This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterandrose_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4395.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Master Surname Index (not online) (mostly burials in Alberta cemeteries) of the Alberta Genealogical Society lists these possible names; Thomas Haly WILSON, - interred 12 Apr 1925 (no head stone) buried in Edmonton 7th ave cemetery. Thomas GREAVES, interred 16 May 1933 age 84 yrs. Sarah Elizabeth GREAVES, - interred 5 Nov 1932 age 81 yrs. plot 123,19. Appears to be no head stone for these. In the Beechmount cemetery, Edmonton. Henry Alfred GREAVES, - 13 Apr 1962 age 86 yrs (Pte 49th Batt CEF) plot 248,1 Beechmount cemetery. Edmonton. Ethel GREAVES, - 12 Jul 1946 age 66 yrs buried in the Forest Home cemetery at Ponoka. She is the only Greaves in this cemetery. There are some 9 other Greaves burials in different area of the Beechmount cemetery. For obituaries or further research please contact the AGS Research Services Committee of the Edmonton Branch, http://abgensoc.ca/ The Edmonton Branch http://agsedm.edmonton.ab.ca Peter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Stella_Stanger Surnames: GREAVES,WILSON,SHAKEATT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4395.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again: About Lennie, is this her proper name? People are registered under the name they used during their lifetime - eg. a married woman will have her husbands surname. Just searched the year - and given name: Name: Lennie Brailsford GREAVES Age:89 Event:Death PlaceWest Vancouver Date:1968 3 9 (Yr/Mo/Day) Reg. Number:1968-09-003908 Copy Available Microfilm #:B13288 (GSU # 2033941) This registration can be viewed,transcribed or copied. A search for an Obituary - may show names and locations of any children and their locations at the time. May married Thomas Holy WILSON - passed away 1925 in Edmonton. Was she married in Alberta? Have you obtained the Obituary for Thomas - may give names of any children. Obituary for May? Check Edmonton Cemetery site - may show May. Perhaps your May Cemetery Interment Last Name First Name Burial Date Cemetery Section Block Plot WILSON MAY 1/22/1981 MOUNT PLEASANT 0G 0007 0001 Cemetery Interment Last Name First Name Burial Date Cemetery Section Block Plot WILSON THOMAS 4/12/1925 EDMONTON 0E 0033 0026 Contact the Cemetery - they will have the names of Funeral Homes in charge of arrangements. The funeral home should hold some records that may be of use. They take information required for the death registraiton - perhaps for the obituary. also other info . Henry - Lived in Edmonton, or Alberta? There are 5 Henry WILSON listed 3 at Beechmont Cemetery and 2 in Edmonton Cemetery. There is 1 Ethel WILSON dcd 1968 - perhaps the wife of Henry - Cemetery Interment Last Name First Name Burial Date Cemetery Section Block Plot WILSON ETHEL 10/23/1968 BEECHMOUNT 0137 0030 Beechmount 12420-104 St. Mount Pleasant 5420-106 St. Edmonton 118-107 Ave. For more information contact Information and Administration Edmonton Municipal Cemeteries Community Services City of Edmonton 12420-104 St Edmonton AB T5G 2M1 Phone: (780) 496-6983 (24 hours) Fax: (780) 496-6985 E-mail: cemetery@edmonton.ca Hours: Monday-Friday 8:30 AM-4:30 PM Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness: http://www.raogk.org/canada.htm Volunteers - offer help in their Provinces. Vital REcords, Obituaries, Cemetery Photo's etc. You have Attestation Papers - Do you have Service Records for Henry ? This information is available - at a very small cost - interesting . http://www.collectionscanada.ca/copies/005010-5021-e.html Cheers & Good Luck, Stella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Stella_Stanger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4395.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Unfortunately we do not have a registry of birth,marriage,death - across Canada. Some Provinces like British Columbia - release records once they are considered Public Record. Marriage in the 76 th year, Births now in the 120th year. Death in the 21st year after the event. http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-4C5E7CD/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths Here in BC we are free to view the filmed registrations, transcribe at no cost - copy for the price of a copy machine. at our Librayr .40cents per page. Saskatchewan has just recently placed some of their vital records online -still a work in progress. Manitoba has Births,Marriage,death online. Any vital records in the Province Of Alberta - after 1905 - are held with the Govt of Alberta Vital Statistics Registry offices. The cost of each registraiton is $40 the will search a few years either side of a given date. Cheers, Stella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pmpinder Surnames: Greaves/Wilson/Shakeatt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4395/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Greaves b 1851 Yorkshire, England, wife Sarah Elizabeth b 1852 Yorks, England, children May Elizabeth b 1874 Yorks, England, Henry Alfred b 1876 Yorks, England and Lennie Brailsford b 1879 Yorks, England. All emigrated to Canada. We have no death dates for Thomas or Sarah - could anyone help. May married Thomas Holy Wilson, we know he died 9 Apr 1925 in Edmonton and May was still alive then, again we don't know when she died. Henry is last recorded as joining Canadian military in 1917, he did marry Ethel Shakeatt in 1909, but his attestattion papers say he was separated, we have no records of him after that, or his wife and whether there were any children. We have Lennie as dying 9 Mar 1968 in Vancouver, British Columbia. We have not been able to find her marriage, she is shown as Greaves on death record?, or the births of her children. We know she had a daughter Margaret. If anyone can help fill in the blanks please and point me to any sites that may give birth, marr! iage and death records for Canada so that I can research others, I would be grateful. Many thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Debra: Thank you for all those links. They have all come in handy. I have ordered the Alberta Ranges & Township Road Atlas. That, together with the text instructions from GoogleEarth (Edson to Shining Bank to Yates) will take us safely there. Can't wait for the Atlas to get here. As our Albert

Hello Caroline: Thanks for the clue: Ninton Railway Station. I see where it was now. Yes, it did help. June

On 3/21/07, Gay King wrote: > Today's Topics: > 1. Locating farm by legal description (June Harvey) > 2. Re: Locating farm by legal description (Gay King) > Hi June, > No doubt the good folk on this list will be able to tell you in detail where > these two locations are but I thought you might find this an interesting > map: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/nmc/n0043265.pdf > It is a map for Western Canadian land grants. The locations you have are W5M > = West of the Fifth Meridian so they are west of Edmonton. The rest I'll > leave to others. But this is one of my most useful maps ever.........! > Gay Thank you Gay for that link. It has proved to be invaluable. June

http://www.watertoninfo.ab.ca/mapab.html follow 16 west of Edmonton or Edson east of Niton Junction.....junction is at where you see going north the highway 33 which now is shown as 32, anything to confuse people...:) it's 100 miles west of Edmonton or if coming from the east at Edson, 23 miles west...:)) as the good old folks use to say: just down the road a bit...:)) once there am sure someone will know the area it is you seek to find....Have a safe journey wherever it is you are coming from within Alberta...:)

Hello Thanks for pointing that out Marilyn. It is not Hinton. Niton is correct as given in the Niton Railway Station land description. I was looking on my Cummins map which only shows a Niton. Niton junction came to be later on in 1956. Niton Railway station at Twp. 54, R. 12, W5M 1926-05-17 Niton Junction General Store at TWP 53 Range 12 W5M. 1956-04-03 This is from the Collections Canada Postmasters website. Although they are shown as different townships, they appear to be one place now with the Niton post office closing in 1969. Niton Junction is about 160km west of Edmonton. One website I use for finding places is: http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php For farm locations I went to the Glenbow museum in Calgary and made copies of the area I needed. I obtained ones for 1918, 1927 and 2003. The maps showed detailed sections of land with the name of the land owner on each section. This made it easier to drive to the exact location. Regards, Caroline Dolittle&Sitmore <msergi@shaw.ca> wrote: Hi Caroline and June: I believe the correct name of the towns is 1) Niton...Niton Junction....and/or (2) Hinton. NOT Ninton...please check your maps carefully...they are a ways apart! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [ALBERTA] Locating farm by legal description Hello June, I have a large Cummins map of Alberta. The land description of the farm is just north of Ninton Alberta, which is on Hwy 16 west of Edmonton going towards Jasper. Here is the legal land description for the Railway station in Ninton. Mail route - Niton-Railway Station SE Sec. 18, Twp. 54, R. 12, W5M - 1926-05-17 Sec. 13, Twp. 54, R. 13, W5M - 1918-10-15 A bit further west on Hwy 16 is the town of Yates. This is probably where she is buried. Mail route - Yates-Railway Station SE 1/4 Sec. 17, Twp. 54, R. 16, W5M Hope this helps, Caroline June Harvey wrote: Dear Listers: A visit is planned this Summer to Alberta to locate a homestead and a grandmother's gravesite. The only clues thus far are a Land Grant (homestead) and a Death Certificate. Unfortunately, the legal description given on each document are different. Land Grant: To Albert WAITE, NE1/4, Sec.19, Twp.56, Range 13, W5M. Death Certificate: Elizabeth Ann WAITE, buried on farm - SE1/4, Sec.16, Twp.54, Range 16, W5M. The Land Grant was made in 1920 and the death was in 1935. Does anyone have survey maps that would make identifying these properties easy? We have no idea where they would be. Alternatively, Is there anywhere on the Net that we could look at survey maps ourselves? Would really appreciate some help with this conundrum. thank you for reading June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

Hi Caroline and June: I believe the correct name of the towns is 1) Niton...Niton Junction....and/or (2) Hinton. NOT Ninton...please check your maps carefully...they are a ways apart! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline" <window_2thepast@yahoo.com> To: <alberta@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [ALBERTA] Locating farm by legal description Hello June, I have a large Cummins map of Alberta. The land description of the farm is just north of Ninton Alberta, which is on Hwy 16 west of Edmonton going towards Jasper. Here is the legal land description for the Railway station in Ninton. Mail route - Niton-Railway Station SE Sec. 18, Twp. 54, R. 12, W5M - 1926-05-17 Sec. 13, Twp. 54, R. 13, W5M - 1918-10-15 A bit further west on Hwy 16 is the town of Yates. This is probably where she is buried. Mail route - Yates-Railway Station SE 1/4 Sec. 17, Twp. 54, R. 16, W5M Hope this helps, Caroline June Harvey <june.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers: A visit is planned this Summer to Alberta to locate a homestead and a grandmother's gravesite. The only clues thus far are a Land Grant (homestead) and a Death Certificate. Unfortunately, the legal description given on each document are different. Land Grant: To Albert WAITE, NE1/4, Sec.19, Twp.56, Range 13, W5M. Death Certificate: Elizabeth Ann WAITE, buried on farm - SE1/4, Sec.16, Twp.54, Range 16, W5M. The Land Grant was made in 1920 and the death was in 1935. Does anyone have survey maps that would make identifying these properties easy? We have no idea where they would be. Alternatively, Is there anywhere on the Net that we could look at survey maps ourselves? Would really appreciate some help with this conundrum. thank you for reading June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: peterandrose_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4387.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Stella, Today I was able to visit the Provincial Archives and also checked on those Vital Registers in the KRAKOW area. But sorry to say no results. That Chipman Register of BMD started in 1909. It did have other places in this register, also a few Krakow. I then looked for other area Registers. There was a Krakow register, it started August 1910, and also had other nearby places listed. The Wostok register starts in August 1906. The Andrew register starts in 1920. The Mundare register starts in 1908. All these Registers had a lot of other nearby places in them. I did look at names on the first pages but didn't see anything that looked or sounded like CHMELYK. After a bit of searching, the person looking after the Book Store at the Archives found me the "Alberta: Index to Registration of Births, Marriages and Deaths Registrations prior 1900". So I purchased it for myself. Like it says, its pre 1900, except almost every page has 1 or 2 marriages on it that are from 1900 to 1906. And almost all places are the big places of Edmonton, Calgary, Red Deer and Lethbridge, with a few smaller places mixed in. So thats my day away from the computer Peter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Can anyone help find the cemetery record for: William M. LEE, born in Waushara Co., WI about 1867 He lived in the Kernadale area west of Peace River, NE-26-25-83 W5, and was know to be alive in 1929. Thanks in advance. Joe

Hello June, I have a large Cummins map of Alberta. The land description of the farm is just north of Ninton Alberta, which is on Hwy 16 west of Edmonton going towards Jasper. Here is the legal land description for the Railway station in Ninton. Mail route - Niton-Railway Station SE Sec. 18, Twp. 54, R. 12, W5M - 1926-05-17 Sec. 13, Twp. 54, R. 13, W5M - 1918-10-15 A bit further west on Hwy 16 is the town of Yates. This is probably where she is buried. Mail route - Yates-Railway Station SE 1/4 Sec. 17, Twp. 54, R. 16, W5M Hope this helps, Caroline June Harvey <june.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers: A visit is planned this Summer to Alberta to locate a homestead and a grandmother's gravesite. The only clues thus far are a Land Grant (homestead) and a Death Certificate. Unfortunately, the legal description given on each document are different. Land Grant: To Albert WAITE, NE1/4, Sec.19, Twp.56, Range 13, W5M. Death Certificate: Elizabeth Ann WAITE, buried on farm - SE1/4, Sec.16, Twp.54, Range 16, W5M. The Land Grant was made in 1920 and the death was in 1935. Does anyone have survey maps that would make identifying these properties easy? We have no idea where they would be. Alternatively, Is there anywhere on the Net that we could look at survey maps ourselves? Would really appreciate some help with this conundrum. thank you for reading June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Stella_Stanger Surnames: MARKS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4394.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, There is a Frederick in Alberta. Perhaps someone at the message board - will offer to call the number. Cheers, Stella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crs_n_ted Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4394.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much Stella. I live in Ontario with no long distance plan either, and I couldn't find addresses for Charles and didn't find a Fred anywhere except in BC. Will keep up the search and think I'll be finding a LD service very soon. Many thanks, Chris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Stella_Stanger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4394.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: mytelus.com http://www.mytelus.com/phonebook/index.do http://www.411.ca Cheers, Stella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Stella_Stanger Surnames: MARKS, NEUTZLING, SHUTE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4394.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The online white pages directory shows 1 Charles MARKS in Alberta - place not shown - 1 Frederick MARKS in Alberta - place not shown There ae telephone numbers. There are 2 A MARKS listings - There are 4 NEUTZLING surnames - perhaps family connected that could help. There are 23 SHUTE surnames Perhaps some of the above - will be able to help - though it appears that it means telephone calls. I do not live in Alberta - and don't have long distance service. Cheers & Good Luck, Stella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crs_n_ted Surnames: Marks Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.alberta.general/4394/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to track down Charles and Fred Marks, sons of Albert and Viola Marks (Neutzling). Charles was married abt 1957 in Winfield, AB and Fred was married Sept 1966 in Breton, AB to Betty Shute. I believe they also have a sister named Elaine. Their father is my Gr. Uncle and I'd like to add their info to the family tree. If anyone knows their where abouts or how to contact them, please let me know or pass along the info that I'm looking for them. I've been through the directories and can not locate an address. Many thanks, Chris in Ontario Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello June, I don't have one single online source that will identify your locations for you, but further below I will list a few useful sites that might help you with pieces of your puzzle. Firstly though, I would highly recommend getting a copy of this paper atlas to take travelling, because it shows Alberta highways on a grid of the surveyed ranges and townships: MapArt Publishing http://www.mapart.com/ Alberta Ranges & Township Road Atlas for 2007 About $20 Canadian. You might be able to find it at a bookstore, and it looks like you could order directly from the website. Secondly, concerning your two legal land descriptions: 1) Land Grant for Albert WAITE, NE1/4, Sec.19, Twp.56, Range 13, W5M. - This appears to be about 30 km SSW of Whitecourt, Alberta. Nearby communities are Mahaska to the NW, and Hattonford, to the SE. - Did Albert Waite ever serve as the postmaster for Mahaska? Check http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/post-offices/index-e.html A search for "Mahaska" will produce a postmaster named A. Waite between June & October 1920. There is some additional land description info on this page as well 2) Death Certificate for Elizabeth Ann WAITE buried on farm, SE1/4, Sec.16, Twp.54, Range 16, W5M. - This appears to be just a few km NW of Wolf Creek near the McLeod River, but I don't know whether it would be on the east or west side of the McLeod River, or where bridges or ferries might be found. - try the post office site for more area land description info Here are some websites that might help you out: Map Town Ltd. http://www.maptown.com/ - In the left column, look under References for the Conversions link for a way to convert your legal land descriptions to latitude and longitude. Nancy's Alberta Search Tips http://www.geocities.com/drnancytodd/strathmore/albertatips.html Geographical Names of Canada http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php How are western Canadian homestead surveys laid out? http://www.rootsweb.com/~cansk/Saskatchewan/homesteadlocation.html And of course, http://maps.google.ca/ Hope that helps. -- Debra (darnison @ telusplanet.net)

Hi June, No doubt the good folk on this list will be able to tell you in detail where these two locations are but I thought you might find this an interesting map: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/nmc/n0043265.pdf It is a map for Western Canadian land grants. The locations you have are W5M = West of the Fifth Meridian so they are west of Edmonton. The rest I'll leave to others. But this is one of my most useful maps ever.........! Gay -----Original Message----- From: alberta-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alberta-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June Harvey Sent: March 20, 2007 5:28 PM To: alberta@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALBERTA] Locating farm by legal description Dear Listers: A visit is planned this Summer to Alberta to locate a homestead and a grandmother's gravesite. The only clues thus far are a Land Grant (homestead) and a Death Certificate. Unfortunately, the legal description given on each document are different. Land Grant: To Albert WAITE, NE1/4, Sec.19, Twp.56, Range 13, W5M. Death Certificate: Elizabeth Ann WAITE, buried on farm - SE1/4, Sec.16, Twp.54, Range 16, W5M. The Land Grant was made in 1920 and the death was in 1935. Does anyone have survey maps that would make identifying these properties easy? We have no idea where they would be. Alternatively, Is there anywhere on the Net that we could look at survey maps ourselves? Would really appreciate some help with this conundrum. thank you for reading June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALBERTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message