Hello, Could this have been called Hinton's Grove ? Later Marrow's Grove ? Was it N west ore west of Fosters just over into Green Co. ?? Thank you Jim Foster ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] ***HINTON- DAIRY FARM* > Good morning, BA,I happen to be a list member because I have ancestors > from Bibb County, so I will take out and tell you a little information. > The property you speak of is in Tuscaloosa County. Thirty miles from > Bibb County line...it is on the road to Greensbora, (in Greene County), > but it is now in city limits of Tuscaloosa, right at Englewood > School...at a place, known as TAYLORVILLE, Al. the Hinton Dairy farm > was on highway 69 South...Old Greensbora Road. It was there until just a > few years ago, but had stopped producing many years ago, as did all > Tuscaloosa dairies. The land, now has been sold off for houses, > developed as Hinton Place, on the new highway 69 So... The Hinton family > log cabin, under a big Oak tree and the well is still there, right in > the middle of these expensive homes, called Hinton Place.The original > log home burned shortly after it was built, ...and another built right > next to the spot. I wrote you last year about the newer, wood structure, > Hinton home, on the hill on highway 69 South, built around 1865.'80. It > was blown down, in the December tornado that went through Tuscaloosa > down there a few years ago, and killed several people. One house still > stands, on that hill to the left of the old homeplace, that was built > out of logs for a first married son,or a farm laboror... I think, and > later lived in by the family cook, or nanny. Too, a house on the > adjacent side road that was to the railroad crossing on the river, > (Maxwell Crossing) and to the Hinton farm land,barn, etc..stands today, > has the original house built during WW2 for a daughter that married and > he was away in the navy She married a Hamner.The house has been redone > and is nice.A large house, and barn, built behind it for some of the > family...has been torn down in recent years and is now Mobile Homes. I > wish I had known you when I was there and the road to the Dairy was a > private one...and we rode horses there. Now there is a four lane highway > right through it (new 69)...and it is SO DIFFERENT! I could have made > you pictures of the mile long road to the Dairy that had a fence all the > way to it, that was covered with antigue roses! Beautiful sight,I > always wondered if they brought them there from their homeland, and > planted them.All of this has been scraped off to sell land! This place > is in walking distance to Little Sandy Baptist Church, on the creek.(The > original log church burned too and it was rebuilt out of wood) A new > church next to it is open today. Big Sandy Baptist Church, is about > two/three miles south on same highway.Gilgad Church is on Bear Creek > Road,anout 5/6 miles to the East also in Tuscaloosa oounty. I came to > Tuscaloosa in 1974, and we bought 11.8 acres of the Hinton land, that > had been previously sold to Rev. Earnest White.I can make you a picture > of the hill, where the house stood...(but all the very old cedars were > blown down too).....and the one standing house on it if you like? Send > me a private email with your snail mail.I wish some of the family would > send you more history, with actual data. Lots of the Hinton family still > lives here, and north of the city of Northport, at old Sipsey, is where > the Hamners settled.there were some Hintons there too,I think it was > called Hinton Corners or something like that. ...it was a corner of > Greene County at one time. I have seen old historical markers there at > an old church, to do with the early Hamners that founded it. I am sorry > this is so long to the list, (but your message was gatewayed > here).....when it is not in BIBB County, but I no longer have your > address...just guessing at it. > . > Stella > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

live very near this place an go by nearly every day on way to school at shelton nice to hear bout the history , my mawmaw lives on the old englewood drive also .. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Good morning, BA,I happen to be a list member because I have ancestors from Bibb County, so I will take out and tell you a little information. The property you speak of is in Tuscaloosa County. Thirty miles from Bibb County line...it is on the road to Greensbora, (in Greene County), but it is now in city limits of Tuscaloosa, right at Englewood School...at a place, known as TAYLORVILLE, Al. the Hinton Dairy farm was on highway 69 South...Old Greensbora Road. It was there until just a few years ago, but had stopped producing many years ago, as did all Tuscaloosa dairies. The land, now has been sold off for houses, developed as Hinton Place, on the new highway 69 So... The Hinton family log cabin, under a big Oak tree and the well is still there, right in the middle of these expensive homes, called Hinton Place.The original log home burned shortly after it was built, ...and another built right next to the spot. I wrote you last year about the newer, wood structure, Hinton home, on the hill on highway 69 South, built around 1865.'80. It was blown down, in the December tornado that went through Tuscaloosa down there a few years ago, and killed several people. One house still stands, on that hill to the left of the old homeplace, that was built out of logs for a first married son,or a farm laboror... I think, and later lived in by the family cook, or nanny. Too, a house on the adjacent side road that was to the railroad crossing on the river, (Maxwell Crossing) and to the Hinton farm land,barn, etc..stands today, has the original house built during WW2 for a daughter that married and he was away in the navy She married a Hamner.The house has been redone and is nice.A large house, and barn, built behind it for some of the family...has been torn down in recent years and is now Mobile Homes. I wish I had known you when I was there and the road to the Dairy was a private one...and we rode horses there. Now there is a four lane highway right through it (new 69)...and it is SO DIFFERENT! I could have made you pictures of the mile long road to the Dairy that had a fence all the way to it, that was covered with antigue roses! Beautiful sight,I always wondered if they brought them there from their homeland, and planted them.All of this has been scraped off to sell land! This place is in walking distance to Little Sandy Baptist Church, on the creek.(The original log church burned too and it was rebuilt out of wood) A new church next to it is open today. Big Sandy Baptist Church, is about two/three miles south on same highway.Gilgad Church is on Bear Creek Road,anout 5/6 miles to the East also in Tuscaloosa oounty. I came to Tuscaloosa in 1974, and we bought 11.8 acres of the Hinton land, that had been previously sold to Rev. Earnest White.I can make you a picture of the hill, where the house stood...(but all the very old cedars were blown down too).....and the one standing house on it if you like? Send me a private email with your snail mail.I wish some of the family would send you more history, with actual data. Lots of the Hinton family still lives here, and north of the city of Northport, at old Sipsey, is where the Hamners settled.there were some Hintons there too,I think it was called Hinton Corners or something like that. ...it was a corner of Greene County at one time. I have seen old historical markers there at an old church, to do with the early Hamners that founded it. I am sorry this is so long to the list, (but your message was gatewayed here).....when it is not in BIBB County, but I no longer have your address...just guessing at it. . Stella

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: x2bjones Surnames: HINTON---MONTGOMERY--BROWN--CLEMENTS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3724/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for ANY INTEL on the ***HINTON- DAIRY FARM***, which was on/ near the---"BEAR CREEK/ BEAR CREEK ROAD & BIG SANDY CREEK AREAS"--- of N.W. BIBB & S.E. TUSCALOOSA COUNTIES, ALABAMA- (circa- 1820's- 1840)!!! The *REV.JOHN HINTON FAMILY*, and Other extended families were early Members of the ***OLD SARDIS & GILGAL CHURCH'S***--(1820's on)!! The *OLD SARDIS CHURCH* was on /near the "BEAR CREEK" or "BIG SANDY CREEK"!! The *GILGAL CHURCH* was -"A MISSIONS CHURCH OUT OF THE OLD SARDIS" on/ near the "LITTLE SANDY CREEK"!!!!! Neighbors were the families of-*HARDY CLEMENTS*, *CHARLES MONTGOMERY*, and *JOHN ERWIN BROWN*!!! ANY INTEL on *ANY HINTON*,*MONTGOMERY*, or Associated Families!!! THANKS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Liz This HOLDER family did pass through Tennessee. The father of James listed in the original post was Elijah HOLDER b. ca 1815 in North Carolina. He married first Susan Taylor. Their first daughter, my ancestress Frances was born in North Carolina. The next (3) children born between 1840 and 1844 were born in Tennessee and the next child born in 1847 was born in Alabama as well as subsequent children. Susan died between 1850 and 1853 and Elijah married Christianna Simms, the mother of the James from the original post. There were (2) additional children as well from this marriage. Elijah died in 1872 at Bryce Hospital. Melissa ----- Original Message ---- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:40:41 -0400 From: "liz hicks" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Holder family Holder- Do you have a Texas Death Certificate for James? According to the census WHERE did James say he was born? I research a Holder line of Franklin Co., TN. Some of the desc. of Solomon and Elizabeth Holder went to Jackson Co.,AL and some to Cherokee Co., TX. Liz in Houston __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Holder- Do you have a Texas Death Certificate for James? According to the census WHERE did James say he was born? I research a Holder line of Franklin Co., TN. Some of the desc. of Solomon and Elizabeth Holder went to Jackson Co.,AL and some to Cherokee Co., TX. Liz in Houston ------ Original Message ------ Received: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:11:18 PM EDT From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Holder family This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gruffgriffin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/1661.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frankie, I'm Gary Griffin. I have a James M. Holder as my Great Grandfather. His first wife was Minerva Smith. She is the daughter of the parents you mentioned. She did live in haysop community in Alabama. She did die in 1888 in Alabama. The children I have are Sissy Holder, Wiley Lafayette Holder and W. Thomas Holder. I have a lot of descendants from these, but nothing on the parents of James M. Holder. I do know James lived in Maud, Bowie, Texas with his second wife Rachael. His son Wiley also lived in Maud. James or Jim, Rachael, Wiley Lafayette, and others (to include his third wife Bennie) are buried in centeridge cemetery in Maud. James died in 1916. I do not have a definite date of his birth. it jumps around a lot, but most seems to be 1853. I haven't even a clue of his parents or his any brothers/sisters until I came onto this message board of yours tonight. Hope this information works for you. Please reply with any of his relatives info, brothwers, sisters, mother,! father or anything you have. I'll send more if this is the right names for you. Thanks again, GARY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gruffgriffin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/1661.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frankie, I'm Gary Griffin. I have a James M. Holder as my Great Grandfather. His first wife was Minerva Smith. She is the daughter of the parents you mentioned. She did live in haysop community in Alabama. She did die in 1888 in Alabama. The children I have are Sissy Holder, Wiley Lafayette Holder and W. Thomas Holder. I have a lot of descendants from these, but nothing on the parents of James M. Holder. I do know James lived in Maud, Bowie, Texas with his second wife Rachael. His son Wiley also lived in Maud. James or Jim, Rachael, Wiley Lafayette, and others (to include his third wife Bennie) are buried in centeridge cemetery in Maud. James died in 1916. I do not have a definite date of his birth. it jumps around a lot, but most seems to be 1853. I haven't even a clue of his parents or his any brothers/sisters until I came onto this message board of yours tonight. Hope this information works for you. Please reply with any of his relatives info, brothwers, sisters, mother,! father or anything you have. I'll send more if this is the right names for you. Thanks again, GARY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The link to the archives didn't work for me. Pat Cassity ----- Original Message ----- From: caroline To: BIBB Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] Bibb obit You can also contact the Alabama Dept of Archives and History in Montgomery if the local paper can't do a search. http://www.archives.state.al.us/newsmicro/results.cfm Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] WALLACE obit question > Hello Bibb County Members, > > Do you know the name of the library > where I can write to purchase an > obituary? Or may I purchase from > a volunteer? > > I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who > died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. > > Thanks, > Deborah in KY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the address for the ADAH home page: http://www.archives.state.al.us/ Go to "For Genealogists and Historians" and then to "Databases of Newspapers ..." If the local papers that others have listed cannot do lookups and send copies this database will give you all the newspapers and dates that are available from the Archives. You can email your request and obtain a copy for a small fee. Caroline, List Administrator

There are two Clanton papers: The Chilton Co News. http://www.beachbecky.com/index.html/index.html/Main%20News.html The Advertiser. http://www.clantonadvertiser.com/ Ric -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Bibb obit The link to the archives didn't work for me. Pat Cassity ----- Original Message ----- From: caroline To: BIBB Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] Bibb obit You can also contact the Alabama Dept of Archives and History in Montgomery if the local paper can't do a search. http://www.archives.state.al.us/newsmicro/results.cfm Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] WALLACE obit question > Hello Bibb County Members, > > Do you know the name of the library > where I can write to purchase an > obituary? Or may I purchase from > a volunteer? > > I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who > died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. > > Thanks, > Deborah in KY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can also contact the Alabama Dept of Archives and History in Montgomery if the local paper can't do a search. http://www.archives.state.al.us/newsmicro/results.cfm Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: [ALBIBB] WALLACE obit question > Hello Bibb County Members, > > Do you know the name of the library > where I can write to purchase an > obituary? Or may I purchase from > a volunteer? > > I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who > died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. > > Thanks, > Deborah in KY

To find names of newspapers, obits, etc. use: http:www.epodunk.com/search/newspapers.html Have fun. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:44:06 PM EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] WALLACE obit question Hello Bibb County Members, Do you know the name of the library where I can write to purchase an obituary? Or may I purchase from a volunteer? I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. Thanks, Deborah in KY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The name of the newspaper in Centreville is the "Centreville Press", you might consider the newspaper in Clanton, AL as well as in Tuscaloosa. Liz ------ Original Message ------ Received: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:44:06 PM EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [ALBIBB] WALLACE obit question Hello Bibb County Members, Do you know the name of the library where I can write to purchase an obituary? Or may I purchase from a volunteer? I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. Thanks, Deborah in KY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bibb County Members, Do you know the name of the library where I can write to purchase an obituary? Or may I purchase from a volunteer? I have Bobby Gene WALLACE who died May 17, 2003 in Lawley. Thanks, Deborah in KY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

This book is not indexed.I found one marriage for Hayes, so far in the book, 'Mulberry Church'...in telling about the new town of Maplesville...it says . "Anderson Hayes now owned and operated the Mill and Gin,once owned by Daniel Williams, Anderson Hayes married Nancy Foshee, daughter of William Foshee." . I can see there is a lot about the Foshee,(several brothers in business at Maplesville) Green Rasberry, Cockran, and Goodwin families. Stella

More from Book on Mulberry Church: "Rev. Enoch Hayes left the Mulberry Community after the 1840 session and had become the pastor of the Baptist Church at Kingston, which was then the county seat of Autauga County.He had come into the early Mulberry settlement, either earlier than, or around 1820. The Tract book shows land was registered in his name during the year of 1820.His land and farm was in section 23 and 24, two or three miles east of Mulberry Church.At that time his family consisted of his wife Rebecca and several children. The county marriage records show that he performed many scores of marriage ceremonies.He sold his home and land in 1836 to Richard Graham for $2200 and left the community but returned before his final departure. They were the parents of many children. He died July 24 1853 and the following Memorial was written to honor his name. FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN BAPTIST August 19, 1853 'Died at his residence in Autauga County Sunday 24th ult.,Elder Enoch Hayes, an old and faithful minister of the Gospel, in the Baptist Church, leaving his aged wife, and many children to mourn the sad bereavement.His body lies in the grave, and his spirit has returned to the God who gave it" I don't have time right now to type the following two pages where earlier,on August 8,1853. in Autauga County the conference meeting from Harmony Church, the discussion was entirely about him, and a resolution was passed to preach his funeral at the next session of the Association ...all this was added to the minutes of the church. Hope this is somethingto go on...I don't think there is much about his sons...they must not have been in this Mulberry Church...but I will scant over the book for any mention... Stella

Hi, you need to search for Enoch HAYES in Bibb Co. He was an active member of the Mulberry Church at Maplesville, (now at Isabella, Chilton Co) was it's pastor in 1828 till about 1840, if my memory serves me. ...His daughter Epsey married in 1828 to Elsha Whatley.You can order the book,"A History of Mulberry Church1818-1968" by Ulysis H. Abrams... from the Clanton Historical Library. I bought it while there one time. Hope it is Ok to mention where to find a book on here. Someone put the URL to Chilton Co recently, but I don't have it. I can look up in my nook for you. Stella

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drmurphy8839 Surnames: Hayes, Rasberry, Heayes, Sumners, Anglin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3723/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I have recently been working on the Hayes side of my family which seems to trace back to Bibb Co. before hitting a brick wall. Perhaps someone here can help me. My family goes as follows: Alsey Lumpton Hayes b. 1895 Union, Arkansas md. Rose Doll Sumners Robert Enic Hayes b. 1875 Union, Arkansas md. Hassie Anglin James Pinkney Heayes (Hayes) b. 1847 Bibb, Alabama died Union, AR md. Francis (or Fanny) J. William G. Heayes (Hayes) b. 1818 Alabama md. Luritta Rasberry William G. Hayes also lived near a Jackson Hayes b. 1830. The above information is correct to the best of my knowledge. Please note that after reading the census documents I am stuck at William G. Hayes born 1818. Also, the spelling seems to change around at that time. Any help would be great and thanks for your time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sue L Wright Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/144.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Another reason I think Rufus William McLain's father may have been Jesse is that the name Jesse was used as a given name in the McLain family (Uncles, etc.) They tended to repeat given names a lot. Barbara, if you turn up anything, I would appreciate hearing from you. You may email me direct at [email protected] I have done a lot of work on all branches of my family, and this one is a puzzle because I can't seem to get back beyond Rufus William. Any help appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zitilover Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/144.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sue - Too be honest - I only THINK he is the son of Jesse McLain. Records for Jesse in Bibb County indicate his son Rufus W. was born in 1827 and not 1823, so nothing definate yet, but I have a good feeling about this. I am in contact with a Mr. Denver Ragland of Alabama who is a published genealogest (I don't have his book in from of me) - who is researching the McLain's from Bibb County. Jesse married his great grandfather's sister in Jefferson County, Alabama. He says that once the McLain's (McLane, McClain's)moved to Perry county they lost track of many in the family. His main reseach is in the HOBSON Name. If I can find out anything definate I will post. Barbara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.