This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawhorn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/829.833.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have any more on Cornelia Jane but for the ancestry of John, see http://www.goldwingbums.org/genealogy/p337.htm#i16817

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawhorn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/829.833.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have any more on Cornelia Jane but for the ancestry of John, see http://www.goldwingbums.org/genealogy/p337.htm#i16817

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/829.833.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Saw this message and wondered if you have anymore info on John and cornelia jean. Possibly their marriage or heritage or family , mother or father etc. Doing my tree and the lawhon side includes John as the brother of my gggrandfather but no info on parents or siblings. Knew family came from carolinas, passed through alabama where my gggrandfather was born. John was born in NC but to who???Please help me if you can.....

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/829.833.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Saw this message and wondered if you have anymore info on John and cornelia jean. Possibly their marriage or heritage or family , mother or father etc. Doing my tree and the lawhon side includes John as the brother of my gggrandfather but no info on parents or siblings. Knew family came from carolinas, passed through alabama where my gggrandfather was born. John was born in NC but to who???Please help me if you can.....

Ric. Welcome back to Bama.I read where you said someone had seen the graves while logging. This sounds like Walter. He is the one who told me all about Sand Mountain, and said he cut logs from there. Hope you have a splendid time, and find what you are looking for. I wish I could do that, explore all the places south of Lawley. Stella

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! There I said it so sue me. If the stores can start Xmas before my turkey has digested then I can start MERRY CHRISTMAS too. I'll be home for Christmas (Yes I know it's a song title) and plan on doing some trekking in the woods around Randolph. Actually south of Randolph in what used to be, and still might be, the Tucker community. Benjamin and Elizabeth Smitherman Tucker are supposedly buried in the Tucker Cemetery that is reported to be located "South of Randolph near Tucker". Someone on the list wrote to me and said they'd seen the graves there in the woods in their youth while logging. Can't remember who. Does anyone know anyone that lives in that area? Or is anyone familiar with that area? Ric

Also, most of us leave a second set of car keys hanging on a hook or laying in view, or on a dresser.....some "low lifes" added insult to injury a few years ago when they stole the car that was in the garage. I guess they needed something to drive with all the stuff they took. We have a standing safe (about 2ft x 4 ft) with just papers in it (credit card receipts, pictures, things in case of a fire). Both times our house has been burglerized, the safe seems to have slowed the thieves down. They spent so much time looking for money in the safe (wasn't any), they missed alot of pawnable items. We have a safety deposit box for old coins, wills, jewelry. There is also something to be said for cluttered closets as being a good place to hide stuff (I should know)! By the way, our two dogs probably tried to lick them to death! Liz in Houston ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:31:08 AM EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] More on Breakins and Thievery Some VERY important things to tell all of you. Do NOT use "two-way deadbolts" on any of your doors or have something that you cannot get out of without using a key as a means of opening it to exit your home. My husband is a coroner, has been for 40 years. He has pulled so many dead people out of house fires who had those things including locking burglar bars that it would scare you senseless. MANY of them found on the floor with the key in their hands, or the key still in the door, but they were unable to use it. In a house fire "seconds" lost trying to fumble for or with a key means the difference between life or death. EVEN if the key is "handy" you may not have the preservation of mind to use it due to the overwhelming effects of the smoke.............it causes GREAT disorientation. When plastic burns it creates cyanide gases and other items in the house also add contaminates to the smoke as well. Your oxygen level drops as does your ability to reason and function from inhaling the smoke We ALL have plastics of some kind in our home. I have never known of anyone who can tolerate smoke from a bar-b-que grill, a wood fire, etc........but you take the black and very sooty smoke from a housefire and it is multiplied several hundred times over to what a simple wood or grill fire smoke does to your system. Firemen, coroners, and other officials who have been witness to these events NEVER use "two-way" deadbolts, or ANYTHING that would keep them from exiting the house in case of fire or home invasion. A two-way deadbolt is one that has to be opened with a key from inside the house. Same with burglar bars, windows, etc. You can use them regularly without problem, but in the confusion and excitement (not to mention terror) and the effects of smoke and or possible threat of physical bodily harm due to someone trying to enter another location of your house, you will not be able to respond effectively and it can cost you your life. We have storm windows and security doors that use plexiglass, it is practically unbreakable, it will crack, but not break. Those doors are also one-way deadbolts. The security doors are patterned metal, but are what is known as "full coverage" in that there is not space enough to get a hand through them and they have two locks on each door. Both of them one-way deadbolts, just turn the knob and they will easily open. Just last week my husband worked a housefire and the man was found at his window with the key to his burglar bars in his hand, the door exits were inaccessible due to the fire. So, folks, please pay attention to this one, everyone thinks they can respond in these situations, but housefire smoke, and/or some kind of home invasion are not "normal" happenings and everyone does panic in them, no matter how many times you practice exiting the house. A good example of that kind of "nervous apprehension" is where you were very nearly in an automobile accident, but managed to escape it. You are shaking, your adrenilin is up, your heart is racing, you are breathing heavy (in case of fire inhale more smoke if this happens). Calmness just does not occur in situations where your life is in danger. I just hope this helps someone. My husband changed out the locks on my grandmother's house the first time he saw them, from two-way, to the one-way deadbolts. She was unaware of the danger, but when he explained to her what usually happens in the case of having to use a key to exit anything in case of fire, etc. she was more than glad he took the time to do it. J Parker ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

10DEC06 To; MISS. DELILAH- LIST- RE; ANCESTRY-LOOK-UPS MISS. DELILAH; When you have the time we are Looking for the Following; "Marriage Intel" on- *NAOMIE (HINTON)-MONTGOMERY*-(b. AL-circa- 1888-1953)--Youngest Daughter of-*REV. JOHN HINTON*-(b. AL- circa- 1832-1915) & *RHODA (THOMPSON)-HINTON*- of TUSCALOOSA, AL.-["BETHABARA & TABERNACLE BAPT. CHURCHS]. Husband-#1-[?]-HOMER MONTGOMERY-(b. AL- circa- 1880-1920's)--Marriage- (circa- 1911-after- 1910- Census)--some sources say- "HOMER Returned from *WW-1*, and DIED of His WAR-WOUNDS-(circa- 1920's)"-- Can't Find CENSUS Intel and/ or Anything on HOMER? Children;--Looking for-"1920"-CENSUS Intel, and/ or Anything. [*ULYSSES Grant* - (b.AL-1911-1978)-Born in PICKENS COUNTY-pos. TUSC.]-*ULYSSES Was "Adopted Out" to a *HINTON Relative after *HOMERS* DEATH- (circa 1920?). [*RUBY Frances- (b.AL-1918----)-still alive-Born in PICKENS COUNTY, AL]! HUSBAND-#2-*ROBERT J. BURKE*-Of FAYETTE COUNTY, AL? They were Married Prior to the "1930-FAYETTE-CENSUS"! Looking for Any Intel. Thanks and GOD BLESS MERRY CHRISTMAS SEMPER FI BA SURNAMES: HINTON, MONTGOMERY, BURKE, BROWN, MCCLELLAND, and extended families In GA & AL.! -----Original Message----- From: Delilah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:44 PM To: Ayers, B. J. Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request I have Ancestry and will look up any census for anybody, they have to give me time and may have to remind me as my memory is not as good as it should be the reason that says 'bounces' when a person sends a message to a list and is not a member of that list, it will bounce back to the person delilah evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request | To; MISS. SHANNON MCCLELLAND- | LIST; | | | Greetings-MISS. MCCLELLAND- | | We are looking for any Intel on early *MCCLELLAND's* in the NE GEORGIA, | and WILKES COUNTY Areas. | | We Had a - *JAMES MONTGOMERY* - An Ancestor Married to a *MCCLELLAND* | -(circa- late 1700's),in NE GEORGIA[pos. WILKES]?? | NC>>SC>>GA>>. | SURNAMES: MONTGOMERY, MCCLELLAND, HINTON, BROWN. | -----Original Message----- | From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] | On Behalf Of Shannon McClelland | Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:41 PM | To: [email protected]; Vanessa C. Schatz | Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request | | I thought you could only do a request for yourself on the census not for | | other people. | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> | To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> | Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:23 AM | Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request | | | >I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a | special | > request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think | it | > was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid | ($35?); | > and | > must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to | > supply | > a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has | > anyone | > tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. | > | > Vanessa |

10DEC06 To; MISS. SAHANNON MCCLELLAND- LIST- RE; *MCCLELLAND* FAMILY-NC to GA and points West- MISS. SHANNON; If we remember right these *MCCLELLANDS* that we are looking for originated in the "LANCASTER, PA" areas--- [SCOT-IRISH]? Some sources say- Our *MONTGOMERY*--- *MCCLELLAND*---and *MCCONNELL* Families came down the "Great Wagon Trail"-- PA to NC- (circa- pre- REV. WAR-1750-1760's]-Then Migrated west- NC>>SC>>GA>>ALABAMA!!! Looking for any Intel on the above. Thanks to One & All For all the answers, & Intel, and GOD BLESS MERRY CHRISTMAS SEMPER FI BA SURNAMES: MONTGOMERY,HINTON,BROWN,MCCONNELL, & MCCLELLAND. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shannon McClelland Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request Sorry my McClelland's are from Pennsylvania. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > To; MISS. SHANNON MCCLELLAND- > LIST; > > > Greetings-MISS. MCCLELLAND- > > We are looking for any Intel on early *MCCLELLAND's* in the NE GEORGIA, > and WILKES COUNTY Areas. > > We Had a - *JAMES MONTGOMERY* - An Ancestor Married to a *MCCLELLAND* > -(circa- late 1700's),in NE GEORGIA[pos. WILKES]?? > NC>>SC>>GA>>. > SURNAMES: MONTGOMERY, MCCLELLAND, HINTON, BROWN. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Shannon McClelland > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:41 PM > To: [email protected]; Vanessa C. Schatz > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > > I thought you could only do a request for yourself on the census not for > > other people. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> > To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:23 AM > Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > > >>I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a > special >> request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think > it >> was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid > ($35?); >> and >> must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to >> supply >> a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has >> anyone >> tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. >> >> Vanessa >>

10DEC06 To; MISS.EVELYN MISS. LIZ LIST RE; Our gggrandfather- *REV. JOHN HINTON* - (b. JOCO, NC- circa- 1790-1870). *OLD SARDIS* & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- 1820-1830's) ---TUSCALOOSA, AL. Thanks for the Reply's to one & all. (1)- We are in contact with SAMFORD UNIV. @ Present, Awaiting Feed back. (2)- We have made Contact with "ALABAMA BAPTIST", but have not thought of The National, Will Check with them. Any other Intel or Direction would be greatly appreciated. Looking for the below *HINTON FAMILY*, and any Other *HINTON* or Extended Families. Family orig. from JOCO, NC, Short Stops in [Unknown] GEORGIA COUNTY[s]? He was of the-*JOHN HINTON* - (b. NC- circa- 1715) & GRIZZELL (KIMBROUGH) -HINTON FAMILY*. Again Thanks and GOD BLESS MERRY CHRISTMAS SEMPER FI BA SURNAMES; HINTON--MONTGOMERY--BROWN--& The *HARDY CLEMENTS FAMILY*. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evelyn Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ALTUSCAL] Fw: [ALBIBB] Rev. John Hinton ----- Original Message ----- From: "liz hicks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Rev. John Hinton > BA, > Have you asked Samford University in Birmingham if they have > anything on your Rev. John Hinton? They have the "Alabama Baptist > Newspapers" and various Baptist church minutes. > > I do not know if it will help, but my husband's g.g. grandfather, > Rev. Isaac M. Hicks suffered a stroke while preaching a revival > at the Sardis Baptist Church ca. 1886. His family was from > 1770's Randolph County, NC, present day Jasper county, GA 1808-1818. > > I received info. from the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc., 1700 > Baptist > World Center Drive, Nashville, TN 37207 on a Texas Baptist > preacher (1910). You might write them and ask if they have an > info. I would also google his name-"Rev. John Hinton" as one > never knows what will turn up. Liz Hicks > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:49:47 AM EST > From: "caroline" <[email protected]> > To: "BIBB" <[email protected]> > Subject: [ALBIBB] Rev. John Hinton > > From: [email protected] : > > We are trying to match our gg-grandfather- *REV.JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, > NC-circa 1790-1843) - to one of these Early- *HINTON FAMILIES*- in the > S.W. > TUSCALOOSA- BEAR CREEK/ BEAR CREEK ROAD areas! > > Our Mother told Stories of "Granny-[*NAOMIE (HINTON)* -] Going down and > 'Playing on the Family- Farm' in that area". > > Some sources think that gg-grandpa may be of -*THESE HINTON'S*- ??? > > What we do Know: > > (1)- *REV.JOHN HINTON**-(b. NC-circa- 1790-1843)- > > Married- *1823* in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY"- *EASTER (MONTGOMERY) -HINTON*- (b. > GA. circa 1797-1870)! > > (2)- He had several early- *Land- Patents*- [circa late 1820's thru > 1840's] > the areas between (what was- T22 & T24- R-5-9) - Before *JOHN S-(jr)*- > Moved > the Family to the NORTHPORT/ BROWNSVILLE areas] - in the areas-between T22 > & > T24- R-6-9! > > (3)- He was Long-time friends and neighbors with the -*HARDY CLEMENTS > FAMILY*. > > (4)- He was an Early Member of the- *OLD SARDIS* & *GILGAL BAPTIST > CHURCHS*! > > They were Charter Members and helped Organize- *GILGAL BAPTIST*- in the > "1830's"! > > Any Intel or any Light you can shed on the above would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks and GOD BLESS > > SEMPER FI > > BA

Sorry my McClelland's are from Pennsylvania. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > To; MISS. SHANNON MCCLELLAND- > LIST; > > > Greetings-MISS. MCCLELLAND- > > We are looking for any Intel on early *MCCLELLAND's* in the NE GEORGIA, > and WILKES COUNTY Areas. > > We Had a - *JAMES MONTGOMERY* - An Ancestor Married to a *MCCLELLAND* > -(circa- late 1700's),in NE GEORGIA[pos. WILKES]?? > NC>>SC>>GA>>. > SURNAMES: MONTGOMERY, MCCLELLAND, HINTON, BROWN. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Shannon McClelland > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:41 PM > To: [email protected]; Vanessa C. Schatz > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > > I thought you could only do a request for yourself on the census not for > > other people. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> > To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:23 AM > Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request > > >>I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a > special >> request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think > it >> was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid > ($35?); >> and >> must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to >> supply >> a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has >> anyone >> tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. >> >> Vanessa >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dogs are a burgulars nightmare. If someone poisons your dog, be on your toes! chuck >From: "caroline" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: "Grady Greene" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] More on Breakins and Thievery >Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:34:48 -0600 > >These helpful hints about protecting our valuables have been great - >thanks, >all, and keep 'em coming! > >Who knows, some thief might want the picture of gt. grandma, not >necessarily for the picture but the large gilded frame for sale to antique >dealers. And, as in Jacque's case, they wind up not only with a good >computer but a family history that they don't want and which is "tossed" or >deleted as a result. > >When we had our alarm system installed some 25 years ago the rep told us >that we had already done something that is one of the best deterrents - >screws to "lock" the top and bottom window sashes. Of course, this only >works for wooden frames. And, we keep a screw key on a table by at least >one window in the room (but not close enough to reach in case glass is >broken) or in a place that is convenient if we need to unlock the window in >case of fire. > >Caroline _________________________________________________________________ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/740.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My name is Howard Caddis. Charlie Caddis was my great grandfather. Thomas eledrege Caddis was my Grandfather. My dad is Howard E. Caddis Sr. Charlies Mother my great great grand Mother was Marth (Mary) Codwiser. She is Buried with her three sons at Pondville,Al.

To; MISS. SHANNON MCCLELLAND- LIST; Greetings-MISS. MCCLELLAND- We are looking for any Intel on early *MCCLELLAND's* in the NE GEORGIA, and WILKES COUNTY Areas. We Had a - *JAMES MONTGOMERY* - An Ancestor Married to a *MCCLELLAND* -(circa- late 1700's),in NE GEORGIA[pos. WILKES]?? NC>>SC>>GA>>. SURNAMES: MONTGOMERY, MCCLELLAND, HINTON, BROWN. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shannon McClelland Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:41 PM To: [email protected]; Vanessa C. Schatz Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request I thought you could only do a request for yourself on the census not for other people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:23 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request >I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a special > request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think it > was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid ($35?); > and > must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to > supply > a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has > anyone > tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. > > Vanessa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some VERY important things to tell all of you. Do NOT use "two-way deadbolts" on any of your doors or have something that you cannot get out of without using a key as a means of opening it to exit your home. My husband is a coroner, has been for 40 years. He has pulled so many dead people out of house fires who had those things including locking burglar bars that it would scare you senseless. MANY of them found on the floor with the key in their hands, or the key still in the door, but they were unable to use it. In a house fire "seconds" lost trying to fumble for or with a key means the difference between life or death. EVEN if the key is "handy" you may not have the preservation of mind to use it due to the overwhelming effects of the smoke.............it causes GREAT disorientation. When plastic burns it creates cyanide gases and other items in the house also add contaminates to the smoke as well. Your oxygen level drops as does your ability to reason and function from inhaling the smoke We ALL have plastics of some kind in our home. I have never known of anyone who can tolerate smoke from a bar-b-que grill, a wood fire, etc........but you take the black and very sooty smoke from a housefire and it is multiplied several hundred times over to what a simple wood or grill fire smoke does to your system. Firemen, coroners, and other officials who have been witness to these events NEVER use "two-way" deadbolts, or ANYTHING that would keep them from exiting the house in case of fire or home invasion. A two-way deadbolt is one that has to be opened with a key from inside the house. Same with burglar bars, windows, etc. You can use them regularly without problem, but in the confusion and excitement (not to mention terror) and the effects of smoke and or possible threat of physical bodily harm due to someone trying to enter another location of your house, you will not be able to respond effectively and it can cost you your life. We have storm windows and security doors that use plexiglass, it is practically unbreakable, it will crack, but not break. Those doors are also one-way deadbolts. The security doors are patterned metal, but are what is known as "full coverage" in that there is not space enough to get a hand through them and they have two locks on each door. Both of them one-way deadbolts, just turn the knob and they will easily open. Just last week my husband worked a housefire and the man was found at his window with the key to his burglar bars in his hand, the door exits were inaccessible due to the fire. So, folks, please pay attention to this one, everyone thinks they can respond in these situations, but housefire smoke, and/or some kind of home invasion are not "normal" happenings and everyone does panic in them, no matter how many times you practice exiting the house. A good example of that kind of "nervous apprehension" is where you were very nearly in an automobile accident, but managed to escape it. You are shaking, your adrenilin is up, your heart is racing, you are breathing heavy (in case of fire inhale more smoke if this happens). Calmness just does not occur in situations where your life is in danger. I just hope this helps someone. My husband changed out the locks on my grandmother's house the first time he saw them, from two-way, to the one-way deadbolts. She was unaware of the danger, but when he explained to her what usually happens in the case of having to use a key to exit anything in case of fire, etc. she was more than glad he took the time to do it. J Parker

#1-you have to know where they were living in 1940 #2-it costs $65.00 which covers one census for one person only. #3-it is form BC-600 US Dept. of Commerce One can use city directories for address for people in cities, but do not know what address one would give for say, Randolph, AL, etc. Clayton Library here in Houston has form and instructions. I can mail you copies, but will have to ask for reimbursement for what copies cost me and a SASE. Liz Hicks ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:21:18 PM EST From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a special request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think it was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid ($35?); and must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to supply a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has anyone tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. Vanessa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This web page might help: http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/agesearch.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Vanessa C. Schatz To: Vanessa C. Schatz Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:23 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a special request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think it was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid ($35?); and must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to supply a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has anyone tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. Vanessa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought you could only do a request for yourself on the census not for other people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> To: "Vanessa C. Schatz" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:23 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] Unreleased Census Request >I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a special > request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think it > was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid ($35?); > and > must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to > supply > a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has > anyone > tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. > > Vanessa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

These helpful hints about protecting our valuables have been great - thanks, all, and keep 'em coming! Who knows, some thief might want the picture of gt. grandma, not necessarily for the picture but the large gilded frame for sale to antique dealers. And, as in Jacque's case, they wind up not only with a good computer but a family history that they don't want and which is "tossed" or deleted as a result. When we had our alarm system installed some 25 years ago the rep told us that we had already done something that is one of the best deterrents - screws to "lock" the top and bottom window sashes. Of course, this only works for wooden frames. And, we keep a screw key on a table by at least one window in the room (but not close enough to reach in case glass is broken) or in a place that is convenient if we need to unlock the window in case of fire. Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grady Greene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] More on Breakins and Thievery > One thing that I do, in addition to writing down all serial numbers, is to > take a business or personal card that has my name, address, and phone > number on it, and place it INSIDE the cabinet or case (if possible) of a > valued item in an inconspicuous place. Depending on the item, you can > either tape it in, fold it, or roll it. Then, if found and you have to > identify it, there is your card on the inside. >

I remember hearing/reading something about being able to place a special request for unreleased (1940, 1950, etc.) federal census data. I think it was required that a special form could be completed; a fee paid ($35?); and must supply not only state, county, and city, but that you needed to supply a street address as well. Can anyone tell me what the steps are? Has anyone tried this? If so, what was your experience. Please advise. Thank you. Vanessa