Charlotte, Not sure if this is worth your time, but my gggrandmother Candace Yucatan Owens born 1861 in Scottsville, Bibb County, was an orphan, no knowledge of her parents or when they died, she had my grandmother in 1886, named Julia Emma Miller, but supposedly was widowed when my grandmother was born, yet I find a Candace Miller in the 1880 census for Bibb County Scottsville, noted to be an orphan, born 1861, and living with a married couple middle age, I think they had the surname Thomas, and I sometimes wonder if my gg grandmother had my grandmother out of wedlock and her maiden name was Miller all along. I don't have any information about her alleged maiden name of Owens and the unusual middle name of Yucatan, yet on her gravestone in Port Arthur Texas, it says Candace Y. Drouet, she married a Frenchman named Amand Drouet somewhere between 1886 and 1890 and they moved to Tennessee, had twin boys, and still had my grandmother, and then they moved to Texas, lived there until Droue! t deserted her in about 1904 and moved to Oklahoma. She somehow moved with the 3 children to Louisiana and ran a boarding house there until my grandmother married and moved to Port Arthur, Texas, where Candace moved and lived with my grandmother and grandfather until her death in 1924. On a 1900 Texas census, I find Candace and Amand Drouet (aka A.V. Drouet) and Candace's parents are listed as being born in England. Otherwise, I know zero about her background. The only family story grandmother (1886-1981) told me was about a woman (I don't remember who but could have been her mother's mother) was working in the fields on a farm and it began to hail and it killed her, before she could find cover. Could Candace's mother have been killed when Candace was small, and could Candace's father have been killed in the Civil War, or could both parents have been killed in the Civil War? I cannot find Candace Yucatan Owens in any census before she was married, and I have found no marriage records for her either. If you have any records to search for her name or any Owens in Bibb County during those years, I would appreciate it. I still need to do research on her at the LDS library in Dallas. Thanks. Paula Iles Restrepo, Dallas, TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] [ALTUSCAL] Tuscaloosa DR 1 1818-1823 Looking for LAND PATENTS/ HOMESTEADS, Any Intel on: *JOHN HINTON*-(b-NC-circa- 1790-1843). Arrived in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL-(circa-early 1820's)-[ Marriage to an *EASTER (MONTGOMERY)- HINTON*-IN-1823! S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY,-[areas around-T24- R5-9], we Think in the *BEAR CREEK/ BEAR CREEK ROAD* areas. Our *JOHN-1790* was an Early Member of *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* and A "PREACHER"! He Helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE THE *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCH* - (circa early-1830's)! Looking for a COPY OF THE-BOOK-"LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK", for Inter-Library XFER! THANKS AND GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALTUSCAL] Tuscaloosa DR 1 1818-1823 Please check for Cason Ellis. Thank you. Hazel Sanders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlotte Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALTUSCAL] Tuscaloosa DR 1 1818-1823 I have just visited the ADAH website for local government records and noted they had microfilmed Tuscaloosa County Deed Record Book 1. But copies could not be purchased. I have transcribed the first 51 pages of this specific deed book with it's complete index provided as well. Digital images of this index are available to me should I need to check for errors in the transcription of the index. I will be happy to do lookups. The full name of each person of interest should be provided ... if available. Charlotte ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Thank You...Jacque

Stella, The "Index of Monuments" is a list of the graves with monuments. As with a lot of these old cemeteries, there are some unmarked graves. I just tried the links and they worked fine for me. I do know they are still working on the web site. If you continue to have a problem, let me know, and I'll be glad to pass the word to the page administrator. Jacque -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Mt Carmel Cemetery West Blocton Thanks for this info. The links are not compatble with WEBTV. I am sure I have folks buried there.Is that "Index of monuments" a list of names of people buried there? I tried it, and the search slot, I could never get it to open for me... Thanks very much, for all you send, Stella ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Looking for LAND PATENTS/ HOMESTEADS, Any Intel on: *JOHN HINTON*-(b-NC-circa- 1790-1843). Arrived in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL-(circa-early 1820's)-[ Marriage to an *EASTER (MONTGOMERY)- HINTON*-IN-1823! S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY,-[areas around-T24- R5-9], we Think in the *BEAR CREEK/ BEAR CREEK ROAD* areas. Our *JOHN-1790* was an Early Member of *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* and A "PREACHER"! He Helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE THE *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCH* - (circa early-1830's)! Looking for a COPY OF THE-BOOK-"LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK", for Inter-Library XFER! THANKS AND GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALTUSCAL] Tuscaloosa DR 1 1818-1823 Please check for Cason Ellis. Thank you. Hazel Sanders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlotte Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALTUSCAL] Tuscaloosa DR 1 1818-1823 I have just visited the ADAH website for local government records and noted they had microfilmed Tuscaloosa County Deed Record Book 1. But copies could not be purchased. I have transcribed the first 51 pages of this specific deed book with it's complete index provided as well. Digital images of this index are available to me should I need to check for errors in the transcription of the index. I will be happy to do lookups. The full name of each person of interest should be provided ... if available. Charlotte ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Jacque. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] Mt Carmel Cemetery West Blocton > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mtcarmelcemetary/ > > Those of you with relatives buried at Mt. Carmel Cemetery, West Blocton, > Bibb Co., AL, might be interested in this web site. > > Jacque

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/2330.1 Message Board Post: I have looked in the index of "Cemeteries of Bibb Co., Ala, 1817 - 1974" by Howard F. McCord. There is not a listing for Enoch Harrison Brown.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mtcarmelcemetary/ Those of you with relatives buried at Mt. Carmel Cemetery, West Blocton, Bibb Co., AL, might be interested in this web site. Jacque ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Thanks for this info. The links are not compatble with WEBTV. I am sure I have folks buried there.Is that "Index of monuments" a list of names of people buried there? I tried it, and the search slot, I could never get it to open for me... Thanks very much, for all you send, Stella

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ambrose and Cree Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/3706 Message Board Post: Bettie Ambrose born 1859,( daughter of Guston Ambrose and Siney Abston), was raised in Bibb Co. Bettie married Richard Cree on March 7, 1875. Richard Cree died February 1889. Bettie is listed on 1900 census living in Andrew Belcher home as cook, with 3 of her children. Richard G.(Richie), Mannie age 12, Walter age 9. Bettie died in Nov. 1910, she is buried at Elm Wood Cemetery in Birmingham, Alabama. Does anyone know what happen to Richard and Mannie? Walter is buried in Los Angles, California. I am a descendant of Guston Ambrose, any information will be appreciated.

Hi, Cousins SHUTTLESWORTH, CARNES, SNIDER, THOMPSON, WEAVER, Caudle Thought most of you may want to update your familytree...My Uncle Julian Carnes died this morning...He was the son Jessie Mae Shuttlesworth Carnes and Harmon Pat Carnes, d/o Eddie L. Shuttlesworth, s/o Benjamin S. Shuttlesworth... His obituary should be in the paper tomorrow or Friday...Not sure about the arrangement yet. May all of you have a Great Thanksgiving kim Twincerely, Kimberly Malone Morris 7949 Shelburne Lane E Southaven, MS 38672 Member of the Mothers of Multiples Club

Do you mean that you can't find their birth dates ( Taylor and Webb)?? -----

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xR.2ADE/1664.2 Message Board Post: Do you have any of the siblings of your William J Campbell? I am trying to find the parents of my gggrandfather, Samuel Pickens Campbell, who is listed as being born in Alabama. Samuel was born in 1832 in Alabama, but lived most of his life in Arkansas.

Just have to jump in here. My aunt, Hattie Thompson Thompson (Thompson was her maiden name and she married my Uncle, also a Thompson) owned Twix and Tween later and for many years. She may have bought it from the man that you mentioned. We always stopped there when we went to Brent/Centreville/Lawley for a treat....it was a great place and the food/ice cream was the best. My Dad loved the bar-b-que. You brought back memories. Patricia Gentry Cassity ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] marriage records needed in Bibb Caroline...I truly wish you could experience a trip to "Twix and Tween" as I knew it in the 1940's. It was the greyhound bus stop, from Montgomery to Tuscaloosa,(and vice-versa) so you tried to avoid those hours! The old man is gone now...that did the cooking of the large pork shoulders or loins or whatever...over the hickory wood all day.The smell was out of this world, coming from the chimney... only a very few automobiles to be seen.The town of Centreville was up on the hill...had not spread out, like today. To get a barbeque sandwich, ...with a large drink then, would fill you up.I remember the big dill pickle that went with it..on the plate! I always asked for an extra pickle! I can just see him, standing over that big grill...with the handheld rag mop...putting the sauce, or whatever the secret was...on the meat as it cooked. When a date took us to eat there...it was a real treat! Their specialty was also " Lemon icebox pie" Sometimes we could afford it! The waitress always went through the back side door to get it, I guess, the kitchen. The big sandwiches were made right there at the grill, while your mouth watered...(Ever heard that?)...a long counter was there...you could stand there and get them made to go, too.(we didn't have phones to call ahead for orders) How about that now...kids would laugh at us, huh? Stella . Caroline wrote: And stopping a Twix N Tween is a "trip in itself". And . . . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Caroline...I just bet...Walter and others could add more than I can about Centreville and T&T Bbq...back when. As I was remembering it..as it was, I suppose the street was much narrower...because we parked in front and used the front door...the buses pulled in back...people off the buses used the side door.I can't recall what was on corner that has service station and parking lot now...The waitress wrote out the ticket on little receipt books...and you went up front to pay on way out.The beautiful little lady (probably owner's wife) stuck it on a wire holder...rang up amount on a cash register.There were houses all around there,then..Belcher Lumber was well known, there across the highway, back aways. Big homes were in Centreville as I remember...with big lawns and trees.Brent was a long way to drive..., lol...times sure change.What I miss the most is the fields and things growing! Stella

Wonderful memories. There are only a few other places I'll stop for BBQ. One is the Green Top on the Walker-Jefferson line - the "County Line"; another is in Union Springs. Thanks for letting us know what it was like to eat at the original Twix N Tween. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] marriage records needed in Bibb Caroline...I truly wish you could experience a trip to "Twix and Tween" as I knew it in the 1940's. It was the greyhound bus stop, from Montgomery to Tuscaloosa,(and vice-versa) so you tried to avoid those hours! . . . while your mouth watered...(Ever heard that?)...Stella . Caroline wrote: And stopping at Twix N Tween is a "trip in itself".

Caroline...I truly wish you could experience a trip to "Twix and Tween" as I knew it in the 1940's. It was the greyhound bus stop, from Montgomery to Tuscaloosa,(and vice-versa) so you tried to avoid those hours! The old man is gone now...that did the cooking of the large pork shoulders or loins or whatever...over the hickory wood all day.The smell was out of this world, coming from the chimney... only a very few automobiles to be seen.The town of Centreville was up on the hill...had not spread out, like today. To get a barbeque sandwich, ...with a large drink then, would fill you up.I remember the big dill pickle that went with it..on the plate! I always asked for an extra pickle! I can just see him, standing over that big grill...with the handheld rag mop...putting the sauce, or whatever the secret was...on the meat as it cooked. When a date took us to eat there...it was a real treat! Their specialty was also " Lemon icebox pie" Sometimes we could afford it! The waitress always went through the back side door to get it, I guess, the kitchen. The big sandwiches were made right there at the grill, while your mouth watered...(Ever heard that?)...a long counter was there...you could stand there and get them made to go, too.(we didn't have phones to call ahead for orders) How about that now...kids would laugh at us, huh? Stella . Caroline wrote: And stopping a Twix N Tween is a "trip in itself".   And . . .

Well, I usually "trip" for about an hour and a half when I go to Bibb County *with John Brown*. And stopping a Twix N Tween is a "trip in itself". And . . . thanks for those batch numbers, Joni and Melissa. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] marriage records needed in Bibb >I think you mean LDS, LSD would involve a much different trip! LOL > > > Joni wrote: >> Hi Caroline, >> >> >> Melissa sent us a list some time ago that I kept showing the LSD Batch #s >> etc. for several counties in Al that was filmed. Marriage records can be >> searched by these batches and if a person wants to wiew the original they >> only need go to their local LSD Library (they are all over) and request >> it >> be sent to them for viewing. Here is the email document she sent. Bibb is >> the second on her list. >> >> Joni

I think you mean LDS, LSD would involve a much different trip! LOL Joni wrote: > Hi Caroline, > > > Melissa sent us a list some time ago that I kept showing the LSD Batch #s > etc. for several counties in Al that was filmed. Marriage records can be > searched by these batches and if a person wants to wiew the original they > only need go to their local LSD Library (they are all over) and request it > be sent to them for viewing. Here is the email document she sent. Bibb is > the second on her list. > > Joni > > > > Family Search Batch Numbers > > Below are batch numbers I have made note of in my research searching > familysearch.org (lds site). I hope they help you as much as they have me > in > finding "elusive" marriages because of misspellings, etc. > > To search by Batch# at familysearch.org, click on the "search" tab when the > main page loads. Then click on "International Genealogical Index" (4th item > > down on left side of page). At this page you can enter as little or as much > > information as you have as long as you enter one of the batch numbers below > and > set the "region" to North America. > > The items to the left below are the batch numbers separated by county with > the > years covered to the right. You will notice that some counties have > overlapping records . . . and it is worth it to check EVERY occurrence of > the > year. > > Good Luck! > > Melissa > > > Autauga County > > M541602 1834 - 1865 > > M541603 1865-1873 > > > Bibb County > > M593121 1818 (few) to 1834 with a (1) 1837 > > M593122 1818-1837 (6) no 1837, few 1818 > > M593123 1818-1836, couple of 1837 and a few 1818 > > M593126 1820-1868 > > M593125 1869 - 1881 > > M593124 1881-1896 > > > Chilton County > > M526001 1870 - 1883 > > M526002 1883 - 1895 > > > Jefferson County > > M584732 1856-1868 > > M584733 1871-1880 > > M584734 1880-1884 > > M584737 1889-1891 > > M584738 1891-1893 > > > Shelby County > > M594701 1824- 1876 (1) in 1824 > > M594702 1876-1895 > > > Dallas County > > M593002 1818 - 1865 > > M593003 1862 - 1890 > > M593004 1890 - 1895 > > M593005 1870 - 1881 > > M593006 1883 - 1888 > > M593007 1888 - 1893 > > M593008 1893 - 1896 > > > Coosa > > M593151 1834 - 1865 > > M593152 1865 - 1884 > > M593153 1884 - 1892 > > M593154 1892 - 1895 > > > ARKANSAS > Greene > > M585981 1876 - 1890 > > M585982 1890-1895 > > > > MISSISSIPPI > Monroe > > M520151 1821 - 1825 > > M520152 1834 - 1850 > > M520153 1850 - 1858 > > M520154 1858 - 1867 > > Tishomingo > > M516711 1842 - 1850 > > M516712 1850 - 1855 > > M516713 1855 - 1859 > > M516715 1865 - 1867 > > M516716 1867 - 1874 > > M516717 1866 - 1872 > > TENNESSEE > Lincoln > > M519461 1838 - 1885 > > M519462 1881 - 1883 > > M519464 1886 - 1890 > > M519465 1890 - 1900 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of caroline > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ALBIBB] marriage records needed in Bibb > > > Please correct me if need be, cuzins. It is *possible* that the records > were microfilmed by the LDS team a few years ago and can be obtained thru > your local LDS Family History Center or other repository that is approved > for LDS microfilm in Dallas. > > Is there anyone on this list who lives in Bibb Co. and could do the look-up > at the probate office? I do this often in Autauga Co. > > Also, you can try calling or writing the probate office in Centreville, > although many clerks no longer have the time to pull individual records. > > Other suggestions? > > Caroline Horton, > List Administrator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] ALBIBB Digest, Vol 1, Issue 71 > > > >> Can you direct me where to go to look for marriage records from Bibb >> County, >> from about 1885? Thanks. >> >> Looking for my orphaned great grandmother, Candace Yucatan Owens or >> Candace >> Miller to a John Miller or other name from about 1884-1886; and then >> also >> to Amand Victor Drouet in about 1886-89. >> >> Thanks much. >> >> Paula Restrepo, Dallas >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Caroline, Melissa sent us a list some time ago that I kept showing the LSD Batch #s etc. for several counties in Al that was filmed. Marriage records can be searched by these batches and if a person wants to wiew the original they only need go to their local LSD Library (they are all over) and request it be sent to them for viewing. Here is the email document she sent. Bibb is the second on her list. Joni Family Search Batch Numbers Below are batch numbers I have made note of in my research searching familysearch.org (lds site). I hope they help you as much as they have me in finding "elusive" marriages because of misspellings, etc. To search by Batch# at familysearch.org, click on the "search" tab when the main page loads. Then click on "International Genealogical Index" (4th item down on left side of page). At this page you can enter as little or as much information as you have as long as you enter one of the batch numbers below and set the "region" to North America. The items to the left below are the batch numbers separated by county with the years covered to the right. You will notice that some counties have overlapping records . . . and it is worth it to check EVERY occurrence of the year. Good Luck! Melissa Autauga County M541602 1834 - 1865 M541603 1865-1873 Bibb County M593121 1818 (few) to 1834 with a (1) 1837 M593122 1818-1837 (6) no 1837, few 1818 M593123 1818-1836, couple of 1837 and a few 1818 M593126 1820-1868 M593125 1869 - 1881 M593124 1881-1896 Chilton County M526001 1870 - 1883 M526002 1883 - 1895 Jefferson County M584732 1856-1868 M584733 1871-1880 M584734 1880-1884 M584737 1889-1891 M584738 1891-1893 Shelby County M594701 1824- 1876 (1) in 1824 M594702 1876-1895 Dallas County M593002 1818 - 1865 M593003 1862 - 1890 M593004 1890 - 1895 M593005 1870 - 1881 M593006 1883 - 1888 M593007 1888 - 1893 M593008 1893 - 1896 Coosa M593151 1834 - 1865 M593152 1865 - 1884 M593153 1884 - 1892 M593154 1892 - 1895 ARKANSAS Greene M585981 1876 - 1890 M585982 1890-1895 MISSISSIPPI Monroe M520151 1821 - 1825 M520152 1834 - 1850 M520153 1850 - 1858 M520154 1858 - 1867 Tishomingo M516711 1842 - 1850 M516712 1850 - 1855 M516713 1855 - 1859 M516715 1865 - 1867 M516716 1867 - 1874 M516717 1866 - 1872 TENNESSEE Lincoln M519461 1838 - 1885 M519462 1881 - 1883 M519464 1886 - 1890 M519465 1890 - 1900 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of caroline Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] marriage records needed in Bibb Please correct me if need be, cuzins. It is *possible* that the records were microfilmed by the LDS team a few years ago and can be obtained thru your local LDS Family History Center or other repository that is approved for LDS microfilm in Dallas. Is there anyone on this list who lives in Bibb Co. and could do the look-up at the probate office? I do this often in Autauga Co. Also, you can try calling or writing the probate office in Centreville, although many clerks no longer have the time to pull individual records. Other suggestions? Caroline Horton, List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] ALBIBB Digest, Vol 1, Issue 71 > Can you direct me where to go to look for marriage records from Bibb > County, > from about 1885? Thanks. > > Looking for my orphaned great grandmother, Candace Yucatan Owens or > Candace > Miller to a John Miller or other name from about 1884-1886; and then > also > to Amand Victor Drouet in about 1886-89. > > Thanks much. > > Paula Restrepo, Dallas > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you direct me where to go to look for marriage records from Bibb County, from about 1885? Thanks. Looking for my orphaned great grandmother, Candace Yucatan Owens or Candace Miller to a John Miller or other name from about 1884-1886; and then also to Amand Victor Drouet in about 1886-89. Thanks much. Paula Restrepo, Dallas