Co.,Al.,m:(1) Savannah Hubbard,abt.1899,Bibb Co. Al.,m:(2)Lovie,source:A.W.T.P. Mary Alice Colburn b:abt.1880,Al.d:1963,m:unknown,source:A.W.T.P. I am posting this in hopes that it might help someone else. Dawna

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Candace Y. Owens (Miller) (b. 1861 Scottsville) > > In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:52:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I am sorry about my post...I was replying to whomever wrote to > Evelyn...about the OWENS man who lived below Lawley Al in 1920's and > 1930's...Sorry I said Candace...I sure thought you asked Evelyn to ask > her Mother about an Owens man who was blind......as I said, I have > stayed with my brother at the hospital for a week..I haven't slept n a > week...a few cat-naps so I will wait for the person to contact me on the > Owens. Stella > > > > Stella, > > Not to worry. I'm new to this Bibbs county genealogy board and not sure > how > it all works yet. I keep getting replies from other people meant for > others. No, I am trying to find out who my great grandmother's parents > were, she > was born in 1861 in Scottsville, Bibb County, AL and her name was Candace > Yucatan Owens. She later married a Miller who was killed and then a > Drouet and > then moved to Tennessee between 1886 and 1890. Candace was an orphan, so > I am > not totally sure that Owens was her biological name. I hope it wasn't > changed. Or then I'll probably never track her down. She was supposed > to have > been an orphan. > > Best regards, > > Paula Iles Restrepo, Dallas, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 11/4/2006 1:49:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, you may need to search both places, but it certainly sounds very feasible that you are on the right track with both Bibb county. I am Evelyn D Shimek. Evelyn, Oh my goodness, I am so sorry. I'm not sure how I got Ed. My parents best friends were Evelyn and Joe. And Evelyn was a dear dear person. She lived to be about 92. So I love the name Evelyn. You know, if I ever solve this mystery, it will be one of the most rewarding things, because I am close to the grandson of Candace Owens Drouet and her second husband, Amand Drouet, the ne'er do well from France. Was married 3 times. Although I do think that the first wife died of yellow fever in Florida in the early 1880's. But I do think he deserted my great grandmother and he remarried in Oklahoma. Candace always listed herself as a widow in the city directories in Port Arthur, but I think that Mr. Drouet told her he was going to find land in Oklahoma, and he just never came back and he remarried a younger woman there. AT any rate, they (Candace and Amand Drouet) had twin sons Joe and John in 1890 in Tennessee, who were my grandmother's half brothers. They remained very much a part of our family, they were my half great uncles. And one of them, John, he and his wife divorced and their son Raymond came to live with my father and and his family, Julia, daughter of Candace. Raymond was just a little boy when this happened, and his biological mother that was divorced from Uncle John, she was a hard woman, and she never mothered Raymond and he viewed my grandmother as his mother. And Raymond is now 86 and lives in East Texas, and for all the hard times he had as a young boy, he married a wonderful woman, and they live on a lake in East Texas in their retirement. Their son became very successful businessman in Houston, very well to do, and he has been so good to his parents. He has flown them all over the place and treated them so well. Raymond has received from his children and wife the love that his divorced parents never were able to give him. I have a photo of Candace as an older woman, and Raymond her grandson that she never knew because he was born in lets see, 1920, well, he was 4 years old when she died. But her photo looks like Raymond with a wig on. Lots of resemblance. I need to run, keep in touch, as I said, I have high hopes for this mystery I am looking to solve, like buried treasure. And BibbCounty could be the hunting ground. Best regards, Paula P.S. Eveyln, where do you live? Are your ancestors from Bibb County?

Yes, you may need to search both places, but it certainly sounds very feasible that you are on the right track with both Bibb county. I am Evelyn D Shimek. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Candace Y. Owens (Miller) (b. 1861 Scottsville) > Points well taken Ed. > > Ed, listen, I don't have proof that Candace was from Bibb County. > Scottsboro, which is in Jackson County, was once called Scottsville. I > went back and > looked where I got the Bibb County from, and it is only based on that I > found > a Candace Miller in the 1880 census in Scottsville, Bibb County, living > with > the Clarks. Since her daughter my grandmother said in a document that > she > was born "near Tuscaloosa" I assumed thatBibb County Scottsville was it. > However, I should probably look at Jackson County too, as later after > Candace > "hopefully" married Mr. Drouet the Frenchman, they moved to Tennessee, > Greenwood, family tradition says he was a brick mason, and we heard that > they followed > the construction of county courthouses sometimes. Jackson is way up > there > near the border of Tennessee, so at any rate, I probably need to research > both > places. > > Paula > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Points well taken Ed. Ed, listen, I don't have proof that Candace was from Bibb County. Scottsboro, which is in Jackson County, was once called Scottsville. I went back and looked where I got the Bibb County from, and it is only based on that I found a Candace Miller in the 1880 census in Scottsville, Bibb County, living with the Clarks. Since her daughter my grandmother said in a document that she was born "near Tuscaloosa" I assumed thatBibb County Scottsville was it. However, I should probably look at Jackson County too, as later after Candace "hopefully" married Mr. Drouet the Frenchman, they moved to Tennessee, Greenwood, family tradition says he was a brick mason, and we heard that they followed the construction of county courthouses sometimes. Jackson is way up there near the border of Tennessee, so at any rate, I probably need to research both places. Paula

Paula, I love the stories about Candace you just told. She sounds like a saucy, campy, woman with a free spirit ahead of her times. Don't be so hard on her. She probably would have become a great woman had she been born later!! And comments such as the one about the shades up are often misunderstood when told later. It's like the game "gossip". However, imagine having your own personality misinterpreted several generations from now because of one incident or sentence you said in your WHOLE life!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Candace Y. Owens (Miller) (b. 1861 Scottsville) > > In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:52:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I am sorry about my post...I was replying to whomever wrote to > Evelyn...about the OWENS man who lived below Lawley Al in 1920's and > 1930's...Sorry I said Candace...I sure thought you asked Evelyn to ask > her Mother about an Owens man who was blind......as I said, I have > stayed with my brother at the hospital for a week..I haven't slept n a > week...a few cat-naps so I will wait for the person to contact me on the > Owens. Stella > > > > Stella, > > Not to worry. I'm new to this Bibbs county genealogy board and not sure > how > it all works yet. I keep getting replies from other people meant for > others. No, I am trying to find out who my great grandmother's parents > were, she > was born in 1861 in Scottsville, Bibb County, AL and her name was Candace > Yucatan Owens. She later married a Miller who was killed and then a > Drouet and > then moved to Tennessee between 1886 and 1890. Candace was an orphan, so > I am > not totally sure that Owens was her biological name. I hope it wasn't > changed. Or then I'll probably never track her down. She was supposed > to have > been an orphan. > > Best regards, > > Paula Iles Restrepo, Dallas, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:52:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am sorry about my post...I was replying to whomever wrote to Evelyn...about the OWENS man who lived below Lawley Al in 1920's and 1930's...Sorry I said Candace...I sure thought you asked Evelyn to ask her Mother about an Owens man who was blind......as I said, I have stayed with my brother at the hospital for a week..I haven't slept n a week...a few cat-naps so I will wait for the person to contact me on the Owens. Stella Stella, Not to worry. I'm new to this Bibbs county genealogy board and not sure how it all works yet. I keep getting replies from other people meant for others. No, I am trying to find out who my great grandmother's parents were, she was born in 1861 in Scottsville, Bibb County, AL and her name was Candace Yucatan Owens. She later married a Miller who was killed and then a Drouet and then moved to Tennessee between 1886 and 1890. Candace was an orphan, so I am not totally sure that Owens was her biological name. I hope it wasn't changed. Or then I'll probably never track her down. She was supposed to have been an orphan. Best regards, Paula Iles Restrepo, Dallas, TX

In a message dated 11/4/2006 8:53:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Paula SORRY!!!!! I picked up Evelyn from one of the e-mail. I looked at it wrong. It was a Evelyn talking to you I have no record of this Clark family being connected to my family. My Clarks was on up north in Ala in Lawrence Co, Al. Our society has the Bibbs Co, Al book. Would be glad to do a lookup for you if you need me to. No I live in Mississippi. james clark James, Many thanks for your reply. My ggrandmother's name, which I may have wrongly assumed was her given birth name but nonetheless the name she went to the grave with was Candace Yucatan Owens Miller Drouet. She was born 1861, her file is in storage and I have not put my research on computer yet. So I presently do not have her exact month and day. In the funeral home records that I got for her burial, in 1924, her daughter, my grandmother (who died in 1981 at age 96 and my interest in genealogy came years after her death) it is written from word of my grandmother that her mother, Candace, was born in Scottsville, Alabama. Now that I think of it, isn't there another Scottsville in a different county? However, since my grandmother says later in a document that she was born near Tuscaloosa, ALabama, I assumed that her mother was born in the now gone Scottville, Bibb County, AL. AND, on Ancestry.com, there is a record although I do not know that origin of it, that says she was born in Bibb County, Alabama. I wonder if I could find out where the origin of that record is. That may uncover something too. Never thought of that. So, if you don't mind, when you can get to it, could you look in your book on Bibb County, and see if there is any reference to Owens or Miller. The problem is, that we always thought her first husband's name was John Miller, supposedly a fiddler of English birth. Grandmother told me that when Candace was pregnant with her, which would have been early 1886 or late 1885, that Miller was walking home from a dance he had played for late one night, and he was shot in the back and killed. Then I found a Candace Miller, a single female born 1861 in Scottsville, Bibb County, living as a household helper with a Thomas and Sarah Clark, and it says she is an orphan. This is too much of a coincidence. So was my grandmother illegitimate? Did Candace lie about her maiden name of Owens to cover u p her having a baby out of wedlock? Candace was known to be a very dramatic sort of salty character from a story I heard that my aunt told. My aunt (1907-1981 who married well and was a noble lady of grace) said that when she was about 14 and Candace was living with her daughter's family in Port Arthur, TX, that my aunt shared a bedroom with her in this little house. When they were getting ready for bed, Candace began to undress with the shades up on the window, and my aunt said "Grandmother, pull the shades to dress" and Candace said "No Erbel, leave them up, and maybe some man will desire me as David did Bathsheba". Maybe I'm making too much a judgment on her from that one story, but -- her second husband, a Frenchman, deserted her after about 15 years of marriage and twin sons. So I always thought he was a ne'er do well, but maybe she was hard to live with. Who knows. But a trait of dramatic story telling (not lying so much) is apparent in the granddaughters of my aunt, who was the granddaughter of Candace. Candace also had a pretty singing voice we heard. So, what I'm getting at is, did Candace lie about her background? All I know is that I don't think my Grandmother Julia Emma Miller Iles, ever talked about or told us much about her origins. She did tell me stories as a child about the old days, and but not about her origins. Sorry I got longwinded. Best regards, Paula Iles Restrepo

Thanks Ric...I try to read posts...I seem to get in trouble with someone if I post..Must be my age, .~grin~ My brother Gene Willis had hip surgery last Sunday Am....I had back surgery in February..I missed all the Bibb and Chilton reunions this year, but I get all my lists and read everyone of them, and do a little research. I have not been too active but still kicking up any old dusty records I can find! Thanks to all who post your names and dates, etc. Stella . Searching for info on WILLIS SAMMONS, MARTIN, ELLISON,GROVE, IVEY,CAGLE, BUSBY,WILLIAMS,COATS

I am sorry about my post...I was replying to whomever wrote to Evelyn...about the OWENS man who lived below Lawley Al in 1920's and 1930's...Sorry I said Candace...I sure thought you asked Evelyn to ask her Mother about an Owens man who was blind......as I said, I have stayed with my brother at the hospital for a week..I haven't slept n a week...a few cat-naps so I will wait for the person to contact me on the Owens. Stella