Believe me, after 20 years of reading genealogy, there are a lot of illegitimate as well as secrets about fathers of children EVERYWHERE in every family! All those children who were really grandchildren and all those children whose fathers were not the husbands.....If DNA were 100%, it would be the only true way to tell. All the rest of genealogy is hypothetical and only accurate if the women told the truth about the fathers. It is strange to me that our lineage doesn't go by maternity instead of paternity. But, that's just cultural. Still, genealogy is great fun and the family we meet is still OUR FAMILY. I had a sweet uncle who used to tease us by reminding us that we all just came from Adam and Eve! ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoEllen Holmes" <jholmeslcsw@gmail.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > This is what I have... > This information came from a distant cousin - Karlan Holack who lives in > Boston, GA (yes Georgia) - which is in South Georgia - and a "suburb" of a > little town called Thomasville. > Karlan was a Langston prior to marriage. Her great grandfather, like mine > was Marshall Monroe. > Karlan has done extensive research. I have not seen her research, but > believe that she has put alot of sweat and tears, etc. > > Marshall Monroe married Effie Hill. > Effie's father was James Washingto Hill, a.k.k Richard Hill. Richard's > wife > was named, Mandy Moria Ann Frances Jones. Her parents wer Raiford Jones > and > Delilah Stackman. > His mother was Elizabeth Hill. > > This is where Karlan got stuck, as she told me. > Karlan said that Richard was illigitimate. And rumor has it that > Elizabeth > could have been a prostitute.... That is not confirmed, but a oral > story... > Therefore Richard's father is hard to trace as will as Elizabeth. > > If you find out, please let me know. I would love to know how we are > connected. > > JoEllen Holmes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Karlan, I know that it has been a while since we have talked - about the Langstons and Hill family tree... But I am on the Bibb County Roots list serv, and there has been alot of activity regarding the need for information about the Hills. I am CCing this to the list, because alot of folks have responded and had questions. I have responded by saying that Richard Hill's mother, Elizabeth Hill had him illigitimately, perhaps due to prostitution or other reasons. There is now discussion on this list serv that the Hills were Native American or had some connection as African American. So could it be possible that the illigitimacy could be connected to the shame of being related to AA or NA? I am attaching the other e-mails that have this discussion. It would be great if you could chime in on this, since you have done some research on this. I know that you have gotten stuck with info on Elizabeth Hill. I think that there are others who might have some more information.... -- Jo Ellen Holmes fromdianehammsciara@aol.com reply-toalbibb@rootsweb.com togc-gateway@rootsweb.com, albibb@rootsweb.com dateSat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:15 PM subjectRe: [ALBIBB] Hill Family mailing list<albibb.rootsweb.com> Filter messages from this mailing list mailed-byrootsweb.com hide details Aug 16 (2 days ago) Reply Still trying to research James W. Hill married to Fannie Hill.? They were both born in 1854.? There were 11 children altogether and some of the names are: Paralee (my great grandmother - married David Miller Henderson), Elijah 1885, Sam 1892, Cary 1895, Beny, Effie (married a Langston) and more.? Any help would be great.? Also, James W. Hill somehow became Richard Hill as he grew up. ----------------------------------------------------------------- fromjim foster <12144@frontiernet.net> reply-toalbibb@rootsweb.com toalbibb@rootsweb.com dateSun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:08 AM subjectRe: [ALBIBB] Hill Family mailing list<albibb.rootsweb.com> Filter messages from this mailing list mailed-byrootsweb.com hide details Aug 17 (2 days ago) Reply My 3rd g grand's James Foster 1st child of John and Elizabeth (Savidge) Foster b July 11,1786 in Columbia Co.Ga. and Mary Eleanor Hill. 1st child of Joshua and Nancy Wyatt (Collier) Hill. b Feb 6. 1791 in Abbeville Co., S.C. and m on May 19,1807 in Abbeville Co., S.C. and had 13 children !!!! In the fall of 1818 James and Mary with there children moved to Tuscaloosa Co. Al and to what is known to day as Fosters Al.and then James Fosters brother. Hardy Foster was m to Mary's sister who was Elizabeth Wyatt Hill and also move to Fosters Al. !!! Have lot's of info her if this is your Hill line. Jim Foster ------------------------------------------------------------- fromMarshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> reply-toalbibb@rootsweb.com toalbibb@rootsweb.com dateMon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:56 AM subjectRe: [ALBIBB] Hill Family mailing list<albibb.rootsweb.com> Filter messages from this mailing list mailed-byrootsweb.com hide details 11:56 AM (9 hours ago) Reply The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with Native American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and Harrisburg. This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? Ingrid ----------------------------------------------------------- fromdianehammsciara@aol.com reply-toalbibb@rootsweb.com toalbibb@rootsweb.com dateMon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:27 PM subjectRe: [ALBIBB] Hill Family mailing list<albibb.rootsweb.com> Filter messages from this mailing list mailed-byrootsweb.com hide details 12:27 PM (8 hours ago) Reply I am white.? The old picture I have of Richard Hill looks very native american.? My grandmother told me before she died in 1996 that he was native american.? I think I found him as J. W. Hill age 6 on the 1860 census.? No father is listed.? His father could have been black.? I am lost here.

Thomasville is not far (30-40 mi) from Macon in Bibb Co.GA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoEllen Holmes" <jholmeslcsw@gmail.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > This is what I have... > This information came from a distant cousin - Karlan Holack who lives in > Boston, GA (yes Georgia) - which is in South Georgia - and a "suburb" of a > little town called Thomasville. > Karlan was a Langston prior to marriage. Her great grandfather, like mine > was Marshall Monroe. > Karlan has done extensive research. I have not seen her research, but > believe that she has put alot of sweat and tears, etc. > > Marshall Monroe married Effie Hill. > Effie's father was James Washingto Hill, a.k.k Richard Hill. Richard's > wife > was named, Mandy Moria Ann Frances Jones. Her parents wer Raiford Jones > and > Delilah Stackman. > His mother was Elizabeth Hill. > > This is where Karlan got stuck, as she told me. > Karlan said that Richard was illigitimate. And rumor has it that > Elizabeth > could have been a prostitute.... That is not confirmed, but a oral > story... > Therefore Richard's father is hard to trace as will as Elizabeth. > > If you find out, please let me know. I would love to know how we are > connected. > > JoEllen Holmes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is what I have... This information came from a distant cousin - Karlan Holack who lives in Boston, GA (yes Georgia) - which is in South Georgia - and a "suburb" of a little town called Thomasville. Karlan was a Langston prior to marriage. Her great grandfather, like mine was Marshall Monroe. Karlan has done extensive research. I have not seen her research, but believe that she has put alot of sweat and tears, etc. Marshall Monroe married Effie Hill. Effie's father was James Washingto Hill, a.k.k Richard Hill. Richard's wife was named, Mandy Moria Ann Frances Jones. Her parents wer Raiford Jones and Delilah Stackman. His mother was Elizabeth Hill. This is where Karlan got stuck, as she told me. Karlan said that Richard was illigitimate. And rumor has it that Elizabeth could have been a prostitute.... That is not confirmed, but a oral story... Therefore Richard's father is hard to trace as will as Elizabeth. If you find out, please let me know. I would love to know how we are connected. JoEllen Holmes

I might have some information on the Hills. I will look and see. I have a maternal ancestor that was a Hill - the one that married a Langston. I think that there could have been some illigitimy somewhere along the line..... JoEllen On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Evelyn <edshimek@cox.net> wrote: > I've said this before and I know it's true. here in Central Georgia, Bibb > Co., there are Hills that are Native American. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> > To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > > > Where is Harrisburg and Abercrombie?? Sounds like this could be it.? > > Elizabeth would have to have been born around 1830's to be Richard (James > > W.)'s mom. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> > > To: albibb@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:56 am > > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > > > > > > > > > The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with > > Native > > American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of > > Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and > > Harrisburg. > > This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill > > is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? > > Ingrid > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Vanessa Schatz > > Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 > > To: albibb@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > > > Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jo Ellen Holmes "Grace is a ribbon of mountain air that gets in through the cracks." -Anne Lamott

I've said this before and I know it's true. here in Central Georgia, Bibb Co., there are Hills that are Native American. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > Where is Harrisburg and Abercrombie?? Sounds like this could be it.? > Elizabeth would have to have been born around 1830's to be Richard (James > W.)'s mom. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> > To: albibb@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:56 am > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > > > > The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with > Native > American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of > Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and > Harrisburg. > This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill > is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? > Ingrid > -------Original Message------- > > From: Vanessa Schatz > Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 > To: albibb@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Where is Harrisburg and Abercrombie?? Sounds like this could be it.? Elizabeth would have to have been born around 1830's to be Richard (James W.)'s mom. -----Original Message----- From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:56 am Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with Native American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and Harrisburg. This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? Ingrid -------Original Message------- From: Vanessa Schatz Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Richard Hill was born April 1954 to Elizabeth Hill.? He was born James W. Hill, then somehow it changed to Richard later on and he was known as "Dick" -----Original Message----- From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:56 am Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with Native American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and Harrisburg. This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? Ingrid -------Original Message------- From: Vanessa Schatz Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for any information on the parents of Richard Hill born april 1854.? His mother was elizabeth.? My cousin had his dna tested and he did have black genes.? So we could have a mix here of white, black and native american.? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:56 am Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with Native American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and Harrisburg. This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? Ingrid -------Original Message------- From: Vanessa Schatz Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am white.? The old picture I have of Richard Hill looks very native american.? My grandmother told me before she died in 1996 that he was native american.? I think I found him as J. W. Hill age 6 on the 1860 census.? No father is listed.? His father could have been black.? I am lost here. -----Original Message----- From: Vanessa Schatz <bfly612@sbcglobal.net> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:33 am Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Hills that I know of with an Elizabeth are African American with Native American background. The Elizabeth that I know of is supposed to be of Native American descent and from the area around Abercrombie and Harrisburg. This may or may not be the Hill family you are speaking of. Richard Hill is one of those. Who specifically are you looking for? Ingrid -------Original Message------- From: Vanessa Schatz Date: 08/18/08 11:33:39 To: albibb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family Are these HILLs African American? Please advise. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are these HILLs African American? Please advise.

This is the same timeline that my gggrandfather would have had a father.? I know my grandmother knew he was Native American.? If anyone has any information on this reservation I might have a lead - but I?don't know his name - I think the Hill name was from his mother who never maybe formally married the Native American.? There were other children by Elizabeth Hill and no father listed. -----Original Message----- From: Marshalls <usmarsh@cox.net> To: ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 6:45 pm Subject: [ALBIBB] Native Americans of Bibb Hello List, I was looking for some information on a Native American reservation of sorts that was supposed to be in the neighborhood around Mt. Tabor back in 1935-1950. Does anyone have any information on that. I have no further information about it. I have just been told by family that it used to be there somewhere around Mt. Tabor Church. Thanks Ingrid Ingrid J Marshall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a way to get Peggy's book still?? I would really love to have it. Didane -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn <edshimek@cox.net> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson I didn't know about the Native American part. I know that I'm related in some way if this is the same family that Peggy Henderson Williams researched. She did a lot of research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > yes, I am pretty sure that is him.?? my grandmother told me he was native > american.? i lost my only pilcture of him taken in centerville when he was > about 60.? he looked very native american, but never signed any roles.? i > think maybe his father is the native american and that is why he is not > listed on that census.? i guess I will never know about it.? i would be > proud to know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dortha gamel <dortgamel@localnet.com> > To: albibb@rootsweb.com; ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 8:36 pm > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > > > > Could this be him???? > > > 1860; Census Place: West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, Alabama; Roll: M653_2; > Page: 779; Image: 135. > Amanda Hill 52 > Elizabeth Hill 24 > Sarah E Hill 17 > Amanda Hill 15 > Jane C Hill 13 > Racheal Hill 12 > Charles M Hill 10 > Henry Hill 9 > James W Hill ******* 6 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> > To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:25 PM > Subject: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > > >> Would love any information on David Miller Henderson married to Paralee >> Hill in Bibb County late 1800s. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 > 7:11 > AM > > > ------------------- ------------ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I was looking for some information on a Native American reservation of sorts that was supposed to be in the neighborhood around Mt. Tabor back in 1935-1950. Does anyone have any information on that. I have no further information about it. I have just been told by family that it used to be there somewhere around Mt. Tabor Church. Thanks Ingrid Ingrid J Marshall

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bree1571 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bibb/3794/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for info on Rocky Mount Church in Bibb Co. Does anyone know where it is/was located? Thanks very much. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Please post on Albibb so I can read the info. I'm curious, too. I'm a Henderson and my father's middle name was Hill. I'm wondering where the connection is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim foster" <12144@frontiernet.net> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > My 3rd g grand's James Foster 1st child of John and Elizabeth (Savidge) > Foster b July 11,1786 in Columbia Co.Ga. > and Mary Eleanor Hill. 1st child of Joshua and Nancy Wyatt (Collier) > Hill. > b Feb 6. 1791 in Abbeville Co., S.C. and m on May 19,1807 in Abbeville > Co., > S.C. > and had 13 children !!!! > In the fall of 1818 James and Mary with there children moved to Tuscaloosa > Co. Al and to what is known to day as Fosters Al.and then James Fosters > brother. Hardy Foster was m to Mary's sister who was Elizabeth Wyatt Hill > and also move to Fosters Al. !!! Have lot's of info her if this is your > Hill > line. > Jim Foster > > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Hill Family > > >> Still trying to research James W. Hill married to Fannie Hill.? They were > both born in 1854.? There were 11 children altogether and some of the > names > are: Paralee (my great grandmother - married David Miller Henderson), > Elijah > 1885, Sam 1892, Cary 1895, Beny, Effie (married a Langston) and more.? Any > help would be great.? Also, James W. Hill somehow became Richard Hill as > he > grew up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >> To: ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 2:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] Calvin Perry of Bibb County Alabama >> >> >> >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: BobbieAnn123 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.alabama.counties.bi > bb/713.884.1037.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Melissa, Recently I found my original message and your reply with info on > my >> gggrandfather, Calvin P Perry when he married Amandy Langlin on 28 Nov > 1864 in >> Bibb Co. I tried to contact you about a month ago but I'm not sure if you >> received my e-mail. Do you have any additional info on the Langlin or > Perry >> family? I know very little about both of them. However, I believe > Calvin's >> parents are Emanuel Perry and Marthy Pace Perry. They were married 31 >> Jan > 1831 >> in North Carolina and are listed in the 1850 Alabama Census for >> Tallapoosa > Co. >> Also, I think I found them on the 1860 Alabama Census for Bibb Co, >> however > they >> are indexed as Pindar because that is the family name listed just about > them. On >> that census, all the information matches my family except the last name. > And, I >> believe Calvin had a brother Augustus who married Martha McNeal in 1855 >> in > Bibb >> County. Augustus and Martha had two children, William E born 1857 and > Mary born >> 1858. >> >> It is still a mystery if Calvin served during the Civil War. I have >> found > a >> Calvin Perry and Augustus Perry listed with the Talladega Camp of > Instruction. >> But I am not sure if this Calvin if gggrandfather. I do know that Joseph > Calvin >> Perry from Bibb County was killed during the Civil War. He was married >> to >> Frances Holder and had two children, Charity and Enos. Joseph Calvin was >> sometimes listed as Calvin. So, it is possible the person listed might >> be >> Joseph Calvin. And, I have found vague information that Levin Perry >> might > be a >> cousin to Augustus and Calvin. >> >> I would appreciate any information on either family. Barbara Stanford >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like >> to reply to them, please click on the Messag >> e Board URL link above and respond >> on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body > of >> the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I didn't know about the Native American part. I know that I'm related in some way if this is the same family that Peggy Henderson Williams researched. She did a lot of research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> To: <albibb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > yes, I am pretty sure that is him.?? my grandmother told me he was native > american.? i lost my only pilcture of him taken in centerville when he was > about 60.? he looked very native american, but never signed any roles.? i > think maybe his father is the native american and that is why he is not > listed on that census.? i guess I will never know about it.? i would be > proud to know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dortha gamel <dortgamel@localnet.com> > To: albibb@rootsweb.com; ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 8:36 pm > Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > > > > Could this be him???? > > > 1860; Census Place: West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, Alabama; Roll: M653_2; > Page: 779; Image: 135. > Amanda Hill 52 > Elizabeth Hill 24 > Sarah E Hill 17 > Amanda Hill 15 > Jane C Hill 13 > Racheal Hill 12 > Charles M Hill 10 > Henry Hill 9 > James W Hill ******* 6 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> > To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:25 PM > Subject: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > > >> Would love any information on David Miller Henderson married to Paralee >> Hill in Bibb County late 1800s. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 > 7:11 > AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks Dorthea!?? This is my family. -----Original Message----- From: dortha gamel <dortgamel@localnet.com> To: albibb@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 8:49 pm Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson 1910; Census Place: Six Mile, Bibb, Alabama; Roll: T624_2; Page: 42B; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 683. David M Henderson 29 Parrylee Henderson 28 Jewel Henderson 11 Willie Henderson 8 Ruby Henderson 4 Daniel Henderson 1 6/12 1930; Census Place: Beat 13, Bibb, Alabama; Roll: 2; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 20; Image: 1028.0. David Henderson 49 Paralee Henderson 49 Dan Henderson 21 Thelma Henderson 18 Mildred Henderson 11 a.. Name: Joseph HENDERSON a.. Sex: M a.. Birth: 17 FEB 1856 in Alabama a.. Death: 17 JUN 1923 Father: Franklin W. HENDERSON b: 1822 in Alabama Mother: Catherine LANGFORD b: 1821 in NC Marriage 1 Martha Ellen CHISM b: WFT Est. 1835-1861 a.. Married: 10 DEC 1874 Children 1.. Mattie B. HENDERSON b: 25 AUG 1877 in Alabama 2.. Maggie HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1871-1885 in Alabama 3.. Sally HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Alabama 4.. David HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Alabama 5.. Joe HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1875-1897 6.. John HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1874-1896 7.. Matthew HENDERSON b: WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > Would love any information on David Miller Henderson married to Paralee > Hill in Bibb County late 1800s. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > begin 666 child_is.gif M1TE&.#EA# `.`+,`````_^OK_ZFI_P@(_TI*_VMK_XB(_Q@8_V9F_RDI_WM[ M_Q 0_SDY_YF9_U)2_R$A_R'Y! $```$`+ `````,``X```0P, @!JA4A4\MQ I(%S8!$S((8%Y"H=:&85;":!;9(/Z>'4X9 &#ZP#4F!3%5"A1=$4``#L` ` end begin 666 child_blank.gif M1TE&.#EA# `.`/<``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`````+ `````,``X```@7``$('$BPH,&# 0"!,J7,BPH<.'$",^# @`.P`` ` end No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 7:11 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

yes, I am pretty sure that is him.?? my grandmother told me he was native american.? i lost my only pilcture of him taken in centerville when he was about 60.? he looked very native american, but never signed any roles.? i think maybe his father is the native american and that is why he is not listed on that census.? i guess I will never know about it.? i would be proud to know. -----Original Message----- From: dortha gamel <dortgamel@localnet.com> To: albibb@rootsweb.com; ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson Could this be him???? 1860; Census Place: West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, Alabama; Roll: M653_2; Page: 779; Image: 135. Amanda Hill 52 Elizabeth Hill 24 Sarah E Hill 17 Amanda Hill 15 Jane C Hill 13 Racheal Hill 12 Charles M Hill 10 Henry Hill 9 James W Hill ******* 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: <dianehammsciara@aol.com> To: <ALBIBB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: [ALBIBB] David Miller Henderson > Would love any information on David Miller Henderson married to Paralee > Hill in Bibb County late 1800s. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 7:11 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBIBB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message