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HEllo, In just a quick glance, I don't find any Hinton's in the "Devil's Den" book either. That is not to say they aren't in some part of the 44th Alabama, but I don't see the name mentioned in just a quick look. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: MISS> BEVERLY; Could you please check in the BOOK, to see if In Fact The *HINTONS* ARE NOT MENTIONED?? So Many sources have Referred to this-[Elusive]-BOOK, as a WEALTH of Intel on Early PIONEERS TO THIS AREA, and on the *HINTONS* who were said to have been, early COMMUNITY LEADERS in this area??? When you have the time, we pray for just a few Minutes!! THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- They are not mentioned in the index of the "said book".. "Ayers, B. J." wrote: 28DEC06 TO; MISS.CONNIE- LIST- RE; "AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"---By "BOYD" Per your Response about the above BOOK, You say It Does NOT- Have any---*HINTON* nor *MONTGOMERY* FAMILIES, Is that Correct??? Many Sources have said that several---*HINTON*--- FAMILIES were Mentioned in said BOOK, with the "First PIONEER- FAMILIES", to this "S.E. TUSCALOOSA/ BEAR CREEK areas of ALABAMA"!! They helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- early- 1830's)! What FAMILIES are Mentioned in said BOOK???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON* --*MONTGOMERY* --*BROWN*-- *AYERS*!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

HEllo, I reread the first five chapters, and I am sorry but they are not mentioned. They are not in the index, either. All of the books by Mr. Boyd are truly a wealth of information about this area; but, the Hinton family is not mentioned in this book, or so says the index. I have the book right next to me. That is not to say they were not in the area, but he did not mention them in this book. In the Haysop book, a Bertha Hinton is mentioned on p. 97--she is mentioned as being the wife of Loman Earnest Boyd, who is the son of Van Buren Boyd and Mignon Yeage--that is my interpretation of the paragraph. In the Liberty Church book, there is a John Hinton mentioned as being a member of the Sardis Church from 1819-1829. Maybe that will help you some. But as far as a whole chapter on the Hintons' I'm sorry but no. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: MISS> BEVERLY; Could you please check in the BOOK, to see if In Fact The *HINTONS* ARE NOT MENTIONED?? So Many sources have Referred to this-[Elusive]-BOOK, as a WEALTH of Intel on Early PIONEERS TO THIS AREA, and on the *HINTONS* who were said to have been, early COMMUNITY LEADERS in this area??? When you have the time, we pray for just a few Minutes!! THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- They are not mentioned in the index of the "said book".. "Ayers, B. J." wrote: 28DEC06 TO; MISS.CONNIE- LIST- RE; "AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"---By "BOYD" Per your Response about the above BOOK, You say It Does NOT- Have any---*HINTON* nor *MONTGOMERY* FAMILIES, Is that Correct??? Many Sources have said that several---*HINTON*--- FAMILIES were Mentioned in said BOOK, with the "First PIONEER- FAMILIES", to this "S.E. TUSCALOOSA/ BEAR CREEK areas of ALABAMA"!! They helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- early- 1830's)! What FAMILIES are Mentioned in said BOOK???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON* --*MONTGOMERY* --*BROWN*-- *AYERS*!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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MISS> BEVERLY; Could you please check in the BOOK, to see if In Fact The *HINTONS* ARE NOT MENTIONED?? So Many sources have Referred to this-[Elusive]-BOOK, as a WEALTH of Intel on Early PIONEERS TO THIS AREA, and on the *HINTONS* who were said to have been, early COMMUNITY LEADERS in this area??? When you have the time, we pray for just a few Minutes!! THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- They are not mentioned in the index of the "said book".. "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: 28DEC06 TO; MISS.CONNIE- LIST- RE; "AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"---By "BOYD" Per your Response about the above BOOK, You say It Does NOT- Have any---*HINTON* nor *MONTGOMERY* FAMILIES, Is that Correct??? Many Sources have said that several---*HINTON*--- FAMILIES were Mentioned in said BOOK, with the "First PIONEER- FAMILIES", to this "S.E. TUSCALOOSA/ BEAR CREEK areas of ALABAMA"!! They helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- early- 1830's)! What FAMILIES are Mentioned in said BOOK???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON* --*MONTGOMERY* --*BROWN*-- *AYERS*!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And...the Index to the American State Papers is called "Grassroots". This is a bound index found at most large libraries. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:11:25 PM EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Old St Stephens Book The "Old St Stephens" land book also has listings of "American State Papers, Public Lands" in it. The "Old St Stephens" land book is on AL, although the upper two thirds of AL and also MS were at one time Georgia in the very late 1700s and early 1800s until which time they became the MS Territory, and then for a short time for AL, the AL Territory, just before becoming a state. Those listings for "American State Papers, Public Lands" are: "Spanish Land Grants" (also has: "Register of Patents on Military Bounty Warrants 1855-1861, 1887-1888" and "Abstracts of Land Warrants 1853-1877") "Applications for Extension of Credit" "Non-Resident British Grants"" "Abstracts of Spanish Grants disallowed, on suspicion of being antedated" "Claims Founded on Spanish Patents Legally and Fully Executed, But Not Confirmed By the Board of Commissioners" "Pre-Emption Certificates" Some of the above date back to the mid and late 1700s. J Parker ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The "Old St Stephens" land book also has listings of "American State Papers, Public Lands" in it. The "Old St Stephens" land book is on AL, although the upper two thirds of AL and also MS were at one time Georgia in the very late 1700s and early 1800s until which time they became the MS Territory, and then for a short time for AL, the AL Territory, just before becoming a state. Those listings for "American State Papers, Public Lands" are: "Spanish Land Grants" (also has: "Register of Patents on Military Bounty Warrants 1855-1861, 1887-1888" and "Abstracts of Land Warrants 1853-1877") "Applications for Extension of Credit" "Non-Resident British Grants"" "Abstracts of Spanish Grants disallowed, on suspicion of being antedated" "Claims Founded on Spanish Patents Legally and Fully Executed, But Not Confirmed By the Board of Commissioners" "Pre-Emption Certificates" Some of the above date back to the mid and late 1700s. J Parker

If anyone is looking for land records (patents) issued by a Land Office, such as Old St. Stephens Land Office, and for ANY PUBLIC LAND STATE (AL,Ark,FL,MO,etc.), use http://www.glorecords.blm.gov and do a patent search. All you have to put in is surname and state. Have fun! Liz Hicks ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:33:43 AM EST From: Connie Parnell- Beverly <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] [GEORGIA] Old St Stephens Book I don't know if this will help you or not, but the correct spelling is Talladega National Forrest. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: 28DEC06 TO: MISS. DELILAH- LIST- RE: ALABAMA COUNTIES- -*ST. STEPHENS LEDGER* Do You-[or anyone] have the "Very First- CERTIFICATES & LAND PATENTS" for S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL--- (circa- Prior to -1830)??? Looking for-[The Very First]-LAND PATENTS for-SURNAMES of *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*, and *CLEMENTS*!! Areas South of "COALING, AL," and the "BIG SANDY"/ BEAR CREEK AREAS!!! These areas were-[Orig] Listed as "T24- R6-9", some of this area became "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB COUNTY", and some in the "T22" areas??? The- *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* was built on land Donated by the--*HARDY CLEMENTS FAMILY*--Near the *BEAR CREEK*/ BEAR CREEK ROAD!! *JOHN HINTON* & *JAMES MONTGOMERY*---had Land in this same area?? ANY INTEL, even "CRUMBS" & "TIDBITS" would be greatly appreciated. THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL! SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] Old St Stephens Book This is the Table of Contents: Alabama Land Office Maps Formation of Alabama Counties Alabama County Maps Chapter 1 - Spanish Land Grants Chapter 2 - U.S. Land Records St. Stephens Ledger "A", Dec 1806-Mch 1812 Chapter 3 - St. Stephens Ledger ":B" 20 Aug 1814 - 5 July 1817 Chapter 4 - Register of Certificates St. Stephens 1820-1845 Chapter 5 - Abstracts of Land Warrants 1853-1877, Register of Patents on Military Bounty Warrants 1855-1861, 1887-1888 Chapter 6 - Anstracts of Land sold at St. Stephens March 1859 - January 1861 Chapter 7 - Applications fo extension of credit Chapter 8 - American State Papers, Vol 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Old St Stephens Book Delilah; what would one find here other than land records? Would there be detailed information. Sorry to be not knowledgeable on this. Thanks Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if this will help you or not, but the correct spelling is Talladega National Forrest. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: 28DEC06 TO: MISS. DELILAH- LIST- RE: ALABAMA COUNTIES- -*ST. STEPHENS LEDGER* Do You-[or anyone] have the "Very First- CERTIFICATES & LAND PATENTS" for S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL--- (circa- Prior to -1830)??? Looking for-[The Very First]-LAND PATENTS for-SURNAMES of *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*, and *CLEMENTS*!! Areas South of "COALING, AL," and the "BIG SANDY"/ BEAR CREEK AREAS!!! These areas were-[Orig] Listed as "T24- R6-9", some of this area became "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB COUNTY", and some in the "T22" areas??? The- *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* was built on land Donated by the--*HARDY CLEMENTS FAMILY*--Near the *BEAR CREEK*/ BEAR CREEK ROAD!! *JOHN HINTON* & *JAMES MONTGOMERY*---had Land in this same area?? ANY INTEL, even "CRUMBS" & "TIDBITS" would be greatly appreciated. THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL! SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] Old St Stephens Book This is the Table of Contents: Alabama Land Office Maps Formation of Alabama Counties Alabama County Maps Chapter 1 - Spanish Land Grants Chapter 2 - U.S. Land Records St. Stephens Ledger "A", Dec 1806-Mch 1812 Chapter 3 - St. Stephens Ledger ":B" 20 Aug 1814 - 5 July 1817 Chapter 4 - Register of Certificates St. Stephens 1820-1845 Chapter 5 - Abstracts of Land Warrants 1853-1877, Register of Patents on Military Bounty Warrants 1855-1861, 1887-1888 Chapter 6 - Anstracts of Land sold at St. Stephens March 1859 - January 1861 Chapter 7 - Applications fo extension of credit Chapter 8 - American State Papers, Vol 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Old St Stephens Book Delilah; what would one find here other than land records? Would there be detailed information. Sorry to be not knowledgeable on this. Thanks Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

They are not mentioned in the index of the "said book".. "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: 28DEC06 TO; MISS.CONNIE- LIST- RE; "AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"---By "BOYD" Per your Response about the above BOOK, You say It Does NOT- Have any---*HINTON* nor *MONTGOMERY* FAMILIES, Is that Correct??? Many Sources have said that several---*HINTON*--- FAMILIES were Mentioned in said BOOK, with the "First PIONEER- FAMILIES", to this "S.E. TUSCALOOSA/ BEAR CREEK areas of ALABAMA"!! They helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- early- 1830's)! What FAMILIES are Mentioned in said BOOK???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON* --*MONTGOMERY* --*BROWN*-- *AYERS*!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thanks Liz! I see they do have a copy. Joni -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liz hicks Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses Joni, If I'm not mistaken, you can rent the AL state census microfilm from the LDS (Mormans). Use www.familysearch.org, click on search, then click on Library Catalog, then do a place search. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:27:15 AM EST From: "Joni" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses I live in SC and am very interested in the 1820 Alabama Census. It is difficult to get to Montgomery and I doubt if the library here would consider ordering a copy of the Alabama Census. Is there anyone in the Montgomery area that will do look ups of this census? Anyone know of anyone? Thanks, Joni -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Breedlove, Mike Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses Besides the 1866 Alabama state census, Alabama also has state censuses (as well as federal) for 1820 and 1850. There is also a state census for 1855 with no corresponding federal census. All of the state censuses are available on microfilm at the Alabama Dept. of Archives and History (ADAH) in the Research Room on the First Floor. This microfilm can also be purchased, so you may want to suggest that your local library get these reels of microfilm from the ADAH. State Censuses available on microfilm at the ADAH Secretary of State State census 1820 Secretary of State State census 1850 Secretary of State State census 1855 Secretary of State State census 1866 For detailed descriptions of those censuses go to the following url for ADAHCAT, the ADAH's online catalog. (You may need to copy and paste the url into the address bar). http://216.226.178.197:81/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First Then do a Basic Search (the default) using the term secretary of state state census. All of those censuses will appear, along with the corresponding U.S. censuses and other records. For more details, call the ADAH Research Room Reference Desk at 334-353-4648, and ask for Arlanda Perkins. Take care and happy researching during the new year, Mike Mike Breedlove Alternate way to ADAHCAT - Go to the ADAH home page at http://www.archives.state.al.us/index.html, and then click on Search Our Collections - http://www.archives.state.al.us/searchcoll.html , then click on ADAHCAT, the online catalog. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melissa Hogan Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:02 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [autauga] Link to information on how to locate the parents of an ancestor using death and other records Susette Cook has given us all a Christmas gift this year. Check out this page of her website . . . with links to other pages with additional detail and FHC catalog id's. http://alabamadeath.tripod.com/id61.htm <http://alabamadeath.tripod.com/id61.htm> Merry Christmas! Enjoy! 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28DEC06 TO: MISS. DELILAH- LIST- RE: ALABAMA COUNTIES- -*ST. STEPHENS LEDGER* Do You-[or anyone] have the "Very First- CERTIFICATES & LAND PATENTS" for S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL--- (circa- Prior to -1830)??? Looking for-[The Very First]-LAND PATENTS for-SURNAMES of *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*, and *CLEMENTS*!! Areas South of "COALING, AL," and the "BIG SANDY"/ BEAR CREEK AREAS!!! These areas were-[Orig] Listed as "T24- R6-9", some of this area became "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB COUNTY", and some in the "T22" areas??? The- *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* was built on land Donated by the--*HARDY CLEMENTS FAMILY*--Near the *BEAR CREEK*/ BEAR CREEK ROAD!! *JOHN HINTON* & *JAMES MONTGOMERY*---had Land in this same area?? ANY INTEL, even "CRUMBS" & "TIDBITS" would be greatly appreciated. THANKS & GOD BLESS A HAPPY & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL! SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GEORGIA! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Delilah Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:34 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] Old St Stephens Book This is the Table of Contents: Alabama Land Office Maps Formation of Alabama Counties Alabama County Maps Chapter 1 - Spanish Land Grants Chapter 2 - U.S. Land Records St. Stephens Ledger "A", Dec 1806-Mch 1812 Chapter 3 - St. Stephens Ledger ":B" 20 Aug 1814 - 5 July 1817 Chapter 4 - Register of Certificates St. Stephens 1820-1845 Chapter 5 - Abstracts of Land Warrants 1853-1877, Register of Patents on Military Bounty Warrants 1855-1861, 1887-1888 Chapter 6 - Anstracts of Land sold at St. Stephens March 1859 - January 1861 Chapter 7 - Applications fo extension of credit Chapter 8 - American State Papers, Vol 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Old St Stephens Book Delilah; what would one find here other than land records? Would there be detailed information. Sorry to be not knowledgeable on this. Thanks Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

28DEC06 TO; MISS.CONNIE- LIST- RE; "AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"---By "BOYD" Per your Response about the above BOOK, You say It Does NOT- Have any---*HINTON* nor *MONTGOMERY* FAMILIES, Is that Correct??? Many Sources have said that several---*HINTON*--- FAMILIES were Mentioned in said BOOK, with the "First PIONEER- FAMILIES", to this "S.E. TUSCALOOSA/ BEAR CREEK areas of ALABAMA"!! They helped to CHARTER & ORGANIZE the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS*- (circa- early- 1830's)! What FAMILIES are Mentioned in said BOOK???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON* --*MONTGOMERY* --*BROWN*-- *AYERS*!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Parnell- Beverly Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] The BOOK---"AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK"--- Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: rottenberry/rittenberrys Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3715/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there a samuel in your bible ? am descended from Henry or samuel ...have tax list 1795 mecklenburg va with samuel and john( shows John's son as Henry and Samuel mon? Nathaniel)...trying to follow Samuel to find where he went ..My rottenberrys/Rittenberrys moved to tn.and then to Il. in 1860s [email protected]

Hello, I have a copy of the book "At Liberty on Bear Creek" by Charles Boyd. It does not have a Hinton or Montgomery mentioned in the book. Connie Parnell-Beverly "Ayers, B. J." <[email protected]> wrote: Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Joni, If I'm not mistaken, you can rent the AL state census microfilm from the LDS (Mormans). Use www.familysearch.org, click on search, then click on Library Catalog, then do a place search. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:27:15 AM EST From: "Joni" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses I live in SC and am very interested in the 1820 Alabama Census. It is difficult to get to Montgomery and I doubt if the library here would consider ordering a copy of the Alabama Census. Is there anyone in the Montgomery area that will do look ups of this census? Anyone know of anyone? Thanks, Joni -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Breedlove, Mike Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses Besides the 1866 Alabama state census, Alabama also has state censuses (as well as federal) for 1820 and 1850. There is also a state census for 1855 with no corresponding federal census. All of the state censuses are available on microfilm at the Alabama Dept. of Archives and History (ADAH) in the Research Room on the First Floor. This microfilm can also be purchased, so you may want to suggest that your local library get these reels of microfilm from the ADAH. State Censuses available on microfilm at the ADAH Secretary of State State census 1820 Secretary of State State census 1850 Secretary of State State census 1855 Secretary of State State census 1866 For detailed descriptions of those censuses go to the following url for ADAHCAT, the ADAH's online catalog. (You may need to copy and paste the url into the address bar). http://216.226.178.197:81/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First Then do a Basic Search (the default) using the term secretary of state state census. All of those censuses will appear, along with the corresponding U.S. censuses and other records. For more details, call the ADAH Research Room Reference Desk at 334-353-4648, and ask for Arlanda Perkins. Take care and happy researching during the new year, Mike Mike Breedlove Alternate way to ADAHCAT - Go to the ADAH home page at http://www.archives.state.al.us/index.html, and then click on Search Our Collections - http://www.archives.state.al.us/searchcoll.html , then click on ADAHCAT, the online catalog. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melissa Hogan Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:02 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [autauga] Link to information on how to locate the parents of an ancestor using death and other records Susette Cook has given us all a Christmas gift this year. Check out this page of her website . . . with links to other pages with additional detail and FHC catalog id's. http://alabamadeath.tripod.com/id61.htm <http://alabamadeath.tripod.com/id61.htm> Merry Christmas! Enjoy! 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I live in SC and am very interested in the 1820 Alabama Census. It is difficult to get to Montgomery and I doubt if the library here would consider ordering a copy of the Alabama Census. Is there anyone in the Montgomery area that will do look ups of this census? Anyone know of anyone? Thanks, Joni -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Breedlove, Mike Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] Alabama State Censuses Besides the 1866 Alabama state census, Alabama also has state censuses (as well as federal) for 1820 and 1850. There is also a state census for 1855 with no corresponding federal census. All of the state censuses are available on microfilm at the Alabama Dept. of Archives and History (ADAH) in the Research Room on the First Floor. This microfilm can also be purchased, so you may want to suggest that your local library get these reels of microfilm from the ADAH. State Censuses available on microfilm at the ADAH Secretary of State State census 1820 Secretary of State State census 1850 Secretary of State State census 1855 Secretary of State State census 1866 For detailed descriptions of those censuses go to the following url for ADAHCAT, the ADAH's online catalog. (You may need to copy and paste the url into the address bar). http://216.226.178.197:81/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First Then do a Basic Search (the default) using the term secretary of state state census. All of those censuses will appear, along with the corresponding U.S. censuses and other records. For more details, call the ADAH Research Room Reference Desk at 334-353-4648, and ask for Arlanda Perkins. 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Looking for the BOOK--- "*AT LIBERTY ON BEAR CREEK*"---- [Any BOOK on PIONEERS TO ALABAMA-With "HINTON & MONTGOMERY"]!!! Written about the First Settlers-(circa- early-1820's) - to the "TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA" areas! *HINTON and MONTGOMERY FAMILIES* and Others----First Settled in the "S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTY" areas around the *BEAR CREEK* and areas which became the "TALEDEGA NAT. FOREST" and "BIBB BOUNTY"!!! Helped Establish the *OLD SARDIS* - (circa- 1819) & *GILGAL BAPTIST CHURCHS* - (circa- 1830)!! We are looking to "INTER- LIBRARY XFER" if Possible! Looking for the Family of our gggrandfather- *JOHN HINTON*- (b. JOCO, NC-circa- 1790-1843). Married in "TUSCALOOSA COUNTY, AL."- (1823) --- *EASTER/ ester (MONTGOMERY) - HINTON* - (b. GA- circa- 1797- 1870)!!! THANKS AND GOD BLESS A GOOD & BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ONE & ALL. SEMPER FI BA- IN NORTH GA! SURNAMES; *HINTON*-- *MONTGOMERY* -- *BROWN* -- *AYERS*

27DEC06 HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL; TO: CHAR- LIST- RE: POST BY-*CHAR*- dtd.26DEC06--GEO. TRUCKS/ AYERS- MISS. CHAR- MISS. JODY- LIST/ ANYONE- What else do you have on these "Friends/Neighbors"---*AYERS*---??? "PA"--"OH"--"GA"--and "ALABAMA"!!!!! Our ---*AYERS*---"SC>>"GA">>"ALABAMA"! "ALABAMA" by- (circa- 1830-1840's). ---Unknown Prior to "GREENVILLE, SC"???? THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA in NORTH GA! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] George Joseph Trucks This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.countie s.bibb/2269.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Jody for such a quick response. I have several sources for the William Trucks will but do not have all the data. Apparently William Trucks Sr. from Penn was in Knox, Co. Ohio by 1811. He died 19Nov.1831 and William Trucks Jr. was executor. As you mentioned, William Jr. was sued by Sylvina and Esther. By 01July1833 the record shows that "the said William Trucks the younger hath since the filing of said petition and since the service of a subpoena on him in that behalf died". I will be happy to send you copies of all that I have. I recieved my info from a Helen Smith who had the will extracted for her from the Ohio Geneological Library in Mansfield, Ohio. I have the index list of the Richland Co. Wills listing : Trucks, Wm. Admin. Record Bk 1, p. 523, p.622 Estate book 1832 Trux,Wm Admin. Record Bk 3, p.412 (inventory) (1833) Admin. Record Bk.6,p.285 (final 1842); Admin. Record Bk. 12, p.229 (1833) Truckes, Wm.Admin. " " 9, p.671,674 Estate Bk. 1852 (guardianship for children: Porter and Emily Trucks) will of William Trucks Jr. Trucks,Wm. Admin. Record Bk. 12, p.36 (final) Guardianship for minors John and Charles Hope this helps. I would try the Mansfield Library. Will mail to you what I have. Email me at [email protected] The most interesting thing that I have from Helen is Part of a letter sent to her by her fellow researcher who had been going thru the newsletter for the Richland County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society for Oct-Dec 1987 which was citing the importance of checking the Common Pleas, Chancery, Law Record and Probate Journals in Ohio to gather genealogical information and had actually cited as an example the Trucks suit depositions, one dated 19oct 1831' the other dated 24 Aug 1838. I do wish we could locate these two depositions. The second date: John McHenry said that James N. Ayres (executor of Wm Trucks Jr. will) and Daniel Ayres are brothers. He also said that the 5 nearest neighbors of Wm. Sr. were: Daniel Ayres, James N. Ayres, Abner Ayres, George Ayres, Elizabeth Hell and Adam Keith. Wm. Shurr knew Wm. Trucks Sr. since 1813 and said Wm. Sr's first wife was the d/o Daniel Ayres. James N. Ayres stated tht George Trucks left home and has been, as reported by the Truck's family, dead for 20 years. His father, Wm. Sr. felt he died on the Mississippi River for he had a letter that gave a fair description of him. James said he had known the Trucks in Penn. I can send you a copy of these notes too, if you like. I have copies of George Joseph Trucks pension request letters having been in two Indian Wars in Alabama and Georgia. Will have to cite those sources later, must give my wrist a rest, had stitches out today after surgery last week for a fx wrist, slipped on the ice, oh well, it got me into the ancestry.com site, so happy I found you. Char ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/2269.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Jody for such a quick response. I have several sources for the William Trucks will but do not have all the data. Apparently William Trucks Sr. from Penn was in Knox, Co. Ohio by 1811. He died 19Nov.1831 and William Trucks Jr. was executor. As you mentioned, William Jr. was sued by Sylvina and Esther. By 01July1833 the record shows that "the said William Trucks the younger hath since the filing of said petition and since the service of a subpoena on him in that behalf died". I will be happy to send you copies of all that I have. I recieved my info from a Helen Smith who had the will extracted for her from the Ohio Geneological Library in Mansfield, Ohio. I have the index list of the Richland Co. Wills listing : Trucks, Wm. Admin. Record Bk 1, p. 523, p.622 Estate book 1832 Trux,Wm Admin. Record Bk 3, p.412 (inventory) (1833) Admin. Record Bk.6,p.285 (final 1842); Admin. Record Bk. 12, p.229 (1833) Truckes, Wm.Admin. " " 9, p.671,674 Estate Bk. 1852 (guardianship for children: Porter and Emily Trucks) will of William Trucks Jr. Trucks,Wm. Admin. Record Bk. 12, p.36 (final) Guardianship for minors John and Charles Hope this helps. I would try the Mansfield Library. Will mail to you what I have. Email me at [email protected] The most interesting thing that I have from Helen is Part of a letter sent to her by her fellow researcher who had been going thru the newsletter for the Richland County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society for Oct-Dec 1987 which was citing the importance of checking the Common Pleas, Chancery, Law Record and Probate Journals in Ohio to gather genealogical information and had actually cited as an example the Trucks suit depositions, one dated 19oct 1831' the other dated 24 Aug 1838. I do wish we could locate these two depositions. The second date: John McHenry said that James N. Ayres (executor of Wm Trucks Jr. will) and Daniel Ayres are brothers. He also said that the 5 nearest neighbors of Wm. Sr. were: Daniel Ayres, James N. Ayres, Abner Ayres, George Ayres, Elizabeth Hell and Adam Keith. Wm. Shurr knew Wm. Trucks Sr. since 1813 and said Wm. Sr's first wife was the d/o Daniel Ayres. James N. Ayres stated tht George Trucks left home and has been, as reported by the Truck's family, dead for 20 years. His father, Wm. Sr. felt he died on the Mississippi River for he had a letter that gave a fair description of him. James said he had known the Trucks in Penn. I can send you a copy of these notes too, if you like. I have copies of George Joseph Trucks pension request letters having been in two Indian Wars in Alabama and Georgia. Will have to cite those sources later, must give my wrist a rest, had stitches out today after surgery last week for a fx wrist, slipped on the ice, oh well, it got me into the ancestry.com site, so happy I found you. Char